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Temujin said:
You are assuming a day to God is the same as a day to us. Can't be. Second you are assuming carbon dating is accurate and we have no way of knowing how accurate it is. Once we go pre-history our estimations are a guess.
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And I understand that carbon dating might not be 100% accurate
But we're not talking about a discrepancy of a few years, or even a few hundreds of years
We are talking about a BIG ass gap of millions of years difference

Where paleontologists & other scientists that say Dinosaurs were around 100 million years ago
Where geologists & other scientists that say a huge asteroid hit us 60 million years ago.....in which the crater is still there
Where astronomers, meteoriticists & other scientists who've studied fragments of meteors/comets from other planets
That say some of these fragments date back hundreds of thousands if not millions of years ago

Fam thats a HUGE discrepancy in time between what everyone else is saying compared to what religion says
And its hard to just make the excuse "oh well carbon dating might be a little bit off"

Its like going to Chernobyl to measure the radiation levels embedded in the earth & saying
"Welp this incident happened either in the 1980's or about 50 million years ago"
Wait what the hell? :hmm: You can't be that far off in the carbon dating analysis :hmm:
Because at that point, it means you're just guessing & randomly picking numbers from a hat, LOL
 
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And then you have..........SuperNovas (exploding stars)


Google search:
"What was the last supernova"
Answer:
"Kepler's supernova"


Google search:
"Kepler's supernova distance from Earth"
Answer:
"Kepler's Supernova, also known as SN 1604, is estimated to be approximately 20,000 light-years away from Earth. This means it took light 20,000 years to travel from the exploded star to our planet...The supernova was visible to the naked eye in 1604"


Google search:
"How long ago did God create the stars according to the Bible"
Answer:
"According to a literal interpretation of the Genesis creation account in the Bible, God created the stars on the fourth day of creation, which was approximately 6,000 years ago. This interpretation is based on the order of events described in Genesis 1, where light is created on day one, the sky on day two, land and plants on day three, and the sun, moon, and stars on day four."


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CurtDawg said:
Why would a day to God be that much different than a day to us?
A day is calculated by the rotation of the Earth around the Sun
Calculated by when the Sun rises & Sun sets
Its not really some random made up number
Its calculated apparently based on what God designed

In the Bible it clearly says what was created & in what order, etc, etc
So.....unless God stopped the rotation of the Earth
So that "a day" lasted millions of years instead of just hours..........bruh:hmm:
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LOL your concept of time needs some work. Time is only real based on your relationship to space. If I'm on another planet that doesn't rotate each day and revolve each year then my day is longer than your day or shorter than your day. If I am beyond space and time IE. God what is a day to me when there is no Sun. What is time when I am infinite. God didn't even make the sun until Day 4. How was he counting before the Sun was there? God can make the earth before the Sun but somehow can't stop the earth from rotating.

You are putting your own interpretation to it which is ok but leave room for the fact that the bible is not literal. A day to God meant a complete task not a rotation around the Sun. Maybe the bible story is an allegory about the process of creation. He used days because that's what's used in our concept of time.

Do you know time is relative to your speed and position. So the faster you move the slower time moves around you. So a day to God could easily be a million years or it could be one second.
 
CurtDawg said:
And I understand that carbon dating might not be 100% accurate
But we're not talking about a discrepancy of a few years, or even a few hundreds of years
We are talking about a BIG ass gap of millions of years difference

Where paleontologists & other scientists that say Dinosaurs were around 100 million years ago
Where geologists & other scientists that say a huge asteroid hit us 60 million years ago.....in which the crater is still there
Where astronomers, meteoriticists & other scientists who've studied fragments of meteors/comets from other planets
That say some of these fragments date back hundreds of thousands if not millions of years ago

Fam thats a HUGE discrepancy in time between what everyone else is saying compared to what religion says
And its hard to just make the excuse "oh well carbon dating might be a little bit off"

Its like going to Chernobyl to measure the radiation levels embedded in the earth & saying
"Welp this incident happened either in the 1980's or about 50 million years ago"
Wait what the hell? :hmm: You can't be that far off in the carbon dating analysis :hmm:
Because at that point, it means you're just guessing & randomly picking numbers from a hat, LO
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What difference does any of this make? If you want to believe the earth is 50 million years old how is that any different that believing the earth is 5 million years old. Once you go Pre-history there is no record. There is only your imagination of what could be. So chernobyl happened when people had books to write down what happened. There is corroborating evidence. If I pick up a rock off the ground and tell you it's 50 million years old. How do you corroborate that. How do you have diffinitive proof? And even if you do what fucking difference does it make. I am a human being who will live for 100 years if lucky. What happened before humans existed is only an intellectual curiosity. It only helps me if I can use it in my everyday life.

Religion is not about carbon dating. Spirituality is about your relationship to YOUR time YOUR space. It is unique to you. I would suggest dig deeper and don't look at religion as literal. These are stories written by multiple people detailing their relationship with a higher power. Their interpretation is not as important to you as YOUR interpretation. But you got to look deeper than a day is a day. A day is not a day to God.
 
Temujin said:
LOL your concept of time needs some work. Time is only real based on your relationship to space. If I'm on another planet that doesn't rotate each day and revolve each year then my day is longer than your day or shorter than your day. If I am beyond space and time IE. God what is a day to me when there is no Sun. What is time when I am infinite. God didn't even make the sun until Day 4. How was he counting before the Sun was there? God can make the earth before the Sun but somehow can't stop the earth from rotating.

You are putting your own interpretation to it which is ok but leave room for the fact that the bible is not literal. A day to God meant a complete task not a rotation around the Sun. Maybe the bible story is an allegory about the process of creation. He used days because that's what's used in our concept of time.

Do you know time is relative to your speed and position. So the faster you move the slower time moves around you. So a day to God could easily be a million years or it could be one second.
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Time "can be" relative depending on the planet that someone is on
Because things like gravity can effect the perception of time
(For example if a planet is in close proximity to a black hole)

But the Bible isn't describing "another planet" where God created Adam & Eve
Its describing this planet, planet Earth
Where planet Earth has a known force of gravity & known rotation around the Sun, etc, etc

I'm not the one putting my own interpretation on anything
Point out in the Bible where others during biblical times, have interpreted that "a day" could mean "a million years"
 
Temujin said:
.....If I pick up a rock off the ground and tell you it's 50 million years old. How do you corroborate that. How do you have diffinitive proof? And even if you do what fucking difference does it make......
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So if you pickup a rock from the ground, from Earth
And scientists are able to provide definitive proof to carbon date it, to being millions of years old
You would think "so fucking what"?
Humm.....Interesting
 
CurtDawg said:
Time "can be" relative depending on the planet that someone is on
Because things like gravity can effect the perception of time
(For example if a planet is in close proximity to a black hole)

But the Bible isn't describing "another planet" where God created Adam & Eve
Its describing this planet, planet Earth
Where planet Earth has a known force of gravity & known rotation around the Sun, etc, etc

I'm not the one putting my own interpretation on anything
Point out in the Bible where others during biblical times, have interpreted that "a day" could mean "a million years"
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How can God create the earth and be on the earth at the same time.

I look at the whole bible as an allegory and so should you. It is written as a historical tale only to present a larger point. If it was just a historical tale it would be a history book. The reason the bible is used as a basis for many relegion is because the stories have a spiritual context. When you read an allegory the point is to develop your own understanding. If you depend on someone elses understanding you could be lead astray.

A day for God is whatever he wants it to be. If you control the sun moon and stars you control time. You think God couldn't have the world go through a million years in what was a day to him. You interpret the bible to a day to mean a earth day. I do not. I look at it as counting a completion like step one step two al to step 7. There is a deeper meaning than it took God a day to make the universe.
 
CurtDawg said:
So if you pickup a rock from the ground, from Earth
And scientists are able to provide definitive proof to carbon date it, to being millions of years old
You would think "so fucking what"?
Humm.....Interesting
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Exactly. I would be like how do you know and what does it mean to me. What does the rock being a million years old mean to you. Did the rock do something?

Do you honestly think your mind can process millions of years of history and somehow learn something deeper from it. That's what learning is. If I can't learn from it it's useless information. Knowing the exact age of the universe is so dependent on how we feel time moves. Time slows down and speeds up. Time is an arbitrary measure it's not real. Like you said an earth year is different than a year on mars or jupiter. Time is a constraint in this dimension only. So I'm supposed to get something from a rock being old. Nah yo. Tell me what that Rock did or if it was part of a building. Otherwise it's a rock like any other rock only this rock they claim is old. Time is only relevant to what happened during that time. The time of a day is not as important as what happened during that day. Our time on earth is only relevant based on what we do during that time. A man can live twice as long as another man and do nothing.
 
Temujin said:
How can God create the earth and be on the earth at the same time.
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I'm not sure where you got that interpretation from.
Because I never said God was actually on the Earth, at the same time, while creating it
The point was, in the book of Genesis, it is describing creation of Adam & Eve, specifically on this planet Earth


Temujin said:
I look at the whole bible as an allegory and so should you. It is written as a historical tale only to present a larger point. If it was just a historical tale it would be a history book. The reason the bible is used as a basis for many relegion is because the stories have a spiritual context. When you read an allegory the point is to develop your own understanding. If you depend on someone elses understanding you could be lead astray.

A day for God is whatever he wants it to be. If you control the sun moon and stars you control time. You think God couldn't have the world go through a million years in what was a day to him. You interpret the bible to a day to mean a earth day. I do not. I look at it as counting a completion like step one step two al to step 7. There is a deeper meaning than it took God a day to make the universe.
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If you want to look at the whole Bible as an allegory, then that is your decision
But don't say that I should interpret it in the same exact way as you
Most religious people actually don't see it as entirely allegorical anyway
Most see it as a mixture of allegory, history, prophecy, etc, etc
But I've heard this argument one too many times
Whenever someone points out that "such & such" does not make any sense at all
The fall back reason is usually.....
"Welp its open to individual interpretation, its symbolic stories rather than literal historical accounts, etc, etc"
Okay well, since its open to each individuals interpretation, then you interpret it one way, but I'm still going to interpret it my way
 
CurtDawg said:
I'm not sure where you got that interpretation from.
Because I never said God was actually on the Earth, at the same time, while creating it
The point was, in the book of Genesis, it is describing creation of Adam & Eve, specifically on this planet Earth




If you want to look at the whole Bible as an allegory, then that is your decision
But don't say that I should interpret it in the same exact way as you
Most religious people actually don't see it as entirely allegorical anyway
Most see it as a mixture of allegory, history, prophecy, etc, etc
But I've heard this argument one too many times
Whenever someone points out that "such & such" does not make any sense at all
The fall back reason is usually.....
"Welp its open to individual interpretation, its symbolic stories rather than literal historical accounts, etc, etc"
Okay well, since its open to each individuals interpretation, then you interpret it one way, but I'm still going to interpret it my way
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Bro you started this with see the bible ain't real the earth is a million years old and the bible only accounts to a few thousand. Then you go into the story of creation and start the clock on human history to when the earth was created but you assumed that the earth was created 2-3 days before Adam was created. My point was that the days of creation may not stand for actual days and may stand for days for God which aren't quantifiable as Earth days because the Earth wasn't formed yet. That is all. If you want to take everything biblically literally even though you admit it isn't all literal ok. I don't want you to interpret my way I want you to come to your own interpretation
 
Temujin said:
Bro you started this with see the bible ain't real the earth is a million years old and the bible only accounts to a few thousand. Then you go into the story of creation and start the clock on human history to when the earth was created but you assumed that the earth was created 2-3 days before Adam was created. My point was that the days of creation may not stand for actual days and may stand for days for God which aren't quantifiable as Earth days because the Earth wasn't formed yet. That is all. If you want to take everything biblically literally even though you admit it isn't all literal ok. I don't want you to interpret my way I want you to come to your own interpretation
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I didn't start anything fam, don't gaslight
I've been posting in this thread for like months
A thread about Aliens, Megastructures, UFO's, Extraterrestrials, etc, etc
Various other things most religious people would not agree with
But you came in here, after seeing the thread title, knowing the topics that could've possibly been discussed
You quoted me first, not the other way around

I already have my own opinion of a lot of things concerning the Bible & creation
I've already heard most arguments from religious people about things in the Bible
They try to say "don't take it literally, its symbolism, allegory, a collection of stories, etc, etc"
And why???
Because they have to, or a lot of things wouldn't make sense otherwise.

Supposedly a day "can be" interpreted to possibly be a million years
Welp we have Dinosaur bones/fossils
And we have evidence of a big ass crater in the Yucatan Peninsula in Mexico, where an asteroid hit the Earth
Thats not symbolism, thats clear evidence of actual history
Sooooo...land animals & then humans were both created on day #6
And supposedly day #6 could've been interpreted to be millions of years
Sooooo...when the argument is brought up that...
Right after God made Dinosaurs on day#6, an asteroid hit the Earth & killed most (not all) of them on day#6 too ???
(possibly sometime within that million+ year timeframe)
So then what was the point of creating them in the first place ???

Then of course the rationale is usually something like...
"Welp, the actual name Dinosaur is not mentioned in the Bible b/c they weren't called that until later on by paleontologists"
Or "welp they could've been wiped out during the great flood, etc, etc"
Or "welp carbon dating is not accurate, etc, etc"
(which brings me to my previous point, that how can carbon dating be THAT far off)
Or "welp it just doesn't matter, what difference does it make, because it doesn't have to necessarily make sense"

Its always one thing or another, LOL
You have your opinions or interpretations, and I have mine
It's as simple as that
 
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Anyone remember watching that cartoon "Gumby", from back in the day?
The government was dropping hints & programming us as little kids
Tell me how wild of an episode is this, an actual real episode.....


 
Helico-pterFunk said:
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I'm curious to know how they came to that conclusion :cool:
Because if true.....a meteorite (rock from another planet) that is supposedly older than the Earth.....
Welp that just made things very interesting
Because according to "religious scripture"
The Earth was created first.....then the moon, sun, stars, planets, etc, etc
 
How does a person bend granite stone like that
Going around a curve
When history books claimed that ancient Egyptians had copper chisels & shit
Mofos fitting granite boulders together like "Tetris"
What kind of sense does that even make

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