08/14 7:00 pm Mike Vick's Lawyers Want Him to Plead Guilty

geckosticky1 said:
What happens when he gets a fine and a 4 year sentence for being Black when whites say fuck the same laws and get slaps on the wrist? Do black people really hate one another this much because of money and the pursuit of whiteness?

Uh.... Mike is not being pursued for "anything" because he is black. Mike Vick is being charged with engaging in criminal activity of which he was a co-conspirator. Had his name been Brett Favre or Peyton Manning, he would be dealing with the same kind of stuff....

If you wanna be mad at anybody, be mad at Mike Vick. No one begged him to finance and participate in dog-fighting....... he thought it up himself.
 
elchoccolatte said:
I just don't understand WHY???



Like he didnt have anything more constructive to do... DUMBASS, Now he'll figure all that out when he's in the State Penn, Gettin "SACKED"


I feel ya.... When it first broke a couple of months back, I thought this must have been some kind of misunderstanding....
 
geckosticky1 said:
Ignorance in regards to your mentality is a word wasted on you. :smh:


If people like "you" really "cared" about Mike Vick, you would have told him years ago that participating in dog fighting was gonna get him put him in jail... but since you didn't.... now he's gotta face the music.

"Real friends" don't sit by watching there friends get into trouble without saying anything about it.....
 
RICO offenses and definitions
Racketeering activity means:

*Any act or threat involving gambling, murder, kidnapping, arson, robbery, bribery, extortion, dealing in obscene matter, or dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act), which is chargeable under State law and punishable by imprisonment for more than one year;

*Any act which is indictable under a wide variety of specific provisions of title 18 of the United States Code relating to bribery, counterfeiting, theft, embezzlement, fraud, obscene matter, obstruction of justice, slavery, racketeering, gambling, money laundering, commission of murder-for-hire, etc.

*Any act which is indictable under title 29, United States Code, section 186 (dealing with restrictions on payments and loans to labor organizations) or section 501 (c) (relating to embezzlement from union funds),

*Any offense involving fraud connected with a case under title 11 (except a case under section 157 of this title), fraud in the sale of securities, or the felonious manufacture, importation, receiving, concealment, buying, selling, or otherwise dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act), punishable under any law of the United States,
Any act which is indictable under the Currency and Foreign Transactions Reporting Act,

*Any act which is indictable under the Immigration and Nationality Act, section 274 (relating to bringing in and harboring certain aliens), section 277 (relating to aiding or assisting certain aliens to enter the United States), or section 278 (relating to importation of alien for immoral purpose) if the act indictable under such section of such Act was committed for the purpose of financial gain, or
Any act that is indictable under any provision listed in section 2332b (g)(5)(B);
Pattern of racketeering activity requires at least two acts of racketeering activity, one of which occurred after the effective date of this chapter and the last of which occurred within ten years (excluding any period of imprisonment) after the commission of a prior act of racketeering activity; The Supreme Court has instructed federal courts to follow the continuity plus relationship test in order to determine whether the facts of a specific case give rise to an established pattern. Predicate acts are related if they "have the same or similar purposes, results, participants, victims, or methods of commission, or otherwise are interrelated by distinguishing characteristics and are not isolated events." H.J. Inc. v. Northwestern Bell Telephone Co. Continuity is both a closed and open ended concept, referring to either a closed period of conduct, or to past conduct that by its nature projects into the future with a threat of repetition.

Basically he could loose all his money if any is found to be connected to the dog fights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RICO_Act#RICO_offenses_and_definitions


*Given that one of the original purposes of the RICO Act was to seize all of the assets of criminal organizations and basically cripple the economic strength of these groups, in the 30 years since it was passed, has the RICO Act economically crippled the Mafia or other criminal groups?
http://www.ricoact.com/ricoact/faq.asp#does
 
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Swole718 said:
this ain't got shit to do with color. without question WRONG is WRONG!

Okay, yeah, we all know it's dumb to be involved in dog fighting -- but pulling the muthafuckin' RICO Act???!! :rolleyes:

This just happens to be some misguided young ball player flush w/ cash that participates in a stupid hood pastime not some heavyweight international crime lord.

Vindictive crackas throughout history have always gone overboard in retaliation for a perceived wrong. :smh:
 
WadeWilson said:
RICO offenses and definitions
Racketeering activity means:

*Any act or threat involving gambling, murder, kidnapping, arson, robbery, bribery, extortion, dealing in obscene matter, or dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act), which is chargeable under State law and punishable by imprisonment for more than one year;

Vick hasn't been charged by the Feds with RICO yet. However, the media is reporting that if he doesn't accept the current plea by this friday, then they will hit him with it next week.
 
CHEF! said:
Okay, yeah, we all know it's dumb to be involved in dog fighting -- but pulling the muthafuckin' RICO Act???!! :rolleyes:

This just happens to be some misguided young ball player flush w/ cash that participates in a stupid hood pastime not some heavyweight international crime lord.

Vindictive crackas throughout history have always gone overboard in retaliation for a perceived wrong. :smh:


RICO offenses and definitions
Racketeering activity means:

*Any act or threat involving "gambling", murder, kidnapping, arson, robbery, bribery, extortion, dealing in obscene matter, or dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act), which is chargeable under State law and punishable by imprisonment for more than one year;
 
geckosticky1 said:
Are any of you aware or the fact that we are watching a modern day lynching??? I'll drop some names to let you see what I'm talking about. Paris Hilton, Martha Stewart, the list goes on but does anybody else see what I'm talking about.


Don't turn your back on Black. Dog fighting may not be cool but Black people need a OJ verdict out of this shit. Barry Bonds will be fucked with a lot harder in the coming future. Stand up don't sell out is all I'm saying.

As i wise man once said:
Fuck. That. Shit.

Idiot nimrod nincomfuckin-poop mu fuckas...


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kin to me.

Vick better learn to throw somea these:

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some of you get carried away.

RICO? not yet and not likely. at the moment, michael vick is facing a CONSPIRACY beef, not a rico act violation.

also, prosecutors DON'T want RICO cases. they're complicated, difficult and messy.

on top of that, RICO isn't necessary in this case. they got michael vick linked to all sorts of shit in this case. RICO is better suited for charging defendants that were wise enough to not get their hands dirty.
 
Reality. Dog fighting takes place all over country, continent and globe. Dog fighting is a regional thing like cock fighting. It may not be your thing but many folks are involved in this activity. I won't call it stupid. It's not my thing.

Shooting dice, playing cards, dominoes or anything else for money is illegal too. So, if the feds came after a brother for hosting cards game at their home I guess he would be equally demonized.

Another thing yall ain't considering. Fed don't make deals if the conviction is a lock. They trying to intimidate him thru the media. They don't want these co defendents on the stand. Who knows how these country boys will handle some serious cross examination from a good attorney.

Fight M Vick Fight.

This whole thing is bullshit. This whole thing could had been launched by the team owner who doesn't want to honor Vicks contract without having a backlash from the locals.

I aint mad at Vick.

He still has millions of dollars in the bank. At worst, he will do his months in prison. He will probably be back in the NFL in the 08 or 09 season. He is still a young man. Or, he can set back and watch his wealth grow until he gets old and gray.
 
rNubb said:
Fight M Vick Fight.

This whole thing is bullshit. This whole thing could had been launched by the team owner who doesn't want to honor Vicks contract without having a backlash from the locals.
I aint mad at Vick.


Clearly... you don't know anything about Arthur Blank, the falcons owner or what people who live in Atlanta think about this mess...


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Shooting dice, playing cards, dominoes or anything else for money is illegal too. So, if the feds came after a brother for hosting cards game at their home I guess he would be equally demonized.

Accept that none of that shit involves killing/torturing animal(not to mention breeding animals for violence). Humans are animals too. I Know some people try to avoid that fact.. we may be "superior" as most people say but were still animals and thats a fucked up way to get entertainment. At least the fucked up things we do to cows and chickens on farms is for food...
 
some people in this thread have crucified vick by calling him dumb. its easy to play monday morning quarterback, but answer this question. do you think vick would have done this if he knew he could rack up federal charges?
 
bromack1 said:
RICO offenses and definitions
Racketeering activity means:

*Any act or threat involving "gambling", murder, kidnapping, arson, robbery, bribery, extortion, dealing in obscene matter, or dealing in a controlled substance or listed chemical (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act), which is chargeable under State law and punishable by imprisonment for more than one year;

:hmm:

Please. You know damn well the State would be reaching by going that far just to make an "example" out of this cat.
 
Elemental said:
This is a case of a brother not tending to his business. The Kennels are his, he left that business to his cousin...........This cat had not been to that house in years....YEARS. This is a modern day lynching..........

Vick is stupid.......not to have cut people that are a phuckung liability to him. Point Blank, now everybody is dry snitching, and pointing at him, because the feds want his head.

That part in BOLD ABOVE is pure BULLSHYT!

Vick had been to that property, and it wasn't YEARS AGO!

Just face the fact..........OOKIE IS GUILTY AS HELL!
 
mozartte said:
some people in this thread have crucified vick by calling him dumb. its easy to play monday morning quarterback, but answer this question. do you think vick would have done this if he knew he could rack up federal charges?

It doesn't make ANY DIFFERENCE!

He has an AGENT and other ADVISORS ALREADY ON PAYROLL!

Only an IDIOT & DAMN FOOL would risk a $130+ Million Contract over some bullshyt!

All he had to do was ASK HIS AGENT, instead of TRUSTING HIS THUG HOMIES!

To even ask the question above MAKES YOU SOUND DUMB AS HELL!

 
mozartte said:
some people in this thread have crucified vick by calling him dumb. its easy to play monday morning quarterback, but answer this question. do you think vick would have done this if he knew he could rack up federal charges?


you act as if he's completely innocent. if he wasn't sure it was wrong or not why didn't he just make this shit public knowledge so he could've gotten support? maybe ESPN would've shown the fights on tv :hmm: I don't give a damn what rappers or athletes do because I just don't give a fuck but if you do ill shit and the Feds come knockin then don't act like you don't know about nuttin. man up and face the music!
 
Vick fights dogs and nigs want him UNDER the jail.
Bush kills people and nigs act like politics ain't so important.
R Kelly rapes and pees on little girls and nigs turn the volume up so loud they don't have to think.
 
The Black HHH said:
Vick fights dogs and nigs want him UNDER the jail.
Bush kills people and nigs act like politics ain't so important.
R Kelly rapes and pees on little girls and nigs turn the volume up so loud they don't have to think.
Didn't you get the memo? Blacks lives are less valuable than a Dog, because according to shit eating pea brained coons and crackas, dogs cannot think for themselves so it's our fault that they are fighting. Humans can think for themselves so if an innocent person gets his head blown off he should not have been robbed in the first place. Don't enlist into the military if you don't want to die. Black lives are worth less than a retarded inbred pittbull mutt. COONS AND CRACKAS
 
How much y'all wanna bet that somebody is writing a screenplay about this whole scenario as we speak? :yes:

This shits gonna be a major motion picture in 5 years, just watch...
 
Tony Soprano said:
How much y'all wanna bet that somebody is writing a screenplay about this whole scenario as we speak? :yes:

This shits gonna be a major motion picture in 5 years, just watch...

No, someone's gonna make a movie about Donaghy before they make one about Ookie.
 
All of you Mike Vick supporters aren't getting a damn penny while his defenses attorneys are laughing all the way to the fucking bank. How moronic is it for people to stick up for those who can give two shits about them, let alone even know they exist.

All these Vick supporters are sorry ass militants who don't voice their opinion until a threat occurs. Meanwhile, they are punching in their log sheet greeting whitey with "Hello". The fuck? I'm suppose to support this niggah because he is a black male? Fuck that. He is where many of us strive to be, and here he is fucking up over some dog fighting bullshit. How many of you fought for drug dealers facing state charges? They too are part of a bigger system.

The point is, people put themselves in a situation for scrutiny. As fuck up as it may be, they did it to themselves. Answer me this. If a black pedophile was facing 100 years for crimes against children while a white counterpart only got 50 years, would you really be questioning the justice system. Highly doubtful.
:hmm:
 
That Ninja dumb enough to do things that would even think about messing up what he got. He need to get whatever they gonna give him. Millions, living good, fame, respect & pussy! All that he knew, soon might be gone. We our own worst Enemy! :yes:
 
geckosticky1 said:
Ignorance in regards to your mentality is a word wasted on you. :smh:
:hmm:


really?

so...so....you're comfortable with the use of "Lynch" in regards to this Vick thing?

I'm not gonna stoop to your level and call you names or anything of that sort...so...you got me! GO YOU!

But really.....Vick...modern day lynching....this is ok for you?
 
Dr. Truth said:
Didn't you get the memo? Blacks lives are less valuable than a Dog, because according to shit eating pea brained coons and crackas, dogs cannot think for themselves so it's our fault that they are fighting. Humans can think for themselves so if an innocent person gets his head blown off he should not have been robbed in the first place. Don't enlist into the military if you don't want to die. Black lives are worth less than a retarded inbred pittbull mutt. COONS AND CRACKAS


If Vick had any sense, he would have not put himself in this position.


Second, If Vick had not put himself in this position, we would not be talking about this, and the regular Vick Bashers would be back talking about how they don't like him as a quarterback.
 
If Vick pleads out the worst he has to worry about is losing his mainstream reputation, freedom_ for a relatively short period of time, some endorsements, career and a a few million. He'll be left with multi-millions, youth, his real friends/family and quite likely another shot at playing for some team somewhere_ whether in the NFL or not. Let us remember Kobe Bryant bounced back from [allegedly] anally raping a young blonde blue eyed White girl in 'Pleasantville' Colorado!
 
Ming Fei Hong said:
If Vick pleads out the worst he has to worry about is losing his mainstream reputation, freedom_ for a relatively short period of time, some endorsements, career and a a few million. He'll be left with multi-millions, youth, his real friends/family and quite likely another shot at playing for some team somewhere_ whether in the NFL or not. Let us remember Kobe Bryant bounced back from [allegedly] anally raping a young blonde blue eyed White girl in 'Pleasantville' Colorado!
Although some would say that this situation is payback for Kobe getting off. :yes:

I don't feel sorry for Vick, but I do think that somebody way up on high in the political realm is pulling the strings with this case. Somebody wanted Mike Vick to burn for this, I don't know who but in this day & age it just doesn't add up to me.
 
Steelwill2006 said:
All of you Mike Vick supporters aren't getting a damn penny while his defenses attorneys are laughing all the way to the fucking bank. How moronic is it for people to stick up for those who can give two shits about them, let alone even know they exist.

All these Vick supporters are sorry ass militants who don't voice their opinion until a threat occurs. Meanwhile, they are punching in their log sheet greeting whitey with "Hello". The fuck? I'm suppose to support this niggah because he is a black male? Fuck that. He is where many of us strive to be, and here he is fucking up over some dog fighting bullshit. How many of you fought for drug dealers facing state charges? They too are part of a bigger system.

The point is, people put themselves in a situation for scrutiny. As fuck up as it may be, they did it to themselves. Answer me this. If a black pedophile was facing 100 years for crimes against children while a white counterpart only got 50 years, would you really be questioning the justice system. Highly doubtful.
:hmm:

I couldn't agree more with your entire statement but also on a bigger scale with the bold print. people kill me defending someone who wouldn't give a damn if the shoes were reversed! that's why I don't give a shit about athlete's, rappers or entertainers in general. they don't contribute to my pocket or to my bills so fuck'em. I hate dick ridin ass people.

I ask anyone that's defending this dumbass that if it were you, would he support you? send you money for your lawyer fees? HELL NO! so why are you swan diving on this mans balls? he put himself in this mess, let HIM deal with the outcome no matter how it falls!
 
Swole718 said:
Steelwill2006 said:
All of you Mike Vick supporters aren't getting a damn penny while his defenses attorneys are laughing all the way to the fucking bank. How moronic is it for people to stick up for those who can give two shits about them, let alone even know they exist.
I couldn't agree more with your entire statement but also on a bigger scale with the bold print. people kill me defending someone who wouldn't give a damn if the shoes were reversed! that's why I don't give a shit about athlete's, rappers or entertainers in general. they don't contribute to my pocket or to my bills so fuck'em. I hate dick ridin ass people.

I ask anyone that's defending this dumbass that if it were you, would he support you? send you money for your lawyer fees? HELL NO! so why are you swan diving on this mans balls? he put himself in this mess, let HIM deal with the outcome no matter how it falls!

This is the thinking that keeps US as a race down, the unwillingness to support another of our own kind. I don't even follow football, I was raised in atlanta, and I still live in the A.... but I support the nigga on this not because he would do it for me, but because I can relate to being charged with BULLSHIT. I can relate to being dragged through the mud over petty shit. And yes, dog fighting is petty when there are far more serious crimes being commited that AREN'T being tended to.
Like the other poster said, its a regional thing. I'm not gonna call dog fighting dumb or call Mike Vick dumb, its just his thing. Its just not my thing. Let that man do whatever the fuck he wanna do w/ his money. Let him buy 600 family sized bottles of Jergens and jack off on other niggas baby-mama's, you know why?.... 'Cuz Lindsay Lohan just turned 21 like last month, and the bitch got all kinda "HABITUAL" shit on her record. She just became legal drinking age and she done been to rehab more than once, got all kinda drunk driving shit on her, been caught w/ COCAINE and other drugs, but thats her thing!...... She ain't facing Fed charges, She ain't in JAIL right now (City, County, State, or otherwise). She prolly getting high this VERY MOMENT!!! Now this isn't meant to me a personal assault on Lindsay Lohan, just a way to display that people do things, THEIR things. But Fed charges for shit thats been around for centuries......in this country. It was around before Vick, and it'll be around after Vick.
I recall reading an AJC article posted a few weeks ago that said only a few people were found to have been convicted of dog fighting in Georgia over the past 10 years, something like 5 or 7 people...... it went on to give names and their sentence, and what time they actually served.....None of these people convicted served over 5 years!!! That says to me that the state of Georgia doesn't consider dog fighting too bad, especially in this day and age of over-sentencing.

Deuces
 
Ming Fei Hong said:
Kobe Bryant bounced back from [allegedly] anally raping a young blonde blue eyed White girl in 'Pleasantville' Colorado!

MFH,

let's put that MYTH to sleep once and for all.

a portion of his statement was redacted, and fool ass people let their imaginations run wild, like they were reading a criminal version of ad-libs.

tobe did NOT have anal sex with his accuser, nor did he request to have anal sex with his accuser.

tobe DID request to ejaculate on her face, and that was the part of his statement that was redacted.
 
Dhustla said:
This is the thinking that keeps US as a race down, the unwillingness to support another of our own kind.

WHY do cats keep talking about race??? From my point of view this ain't got shit to do with race! I rode with OJ cuz I still believe he didn't do it (he knows who did cuz he paid'em) and I was convinced that some lil white bitch got star struck blew Kobe's balls dry then told everybody she could then someone told her she could get paid, so she bumped her gums. Vicks OWN PEOPLE are dropping dimes so because I think he played a major role in this I'm not supporting black people??? Even the lawyer he's payin is sayin "take the deal nigga, cuz if you don't you fucked!" :confused: Man, miss me with that bullshit. I'm prolly the blackest cat on BGOL from NYC so once again I state

RACE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING GUILTY!!!
 
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