48÷2(9+3) = ????
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Hey stupid, here you go. Supplying useless information like the above falls under. Did I really have to quote it for you?
Distributing over like terms is ignorant. You are smarter than Nathan704 and Gods_Dumbass, so your ignorance is more low-key.
You have not shown the blatant dumbness that those mentioned above, your dumbness comes a slightly different form.
If you really want to distribute something, distribute this bitch...
24(9+3)
And don't ask me to do anything else. You are not going to agree with me, and you won't simply agree to disagree.
And are you really this fucking retarded? I didn't read that shit. Let it go.
If you didn't read the shit then why did you say that none of them had anything to do with the original problem?
How would you know this, unless you read them?
You are fuckin awsome!
If you didn't read the shit then why did you say that none of them had anything to do with the original problem?
How would you know this, unless you read them?
You are fuckin awsome!
Because I was watching the game, and I was just fucking with the guy.
I dont give a fuck about this problem anymore but at least I sold a shirt from this shit
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Show me another example of this please. Since it's supposed to be common knowledge it shouldn't be difficult. Anyone who posted this image in this thread can go ahead and take me up on this.
Because I can't find anywhere else that says implied multiplication takes priority over anything else.
Its not commonly taught. That's why its hard to find sources on it outside its usage in calculators. You have a lot of textbooks and teachers who dont abide by this rule.
Heres another example
How did this turn to 34 pages?
Actually its 48 pages
Google this problem as a topic and all the threads are 50+ pages
I dont give a fuck about this problem anymore but at least I sold a shirt from this shit
http://www.zazzle.com/48_2_9_3_tshirt-235882834792365529
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What's with the question marks???? The answer is 288
That's cuz it's only common knowledge amongst the GED crowd.
They went from multiplication outranks division in PEMDAS to the differing division symbols to this implied multiplication nonsense. What's next?
because math is a LANGUAGE and some of these niggas act like bitches when you point out that they are reading it wrong, but i say that with absolute objectivity.
[/QUOTE]Props to me because I posted the image above first. Along with theses that you decide not to post
These examples show were Division comes before Multiplying despite the () still being there
Kaplan PRAXIS 2009 Edition
A professor at Bloomfield College
the bloomfield professor explained that becuase the parenthetical argument was acting ONLY as a multiplier and not as and indicator of grouping you it get's no priority. our problem has grouping in it though... smack yourself. he is telling you grouping parentheses get priority of multiplication in his note as to WHY he did not give it priority as it TYPICALLY does. again, we have grouping. clearly you must distribute the 2
in the first example there is no neccessary priority to multiply or divide first because they yeild the same answer. therefore, it is written casually as you would read the terms as the appear from left to right. dividing the first term going across the addition and multiplying the second term. that's not written by order of operations but as how it appears to the reader because the next line gives you FIRST a quotient a plus sign and then a product as to not confuse the readers of the book it was taken from.
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yeah, you're spending hours jumping on photoshop to make unfunny dry ass corn ball jokes for the mouth breathing crowd that only 5 people on earth and the internet will ever see all the while not contributing anything to the discussion but I'M the dummy?
errrrr, okay run with thatPlease (parentheses)
Excuse (exponents)
My (multiplication)
Dear (division)
Aunt (addition)
Sally (subtraction)
the answer is 2 and no I did not read pages 1-13
and then what comes first? multiplication or division? what is 48 divided by 2*12????been doing this since 5th grade. the answer is 2. Sorry charlie.
This is just a friendly reminder of how much of an idiot you are.
You started in this thread thinking multiplication outranked division and then you morphed your argument to try to continue defending the wrong answer.
This is just a friendly reminder of how much of an idiot you are.
You started in this thread thinking multiplication outranked division and then you morphed your argument to try to continue defending the wrong answer.
Ah shit. It seems to be she definitely was claiming that multiplication outranked division....
"Multiplication involving parentheses outranks division". Clear enough for you?
Have said it multiple times and shown examples from SEVERAL sites with the site owners' credentials posted. I even posted only .edu sites from universities. But nice try fellas. Go ahead. Post some more 'examples' and I will help you. No name calling from me. Just free math help. How often will you get that offer????
Have said it multiple times and shown examples from SEVERAL sites with the site owners' credentials posted. I even posted only .edu sites from universities. But nice try fellas. Go ahead. Post some more 'examples' and I will help you. No name calling from me. Just free math help. How often will you get that offer????
(5+3)^2 solved without taking shortcuts
(5+3)(5+3)= 25+15+15+9= 64
treks example has the problem being solved in this manner
(5+3)^2 = (8)^2=64
now, if you agree that there is a binomial there, than you must recall that binomials are solved in this manner when raised to a power. i'll square in my example. the process works the same no matter what power you raise the -nomial.
(a+b)^2 = (a+b)(a+b)= a^2+2ab+b^2
if you gave a letter to every term in the equation that is the only INTELLECTUALLY HONEST way to solve a binomial. works the same way with multiplication of binomials across a parenthetical.
(5+3)(5+3)= 25+15+15+9= 64
treks example has the problem being solved in this manner
(5+3)^2 = (8)^2=64
now, if you agree that there is a binomial there, than you must recall that binomials are solved in this manner when raised to a power. i'll square in my example. the process works the same no matter what power you raise the -nomial.
(a+b)^2 = (a+b)(a+b)= a^2+2ab+b^2
if you gave a letter to every term in the equation that is the only INTELLECTUALLY HONEST way to solve a binomial. works the same way with multiplication of binomials across a parenthetical.
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from the beginging this has been aboout over reliance on calculators and computres. the problem isn't ambiguity it's that some problems in math can be solved by shortcutting steps and these text books are not addressing that.
Look, I understand some you feeling upset or frustrated because of your lack of math competence. The schools in this country have been failing for decades. But instead of fighting and name-calling, why not just learn from your mistakes now? It's never too late to learn. Be a good example for your own children so that you can help them to be better mathematicians.
No use posting incorrect information and trying to ignore correct info, just to be obstinate. You will never solve this equation or equations like it correctly if you do not understand what the parentheses symbolize. They take priority in EVERY equation. Multiplying a number by a parentheses takes priority over division and when there is another operation in the equation x(y+z) has a higher priority than x*(y+z)
No use posting incorrect information and trying to ignore correct info, just to be obstinate. You will never solve this equation or equations like it correctly if you do not understand what the parentheses symbolize. They take priority in EVERY equation. Multiplying a number by a parentheses takes priority over division and when there is another operation in the equation x(y+z) has a higher priority than x*(y+z)
I think we can all read what your dumb ass wrote...you conceded that the parentheses operation was finished and then smugly asked "and then what came first: multiplication or division?" And proceeded to proclaim that 48/2*12 =2
Then you morphed to this implied multiplication BS. No amount of unrelated problems you keep bringing up will change that.
Then you morphed to this implied multiplication BS. No amount of unrelated problems you keep bringing up will change that.
I think we can all read what your dumb ass wrote...you conceded that the parentheses operation was finished and then smugly asked "and then what came first: multiplication or division?" And proceeded to proclaim that 48/2*12 =2
Then you morphed to this implied multiplication BS. No amount of unrelated problems you keep bringing up will change that.
nycmicrowave, rawness, tre9k, eewwll, etc please feel free to answer as well!!
so the answer is 5 right?
[columbo] ok you are right sir just one last question and I'll leave you alone [/columbo]
if (9+3)20÷48 = 5 ... according to you using your methods
what is the answer to this problem:
(9+3)2÷48 = ???
so the answer is 5 right?
[columbo] ok you are right sir just one last question and I'll leave you alone [/columbo]
if (9+3)20÷48 = 5 ... according to you using your methods
what is the answer to this problem:
(9+3)2÷48 = ???
One mo gin:
I have said this since I entered the thread. Don't pick and choose. You only make yourself look MORE foolish. Learn from your mistakes and move forward. I won't even ask for an apology because I understand that incompetence can cause an incompetent person to respond in many ways...
Again:
ABSOLUTELY multiplication comes next when parentheses are involved. Even the people responding 288 have posted source that say this. But conveniently it is being ignored. You can't pick and choose which rukes you want to use when it comes to math. That is why it is a universal language: except, apparently, in the United States.
nycmicrowave, rawness, tre9k, eewwll, etc please feel free to answer as well!!
so the answer is 5 right?
[columbo] ok you are right sir just one last question and I'll leave you alone [/columbo]
if (9+3)20÷48 = 5 ... according to you using your methods
what is the answer to this problem:
(9+3)2÷48 = ???
he's doing STRICTLY left to right when multiplication and division are involved.
they are also going on to make up a rule they have never posted any supportive evidence about claiming that the terms inside are the only terms effected by the parenthetical priority. HOWEVER, we HAVE seen OTHER evidence to the CONTRARY to support OUR case. he is saying that somehow even though you CAN multiply the 2 through the binomial you ignore that because there is a special case here where you have ADDITION OVER MULTIPLICATION.
but they still have yet to dispute that 2(a+b)= (2a+2b)
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nycmicrowave, rawness, tre9k, eewwll, etc please feel free to answer as well!!
so the answer is 5 right?
[columbo] ok you are right sir just one last question and I'll leave you alone [/columbo]
if (9+3)20÷48 = 5 ... according to you using your methods
what is the answer to this problem:
(9+3)2÷48 = ???
How many of these problems you conjure up do you expect us to do?
We, unlike y'all, use the same convention EVERY TIME...not just when we feel like it.
First, we go through, from left to right, and solve the insides of the parentheses.
Then, we go through, from left to right, and solve all exponents.
Then, we go through, from left to right, and multiply/divide (they're the same arithmetic function)
Then, we go through, from left to right, and add/subtract (they're the same arithmetic function)
So the answer to your question is 0.5.
That is NOT the reciprocal of the original problem, that is the recipricol of 48/(2(9+3)). So you've wasted your time.
Now you answer this:
48*0.5(9+3)=??????
and i'm going to go on record to say that this '÷' and '/' this DO mean the same thing
but..
48÷2(9+3)≠(48÷2)(9+3)
but..
48÷2(9+3)≠(48÷2)(9+3)
Good, so can we to a consensus to kill that silly ass argument in this thread? And no running back to it later either
dude it's still 2
you're not respecting the order of operations. i understand if it was never fully explained to you that .5 must me multiplied through the paretheses FIRST but you're not following operative orders if you decide to multipy .5 through 48 FIRST you get 288. an answer i can also arrive at if i do the THE STEPS OUT OF ORDER! parentheses first pimpin'
2(a+b)=(2a+2b)
Good, so can we to a consensus to kill that silly ass argument in this thread? And no running back to it later either
nigga I BEEN said they where of equal MATHEMATICAL weight, where have you been?
parentheses still get's highest priority and multiplication still get's more priority that addition.
you are SUPPOSED to multiply the 2 through the parenthetical terms first because multiplication is a higher degree than addition
As has been explained to you several times, "parentheses" step refers to what's inside of the parentheses. Everything inside has to be resolved down to a single number (by performing a secondary PEMDAS loop) before moving on to the next level.
PS
2(a+b) =2*(a+b) = 2a + 2b
That's the distributive property. You skip the middle step because it is implied, and that's fine, but it's there.
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