“Greed Trumps Race”: How To Be A Successful (African) American in Silicon Valley

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Editor’s note: Dr. Paul Judge is a serial entrepreneur and investor. He is chief research officer at Barracuda Networks, co-founder and Chairman of Pindrop and Limitless Smart Shot, and previously led three companies to successful exits. Follow him on Twitter.

A few months ago Facebook’s initial public offering became the largest tech IPO in history initially valuing the company at over $100 billion. More than 70 percent of African Americans online have used Facebook or other social networks; however there were none on stage in the cast of newly minted billionaires ringing the NASDAQ bell. Many have raised the question of who is or will be the black Mark Zuckerberg? That question translates to who are the successful black technology entrepreneurs?

For the last year, there has been great debate about blacks in Silicon Valley’s technology industry. This argument was fueled by a CNN program called Blacks in America: The New Promised Land — Silicon Valley.

The program showed Michael Arrington, the founder of TechCrunch and an investor, stating that he did not know any black entrepreneurs. In response, some people called him a racist, others said Silicon Valley is racist, and others concluded there are no qualified black technology entrepreneurs.

I sat on the sidelines until now reading article after article written on this topic, many of which were fueled by anger or lacking relevant insight.

I am taking a break from building companies to comment. I am a successful technology entrepreneur. And you might have noticed that I am black. I never previously broadcast that I’m a “black entrepreneur,” as my focus has been on success and I do not find my skin color relevant to the source code I write or to the purchase orders I receive.

It is, however, difficult to sit by and watch misinformed views on the intersection of two things that I know well: 1. building technology companies and 2. being black. Misinformation and improper conclusions will only make the situation worse, which is counter to the goals of people on both sides of the debate.

Here I share three opinions on the ongoing debate about blacks in Silicon Valley and then three suggestions on how to improve the state of blacks in Silicon Valley.

THREE OPINIONS ON THE DEBATE ABOUT BLACKS IN SILICON VALLEY

1. Underrepresentation does not equal racism

One uninformed comment about black entrepreneurs started the debate, which grew into a discussion of black underrepresentation in Silicon Valley.

I’m going to state what should be obvious. Underrepresentation does not equal racism. Nor does underrepresentation equal lack of ability. A group can be underrepresented for various reasons, including lack of interest, lack of knowledge, and lack of access.[ii]

If underrepresentation equals racism then the NBA is racist against whites because only 17 percent of the NBA players are white even though whites make up over 70 percent of the U.S. population.[iii] Even with this underrepresentation, it is understood that the NBA is not racist against white men.

The white underrepresentation also does not mean lack of ability. There are many examples such as Steve Nash, Dirk Nowitzki, Larry Bird and Jerry West to quickly dispel that notion. My point is that there are many contributing factors to underrepresentation instead of blaming racism as the broad explanation. This is a critical point because those other factors can be affected by individuals interested in impacting the situation.

2. CNN’s “Blacks in Silicon Valley” was not representative of blacks in Silicon Valley

I appreciate Soledad O’Brien and CNN making the effort to highlight positive images of blacks in America. But, they missed half the story. CNN focused on individuals trying to build companies, not black individuals that have built companies and are living the Silicon Valley dream.

Thus viewers concluded there are no successful blacks in technology and that the TV show’s entrepreneurs were the first blacks to try to build tech companies. Wrong.

That is like doing a show on blacks in the comedy business by visiting a random local amateur night. Certainly you will find talented hardworking people, but you will miss the entire spectrum of black comedians that have been successful over the years and continue to be the leaders in their field such as Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, and Whoopi Goldberg.

I applaud and support the goals of NewME Accelerator but the TV show was an incomplete story. The actual story of African Americans in Silicon Valley starts with pioneers like Ken Coleman and Roy Clay. It includes executives such as John Thompson, CEO of Virtual Instruments and ex-CEO of Symantec; David Drummond, chief legal officer of Google; and Shellye Aarchambeau, CEO of MetricStream. It also includes African Americans at successful startups such as Tristan Walker, formerly director of business development at Foursquare and now entrepreneur-in-residence at Andreessen Horowitz, and Michael Seibel, founder and CEO of Socialcam.com. It involves African American venture capital investors such as Charles Hudson of SoftTech VC and Lisa Lambert of Intel Capital.

3. Greed trumps race

During the “Blacks in America” debate, people screamed “racist” as if they were screaming “thief,” but the reality is that being a racist is not illegal. I appreciate civil rights leaders who fought for the opportunities minorities and women now have. My point is that in many cases people spend too much energy complaining that the playing field is not completely level instead of spending that energy playing on the field and leveraging the opportunities. Oprah Winfrey offered guidance when she said, “Excellence is the best deterrent to racism or sexism.”

For example, instead of piling onto the attacks on Arrington, I opted instead to introduce him to a black entrepreneur: me. I wrote a friendly note and introduced a hot startup that I would like to pitch to his investment group. That did not result in a meeting but most investors are quite busy so rather than blame that on race and lose focus, we pressed on and raised an impressive round.

“Greed trumps race,” wisely remarked Ben Horowitz recently during a panel on diversity in Silicon Valley hosted by his firm, Andreessen Horowitz. Not only did I borrow it for the title of this article, but I have also witnessed this phenomenon over the years. Kanye West put it another way, “Heard Yeezy was racist, well, I guess that’s on one basis, I only like green faces.”

THREE THOUGHTS ON IMPROVING THE STATE OF BLACKS IN SILICON VALLEY

1. Risk equals reward

In tech businesses, high risk is balanced by high potential. If your idea attracts a small niche and they pay little for it, it will not scale. Do not focus on how your idea can make a million dollars; instead focus on how it can make a million dollars a day.

Choose a problem that is sufficiently big but that you can actually tackle. One mistake that I see people make is choosing a problem that is so big that they have no reasonable path to making it happen. Break a big idea into stages. Mark Zuckerberg started Facebook with a simple social fun website, turned it into a destination for Harvard — then other schools — and then a global social network.

In the Valley it is well understood that ideas are worthless and that execution is what builds value. It is what separates the haves from the have-nots. Steve Jobs said, “I’m convinced that about half of what separates the successful entrepreneurs from the non-successful ones is pure perseverance.” I had to take a position well below my capabilities to get in the door as one of the first 10 employees at CipherTrust. Within a year I designed the flagship product and was responsible for the engineering, product management and R&D divisions. Then I became chief technology officer and continued to help lead our company to a successful $270 million acquisition.

2. Increase the pipeline

While speaking to a second grade class at a predominantly black elementary school, I asked students what they wanted to be as adults. They said football player, basketball player, rapper, and music producer. Only one kid said anything in sciences, stating that he wants to make video games.

The reasoning behind such skewed ambitions begins at home. That is where kids consume images of fame and fast money and see adults recite rap lyrics and fathers wearing jerseys bearing other men’s names. Many blacks can name the last three platinum rap albums and basketball’s “Big Three,” but not three black scientists. And it’s not just about money because more times than not the three black scientists have a higher net worth than the three rappers or athletes. In extreme cases, the amount of wealth created by just one founder of one technology company can surpass the salary of an entire sports league. For example, Facebook’s Zuckerberg is worth about $12 billion from the company that he started in 2004. This means that he’s made about the same as the total salary of every NBA player on every team for every year from 2004 to 2012.

To follow in the footsteps of Silicon Valley greats requires a serious focus on the sciences. Most of the greats in Silicon Valley were technologists such as Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Larry Page, Sergey Brin, Andy Grove, and Jeff Bezos. This does not just happen by putting on a suit and showing up at a VC office. This happens after years of study either independently or in school. There are no shortcuts. It is true that this is a high-growth high-risk business and success can happen relatively quickly, but it does not happen without great effort.

Blacks comprise 13.6 percent of the U.S. population, but only earn 9.8 percent of bachelor degrees in computer science (CS), 4.7 percent of CS masters degrees and 1.8 percent of CS doctoral degrees.[iv] We must increase black interest in, and pursuit of, CS and other science, technology, engineering and math (STEM) educations. Otherwise the talk about boosting black representation in high tech is pointless. As Peter Drucker once said, “The best way to predict the future is to create it.”

3. Silicon Valley is about creating something from nothing

Blacks are a creative people, and writing software is an art. Its creation is a near-pure translation of thought into value. Raw materials, land or money, which were historically difficult for African Americans to acquire, are not needed to write software. Open source and software-as-a-service create an environment that allows even more efficient creation of products and companies.

The CNN program overstressed acquiring funding instead of focusing on what really matters: building product, gaining traction and achieving revenue. Venture capital and angel investment is a means to an end, not the final destination. From there you have to continue to build significant value in order to deliver impressive returns to your investors and other shareholders.

Information technology is polarizing the workforce into high-skill, high-wage and low-skill, low-wage sectors, and fuels the creation of wealth unlike anything that the world has seen in decades. The fastest-growing young firms (3-5 years old) account for less than 1 percent of all companies but generate 10 percent of new jobs annually.[v] Venture-backed companies annually generate revenue equal to 21 percent of the U.S. GDP.[vi]

The software business allows people to start with nothing yet finish with everything. There are hundreds of examples of this. One study showed that immigrants founded 25 percent of U.S. venture-backed public companies even though they only represent 8.7 percent of the U.S. population.[vii] The background image on my phone is a photo of a bank advertisement that says “two-thirds of the world’s billionaires made their fortunes from scratch.”

I beseech you to make answers, not excuses. Make product. Make customers. Make revenue. Make value. Those are way more fun to make than excuses. Let’s get to work.

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Aaron Smith. Technology Trends Among People of Color. Pew Internet. September 17, 2010.
[ii] Overrepresentation by other groups can skew the results. Lastly, blacks are overrepresented in other areas so mathematically we cannot be equally represented in all areas unless we change some focus. See “Increase the Pipeline” section.
[iii] Richard Lapchick et al. The 2011 Racial and Gender Report Card: National Basketball Association. June 16, 2011.
[iv] Author’s analysis of Integrated Postsecondary Education Data System (IPEDS) data from National Science Foundation’s WebCASPAR database system.
[v] Dane Stangler. High-Growth Firms and the Future of the American Economy. Kauffman Foundation. March 2010.
[vi] Venture Impact: The Economic Importance of Venture Capital-Backed Companies to the U.S. Economy. National Venture Capital Association. 2011.
[vii] Stuart Anderson and Michaela Platzer. American Made: The Impact of Immigrant Entrepreneurs and Professionals on U.S. Competitiveness. 2005.


http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/04/gr...uccessful-african-american-in-silicon-valley/
 
Met a bunch of people he named in this article.

I'll probably try to get a meeting with him and bounce some ideas off of him.


Great drop

I have been pushing people online and offline in this direction.

The bar is low and the potential impact is great


:yes::yes::yes:
 
:yes:

glad to see guys like dr. judge making his presence known...kids need to see faces that look like them (especially our boys) doing big things in the new economy
 
Good read.
Need to start redirecting kids at a young age to S.T.E.M fields.
Tha last time you will ever hear a young Black child say they want to become a Doctor or show interest in sciences is early in elementary school.
After that their interests usually go into sports or trying to be a rapper.
 
Good read.
Need to start redirecting kids at a young age to S.T.E.M fields.
Tha last time you will ever hear a young Black child say they want to become a Doctor or show interest in sciences is early in elementary school.
After that their interests usually go into sports or trying to be a rapper.

:yes:
 
This guy just seems like he is completely detached from what is happening in the United States today.

If he were saying this in 2000 or 2005, then okay.

But in 2012? After the financial collapse? This strikes me as hopium.

The NUMBER 1 FACTOR in anyone's success is who you know.

I don't care how hard you work, if no one knows you, it won't matter. The ones to know are the ones with the credit lines and the cash. Since black people don't have that, they will always be begging (until they pool their own cash and create their OWN credit).
 
Met a bunch of people he named in this article.

I'll probably try to get a meeting with him and bounce some ideas off of him.


Great drop

I have been pushing people online and offline in this direction.

The bar is low and the potential impact is great


:yes::yes::yes:

I like this.

Dope post! Subs for future occasional inspiration.
 
This guy just seems like he is completely detached from what is happening in the United States today.

If he were saying this in 2000 or 2005, then okay.

But in 2012? After the financial collapse? This strikes me as hopium.

The NUMBER 1 FACTOR in anyone's success is who you know.

I have to disagree with you on this. :cool:
It all starts with effort. !!!!
 
This guy just seems like he is completely detached from what is happening in the United States today.

If he were saying this in 2000 or 2005, then okay.

But in 2012? After the financial collapse? This strikes me as hopium.

The NUMBER 1 FACTOR in anyone's success is who you know.

I don't care how hard you work, if no one knows you, it won't matter. The ones to know are the ones with the credit lines and the cash. Since black people don't have that, they will always be begging (until they pool their own cash and create their OWN credit).


i see the point u are trying to make but in competitive fields... u almost have to pretend racism doesnt exist and just go harder.

u have to not give a shit that more is expected out of u and just go. that's what he's getting at.

he's saying its probably gonna be more effective to get more talented blacks interested in, working in and founding companies in the stem fields than it is to depend on the current gatekeepers to open a wider door.

and it helps but u dont HAVE to know anybody. if u are executing on an amazing idea people will trip over themselves to get to know u. plus nothing is stopping ur black ass from putting on 1 of them got damn coats, getting out and doing some networking.

the key takeaway is stop fuckin crying and get to work. play ur part and then when u get on give back.
 
I have to disagree with you on this. :cool:
It all starts with effort. !!!!

But, don't you see... that's what so many rich whites are always talking about.

I worked hard...
No one helped me...
Personal responsibility...
Rewarding hard work...
Accountability...

The white male does not want any mention of all the people who helped them along the way. So, they tell black people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, as if whites got theirs through hard work (see slavery and genocide).

Look at the bailout banks. Those idiots would say they worked hard when all they did was pad their own pockets. All those hard workers, who did the right thing and followed the rules, got screwed over to protect these idiots through bailouts, bonuses, and tax breaks.

How did hard work and effort pay off there?

It's not about how smart you are...
or how hard you work...
or how much benefit you provide...
or the sacrifices you make...

all that matters is who you know. Just ask Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian, Jeffrey Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, and Donald Trump.

I learned this lesson the hard way.
 
i see the point u are trying to make but in competitive fields... u almost have to pretend racism doesnt exist and just go harder.

u have to not give a shit that more is expected out of u and just go. that's what he's getting at.

he's saying its probably gonna be more effective to get more talented blacks interested in, working in and founding companies in the stem fields than it is to depend on the current gatekeepers to open a wider door.

and it helps but u dont HAVE to know anybody. if u are executing on an amazing idea people will trip over themselves to get to know u. plus nothing is stopping ur black ass from putting on 1 of them got damn coats, getting out and doing some networking.

the key takeaway is stop fuckin crying and get to work. play ur part and then when u get on give back.

This is what I am talking... it's who you know.

I could have the greatest merchandise ever. It could be a wonder and benefit to all who have it. It could be the finest material and superior workmanship. It could satisfy every requirement that a customer would have.

But, because it is not blessed by Obama, some celebrity, or whoever you worship, then all that HARD WORK is meaningless!

However, if I offered total shit, cheap Chinese-made crap that is made in sweatshops or on poorly constructed assembly lines, but Obama blesses it, or Jordan, or some celebrity, magically everyone wants it. It doesn't matter if it's garbage, if it won't last, if it doesn't do the very thing for which it was designed, all that matters is that it has been endorsed.

The idea guys get slaves to do the HARD WORK, while they take all the credit.

That is the way the world works.
 
cruise, u are trying to bait me into going in on those ratchet jackets and i refuse to swerve this thread into that lane.:hmm:

You brought it up. I did not make you do it. You did it of your own free will.

And, you keep making the point that IT IS NOT ABOUT HARD WORK!

HARD WORK is the lie they tell to the ignorant to keep them in the mines, on the plantation, and in the fields.

It has never been about HARD WORK.

The whole goal of the successful is to AVOID HARD WORK as much as possible.
 
You brought it up. I did not make you do it. You did it of your own free will.

And, you keep making the point that IT IS NOT ABOUT HARD WORK!

HARD WORK is the lie they tell to the ignorant to keep them in the mines, on the plantation, and in the fields.

It has never been about HARD WORK.

The whole goal of the successful is to AVOID HARD WORK as much as possible.

no fam... ur biz is prolly suffering cuz ur coats look like this:

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and while u complain that white people dont have to put in hard work, there are brothas, sistas, mexicans, koreans bustin their ass not giving a fuck what kinda work some white people put in.

btw, not every white person is well connected and there are plenty of black people who are. ur merchandise is ur problem bro.
 
But, don't you see... that's what so many rich whites are always talking about.

I worked hard...
No one helped me...
Personal responsibility...
Rewarding hard work...
Accountability...

The white male does not want any mention of all the people who helped them along the way. So, they tell black people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, as if whites got theirs through hard work (see slavery and genocide).

Look at the bailout banks. Those idiots would say they worked hard when all they did was pad their own pockets. All those hard workers, who did the right thing and followed the rules, got screwed over to protect these idiots through bailouts, bonuses, and tax breaks.

How did hard work and effort pay off there?

It's not about how smart you are...
or how hard you work...
or how much benefit you provide...
or the sacrifices you make...

all that matters is who you know. Just ask Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian, Jeffrey Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, and Donald Trump.

I learned this lesson the hard way.

Of-course, it CAN be easier if you know people, but still most OF THE WORK/drive/Vision has to come from yourself. Nobody's going to hand it to you.

My point is when you say I can do it ...BUT I need......Bill Gates etc to hold your hand then you're limiting yourself IMO.

Also think about the sacrifices that LarryPage, Bill Gates etc had to make in the beginning of their careers to come where they are today.
 
But, don't you see... that's what so many rich whites are always talking about.

I worked hard...
No one helped me...
Personal responsibility...
Rewarding hard work...
Accountability...

The white male does not want any mention of all the people who helped them along the way. So, they tell black people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, as if whites got theirs through hard work (see slavery and genocide).

Look at the bailout banks. Those idiots would say they worked hard when all they did was pad their own pockets. All those hard workers, who did the right thing and followed the rules, got screwed over to protect these idiots through bailouts, bonuses, and tax breaks.

How did hard work and effort pay off there?

It's not about how smart you are...
or how hard you work...
or how much benefit you provide...
or the sacrifices you make...

all that matters is who you know. Just ask Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian, Jeffrey Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, and Donald Trump.

I learned this lesson the hard way.

I whole heartedly reject this line of thinking. Control your own destiny.
 
Of-course, it CAN be easier if you know people, but still most OF THE WORK/drive/Vision has to come from yourself. Nobody's going to hand it to you.

My point is when you say I can do it ...BUT I need......Bill Gates etc to hold your hand then you're limiting yourself IMO.

Also think about the sacrifices that LarryPage, Bill Gates etc had to make in the beginning of their careers to come where they are today.

I would say those guys made hardly any sacrifices as they came from well off families. They did put in a lot of work, which eventually paid off, but here's the thing, software development has a low cost of entry but it isn't free and it takes a lot of time.

VC's rarely give money out for ideas only, and especially not to poor inner city blacks. So you would need a really impressive demo just to get attention.

If you don't have someone funding you, or fam that can look out for you, then you are going to need to use those skills to make money to take care of yourself. That only allows you to build something on the side, which may be possible, but would be damn hard.

So yeah, people like Zuck, Page, and Gates may have put in a lot of work that paid off, but with out a support system to fall back on none of the companies that they are responsible for would exist.

What we need to do is instill the ideas of creating and business into our kids early so by the time they get to high school they can begin working on there own thing before they are burdened with responsibility.
 
I would say those guys made hardly any sacrifices as they came from well off families. They did put in a lot of work, which eventually paid off, but here's the thing, software development has a low cost of entry but it isn't free and it takes a lot of time.

VC's rarely give money out for ideas only, and especially not to poor inner city blacks. So you would need a really impressive demo just to get attention.

If you don't have someone funding you, or fam that can look out for you, then you are going to need to use those skills to make money to take care of yourself. That only allows you to build something on the side, which may be possible, but would be damn hard.

So yeah, people like Zuck, Page, and Gates may have put in a lot of work that paid off, but with out a support system to fall back on none of the companies that they are responsible for would exist.

What we need to do is instill the ideas of creating and business into our kids early so by the time they get to high school they can begin working on there own thing before they are burdened with responsibility.
"If you really want to do something, you’ll find a way. If you don’t, you’ll find an excuse." -Internet quote
 
no fam... ur biz is prolly suffering cuz ur coats look like this:

and while u complain that white people dont have to put in hard work, there are brothas, sistas, mexicans, koreans bustin their ass not giving a fuck what kinda work some white people put in.

btw, not every white person is well connected and there are plenty of black people who are. ur merchandise is ur problem bro.

I never said business was suffering, so not sure why you are fixated on that.

But, it shows that you do not care about any facts, evidence, results, hard work, ability, or bottom line.

In your mind, you have decided you are right and that is all there is to it... HARD WORK be DAMNED!

And that is my point!

People are emotional and so are you. Feelings like respect, belonging, fun, pride, fear and greed are what matter.

So, you could be the best worker, the most knowledgeable, the most capable, the fastest, the most efficient and still people will buy from the guy they like, or who makes them laugh, or they knew in school.

HARD WORK don't mean shit! Relationships matter most! WHO YOU KNOW!

If you had your own business, I wouldn't have to explain this to you.
 
I never said business was suffering, so not sure why you are fixated on that.

But, it shows that you do not care about any facts, evidence, results, hard work, ability, or bottom line.

In your mind, you have decided you are right and that is all there is to it... HARD WORK be DAMNED!

And that is my point!

People are emotional and so are you. Feelings like respect, belonging, fun, pride, fear and greed are what matter.

So, you could be the best worker, the most knowledgeable, the most capable, the fastest, the most efficient and still people will buy from the guy they like, or who makes them laugh, or they knew in school.

HARD WORK don't mean shit! Relationships matter most! WHO YOU KNOW!

If you had your own business, I wouldn't have to explain this to you.

didnt mean to touch a nerve.

bottom line - stop crying about how the white man has it easier than u. nbody cares including other black people. go get urs.

if u think its only about connections, go get some. i dont know how many people out there are checking for wolfskin cloaks in 2012 tho.
 
"If you really want to do something, you’ll find a way. If you don’t, you’ll find an excuse." -Internet quote

If you aren't taking into account social economics you are making an excuse.

People are throwing around big names in tech like they grew up in the projects. These people grew up upper middle class, at least, and went to schools like Harvard, Stanford, and Princeton. I have to agree with Cruise, founders of the most successful companies had a head start and a support network that most blacks will not have.

Also, 75% of all start-ups fail, and only 20-30% of the start-ups that succeed are considered big winners. The odds are already against you, then throw being black on top of that :smh: The likely hood of you getting rich/wealthy is very slim.

Now, I am not saying that blacks can't have successful technology companies, but it's not easy as some people would make it seem.

There is also the question of what is deemed a success. I know when I mention to people that I am working on this idea or that project they always seem to think I am doing it because I want millions of dollars, and that I should be chasing down VCs. However, the reality for me is I just want to make enough money to support my self without having to work for someone else.
 
If you aren't taking into account social economics you are making an excuse.

People are throwing around big names in tech like they grew up in the projects. These people grew up upper middle class, at least, and went to schools like Harvard, Stanford, and Princeton. I have to agree with Cruise, founders of the most successful companies had a head start and a support network that most blacks will not have.

Also, 75% of all start-ups fail, and only 20-30% of the start-ups that succeed are considered big winners. The odds are already against you, then throw being black on top of that :smh: The likely hood of you getting rich/wealthy is very slim.

Now, I am not saying that blacks can't have successful technology companies, but it's not easy as some people would make it seem.

There is also the question of what is deemed a success. I know when I mention to people that I am working on this idea or that project they always seem to think I am doing it because I want millions of dollars, and that I should be chasing down VCs. However, the reality for me is I just want to make enough money to support my self without having to work for someone else.

I think you answered your own question fam.

Success doesn't have to be defined as the startup that lands the huge round of funding making techcrunch front page. That's nice as hell but there are some other levels as well...

Making legal money on your own terms and earning as much or more than you were slaving for someone else can be seen as success.

Creating jobs and financial stability for yourself and others can be seen as success.

Shit working on a side project that covers your bills each month so that your 9-5 work checks can go into the savings account is a level of success. All in how you define it like you said.

The attitude that Cruise has is weak imo. That's the typical mentality that has cats giving up before they even get started.
 
didnt mean to touch a nerve.

bottom line - stop crying about how the white man has it easier than u. nbody cares including other black people. go get urs.

if u think its only about connections, go get some. i dont know how many people out there are checking for wolfskin cloaks in 2012 tho.

I think you are the one that has no nerve.

At least I am doing it, because I know what it takes.

You are the one crying about MY business. Why not get one of your own?

It seems you do not know the first thing about running your own business so all you can do is be a critic.

This garbage about HARD WORK tells me you would never survive because you don't know the basics.

Golf clubs, social organizations, fraternities, lodges, guilds, private clubs are all examples of people building relationships so they don't have to do the hard work.

But, you just keep on believing those fairy tales that HARD WORK is what it takes to be successful in business.
 
I think you are the one that has no nerve.

At least I am doing it, because I know what it takes.

You are the one crying about MY business. Why not get one of your own?

It seems you do not know the first thing about being a success on your own.

This garbage about HARD WORK tells me you would never survive because you don't know the basics.

Golf clubs, social organizations, fraternities, lodges, guilds, private clubs are all examples of people building relationships so they don't have to do the hard work.

But, you just keep on believing those fairy tales that all it takes is HARD WORK.

fam i been working for myself for 10+ years. i'm a black man operating in america. i dont have a problem working hard as long as im also working smart.

i work my ass off...and leverage my relationships in the city i live in... and i dont plan on letting up off the gas on either front any time soon.

u have this big dream of not having to work hard cuz in ur mind thats the white (right) way to do it. in reality, there are blacks and whites, hispanics and asians out here who are more connected, have more opportunities, more $$$ and still outworking u and me both. while u dream about the gold course, that dude is grinding. truth hurts dont it. just admit that u dont wanna put the work in. its not a crime.
 
Cruise is a joke.

I told him I knew a black billionaire from DC, and he was hell-bent on not believing it.

People are making money in so many different ways out here that's it's crazy. Once you are 'in the know', it's almost laughably easy how quick someone can become rich in this country, especially when you consider so many people feel it's an impossibility for them.

Of course, I'm not going to tell you that any ol' Joe Schmoe will become wealthy even if they are 'in the know'. Some people just don't have it in 'em. A hell of a lot of grindin' is usually involved. More patience and persistence than most humans can ever muster.

Some people are just built to not give a fuck about obstacles and doubts, but that is clearly not most people.

Cruise doesn't even realize he is the only one standing in his way.
 
If you aren't taking into account social economics you are making an excuse.

People are throwing around big names in tech like they grew up in the projects. These people grew up upper middle class, at least, and went to schools like Harvard, Stanford, and Princeton. I have to agree with Cruise, founders of the most successful companies had a head start and a support network that most blacks will not have.

Also, 75% of all start-ups fail, and only 20-30% of the start-ups that succeed are considered big winners. The odds are already against you, then throw being black on top of that :smh: The likely hood of you getting rich/wealthy is very slim.

Now, I am not saying that blacks can't have successful technology companies, but it's not easy as some people would make it seem.

There is also the question of what is deemed a success. I know when I mention to people that I am working on this idea or that project they always seem to think I am doing it because I want millions of dollars, and that I should be chasing down VCs. However, the reality for me is I just want to make enough money to support my self without having to work for someone else.

When you can go full retard into a project... and not have to worry about how the bills are going to be paid... it helps...

Read steve jobs book on his life and see how having financially stable parents.. not rotten rich helps...

when he didn't like something the money was there for him to do other things

Also... he ended up growing up in tech world capital... and meeting people the average person never will

oh ... he also had world class ambition and was smart ... so it's all connected


would steve jobs be steve if he grew up in the projects... same brains and ambition ,but no money.. and didn't live in a tech environment from a young age ?


Many people don't know this but warren buffet got a 100k loan from a family member to invest look it up... wonder how much that would be today

so yes he's still one of the best investors of all time... but he needed money to invest no ?
 
fam i been working for myself for 10+ years. i'm a black man operating in america. i dont have a problem working hard as long as im also working smart.

i work my ass off...and leverage my relationships in the city i live in... and i dont plan on letting up off the gas on either front any time soon.

u have this big dream of not having to work hard cuz in ur mind thats the white (right) way to do it. in reality, there are blacks and whites, hispanics and asians out here who are more connected, have more opportunities, more $$$ and still outworking u and me both. while u dream about the gold course, that dude is grinding. truth hurts dont it. just admit that u dont wanna put the work in. its not a crime.

I can tell you don't know what business is because you act like you know-it-all.

My businesses go back to the 1980s, and I know how to survive good AND bad times. You think just because times are good now, they will always be good. That is why you are so arrogant. So busy pissing on another man's business instead of handling your own. I can tell you are just a pretender.

That is why you think HARD WORK is all that it takes. Well, dummy, you can work your ass off and still fail, but relationships will carry you through.

That is my free advice for the day.

I told him I knew a black billionaire from DC, and he was hell-bent on not believing it.

You do not accumulate millions of hours of manpower in just a few decades unless you are allowed to do so.

If a black man has a billion dollars in the United States, it is because he is allowed to have it.

And, I don't believe any black person (not Oprah nor Tyler Perry) has 1 billion dollars that they can use however they wish.

As one multi-millionaire told me (very established in Detroit, remember Don Barden), I don't know any rich black man in the United States who is not a front for some white boy.

You know the right people and anybody can be "rich" in this country.

The only HARD WORK is finding the right person.
 
I think you answered your own question fam.

Success doesn't have to be defined as the startup that lands the huge round of funding making techcrunch front page. That's nice as hell but there are some other levels as well...

Making legal money on your own terms and earning as much or more than you were slaving for someone else can be seen as success.

Creating jobs and financial stability for yourself and others can be seen as success.

Shit working on a side project that covers your bills each month so that your 9-5 work checks can go into the savings account is a level of success. All in how you define it like you said.

The attitude that Cruise has is weak imo. That's the typical mentality that has cats giving up before they even get started.

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