A deeper look into the friend zone/why women need men

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I want to make this short but at the same time this is almost impossible. This message is important to all men.


The friend zone/simp zone. Women make it,men fall into it. First understand why a woman wants the friend zone. I have been put in the friend zone plenty of times to notice somethings and here is what i have noticed.

Women NEED men. Not just for sex. But advantage reasons. When a woman needs a favor she is more likely to ask her male friend that's in the friend zone for help. She is less likely to ask a woman because, well women aren't very reliable and if they do a favor a woman is going to want something in return for the favor she is doing.

A man in the friend zone is more likely to do something nice if not out of the kindness of his heart, then it's for some ass. A woman will not do that most of the times.

So she needs men to rely on, to give her rides, spot her a few dollars here and there. Reliablity has allways been seen as a manly trait. Hence the phrase "i'm a man of my word".

Who do women call when they need favors...men. Need help with a car, men, need some nigga to beat up your girl's abusesive boyfriend she will call men. Help shoveling her snow...men men men. Bottom line is that the only guy that will do this is the guy that's in the friend zone. Women dont trust women. Notice how a woman will consider a female a friend but at the same time be scared that her "friend" will try to fuck her man so she doesn't introduce her man to her girlfriend? How can anyone seriously consider someone a friend when they know/think that said friend hasn't stabbed them in the back only because they haven't had the oppurtunity?

They dont trust each other and consider females backstabbing. So they need men. Some women only have to call the guy every now and then and listen to him and he gives her money. It's a lot of men out here like that. :smh:

Now the few times when a woman needs a woman she has trouble. IE baby sitter. A woman can't use a male baby sitter so she has to find a female baby sitter. She will have a hard time finding one. And a female will be reluctant to baby sit for another female saying something like "this aint my baby, i'm just the godmother that doesn't mean i watch the child all the dam time". She cant rely on women like that.

The second reason a female needs a man is for support.

Now this is for the men that arent simps. A woman needs simp friends then she need alpha male friends. I noticed somethings growing up that females do no matter dam near what age. They tend to lean on a man's shoulder. A woman usually wont lean on the shoulder of a woman that she feels will or would stab her in the back. When i was younger and my mother died and i went to live with family friends my sister would allways come to me when she got into trouble. Want me to hold her and everything. Whn i went to live with another family member my cousin would allways come to me when she was whooped or got in trouble and we'd end up laughing or whatever. Shit when i was 18 i had a 23 year old female friend that had a accidental collision with someone in a hall way in her school and she called me. I was the first person she called. No one can make a woman feel safe and protected the way a man can and they look for us to do that when they become friends with us. They want insight and advice from the male perspective on dating. But at the same time she doesn't want to fuck you. Why? Because if she fucks you she is affraid she will catch feelings, she is afraid you'll look at her differently and only talk and call her when you want sex.

Another thing i've noticed about being put in the friend zone is that when you are first talking to her and you're pursuing her and your game is hella tight, i mean ya'll talking for like 3 hours straight sometimes....she will open up to you. She will share things with you, she will slowly open herself up to you to see how you handle it and she may even be shy to approach and talk to you (meaning you have to do it first). But eventually you'll see will play games with you when you start trying to hook up. And after you put her ass on ignore she will chase you. Then after ya'll start talking again and realize you are not going to be a sucker she will do the famous 20% 100% rule and try to steer the friendship in that direction.

And what i mean by the 20% 100% rule is that she will stop giving you 100% of herself. At first ya'll was hella cool and talking good and making progress. Then she started to give you 20% of herself to you because she didn't want to catch feelings.

Now she still wants you to give her 100% of you. And the moment you go from giving 100% of yourself to 89% of yourself she will delete your number even though a 89% you is better then 100% of her friends. She will even call you and ask her "why dont you call me anymore" intead of calling you when she wants to talk to you.

So she wants to give 20% of herself while you give 100% of yourself and she thinks this can happen because 1)she's pretty and allways gets what she wants or 2)she think you would stick around hoping that you would think you could get some ass.

Examples of her giving 100% of herself to 20% is that she used to ask how you were doing, and how was your day, your week, ask about your experiences...she no longer does that. And if she does do that then it's quickly followed about how her day was and what she thinks and shit. She used to bring up subject matter and now she no longer does that. She used to laugh at your corny ass jokes and she no longer does that. She wants to talk about her. It's 100% about her. She doesn't want to go hang out with you when you want to hang out but instead she wants you to hang out with her when she wants to hang out. She needs your perspective and insight and convo but at the same time she doesn't want to connect with you because if she does she knows that those panties can come right the fuck off at any moment.

Word to the wise for my fellow men....the moment she puts you in the friend catergory (the moment she starts to show a lil less interest) give less of yourself to her. It will drive her crazy. She wont know that your actions are a reaction to hers.


Women need men and men need women. this is just the ways in which i know women need men.











[hide]I cant for the hot lotion on a whip cream sandwhich understand how a woman can consider herself friends with another female when she wouldn't take her boyfriend around that "friend" because she feels that they might fuck. :smh:

Not only that but how could you consider him your man....nvm...but how can you call her a friend when you feel the only reason she hasn't stabbed you in the back is because she hasn't had the oppurtunity? :smh:

I couldn't hang out with or be friends with anyone like that. I dont even talk to co-workers on that tip if i know they dirty. But as women, ya'll choose the worst friends sometimes. And choose the worst boyfriends sometimes as well (not saying men dont).[/hide]
 
Good observation. Plenty of guys need to understand what you just said, especially the young cats.
 
I am sad for you because you are so lost. I'm hoping you are 25 or younger because that means you still have time to learn more about women

23, But I don't see what that has to do do with what I said especially seeing that nothing I've said has been challenged.
 
23, But I don't see what that has to do do with what I said especially seeing that nothing I've said has been challenged.
Exactly. Crazy how I could tell your age from your post though. Anyway, maybe if you come back to this thread in a few years you will see what I see. Not gonna go back and forth with you because you will just be stubborn and think you've got it all down to a tee. Good luck to you
 
Exactly. Crazy how I could tell your age from your post though. Anyway, maybe if you come back to this thread in a few years you will see what I see. Not gonna go back and forth with you because you will just be stubborn and think you've got it all down to a tee. Good luck to you

So why....nvm
 
So why....nvm

Your view of male female relationship is very one dimensional. Believe it or not women can benefit your life in other ways than sex. That is what makes your age obvious and your insights lack any real depth. If you want to be an adult be upfront with these women you are doing all these favors for. Women have no problem telling you if you have the chance to get the draws or not. lol Then maybe you wont' be at home wondering how many times you have to wash her car before she lets you smell the pussy. She's thinking you just like to wash her car. lol
 
Your view of male female relationship is very one dimensional. Believe it or not women can benefit your life in other ways than sex. That is what makes your age obvious and your insights lack any real depth. If you want to be an adult be upfront with these women you are doing all these favors for. Women have no problem telling you if you have the chance to get the draws or not. lol Then maybe you wont' be at home wondering how many times you have to wash her car before she lets you smell the pussy. She's thinking you just like to wash her car. lol

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Your view of male female relationship is very one dimensional. Believe it or not women can benefit your life in other ways than sex. That is what makes your age obvious and your insights lack any real depth. If you want to be an adult be upfront with these women you are doing all these favors for. Women have no problem telling you if you have the chance to get the draws or not. lol Then maybe you wont' be at home wondering how many times you have to wash her car before she lets you smell the pussy. She's thinking you just like to wash her car. lol

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Your view of male female relationship is very one dimensional. Believe it or not women can benefit your life in other ways than sex. That is what makes your age obvious and your insights lack any real depth. If you want to be an adult be upfront with these women you are doing all these favors for. Women have no problem telling you if you have the chance to get the draws or not. lol Then maybe you wont' be at home wondering how many times you have to wash her car before she lets you smell the pussy. She's thinking you just like to wash her car. lol

I didn't even read past like your second sentence. I do believe that men can benefit from women. I stated this very clear in like my last paragraph that 'women need men and men* need women'.
 
Your view of male female relationship is very one dimensional. Believe it or not women can benefit your life in other ways than sex. That is what makes your age obvious and your insights lack any real depth. If you want to be an adult be upfront with these women you are doing all these favors for. Women have no problem telling you if you have the chance to get the draws or not. lol Then maybe you wont' be at home wondering how many times you have to wash her car before she lets you smell the pussy. She's thinking you just like to wash her car. lol



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*two cents*
 
I see this is a misinterpretation of what I said. I said 'men need women' not 'men need women and men don't need women'. Perhaps if people read with a open mind and read it for what it's worth that would be obvious. I tried to make this short...if I said about how men needed women this post would be 2x's as long.
 
I see this is a misinterpretation of what I said. I said 'men need women' not 'men need women and men don't need women'. Perhaps if people read with a open mind and read it for what it's worth that would be obvious. I tried to make this short...if I said about how men needed women this post would be 2x's as long.

I ment to say I said 'women need men' what everyone heard was 'women need men but women don't need them'
 
Exactly. Crazy how I could tell your age from your post though. Anyway, maybe if you come back to this thread in a few years you will see what I see. Not gonna go back and forth with you because you will just be stubborn and think you've got it all down to a tee. Good luck to you

Leave this age bullshit alone alot of what said was the and for the most part people are people and people dont change.

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I started a new job and it's a chick in was flirting with for a little. I didnt see any signs coming from her that she was feeling so I just backed out and moved on. Alot of times some dudes just don't get the point and just feed a women's ego and the end result is alot of what we see now. Alot of mature men end up beating a women's ass outta frustration too, id rather walk away early before I'm on of this guys. Women have more than one guy chasing them at all times I see no benefit in being the dude that's the ego booster.

Even though your young, you spoke the truth. Only difference in age is desperation. Alot of older men are pretty desperate and will simply at the drop of a dime. I'm a older man but my mind flows young.

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I started a new job and it's a chick in was flirting with for a little. I didnt see any signs coming from her that she was feeling so I just backed out and moved on. Alot of times some dudes just don't get the point and just feed a women's ego and the end result is alot of what we see now. Alot of mature men end up beating a women's ass outta frustration too, id rather walk away early before I'm on of this guys. Women have more than one guy chasing them at all times I see no benefit in being the dude that's the ego booster.

Even though your young, you spoke the truth. Only difference in age is desperation. Alot of older men are pretty desperate and will simply at the drop of a dime. I'm a older man but my mind flows young.

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Yeah, win some lose some. I know it's the truth because...well I have experiences outside my own that support my theory coupled with fundamental facts I know x's the fact that no one has disputed what I have said. Some people really need to learn what active listening is. It's funny because the people that are trying to discredit me...I agree with them! Yes men need women. if someone was actively listening they would have read that at the end of the paragraph. yes men should keep it real with women. Nobody said they shouldn't or asked 'how come I allways get stuck in the friend zone'. People are co-signing the shit and don't even understand that all of us agree! If some of yall want a thread about how men need women then make it. Shit I'll fucking help you.
 
Your view of male female relationship is very one dimensional. Believe it or not women can benefit your life in other ways than sex. That is what makes your age obvious and your insights lack any real depth. If you want to be an adult be upfront with these women you are doing all these favors for. Women have no problem telling you if you have the chance to get the draws or not. lol Then maybe you wont' be at home wondering how many times you have to wash her car before she lets you smell the pussy. She's thinking you just like to wash her car. lol
Correct.
 
:lmao: at my post being 5 stars at 127 views and then 3 stars after 128 views. the person that decided to rate my thread a 1 star right after someone else rated it a 5 star had all the time in the world to rate it 1 star, aint no coincendent that I got a 1 star after getting a 5. Lol it's all good, you know who you are and I know EXACTLY who you are. Lol that's cute and petty.
 
:lmao: at my post being 5 stars at 127 views and then 3 stars after 128 views. the person that decided to rate my thread a 1 star right after someone else rated it a 5 star had all the time in the world to rate it 1 star, aint no coincendent that I got a 1 star after getting a 5. Lol it's all good, you know who you are and I know EXACTLY who you are. Lol that's cute and petty.

Why do you care about stars? Just asking. Lets just skip the "I don't...i'm just sayin..."

And cut to the chase, the nitty gritty. Why do you care what stars you have? I am curious because i've never really wondered about stars or even cared to notice about stars or anything.

Do stars make you feel special? Do they show your value as a human being? Your status on bgol? What exactly do stars DO? Do you get a prize for how many stars you have?

Just for gits and shiggles lets say i put the 1 star on it? What does THAT say? That means i don't like your post? Or does it mean i really like this thread? I'm assuming 5 is really good. But even if i did say 1 star to this thread, (for the record i don't know how too), would that mean to say i don't like you as a person? Even if i don't know you as a person?

I'm just wondering. You made the post that sparked my curiosity.
 
LOL @ checking views and stars. You're gonna get high blood pressure doing that around these parts :dunno:
 
Why do you care about stars? Just asking. Lets just skip the "I don't...i'm just sayin..."

And cut to the chase, the nitty gritty. Why do you care what stars you have? I am curious because i've never really wondered about stars or even cared to notice about stars or anything.

Do stars make you feel special? Do they show your value as a human being? Your status on bgol? What exactly do stars DO? Do you get a prize for how many stars you have?

Just for gits and shiggles lets say i put the 1 star on it? What does THAT say? That means i don't like your post? Or does it mean i really like this thread? I'm assuming 5 is really good. But even if i did say 1 star to this thread, (for the record i don't know how too), would that mean to say i don't like you as a person? Even if i don't know you as a person?

I'm just wondering. You made the post that sparked my curiosity.

Why do you care about why I care? Answer that and it's the same answer. No sarcasm whatsoever. Exact same reason I care about my stars is the same reason you care about why I care about them.
 
LOL @ checking views and stars. You're gonna get high blood pressure doing that around these parts :dunno:

A person doesn't get high blood pressure until they start to worry*. Not when they care*. Should look up the definition and you'll find out they are different. Then I'll challenge you to show me that I expressed that I was worried.
 
Why do you care about why I care? Answer that and it's the same answer. No sarcasm whatsoever. Exact same reason I care about my stars is the same reason you care about why I care about them.

Why do you care about stars? Just asking. Lets just skip the "I don't...i'm just sayin..."

And cut to the chase, the nitty gritty. Why do you care what stars you have? I am curious because i've never really wondered about stars or even cared to notice about stars or anything.

Do stars make you feel special? Do they show your value as a human being? Your status on bgol? What exactly do stars DO? Do you get a prize for how many stars you have?

Just for gits and shiggles lets say i put the 1 star on it? What does THAT say? That means i don't like your post? Or does it mean i really like this thread? I'm assuming 5 is really good. But even if i did say 1 star to this thread, (for the record i don't know how too), would that mean to say i don't like you as a person? Even if i don't know you as a person?

I'm just wondering. You made the post that sparked my curiosity.

Answer to your question that you're trying to avoid with MY question is bolded in orange. And is in the arial black block font.

I answered you. Could you please answer mine?
 
Answer to your question that you're trying to avoid with MY question is bolded in orange. And is in the arial black block font.

I answered you. Could you please answer mine?

Sheesh...I can't keep doing this but I'll do it this time. The reason why I care about the stars is because I understand the significance of someone resorting to giving my thread a one star when they couldn't find a way to discredit any of what I have said. It's quite flattering. I understand the SIGNIFICANCE. Same way a person might notice that black comedians usually wear a dress at some point in their career: ie martin, eddie murphy, patrice oneal...they realize the significance of it being that people try to emasculate black comedians by wearing dresses. Same way a scientists just so happens to notice that humans are the only animals that drink milk after childhood...you realize the significance of it or you either wait for the significance of it. People one staring what they can't discredit speaks volumes and flatters me. Now why did you care to ask? I gurantee your answer is somewhere along the reasons of mine. Which is why I said if you can answer my question then it's the same
 
Sheesh...I can't keep doing this but I'll do it this time. The reason why I care about the stars is because I understand the significance of someone resorting to giving my thread a one star when they couldn't find a way to discredit any of what I have said. It's quite flattering. I understand the SIGNIFICANCE. Same way a person might notice that black comedians usually wear a dress at some point in their career: ie martin, eddie murphy, patrice oneal...they realize the significance of it being that people try to emasculate black comedians by wearing dresses. Same way a scientists just so happens to notice that humans are the only animals that drink milk after childhood...you realize the significance of it or you either wait for the significance of it. People one staring what they can't discredit speaks volumes and flatters me. Now why did you care to ask? I gurantee your answer is somewhere along the reasons of mine. Which is why I said if you can answer my question then it's the same

Look at that shit, now I can't read :angry: . But that's my own dumbass fault but I knew I'd catch on though. Grrrr
 
Sheesh...I can't keep doing this but I'll do it this time. The reason why I care about the stars is because I understand the significance of someone resorting to giving my thread a one star when they couldn't find a way to discredit any of what I have said. It's quite flattering. I understand the SIGNIFICANCE. Same way a person might notice that black comedians usually wear a dress at some point in their career: ie martin, eddie murphy, patrice oneal...they realize the significance of it being that people try to emasculate black comedians by wearing dresses. Same way a scientists just so happens to notice that humans are the only animals that drink milk after childhood...you realize the significance of it or you either wait for the significance of it. People one staring what they can't discredit speaks volumes and flatters me. Now why did you care to ask? I gurantee your answer is somewhere along the reasons of mine. Which is why I said if you can answer my question then it's the same

Thanks for answering.




I am curious because i've never really wondered about stars or even cared to notice about stars or anything.
See? I asked because of this.


I already...ANSWERED why i cared to ASK. I did it. TWICE.
 
Thanks for answering.





See? I asked because of this.


I already...ANSWERED why i cared to ASK. I did it. TWICE.

I know right. But for some reason I skipped over most of the shit you wrote and read just the 'you're avoiding my question comment' and now I'm sitting here looking like a dumbass and wishing I had read it.
 
Your view of male female relationship is very one dimensional. Believe it or not women can benefit your life in other ways than sex. That is what makes your age obvious and your insights lack any real depth. If you want to be an adult be upfront with these women you are doing all these favors for. Women have no problem telling you if you have the chance to get the draws or not. lol Then maybe you wont' be at home wondering how many times you have to wash her car before she lets you smell the pussy. She's thinking you just like to wash her car. lol
elaborate please i personally dont need any women for anything other then sex dont get me wrong i do enjoy the company of a woman but as far as what a women can do for me is the same thing my wife could do which is sex cook clean and tend to the kids.... thats all i would need a women for but these are also things i can do on my own besides the sex. as a man on my own im very independant but i also agree women use men for different reasons
 
elaborate please i personally dont need any women for anything other then sex dont get me wrong i do enjoy the company of a woman but as far as what a women can do for me is the same thing my wife could do which is sex cook clean and tend to the kids.... thats all i would need a women for but these are also things i can do on my own besides the sex. as a man on my own im very independant but i also agree women use men for different reasons

There are plenty of reasons a man needs a woman. It's 3am and i just got off of work so i'm no going to go indepth but a man needs a woman in business if he has a product where women consume that product at a high rate. Piss women off or make a public statement about women and that shit travels at 1 million nano seconds and they will boycott your ass and put your career on hold. Example: chris brown career on hold for punching Rhi-rhi. Why because he needs women, his target audience is women. Now someone like Mike Tyson who said shit about women, to women and punched his wife has a career because women aren't watching boxing and well they cant really boycott boxing. Women will band together and boycott shit like a man would never do. Men know this and that's why when we fuck up ew apologize 1,000 times and walk on egg shells. Steve Harvey is another example. He spits a lot of truth but he doesn't want to piss women off because he knows that's his primary consumer so he isnt going to say some of the shit us men want him to say.

Another reason men need women is ego boosting. Think about it. Women boost each other ego, the whole girl power, bet shows like "black girls rock" tv boosts women ego by showing them as victims and men as the abusers in TV, oprah boosts their ego and tyra. Men dont boost each other's ego. Their is't one man in the spotlight that actively encourages male anything. We maybe influenced by someone like an Ali or Will Smith but these men aren't promoting men to have high self esteem and big egos.

So a lot of times a man needs a woman to boost his ego and high self esteem. Men need to sleep with women, have the approval of women and even have to hear a woman stroke his ego by saying shit like "you're dick is so big....". My girl did that to me and i swear cant nobody tell me my dick isn't the biggest thing in the world.

Shit i rememeber at my gym i was known as the quite akward guy that was a virgin (i dont know why people think i'm a virgin). Then i started talking to this chick at my gym who is by far the finest and prettiest female up there (popular as well)and happens to be a lesbian. Everybody tried to talk to her and she'd talk to them for a few days if weeks then everybody stopped as she gets bored very easily. Now i come along and start talking to her for 2- some times 3 hours straight and everyone notices it and what do you know.....everyone treats me way different. For the better. It wasn't a conicedence. Everyone is now having this arrogant/sarcastic sense of humor that i display around this girl. Everyone is looking at us, everyone is feeling way more comfortable around me. Women at the gym that i never even fucking noticed are talking to me and starting convos (i dont look like the type you can just walk up to and start a convo with) I needed the approval of a bad ass female for all that to happen. Some of the chicks that were talking to me were old enough to be my mother, some were married, some were about 38ish year old career black women starting a convo with me about some soap i had in my hand. Shit was not a conicedence at all.

Now on the flip side when i have talked to one of my female friends that's plus sized at one of my jobs nobody did or said shit differently.
 
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