2015-2016 NBA playoff edition: Finals - Cavs vs Warriors - Cavs win 4-3

[noriega]

You put LeBron on GS, and have him miss a game, and you have the same result as you had last night in Houston. Funny how you desperately want to negate Curry's talent and impact and your hate for him has you saying some really low intelligence stuff. The difference is NOT just Oh, Cleveland would struggle without LeBron and GS won without Curry so LeBron is way better... There are other factors involved: GS is a better team, better coached, the chemistry between the players is better, every player knows and has embraced their roles, and they are champions... Cleveland is... well, Cleveland...

You go on with your hate Bruh, but you reaching is on the verge of epic proportions and is starting to get a little embarrassing Bruh...


Just answering

I think he's trying to say curry is on a better team.... And if you were to put curry on Cleveland would they have the success they have with lebron?... Lebron hands down is the most impactful player in the league... Curry' team is superior to Lebron's team.... And it isn't because of Curry or Lebron.... Its simple just curry's teammates and better than lebron's teammates with or without their superstars

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

I think he's trying to say curry is on a better team.... And if you were to put curry on Cleveland would they have the success they have with lebron?... Lebron hands down is the most impactful player in the league... Curry' team is superior to Lebron's team.... And it isn't because of Curry or Lebron.... Its simple just curry's teammates and better than lebron's teammates with or without their superstars

Totally disagee especially this season unless you are siloing impactful into minimal areas. What is your definition of inpactful as it applies to your statement?

 

[Day_Carver]

You put LeBron on GS, and have him miss a game, and you have the same result as you had last night in Houston. Funny how you desperately want to negate Curry's talent and impact and your hate for him has you saying some really low intelligence stuff. The difference is NOT just Oh, Cleveland would struggle without LeBron and GS won without Curry so LeBron is way better... There are other factors involved: GS is a better team, better coached, the chemistry between the players is better, every player knows and has embraced their roles, and they are champions... Cleveland is... well, Cleveland...

You go on with your hate Bruh, but you reaching is on the verge of epic proportions and is starting to get a little embarrassing Bruh...


Just answering

Very true..and again it really doesn't matter who is better because LBJ ain't winning the chip so.........and then if we really want to have the discussion about both players let's take the teams out of it...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Very true..and again it really doesn't matter who is better because LBJ ain't winning the chip so.........and then if we really want to have the discussion about both players let's take the teams out of it...

Yep. Im not the one the team dynamic tho... You know who introduced that component... And why

 

[Day_Carver]

What happens if Bron miss a playoff game? Im jus askin

What happens if Paul misses a game? Eat about leonard or George?

 

[Day_Carver]

Golden State is the greatest team ever assembled. Their MVP sits out and they score more points than in Game 1. Dray flirting with a triple double, Klay giving you 30+, Livingston with 16 in place of Steph. Fo, fo, fo, fo!

Do u really believe this? Seriously?

 

[Day_Carver]

Yep. Im not the one the team dynamic tho... You know who introduced that component... And why

Yes we know who and yes we know why, but

 

[Day_Carver]

Looking at the Cavs this year and they look just like the team last year, before the Mozgov trade.... The thing about that trade is that it gave them a legit rim protector and by getting rid of Waiters and getting Shump and JR, it allowed Irving to move to the point and moved JR and Shump to the 2 spot., this upgraded their perimeter defense..
So the trade gave them some perimeter defense, that prevented dribble penetration and gave them a rim protector, plus they had to option of playing Thompson if teams went small..
Now Mozgov is a shell of himself, Shumpert don't look 100, and Irving looks like he lost lateral movement step and with no rim protector this leaves the defense vulnerable..
I noticed what they were doing was collapsing in the paint, leaving the outside shooters wide open..
And to make matters even worse, they are too small for big teams and not athletic enough for smaller teams, just like before the trade...
I think they finally realized that they are handicapped and said fuck trying to be the team they were last year (a team that would beat you with their half court game and rebounding) by pulling out their center (well half a center Thompson) replacing him with Love..
I guess their logic is whats the use of trying to get rebounds when you cannot stop the other team from making shots and the guy you have in there to get rebounds cannot create his shot on the other side..
This plan actually worked vs a bigger Piston team so perhaps they have their style to go up against bigger teams...
Its going to be interesting to see the changes both teams make and to see if this smaller Cavs team can actually function as a unit.. If not they are going to have some big match up problems especially vs teams like the Heat and other athletic, bigger teams...

And u realize this when? And the reason why I'm asking is because dudes been saying this the whole dam year about the cavs but u was disputing it...so what dawned on u to change your mind?

 

[Day_Carver]

They need to call that shit consistently then. You can't call that bullshit on teams in the regular season and then when the post season come you swallow your whistle. Swallow your whistle in the regular season too. Got Harden getting 20 free throws a game and shit.

It's always been like that but the Rockets deserve to get no calls,fuck them..worst team I've ever seen make the playoffs..totally embarrassing..i don't understand how any of them can been on the team next year..everyone needs to be dealt...

 

[RoadRage]

And u realize this when? And the reason why I'm asking is because dudes been saying this the whole dam year about the cavs but u was disputing it...so what dawned on u to change your mind?

When Mozgov and Irving defense didn't get any better... I wil be interesting to see if they have the balls to start Love at the 5 next game... I doubt if they do but if Thompson continues to have trouble with bigger men, like he has all season, I look for the Cavs to play ultra small...

 

[Amajorfucup]

Mother natural washing Htown out...
Just affecting the wrong folks

Dam.

What happens if Westbrook misses a playoff game? Do his OKC teammates pick up the slack?

Dont answer a question with a question.

You put LeBron on GS, and have him miss a game, and you have the same result as you had last night in Houston. Funny how you desperately want to negate Curry's talent and impact and your hate for him has you saying some really low intelligence stuff...

You probably shouldnt comment on anyones intellect when you're too fucking stupid to understand the glaringly obvious purpose and premise of the question you fail to answer. Dummy.

I think he's trying to say curry is on a better team.... And if you were to put curry on Cleveland would they have the success they have with lebron?... Lebron hands down is the most impactful player in the league... Curry' team is superior to Lebron's team.... And it isn't because of Curry or Lebron.... Its simple just curry's teammates and better than lebron's teammates with or without their superstars

Bingo. No idea why the obvious truth is so hard for some of these dumb muthafuckas to accept.

What happens if Paul misses a game? Eat about leonard or George?

Ill bother answering when some fool dare says any are better than Lebron. Dummy.

 

[Day_Carver]

When Mozgov and Irving defense didn't get any better... I wil be interesting to see if they have the balls to start Love at the 5 next game... I doubt if they do but if Thompson continues to have trouble with bigger men, like he has all season, I look for the Cavs to play ultra small...

But that's the thing Irving defense never really improved or was impressive..smith has always played like this and Shump was ok at best..Cavs are good enough to come out of the eastand that's it..wouldn't be surprised if GS sweeps them..

 

[Day_Carver]

Dam.


Dont answer a question with a question.


You probably shouldnt comment on anyones intellect when you're too fucking stupid to understand the glaringly obvious purpose and premise of the question you fail to answer. Dummy.


Bingo. No idea why the obvious truth is so hard for some of these dumb muthafuckas to accept.


Ill bother answering when some fool dare says any are better than Lebron. Dummy.

How is LBJ better?curious

 

[RoadRage]

But that's the thing Irving defense never really improved or was impressive..smith has always played like this and Shump was ok at best..Cavs are good enough to come out of the eastand that's it..wouldn't be surprised if GS sweeps them..

Remember last year when I said that that Irving has very fast feet and hands, and as soon as Waiters was traded he was locking down many of the top guards... Well this year he has been a step slower and the fact that they are lacking a rim protector only exacerbates things..
So basically they are the same team, now that they were before the trade...

 

[Day_Carver]

Remember last year when I said that that Irving has very fast feet and hands, and as soon as Waiters was traded he was locking down many of the top guards... Well this year he has been a step slower and the fact that they are lacking a rim protector only exacerbates things..
So basically they are the same team, now that they were before the trade...

And why is he a step slower?

 

[RoadRage]

And why is he a step slower?

Obviously from the surgery.....

 

[RoadRage]

Don't get me wrong he is not slow cant do shit slow, he's more like slow Wade slow, meaning he needs to play with a shot blocker behind him so he can be smart D... Also remember this was one of my knocks on Bosh, saying he was great as a 4 but as a center he is a liability due to his inability to rebound and block shots, at that position.. But with a real center then he could be used to either play the 4 or go 5 vs teams that like to play small, but in both cases it allows Wade to play a more of a team oriented defense...

 

[KingTaharqa]

Do u really believe this? Seriously?

Yes I do. Dray did almost have triple double. Klay did score 34. And they did win by double digits. I know its not supposed to be said but Golden State has proven they can win without Stephs points and they are NOT a one man show. With him they are unbeatable. Dont see them losing a game.

 

[Day_Carver]

Yes I do. Dray did almost have triple double. Klay did score 34. And they did win by double digits. I know its not supposed to be said but Golden State has proven they can win without Stephs points and they are NOT a one man show. With him they are unbeatable. Dont see them losing a game.

But they were playing the Rockets...i think their team is great but to say best ever well that's a little far fetched

 

[Day_Carver]

Obviously from the surgery.....

I think what you are saying about the cavs has been stated from various people on this board several times several different ways throughout the whole year nothing has changed from the beginning of the year until now in reference to them they are who we thought think they are

 

[RoadRage]

I think what you are saying about the cavs has been stated from various people on this board several times several different ways throughout the whole year nothing has changed from the beginning of the year until now in reference to them they are who we thought think they are

The biggest thing that has changed is the ineffectiveness of Mozgov from last year to now... With out him they are no longer able to play effective team defense and are not forced to play one on one, something this team is not designed to do..

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

You probably shouldnt comment on anyones intellect when you're too fucking stupid to understand the glaringly obvious purpose and premise of the question you fail to answer. Dummy.
.

The only thing glaringly obvious is for the past few months you have been desperately trying to find some bullshit ass analogy to shit on Curry's excellence only to be constantly owned, and with each time your attempts become more and more pathetic... But keep trying though Bruh, sooner or later you will either make a little bit of sense, or get tired of embarrassing yourself...

So, no matter how many rogue cosigns you get, the whole board see your weak ass bullshit for what it is, hatred causing what APPEARS to be a realitively intelligent Dude to post stupid shit!

Must suck to be you Bruh....

Now... Go on one of your rants... We all can use a little humor laughing at your high blood pressure, knock the checkers off the checkerboard at the senior center, pathetic and predictable rah rah tantrum...

Now... GO!!!!

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Yes I do. Dray did almost have triple double. Klay did score 34. And they did win by double digits. I know its not supposed to be said but Golden State has proven they can win without Stephs points and they are NOT a one man show. With him they are unbeatable. Dont see them losing a game.

Real spit homie!

 

[Mask]

The biggest thing that has changed is the ineffectiveness of Mozgov from last year to now... With out him they are no longer able to play effective team defense and are not forced to play one on one, something this team is not designed to do..

Yea Don't know what's up with TMo, I know he was recovering form that surgery early but damn....

Tmo's his disappearing, Kyrie not aggressive on defense, shum out, it's understandable they we're slacking on defense... New coach who's preaching a fast pace...

They're lucky to be where they are...

 

[Mask]

We Just Saw The Most Lopsided Playoff Openers In Modern NBA History
The NBA playoffs are all about tough, grueling battles between evenly matched teams.

Well, the late rounds of the NBA playoffs are, at least. The opening round doesn’t usually offer much in the way of drama, and this year was shaping up to offer a particularly lopsided set of first-round matchups — particularly in the Western Conference:


Sure enough, the weekend rolled around and six of the eight Game 1s finished with double-digit scoring margins, with five decided by 20 or more points and three of those decided by 30 or more. The average point differential of this season’s opening playoff games was 20.5, the highest of any season since the NBA expanded to its current playoff format in 1984.

SEASON AVERAGE MARGIN OF VICTORY SEASON AVERAGE MARGIN OF VICTORY
1 2016 20.5 18 2012 11.3
2 1995 19.6 19 2008 10.9
3 1986 16.5 20 2006 10.9
4 1997 16.4 21 2015 10.6
5 1999 16.3 22 1994 10.4
6 2013 16.0 23 1988 10.0
7 2009 15.6 24 2002 9.8
8 1991 15.0 25 2010 9.1
9 1985 14.9 26 2001 8.8
10 2004 14.8 27 2007 8.5
11 1996 14.8 28 2003 8.1
12 1992 14.5 29 1984 7.8
13 1987 14.5 30 2014 7.5
14 1998 12.9 31 1989 7.5
15 2005 12.8 32 2000 6.6
16 1993 12.0 33 2011 6.1
17 1990 11.8
The NBA playoffs with the most lopsided opening games
Includes opening-round Game 1s starting in 1984

SOURCE: BASKETBALL-REFERENCE.COM

Again, though, this wasn’t entirely unexpected. Our Elo power ratings (whichestimate each team’s strength at any given moment) called for last weekend’s Game 1s to end with an average margin of 8.1 points per game — which would rank fifth-highest since 1984 — before the ball was ever tipped off.

AVERAGE MARGIN OF VICTORY AVERAGE MARGIN OF VICTORY
YEAR ACTUAL EXPECTED DIFFERENCE YEAR ACTUAL EXPECTED DIFFERENCE
1995 19.6 7.0 +12.6 1994 10.4 5.7 +4.7
2016 20.5 8.1 +12.4 2008 10.9 6.3 +4.6
1999 16.3 6.7 +9.6 2015 10.6 6.4 +4.2
2013 16.0 7.7 +8.3 1990 11.8 7.6 +4.1
1997 16.4 8.2 +8.2 2010 9.1 5.3 +3.8
1991 15.0 6.9 +8.1 1993 12.0 8.4 +3.6
2009 15.6 7.6 +8.1 2001 8.8 5.2 +3.5
1986 16.5 8.6 +7.9 2002 9.8 6.8 +3.0
2005 12.8 5.1 +7.7 1988 10.0 7.3 +2.7
1985 14.9 7.4 +7.5 2003 8.1 5.7 +2.4
1987 14.5 7.3 +7.2 2014 7.5 5.5 +2.0
2004 14.8 7.6 +7.2 1984 7.8 5.9 +1.8
1996 14.8 8.1 +6.7 2007 8.5 7.4 +1.1
1992 14.5 7.8 +6.7 2000 6.6 6.4 0.3
2012 11.3 5.9 +5.4 1989 7.5 7.6 -0.1
2006 10.9 5.7 +5.2 2011 6.1 8.2 -2.0
1998 12.9 8.1 +4.8
Most lopsided NBA playoff openers, relative to expectations
Source: BAsketball-reference.com

If we adjust for this, 2016’s blowouts look a little less impressive. In the opening games of the 1995 playoffs, for instance, the victors won by an average of 19.6 against an expected margin of only 7.0 points per game, for a difference of 12.6 PPG — a more lopsided set of Game 1s, relative to expectations, than this year’s, though just barely.

But even if this weekend wasn’t No. 1 relative to expectations, its games signaled that we could be in for some pretty unbalanced playoff basketball in the early going. As ugly as things could get, however, keep this in mind: If the favorites prevail, especially in the West, the reward for an unexciting first round could be one of the most competitive, talent-rich second rounds in NBA history.

 

[noriega]

The love affair for this team is crazy..... How in the hell does Andre iguadala come in 2nd place for the 6th man of the year award??

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

The love affair for this team is crazy..... How in the hell does Andre iguadala come in 2nd place for the 6th man of the year award??

73 wins will do that for you

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

The love affair for this team is crazy..... How in the hell does Andre iguadala come in 2nd place for the 6th man of the year award??

Can we stop calling it a love affair though?
Love affair is reserved for teams that ain't doing shit but still somehow find themselves in the mix of conversations
These dudes are the defending champions, who followed it up by winning 73 games and are up 2-0 in the playoffs playing 1 game without the reigning MVP.

 

[Mask]

Can we stop calling it a love affair though?
Love affair is reserved for teams that ain't doing shit but still somehow find themselves in the mix of conversations
These dudes are the defending champions, who followed it up by winning 73 games and are up 2-0 in the playoffs playing 1 game without the reigning MVP.

Yea if this a love affair it's granted

 

[M.H.C.]

Can we stop calling it a love affair though?
Love affair is reserved for teams that ain't doing shit but still somehow find themselves in the mix of conversations
These dudes are the defending champions, who followed it up by winning 73 games and are up 2-0 in the playoffs playing 1 game without the reigning MVP.

Exactly. They have earned all the attention that they get.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Exactly. They have earned all the attention that they get.

Good and Bad.
Im coming to terms with the hate slowly but surely.

 

[BDR]

Good and Bad.
Im coming to terms with the hate slowly but surely.

People should direct their hate at the Clippers and Doc Rivers for opening their mouths

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

People should direct their hate at the Clippers and Doc Rivers for opening their mouths

I like that this team takes that shit personally. I want them to play intense every game in the playoffs. they didn't last year.
if this was last year they probably would've lost this game and klay would've had 12 points.

no predictions throughout but they seem to be dialed back in.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Can we stop calling it a love affair though?
Love affair is reserved for teams that ain't doing shit but still somehow find themselves in the mix of conversations
These dudes are the defending champions, who followed it up by winning 73 games and are up 2-0 in the playoffs playing 1 game without the reigning MVP.

Funny thing is it's more of a hate affair then I love affair. Their accolades have been earned. Jealousy is a powerful drug!

 

[Mask]

Funny thing is it's more of a hate affair then I love affair. Their accolades have been earned. Jealousy is a powerful drug!

Which is fueling them...