A mystery illness killed a boy in 1969. Years later, doctors learned what it was: AIDS.

Maxxam

Rising Star
Platinum Member
https://www.washingtonpost.com/hist...rned-what-it-was-aids/?utm_term=.c7eca6dcd0af

The 16-year-old boy had the kind of illness that wouldn’t be familiar to doctors for years: He was weak and emaciated, rife with stubborn infections and riddled with rare cancerous lesions known as Kaposi’s sarcoma, a skin disease found in elderly men of Mediterranean descent.

The boy, Robert Rayford, died on May 15, 1969, in St. Louis. It would be more than a decade before doctors started seeing similar cases among gay men in New York and California. In 1982, with the numbers of sick surging, the disease got a name: Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome. The AIDS epidemic had begun.

But the mystery of Robert R. — as he was long known to researchers — would linger in the minds of the physicians who had cared for him. With a sense that something important could someday be learned, two doctors collected tissue samples after his death and froze them for almost 20 years.

In time, the case of a poor young African American who apparently never left the Midwest would add a surprising twist to the understanding of a disease many connected with gay white men in cosmopolitan coastal cities. Researchers would come to see Rayford as the country’s first known death from a strain of the human immunodeficiency virus, HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.

“Every time this date comes around, I think about this young man and the hell he went through,” said Memory Elvin-Lewis, a microbiologist who was central to the case. “It’s burned in my brain.”

For some, the assertion that Rayford died of AIDS may never be fully proved. Anthony Fauci, a renowned AIDS expert and head of infectious-disease research at the National Institutes of Health, said the inferior state of antibody tests at the time make the case of Robert R. both fascinating and frustrating.

“It certainly could be true, and may even be likely that it’s true,” Fauci said, “but the absolute nailed-down proof isn’t there.”


Robert was already struggling when he arrived at St. Louis’s City Hospital in late 1968. Then 15, the boy was suffering from swollen legs and genitals, fatigue and hemorrhoids. But according to doctors at the time and journalists who went back over the case years later, neither Rayford nor his family were very forthcoming with information.

“He would never say a word to me,” said Elvin-Lewis, now 85 and still working.

The uncommunicative Rayford might have had a mental disability, doctors said later. When they found he had chlamydia, a sexually transmitted bacterial infection, he dodged questions about his sexual activity or would say only that he had been with a neighborhood girl. But there was physical evidence he had engaged in homosexual activity, willingly or not.

More frustrating, his doctors couldn’t come up with a clear diagnosis, and none of their treatments worked. Over 15 months, he was moved twice to other hospitals and his case attracted several specialists. One of them was Elvin-Lewis, a newly hired microbiologist at Washington University Dental School with an expertise in chlamydia. She was surprised to find the infection spread through Rayford’s body in a way she had never seen. And yet, the boy’s own defenses were barely fighting the bacteria. His immune system seemed strangely inert.

Three months after turning 16, Rayford died of pneumonia.

The mystery only grew when the autopsy revealed numerous internal lesions known as Kaposi’s sarcoma, which were almost unheard of in a black teenager. Elvin-Lewis and a lymphologist named Marlys Witte, who didn’t respond to a request for an interview, had tissue samples gathered and preserved in sucrose-potassium glutamate in the hopes that medical science would someday be able to unlock some of their secrets.

“We knew there had to be another virus or something that was causing his immune deficiency,” Elvin-Lewis said.

There would be no answers for years. Elvin-Lewis and Witte did present a paper highlighting some of the perplexities of the case, but the world moved on. The Vietnam War flared up and wound down. Richard Nixon won election to a second term, vowed he wasn’t a crook and then resigned. Disco arrived, amid a wave of “Saturday Night Fever.” Cocaine coursed through the nightlife of big cities.

And gay men started getting sick in noticeable numbers.

In June 1981, the Center for Disease Control noted in its Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report the appearance of a rare pneumonia in five young gay men in Los Angeles. Additionally, the men, all of whom would die, showed compromised immune systems. The same day, a New York dermatologist tipped the CDC to a baffling spate of Kaposi’s sarcoma cases among gay men. Newspapers began writing about “gay-men’s pneumonia” and “gay cancer” and, eventually, of AIDS.

Researchers slowly traced HIV’s probable origins to chimpanzee populations in central Africa, where it probably jumped to human hunters through contact with animal blood. They believed the virus crossed the globe with infected travelers in the 1970s. Multiple vectors of infection were identified, including homosexual and heterosexual contact, blood transfusions and sharing contaminated needles.

Little of that seemed to point to an obscure Midwestern medical mystery almost 15 years earlier. But for Rayford’s doctors, the descriptions of AIDS rang a bell. In 1984, Witte published a letter in a journal noting the similarities with Rayford’s history. In 1985, when a test became available that could detect HIV antibodies, Elvin-Lewis packed some of her long-held samples in dry ice and shipped them to Witte, who had them tested by Robert Garry, a Tulane virologist. Garry tested for nine distinct HIV proteins. Rayford’s blood showed evidence of all nine.

“Case Shakes Theories of AIDS Origin,” read a Chicago Tribune story that broke news of the results in October 1987. “Area Teen May Have Died from AIDS—In 1969,” said a banner headline in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

The tests on Rayford’s tissues astonished researchers. The finding wouldn’t change how the disease was treated, but it challenged the conventional wisdom of how it arrived.

“If the findings are factual, it would be the earliest case of the AIDS in the United States,” epidemiologist Peter Selwyn told the Post-Dispatch at the time. “St. Louis doesn’t stand out as a hot spot for the AIDS virus.”

Researchers were skeptical. But as the testing grew more refined, Garry did further analysis that more conclusively pegged Rayford’s infection as an early strain of HIV that was distinct from the strain that led to the epidemic in the early 1980s.

Those tests haven’t erased all doubts, Fauci said. For him, “nailed-down proof” would require more testing on Rayford’s tissue samples. But that’s no longer possible. The last known tissue samples to survive were in Garry’s lab in New Orleans. They were wiped out by Hurricane Katrina in 2005.
 
tenor.gif
 
Question everything!! The Creator blessed our people with an outstanding sense of discernment!! Use it or loss it!!


Mainstream Media Cult

I used to wonder how intelligent people could fall victim to the brainwashing of a cult group. Their delusion stemmed from getting their information from only one source and being blocked off from all other sources of information. Then they would have everyone around them that are just as brainwashed reaffirming their beliefs. Those outside the cult are seen as dangerous and the enemy. It’s a scary world outside the compound and the only safe place is inside the compound. Loved ones may try convincing them to leave, but with no success because they refuse to consider another way of thinking. Rational reasoning and critical thinking has been replaced with what the cult leader says is true. This is when the cult becomes dangerous.

The mainstream media as they call it is what the powers that be use to brainwash and control the masses. The large majority of people get there news and opinions from the mainstream media. The mainstream media consists of all the major television networks, radio stations, newspapers, magazines, major college universities and even portions of the internet. Just like a cult, any piece of news or opinion outside of this source is considered wrong and sometimes downright dangerous. Well just as some of the world is in fact scary, dangerous, and wrong, so are portions of the internet and other alternative media outlets. But that doesn't mean ALL of the world and alternative media outlets are scary, dangerous, and wrong. For the cult member to have any hope of finding reality, that person must leave the compound and take their chances in the real world.
The same goes for those in today’s bigger world wide cult, they must abandon the mainstream media and take their chances for finding truth somewhere else in the alternative media. Yes, you risk falling on your face and possibly believing wrong information. You risk ridicule and others laughing at you because you don’t believe as they do and they have the majority backing their beliefs. You may not get it correct right away, but that is your only chance for finding truth. If you say, no I won’t leave the compound, I will continue my loyalty to Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, or whatever home team you’ve chosen, then you are no different then a cult member refusing to leave the compound, and refusing to consider another way of thinking. You will think and believe just as they tell you to and you will have others around you reaffirming your beliefs because they derive their thoughts and opinions from the same source you do.
People always wonder how the people of Nazi Germany ever allowed an evil dictatorship to take place in their day. We would never allow that in America. But the truth is that Nazi Germany was not an event. It was a process, little by little tyranny took hold. The media propaganda of Hitler’s day brainwashed the people and caused them to stand down in the face of tyranny. The media machine today is many times more powerful than it was back then. The same evil power behind Hitler’s Nazi Germany exists today behind our government and has infiltrated through to the highest powers of our government. All these evil dictators throughout history are never seen for what they are until it is too late and the damage has been done.
I’m not saying we can save the world or even change anything, but we can at least see things for what it is. You can ignore reality, but you can’t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. Take a chance and seek out alternative means of information, read a book, study history, sift through the internet and discern for yourself what is and isn't true. If you do, you will never look at the mainstream media the same ever again. You will see right through the propaganda and the half truths. It’s not about being smarter than anybody else, it’s about being informed, using your own God given mind, and taking the time necessary to be informed. The masses have gotten it wrong countless times throughout history. Following the crowd is not always the way to go.
Is everyone in on some big conspiracy? No, although a large majority of the people enable the conspiracy because they are willing to do whatever they are told to get their pay checks and feed their families. The average person isn’t considering the big picture and will always justify their actions. It may be a police officer that is given orders from the top to arrest peaceful protesters. It may be an anchor man given orders from the top to spin a story a certain way. These people do what they are told or they are out of a job or never get promoted. And the less ethical you are and the more corruptible you are, the higher you are promoted when a tyrannical government rules.
The government may even bring in foreign troops with your own tax dollars to oppress you. And these foreigners will have no clue what freedom is and they will do as they are instructed in order to survive themselves. This is how a TSA agent can justify molesting airline passengers, they are like a squirrel looking for a nut, just trying to make it in this world, so they do what they are told to have a job. With the bad economy, people can’t afford to lose their job and risk finding another one. And doing what the boss wants gets you promoted no matter what ethical boundaries were crossed in the process. The conspiracy comes from the people at the top of the corporate pyramid. Everyone else is just doing as they are told trying to make it in the world. So a society on a moral decline is much more susceptible to this kind of thing as well. But if you ask me, looking outside the mainstream media box is your only chance to find reality.
 
Black teenager in the 60s...do you think they might have injected him with the virus? It sounds far fetched but...The Tuskegee experiments show that they will use human test subjects.

The longer we live the more we learn. What you've stated doesn't sound far fetched. Not with the existing levels of corruption that exist within our government. I wouldn't dismiss that possibility for all the money in the world.
 
Black teenager in the 60s...do you think they might have injected him with the virus? It sounds far fetched but...The Tuskegee experiments show that they will use human test subjects.

That wouldnt surprise me one bit!! Ill share this again,, Everything you think this corporation(USA) wouldnt do, is everything they will do!! Our people must change their thought process, NOW!! We have to protect our spirit/soul, mind and body at all times.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/hist...rned-what-it-was-aids/?utm_term=.c7eca6dcd0af

The 16-year-old boy had the kind of illness that wouldn’t be familiar to doctors for years: He was weak and emaciated, rife with stubborn infections and riddled with rare cancerous lesions known as Kaposi’s sarcoma, a skin disease found in elderly men of Mediterranean descent.

The boy, Robert Rayford, died on May 15, 1969, in St. Louis. It would be more than a decade before doctors started seeing similar cases among gay men in New York and California. In 1982, with the numbers of sick surging, the disease got a name: Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome. The AIDS epidemic had begun.

But the mystery of Robert R. — as he was long known to researchers — would linger in the minds of the physicians who had cared for him. With a sense that something important could someday be learned, two doctors collected tissue samples after his death and froze them for almost 20 years.

In time, the case of a poor young African American who apparently never left the Midwest would add a surprising twist to the understanding of a disease many connected with gay white men in cosmopolitan coastal cities. Researchers would come to see Rayford as the country’s first known death from a strain of the human immunodeficiency virus, HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.

“Every time this date comes around, I think about this young man and the hell he went through,” said Memory Elvin-Lewis, a microbiologist who was central to the case. “It’s burned in my brain.”

For some, the assertion that Rayford died of AIDS may never be fully proved. Anthony Fauci, a renowned AIDS expert and head of infectious-disease research at the National Institutes of Health, said the inferior state of antibody tests at the time make the case of Robert R. both fascinating and frustrating.

“It certainly could be true, and may even be likely that it’s true,” Fauci said, “but the absolute nailed-down proof isn’t there.”


Robert was already struggling when he arrived at St. Louis’s City Hospital in late 1968. Then 15, the boy was suffering from swollen legs and genitals, fatigue and hemorrhoids. But according to doctors at the time and journalists who went back over the case years later, neither Rayford nor his family were very forthcoming with information.

“He would never say a word to me,” said Elvin-Lewis, now 85 and still working.

The uncommunicative Rayford might have had a mental disability, doctors said later. When they found he had chlamydia, a sexually transmitted bacterial infection, he dodged questions about his sexual activity or would say only that he had been with a neighborhood girl. But there was physical evidence he had engaged in homosexual activity, willingly or not.

More frustrating, his doctors couldn’t come up with a clear diagnosis, and none of their treatments worked. Over 15 months, he was moved twice to other hospitals and his case attracted several specialists. One of them was Elvin-Lewis, a newly hired microbiologist at Washington University Dental School with an expertise in chlamydia. She was surprised to find the infection spread through Rayford’s body in a way she had never seen. And yet, the boy’s own defenses were barely fighting the bacteria. His immune system seemed strangely inert.

Three months after turning 16, Rayford died of pneumonia.

The mystery only grew when the autopsy revealed numerous internal lesions known as Kaposi’s sarcoma, which were almost unheard of in a black teenager. Elvin-Lewis and a lymphologist named Marlys Witte, who didn’t respond to a request for an interview, had tissue samples gathered and preserved in sucrose-potassium glutamate in the hopes that medical science would someday be able to unlock some of their secrets.

“We knew there had to be another virus or something that was causing his immune deficiency,” Elvin-Lewis said.

There would be no answers for years. Elvin-Lewis and Witte did present a paper highlighting some of the perplexities of the case, but the world moved on. The Vietnam War flared up and wound down. Richard Nixon won election to a second term, vowed he wasn’t a crook and then resigned. Disco arrived, amid a wave of “Saturday Night Fever.” Cocaine coursed through the nightlife of big cities.

And gay men started getting sick in noticeable numbers.

In June 1981, the Center for Disease Control noted in its Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report the appearance of a rare pneumonia in five young gay men in Los Angeles. Additionally, the men, all of whom would die, showed compromised immune systems. The same day, a New York dermatologist tipped the CDC to a baffling spate of Kaposi’s sarcoma cases among gay men. Newspapers began writing about “gay-men’s pneumonia” and “gay cancer” and, eventually, of AIDS.

Researchers slowly traced HIV’s probable origins to chimpanzee populations in central Africa, where it probably jumped to human hunters through contact with animal blood. They believed the virus crossed the globe with infected travelers in the 1970s. Multiple vectors of infection were identified, including homosexual and heterosexual contact, blood transfusions and sharing contaminated needles.

Little of that seemed to point to an obscure Midwestern medical mystery almost 15 years earlier. But for Rayford’s doctors, the descriptions of AIDS rang a bell. In 1984, Witte published a letter in a journal noting the similarities with Rayford’s history. In 1985, when a test became available that could detect HIV antibodies, Elvin-Lewis packed some of her long-held samples in dry ice and shipped them to Witte, who had them tested by Robert Garry, a Tulane virologist. Garry tested for nine distinct HIV proteins. Rayford’s blood showed evidence of all nine.

“Case Shakes Theories of AIDS Origin,” read a Chicago Tribune story that broke news of the results in October 1987. “Area Teen May Have Died from AIDS—In 1969,” said a banner headline in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

The tests on Rayford’s tissues astonished researchers. The finding wouldn’t change how the disease was treated, but it challenged the conventional wisdom of how it arrived.

“If the findings are factual, it would be the earliest case of the AIDS in the United States,” epidemiologist Peter Selwyn told the Post-Dispatch at the time. “St. Louis doesn’t stand out as a hot spot for the AIDS virus.”

Researchers were skeptical. But as the testing grew more refined, Garry did further analysis that more conclusively pegged Rayford’s infection as an early strain of HIV that was distinct from the strain that led to the epidemic in the early 1980s.

Those tests haven’t erased all doubts, Fauci said. For him, “nailed-down proof” would require more testing on Rayford’s tissue samples. But that’s no longer possible. The last known tissue samples to survive were in Garry’s lab in New Orleans. They were wiped out by Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

So does this mean that he was patient zero for the grand cac experiment ???

.:idea:

Black teenager in the 60s...do you think they might have injected him with the virus? It sounds far fetched but...The Tuskegee experiments show that they will use human test subjects.


.
 
The longer we live the more we learn. What you've stated doesn't sound far fetched. Not with the existing levels of corruption that exist within our government. I wouldn't dismiss that possibility for all the money in the world.
My pops said dudes were dying from that shit when he was in Vietnam.
 
I read another article where they said the young man was probably slow and that someone was molesting him.
 
My pops said dudes were dying from that shit when he was in Vietnam.

I can easily believe that, with all the underhanded shit we've experienced and or learned about over the years. With what the government did to those brothers in Tuskegee how can anyone believe otherwise.

Michael Jackson made 1 political song while he lived and he nailed it. "They Don't Really Care About Us" Some people rally need to to listen to what he was saying. It'll awaken the clouded minds.

 
Back
Top