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[Dannyblueyes]

So it sounds cheaper there than here.. at most you said 1600 for 2 bedroom.. some people are paying $200 to over a thousand more just for 1 bedroom.. so all you got to do is compare how much money they save from housing per month than times it by 12 and you will see they literally save several thousands per yr.. that right there is just one reason why they might financially be more stable compared to somebody making the same amount in the us. Like the famous words go it’s not how much you make it’s how much you save

Dude, you're comparing the rent of New York City to a town that's roughly an hour away from a Canadian city less than 1/10 the size of yours. You might as well be comparing apples to carrots.

Also if he actually lived in the city he would pay at least twice what he's paying now.

On top of that, gas is at least $6 a gallon. A $30,000 car will go for at least $40,000 even when you account for the exchange. Consumer goods like clothes, computers, TVs, etc cost anywhere from 25% to 100% more than what they do in the United States. Alcohol is WAY more expensive. I used to pay $30 for a fifth of Smirnoff vodka. A six pack of Molson's went for about $12. And that was in 2008.

If you want get an idea of what things really cost there go to www.walmart.ca and compare those prices to the American ones.

Things are so bad that when we were kids my folks would drive me and my sister across the border to buy our school clothes in Washington. We would drive back wearing three shirts two jackets and four pairs of pants and tell border patrol we just went out for lunch. Hoping to God that we ripped all the tags off the clothes just in case they searched the car.

It wasn't just us, everyone in our neighborhood did that because everything costs way too damn much at a Canadian store.

Yet somehow, even with all those advantages and a much higher paycheck, Americans are still broke.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Dude, you're comparing the rent of New York City to a town that's roughly an hour away from a Canadian city less than 1/10 the size of yours. You might as well be comparing apples to carrots.

Also if he actually lived in the city he would pay at least twice what he's paying now.

On top of that, gas is at least $6 a gallon. A $30,000 car will go for at least $40,000 even when you account for the exchange. Consumer goods like clothes, computers, TVs, etc cost anywhere from 25% to 100% more than what they do in the United States. Alcohol is WAY more expensive. I used to pay $30 for a fifth of Smirnoff vodka. A six pack of Molson's went for about $12. And that was in 2008.

If you want get an idea of what things really cost there go to www.walmart.ca and compare those prices to the American ones.

Things are so bad that when we were kids my folks would drive me and my sister across the border to buy our school clothes in Washington. We would drive back wearing three shirts two jackets and four pairs of pants and tell border patrol we just went out for lunch. Hoping to God that we ripped all the tags off the clothes just in case they searched the car.

It wasn't just us, everyone in our neighborhood did that because everything costs way too damn much at a Canadian store.

Yet somehow, even with all those advantages and a much higher paycheck, Americans are still broke.

It’s not just nyc where rent is that high. Lot of places are jumping in price. I asked you a simple question you gave me an answer and now you mad at the truth. You asked why do Canadians do better with the same income. I asked you about housing and it was clear as day why Canadian would have more money just off the difference in mortgage/ rent.. you the 1 that tried to compare the two and when someone showed you the obvious difference you got offensive

 

[Dannyblueyes]

It’s not just nyc where rent is that high. Lot of places are jumping in price. I asked you a simple question you gave me an answer and now you mad at the truth. You asked why do Canadians do better with the same income. I asked you about housing and it was clear as day why Canadian would have more money just off the difference in mortgage/ rent.. you the 1 that tried to compare the two and when someone showed you the obvious difference you got offensive

More like I gave you an answer and you assumed it applied to the entire country. You further assumed that because the two people I mentioned pay less for their housing than "lots of places" in America that it had to be the reason Canadians can get by with 1/3 less income.

When I explained that people who actually live in Vancouver pay a rent comparable to San Francisco, one of the most expensive cities in the world, you completely ignored me because it went contrary to your "clear as day" assumption.

Now you're mad that somebody who lived more than half their life in Canada and nearly two decades in the United States called you out

 

[tallblacknyc]

More like I gave you an answer and you assumed it applied to the entire country. You further assumed that because the two people I mentioned pay less for their housing than "lots of places" in America that it had to be the reason Canadians can get by with 1/3 less income.

When I explained that people who actually live in Vancouver pay a rent comparable to San Francisco, one of the most expensive cities in the world, you completely ignored me because it went contrary to your "clear as day" assumption.

Now you're mad that somebody who lived more than half their life in Canada and nearly two decades in the United States called you out

This is your reply

Depends on where you live, just like it does here.

I went back to visit a friend who just rented a two bedroom apartment in the suburbs. It's about an hour drive from Vancouver and a 30 minute bus ride from the nearest train station. He's paying $1,300 a month with a hookup. Without it he'd be paying $1,600.

One of my daughters rents a studio apartment in penticton. A small, remote, city of about 35,000 people. She's paying $800 a month.

Within Vancouver the rents are comparable to San Francisco.


Most of your post was talking about rents between the 800-1600 mark.. you pointed out 1 area in canada that was expensive like San Fran.. you didn’t mention that most of canada is paying Vancouver prices.. I clearly asked you what was rent/ mortgage prices and you replied with mostly talking about 1600 rent and 800.. notice the Vancouver comment had 1 line compared to several lines.. so if canada is more expensive as far as housing goes why didn’t you mostly talked about it? .. like I said I’m using your replies as proof of what people would comprehend from the info you provided. Once again you brought up canada in a discussion about American wages. No one cared or brought them up but you

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

Reaganomics.

Reaganomics.

None of his Economic Policies have been reversed.

Look it up if you don’t believe me.

I've been watching this radio host name Thom Hartman on youtube,he pretty much explain,how Reagan pretty much destroyed the middle class and sided with corporations.
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[gene cisco]

Dude, you're comparing the rent of New York City to a town that's roughly an hour away from a Canadian city less than 1/10 the size of yours. You might as well be comparing apples to carrots.

Also if he actually lived in the city he would pay at least twice what he's paying now.

On top of that, gas is at least $6 a gallon. A $30,000 car will go for at least $40,000 even when you account for the exchange. Consumer goods like clothes, computers, TVs, etc cost anywhere from 25% to 100% more than what they do in the United States. Alcohol is WAY more expensive. I used to pay $30 for a fifth of Smirnoff vodka. A six pack of Molson's went for about $12. And that was in 2008.

If you want get an idea of what things really cost there go to www.walmart.ca and compare those prices to the American ones.

Things are so bad that when we were kids my folks would drive me and my sister across the border to buy our school clothes in Washington. We would drive back wearing three shirts two jackets and four pairs of pants and tell border patrol we just went out for lunch. Hoping to God that we ripped all the tags off the clothes just in case they searched the car.

It wasn't just us, everyone in our neighborhood did that because everything costs way too damn much at a Canadian store.

Yet somehow, even with all those advantages and a much higher paycheck, Americans are still broke.

Man, Americans tend to be fucking idiots. They tend to be reckless as hell with money. Everyone from dope boys to the 'educated' consume, comsume, and consume.

Think about it this way. Back when we were hustling in the 90s, $1000 a week is easy work for anyone who had access to D. I'm talking money that basically takes no time to make. All day is basically free time. But cats went through it like water and most ended up broke.

I'm in Ohio and cost-of-living ain't bad. But what do people do? Get a raise, buy the house they HAVE to work 40 hours to afford, along with the bullshit foreign car, and other bullshit. End up slave to their jobs for 40 years even though they make the holy grail of six figures. We talking 2-income households and these idiots put themselves in a position where they 2 months from the poor house.

I'm not pro-immigrant at all, but I respect how immigrants come here, hustle, and have fucking financial sense.

I've been watching this radio host name Thom Hartman on youtube,he pretty much explain,how Reagan pretty much destroyed the middle class and sided with corporations.
.

Middle class was on its way to destruction way before Reagan. The glory years of "turn a screw' jobs were post-war to the 70s. The middle class was built on 'turn a screw' jobs and bloated ass government, public sector jobs. All those jobs were what anyone with a heartbeat could do. Middle class for regular joes always been a mirage.

Remember, they cook the books with the inflation numbers. CPLie isn't conspiracy talk. Purchasing power has been crushed by bankers. Go look at the real inflation numbers. Take a look at purchasing power from say 1965 to today.

Modern Americans tend to need 2 incomes where in 1970 a man could be in the suburbs with a homemaking wife, two cars, and kids. That started to get crushed in the 70s. Sad to say, paying people top dollar for grunt work isn't sustainable.

The bankers piled on. I haven't looked at bank saving interest rates in a long time, but I remember being offered .06 APY a few years back. Decades ago, people got 5% on their savings. Now if you know the FED's target rate for inflation you can pretty much know how fucked regular Joe's are these days.

 

[mariano42]

Corporate profits are not the same as company profits.

I used to belong to an organization called gig workers rising. We fought for better wages and working conditions for app contractors, particularly rideshare drivers and food couriers.

I left the group when I realized these companies are broke! Uber Lyft, doordash, etc, lose billions every year. Most food delivery companies even lost money during covid when they literally had a captive audience.

The only reason they are still afloat is because they've conned investors into giving them money with a promise of self-driving taxis and drone delivery services. The former is at least 10 years away and latter will likely never happen at all.

Drivers complained that they weren't making the money they did when they started. That's because investors started getting wise and pulled their funds. Now the companies can't subsidize the trips.

Couriers want to get paid what they're worth. Well, if the company loses money on every delivery then they would literally have to pay their bosses to let them work.

Yes, the CEOs makes millions and it's unfair. But even if their worked for free and gave that money to their people wouldn't make much difference. $5 million a year split amongst 1.7 million rideshare drivers wouldn't even be enough for each of them to buy a cheeseburger.

Yes, the company should pay higher wages, but if they don't have the means to do it you're literally fighting for your own extinction.

I went one date with a chick that worked for uber and she said the same, it's not a profitable business

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Depends on where you live, just like it does here.

I went back to visit a friend who just rented a two bedroom apartment in the suburbs. It's about an hour drive from Vancouver and a 30 minute bus ride from the nearest train station. He's paying $1,300 a month with a hookup. Without it he'd be paying $1,600.

One of my daughters rents a studio apartment in penticton. A small, remote, city of about 35,000 people. She's paying $800 a month.

Within Vancouver the rents are comparable to San Francisco.

Then again, how you live is just as important as where.

Man fuck all the mind fuckery.

If INFLATION can effect everything YOU PAY FOR,

it should effect everything they PAY YOU FOR...

everything effected by Inflation,

BUT YOUR FUCKIN WAGES!!!!

This generation aint having that shit.....

thats why

Quiet Quitting is A THING BRUH!!!!

 

[Dannyblueyes]

This is your reply

Depends on where you live, just like it does here.

I went back to visit a friend who just rented a two bedroom apartment in the suburbs. It's about an hour drive from Vancouver and a 30 minute bus ride from the nearest train station. He's paying $1,300 a month with a hookup. Without it he'd be paying $1,600.

One of my daughters rents a studio apartment in penticton. A small, remote, city of about 35,000 people. She's paying $800 a month.

Within Vancouver the rents are comparable to San Francisco.


Most of your post was talking about rents between the 800-1600 mark.. you pointed out 1 area in canada that was expensive like San Fran.. you didn’t mention that most of canada is paying Vancouver prices.. I clearly asked you what was rent/ mortgage prices and you replied with mostly talking about 1600 rent and 800.. notice the Vancouver comment had 1 line compared to several lines.. so if canada is more expensive as far as housing goes why didn’t you mostly talked about it? .. like I said I’m using your replies as proof of what people would comprehend from the info you provided. Once again you brought up canada in a discussion about American wages. No one cared or brought them up but you

I don't know what the rest of Canada is paying. Same as you probably don't know what the average rent in Duluth or Tulsa is either. Even if you looked it up there could be other factors that affect the cost of living out there that you wouldn't know unless you were from those cities. Same as I don't know what it cost to live in Saskatoon or Moncton.

Also, I've haven't paid rent on a Canadian property since 2008. A lot has changed there since then just like it has here.

 

[Dannyblueyes]

I'm in Ohio and cost-of-living ain't bad. But what do people do? Get a raise, buy the house they HAVE to work 40 hours to afford, along with the bullshit foreign car, and other bullshit. End up slave to their jobs for 40 years even though they make the holy grail of six figures. We talking 2-income households and these idiots put themselves in a position where they 2 months from the poor house.

I'm not pro-immigrant at all, but I respect how immigrants come here, hustle, and have fucking financial sense.

Now you're making too much sense.

My best friend and his wife make about $200,000 a year combined. They have a house outside Sacramento that looks like it should be on Cribs. Even has a heated indoor pool. Both of them drive brand new cars that they replace every few years. They hire a housekeeper once a week.

When I talk to him the other day though he told me they were "barely middle class" because he couldn't afford to enroll his daughters in private school.

It's not just him. Look at the size of houses built before the 1950s and look at everything that's been built since. People haven't grown twice as big in the last 70 years so why do the houses need to be?

Back in the day people got by with one car. Now they need one for each parent and every child over 16.

My parents, and just about every parent I know, told me stories about how they went out to eat once a month at most. The grandparents confirmed this with pride. Now it's got to the point where a lot of middle class people barely turn on their oven at all.

It's no longer enough to have a television, now you need a home theater system. Of course, the kids have to have one along with their own living room so that you don't have to watch annoying Disney movies with them.

10 years ago hard times forced me to move from a huge three bedroom apartment into it 75 sqft room. I could only bring what fit and had to get rid of the rest. Soon after it occurred to me that I really didn't need or even miss that extra stuff at all!

As I got back on my feet I kept that same philosophy. Don't own what you don't need. Don't pay for space you can't use. Always live below your means.