You're multiplying. 2(9+3) = 2 * (9+3) = 2 * 12. You call it simplifying but it's multiplication. You can't touch the 2 until you do (9+3) first. Once you do that then multiply the 2. You don't do it during the "P" part because it's the "M" part.
48÷2(9+3) = ????
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You're multiplying. 2(9+3) = 2 * (9+3) = 2 * 12. You call it simplifying but it's multiplication. You can't touch the 2 until you do (9+3) first. Once you do that then multiply the 2. You don't do it during the "P" part because it's the "M" part.
-1, 1, and 2 but you are on the wrong track of state.
You're trying so hard to prove my ignorance, and doing so little to hide your own "eternal ignorance" 
rolleyes.
Show me one of his examples that has to be simplified. There are NO Parentheses that have to be solved in his examples. The only one that does includes brackets which makes it a totally different equation you silly fuck.
rolleyes.Show me one of his examples that has to be simplified. There are NO Parentheses that have to be solved in his examples. The only one that does includes brackets which makes it a totally different equation you silly fuck.
Its Simplification, and its called that to avoid confusion. You do it during the P part because its part of the Parentheses like an Exponent would be.
You're trying so hard to prove my ignorance, and doing so little to hide your own "eternal ignorance"
Show me one of his examples that has to be simplified. There are NO Parentheses that have to be solved in his examples. The only one that does includes brackets which makes it a totally different equation you silly fuck.
I'm done with you after your statement. If you can't see connections between examples he posted that support your own conclusion, I know you won't see the one that support mine.
I have written you off as ignorant.
Oh and for the record, you proved your own ignorance @4:36 Eastern Standard time on 4/10/11
"None of these examples come close to the OP equation.."
I'm done with you!
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After you solve for P inYou're trying so hard to prove my ignorance, and doing so little to hide your own "eternal ignorance"
Show me one of his examples that has to be simplified. There are NO Parentheses that have to be solved in his examples. The only one that does includes brackets which makes it a totally different equation you silly fuck.
48÷2(9+3) it becomes 48÷2(12)
So how is it different from
-10÷2(5)
and
8÷4(2)
Interesting. The Exponent comes after the P part (just like Multiplication) and is not a "Part of the Parentheses".
2(12)^2 = 2(144)
and not
(2*12)^2
You don't touch the 2 until you after the Exponent.
same
2(9+3)^2 = 2(12)^2 = 2(144)
Maybe I'm missing something.
Then the 2 acts as an Exponent. Then its 48 ÷ 24 or
Example: 10 - 2(3 + 6)
2(3 + 6)
2(3 + 6)
2(9)
18
10 - 18 = -8
Hes making shit up.
You dont need to apply distributive property when they are like terms
Even in the examples he posted, it doesnt show distributing. You had to solve whats in the () first
Im making shit up huh?
Why did a reputable Math site back my position? Are they making shit up too?
60% of the people that voted on this poll made some shit up?
Then the 2 acts as an Exponent. Then its 48 ÷ 24 or.
Example: 10 - 2(3 + 6)
2(3 + 6)
2(3 + 6)
2(9)
18
10 - 18 = -8
That would mean the twos in these problems are exponents
-10÷2(5)
and
48÷2(12)
Which would make any sense because there nothing telling you its an exponent.
Then the 2 acts as an Exponent. Then its 48 ÷ 24 or.
Example: 10 - 2(3 + 6)
2(3 + 6)
2(3 + 6)
2(9)
18
10 - 18 = -8
So how about 2(3+6)^2?
Do you do (2*3+2*6)^2
or
2(81)?
I didnt say it was an Exponent. I said it acted like one, not literally.
Im making shit up huh?
Why did a reputable Math site back my position? Are they making shit up too?
60% of the people that voted on this poll made some shit up?
I posted reputable material supporting me
Bingo
Again show me how the examples below are different from
48÷2(12).
brackets are the same as () in the example.
Even the last two support your claim.
These examples show were Division comes before Multiplying despite the () still being there
Kaplan PRAXIS 2009 Edition
A professor at Bloomfield College
These example show when you solve for the multiplication first, despite the division being on the far left.
Intermediate Algebra
By Ron Larson, Kimberly Nolting
Purplemath.com
48÷2(12).
brackets are the same as () in the example.
Even the last two support your claim.
These examples show were Division comes before Multiplying despite the () still being there
Kaplan PRAXIS 2009 Edition
A professor at Bloomfield College
These example show when you solve for the multiplication first, despite the division being on the far left.
Intermediate Algebra
By Ron Larson, Kimberly Nolting
Purplemath.com
Damn eewwll, you still in here? I sang my swan song a minute ago as an active participant.
In the end it comes down to communication. Communicate clearly in the equation the way you want it solved. I just hope those who use math in areas where lives are concerned realize this.
Otherwise it's only a matter of time before we nuke ourselves.
Anyone that watches the above video and says its bunk is obviously just being a pessimist.
Nathan, do you understand that you are telling people their examples are not valid, then you turn around and post one that is truly invalid?
In this video you posted, you do the multiplication before you do the subtraction.
In the OP's equation, after you do the addition in the parentheses all that's left is division and multiplication. Since they are of equal precedence you then do the math from left to right.
Please note in the video you posted the symbol over the MD and the AS. That signifies that it's not multiplication THEN division, or addition THEN subtraction, but rather multiplication and division THEN addition and subtraction.
the math in the video is absolutely correct. But in your haste to prove others wrong you chose an example that is not similar to the OP's, or even the other examples that you claim were not similar at all (they are).
Where did I get that answer wrong? Is 9*9 not 81 fam? Is 4*4 not 16?
Damn eewwll, you still in here? I sang my swan song a minute ago as an active participant.
In the end it comes down to communication. Communicate clearly in the equation the way you want it solved. I just hope those who use math in areas where lives are concerned realize this.
Otherwise it's only a matter of time before we nuke ourselves.
If there is one thing that I changed my stance on, is that it can be seen as ambiguous. When we have sources, calculators and software on both sides I gotta admit that it's ambiguous.
It's not gonna end yet, because we are still having fun calling each other ignorant.
I got that wrong so that's why I deleted it. But answer this
2(9)^2 ...why isn't the parentheses bound to the 2 like you're stating in the other equation?
So in this example, you're saying that your simplification is not part of the "P" process.
Notice how you do the multiplying (simplification) last. Same holds true for 48÷2(9+3). You do the multiplying (simplification) after the "P" & "E" whether there's an exponent or not.
48 ÷ 2 (12)
or
48 ÷ 2 * 12.
It is. Look at the whole thing.
Im done after this
WTF????
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These examples show were Division comes before Multiplying despite the () still being there
Kaplan PRAXIS 2009 Edition
A professor at Bloomfield College
These example show when you solve for the multiplication first, despite the division being on the far left.
Intermediate Algebra
By Ron Larson, Kimberly Nolting
Purplemath.com
WTF????
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