Capitalism & Covid-19

xfactor

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The United States has not be a country since 1871. Brothas need to stop parroting these lies. This corporation doesn’t practice capitalism but a form of pseudo-capitalism and quasi-socialism.

And your favorite civil rights leaders were open and closeted communists. Leave that system in China.
 

gene cisco

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Read on Twitter: "If capitalism is so great, how come socialism has to keep bailing it out?"
Ain't that the truth. Read last week the Cheesecake factor told its landlords to go fuck themselves, but 'joe average' supposed to hold his own nuts and is made to feel like absolute shit if the virus affects their ability to pay.

But let's not forget China's ability to wall off a city like this is the Walking Dead. They had one Wuhan. We about to have several and really put this capitalism shit to the test. Capitalism's cousin 'muh freedom' is hiding in the corner waiting its turn. :smh:
 

forcesteeler

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Read on Twitter: "If capitalism is so great, how come socialism has to keep bailing it out?"


I would love socialism but it will never work in the real world.

Getting a paycheck in emergency situations is not socialism
. Socialist want checks from the government as a way of life.

Im all good with helping people. People need help. I’m ok with giving food stamps, welfare and cash payments but it should be temporary not something people get for years and living off the government with no motivation to work hard.

There are no successful socialist countries.

You have people like Bernie Sanders and AOC that preach how much better places like Finland and Scandinavia is so much better than the USA.

My question is why don't you move there. Bernie Sanders have 3 Homes and all of them are in the United States.

Bernie Sanders become a millionaire off Capitalism. People that preach socialism, usually never traveled anywhere and don't know what real socialism is.
 

mcguyver

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I would love socialism but it will never work in the real world.

Getting a paycheck in emergency situations is not socialism
. Socialist want checks from the government as a way of life.

Im all good with helping people. People need help. I’m ok with giving food stamps, welfare and cash payments but it should be temporary not something people get for years and living off the government with no motivation to work hard.

There are no successful socialist countries.

You have people like Bernie Sanders and AOC that preach how much better places like Finland and Scandinavia is so much better than the USA.

My question is why don't you move there. Bernie Sanders have 3 Homes and all of them are in the United States.

Bernie Sanders become a millionaire off Capitalism. People that preach socialism, usually never traveled anywhere and don't know what real socialism is.


:confused: The government gets checks from you as a way of life.
 

forcesteeler

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:confused: The government gets checks from you as a way of life.


People bash Capitalism but I don't see anybody trying to make movies and live in a socialist country.

Here is a Map of North Korea and South Korea.

The reason why they are split is because of a War in the 1950's. Russia and The USA split the lines via the Cold War.

After the War. The North Koreans Listen to the Russians about Socialism/Communism Government Run System

The South Koreans listen to the United States about running a Capitalist run government.

Make a long story short. South Korea is the 11th Richest Country on Earth. While North Korea is 110th.

The whole Socialist argument of let the government run everything is bullshit. Giving too much power to the government creates corruption and most countries turn into dictatorships. You ever wonder why countries like North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela all have dictatorships?


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blackpepper

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The United States has not be a country since 1871. Brothas need to stop parroting these lies. This corporation doesn’t practice capitalism but a form of pseudo-capitalism and quasi-socialism. And your favorite civil rights leaders were open and closeted communists. Leave that system in China.
If America isn't a country anymore, what is a country? Are there any countries left, what are they?
 
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hardawayz16

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The whole Socialist argument of let the government run everything is bullshit. Giving too much power to the government creates corruption and most countries turn into dictatorships. You ever wonder why countries like North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela all have dictatorships?

They live in a fantasy world where with Socialism they'll get to keep their current way of life and also get free healthcare, housing, food, and whatever else with no trade offs.

Must be nice, ignoring history and what-not.
 

gene cisco

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Yup. Maybe we should be more like China, the CAUSE of this pandemic.

I can't wait for the mass surveillance, concentration camps, and other human rights abuses.
It doesn't work like that. You have to learn how to properly cherry pick the good, leave the bad, and then make your comparison. Or you can cherry pick the good and leave out the bad shit that is done to achieve the good results.

For example, the countries that are more socialist but have tight ass immigration laws. You highlight how they have great healthcare and support systems, but leave out the fact you just can't walk in there and get put on like in the U.S.
People bash Capitalism but I don't see anybody trying to make movies and live in a socialist country.

Here is a Map of North Korea and South Korea.

The reason why they are split is because of a War in the 1950's. Russia and The USA split the lines via the Cold War.

After the War. The North Koreans Listen to the Russians about Socialism/Communism Government Run System

The South Koreans listen to the United States about running a Capitalist run government.

Make a long story short. South Korea is the 11th Richest Country on Earth. While North Korea is 110th.

The whole Socialist argument of let the government run everything is bullshit. Giving too much power to the government creates corruption and most countries turn into dictatorships. You ever wonder why countries like North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela all have dictatorships?


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It's not so much capitalism that folks have a problem with here(not talking for the extreme leftists). It's the ABUSE of the system that is the problem. It's also the 'but that's different' aspect of 'handouts' when corporations need them.

Our politicians were supposed to check the abuse, but they became tools of the abusers. :smh:

Yeah, there are supposed to be winners and losers in capitalism, but government was supposed to keep the winners from running up the fucking score.
 

mcguyver

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People bash Capitalism but I don't see anybody trying to make movies and live in a socialist country.

Here is a Map of North Korea and South Korea.

The reason why they are split is because of a War in the 1950's. Russia and The USA split the lines via the Cold War.

After the War. The North Koreans Listen to the Russians about Socialism/Communism Government Run System

The South Koreans listen to the United States about running a Capitalist run government.

Make a long story short. South Korea is the 11th Richest Country on Earth. While North Korea is 110th.

The whole Socialist argument of let the government run everything is bullshit. Giving too much power to the government creates corruption and most countries turn into dictatorships. You ever wonder why countries like North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela all have dictatorships?


north-korea-empty-country.jpg

That's a very MAGA/CAC response..... "If you don't like blah, blah, blah than leave the country". You seem to have a "that's just the way it is" rebuttal to the flaws of capitalism. These types of attitudes gives the flaws strength and a green light for more flaws. Just like anything else there is no such thing as a perfect economic system but that doesn't mean you can't try to fix the flaws.

Oh and people/citizens have complaints about every economic system.
 

xfactor

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If America isn't a country anymore, what is a country? Are there any countries left, what are they?

All you have to do is read the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871.

All of this information is public knowledge so there is no excuse to continue to ask me for information when you can easily research yourself.
 

bromack1

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I would love socialism but it will never work in the real world.

Getting a paycheck in emergency situations is not socialism
. Socialist want checks from the government as a way of life.

Im all good with helping people. People need help. I’m ok with giving food stamps, welfare and cash payments but it should be temporary not something people get for years and living off the government with no motivation to work hard.

There are no successful socialist countries.

You have people like Bernie Sanders and AOC that preach how much better places like Finland and Scandinavia is so much better than the USA.

My question is why don't you move there. Bernie Sanders have 3 Homes and all of them are in the United States.

Bernie Sanders become a millionaire off Capitalism. People that preach socialism, usually never traveled anywhere and don't know what real socialism is.
You are 100% correct. Getting a "temporary check" does not mean we are a socialist country. Socialism pays you a" lifetime" entitlement checkas well as other free services... whatever that means.

I find it odd that people who complain about the ills of capitalism and claim socialism is so much better never pack their bags to move to a socialist country. I've always wondered about that when it comes to Bernie Sanders.
 

bromack1

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That's a very MAGA/CAC response..... "If you don't like blah, blah, blah than leave the country". You seem to have a "that's just the way it is" rebuttal to the flaws of capitalism. These types of attitudes gives the flaws strength and a green light for more flaws. Just like anything else there is no such thing as a perfect economic system but that doesn't mean you can't try to fix the flaws.

Oh and people/citizens have complaints about every economic system.


And for what its worth, people who live in socialist countries I can almost guarantee you have far more complaints about their governments than we do. You just don't hear about it. When was the last time you read a newspaper from another country.

I once laughed hysterically when I read how the NHS in England claimed they had to cut back on certain medical services for certain ailments because they did not have enough funding in the current years budget. As I recall, one of the issues was cataract surgery... the government would no longer fund cataract surgery but would only issue a stronger prescription of glasses.
 

hardawayz16

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For example, the countries that are more socialist but have tight ass immigration laws. You highlight how they have great healthcare and support systems, but leave out the fact you just can't walk in there and get put on like in the U.S.

Or, maybe they have to pay around half their income to taxes. Or, that universal health care can have you waiting a year for an important surgery...
 

bromack1

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There's a big difference between complaining and actually risking you and your families lives to escape one system for another.

Complaining is annoying and usually results in me not wanting to be around that person very long. You're always much better off trying to fix yourself rather than other people.
 

blackpepper

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I wanted to see if you'd say something insightful/useful, but honestly thought you'd reply with some BS like this. More clear as mud Illuminati non-sense. You frame the issue as being about countries, but won't answer those simple questions about countries. That's OK. The real issue is about sovereign states and the role they play in peoples lives. They actually exist, the US is one of them, we're all subject to them, and there is no complete escape from them even with money.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

All you have to do is read the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871. All of this information is public knowledge so there is no excuse to continue to ask me for information when you can easily research yourself.
 

forcesteeler

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Read on Twitter: "If capitalism is so great, how come socialism has to keep bailing it out?"
That's a very MAGA/CAC response..... "If you don't like blah, blah, blah than leave the country". You seem to have a "that's just the way it is" rebuttal to the flaws of capitalism. These types of attitudes gives the flaws strength and a green light for more flaws. Just like anything else there is no such thing as a perfect economic system but that doesn't mean you can't try to fix the flaws.

Oh and people/citizens have complaints about every economic system.


Its not MAGA. its reality!.

Believing in Socialism is like watching a Football Game or a Basketball Game and No Matter who wins or loses. Everybody gets a Trophy and awards.

The Flaw in Socialist ideas is that. Why work hard? Why bust your ass when your going to get the same benefits as another person that is lazy and does not want work.

Capitalism is not perfect, but there is a reason why the USA is the richest country on earth and people break there necks to come over the border.

I don't see too many americas trying to flee to socialist countries like Cuba, Venezuela. Because at the end of the day. Most of the people are broke anyways. The only rich people in Places like Cuba are people in government while there people starve,
 

mcguyver

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There's a big difference between complaining and actually risking you and your families lives to escape one system for another.


There are and have been plenty of people relocating to other countries. Relocating doesn't equal poverty and death. You guys are making it sound like America is heaven and everywhere else is hell.
 

mcguyver

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Its not MAGA. its reality!.

Believing in Socialism is like watching a Football Game or a Basketball Game and No Matter who wins or loses. Everybody gets a Trophy and awards.

The Flaw in Socialist ideas is that. Why work hard? Why bust your ass when your going to get the same benefits as another person that is lazy and does not want work.

Capitalism is not perfect, but there is a reason why the USA is the richest country on earth and people break there necks to come over the border.

I don't see too many americas trying to flee to socialist countries like Cuba, Venezuela. Because at the end of the day. Most of the people are broke anyways. The only rich people in Places like Cuba are people in government while there people starve,

I am not for one over the other. I am in America and this is where my roots are planted. But like I said and you agreed, capitalism is not perfect so instead of throwing passports at people who shine light on the flaws let's make an attempt to ban together and fix them.
 

hardawayz16

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There are and have been plenty of people relocating to other countries. Relocating doesn't equal poverty and death. You guys are making it sound like America is heaven and everywhere else is hell.

Which direction does "relocating" happen more:

People from socialist/communist countries relocating to western capitalist countries...

or

People from western capitalist countries relocating to socialist/communist countries?
 

forcesteeler

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Which direction does "relocating" happen more:

People from socialist/communist countries relocating to western capitalist countries...

or

People from western capitalist countries relocating to socialist/communist countries?

Like my father always told me. Never listen to people talk. Always watch there actions. Actions always tell you the truth.
 

mcguyver

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Which direction does "relocating" happen more:

People from socialist/communist countries relocating to western capitalist countries...

or

People from western capitalist countries relocating to socialist/communist countries?


You tell me, this is your talking piece. And while you are at it, tell me what that has to do with any of the statements I made.
 

hardawayz16

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You tell me, this is your talking piece. And while you are at it, tell me what that has to do with any of the statements I made.

:confused:

We're in a thread debating socialism and you mentioned relocating not always being about poverty/death, so I asked you a simple question about relocating due to economic systems.
 

xfactor

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I wanted to see if you'd say something insightful/useful, but honestly thought you'd reply with some BS like this. More clear as mud Illuminati non-sense. You frame the issue as being about countries, but won't answer those simple questions about countries. That's OK. The real issue is about sovereign states and the role they play in peoples lives. They actually exist, the US is one of them, we're all subject to them, and there is no complete escape from them even with money.

I gave you the congressional act that passed. did you want a full dissertation? :confused:

there is no such thing as the the Illuminati and I’m speaking specifically on THIS land where I am a citizen. I’m not a globalist and sovereign nations, huh. Please list them out, blackamoor.
 

hardawayz16

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It's funny, all yall who are calling for socialism now: Do yall REALLY want the government to have more power?

The same government who told us it was just the flu? Told us that we didn't need to wear mask? Told us to go outside in crowds and not to worry? That was ridiculously unprepared with medical supplies and respirators? Is second guessing closing borders and stopping flights? Is slow to approve drugs and treatments?

Meanwhile those evil capitalist have stepped up and helped the entire countries education needs (Google Classroom / Zoom). They're working right now to make more mask and respirators. They shut down producing beer, and perfumes to make hand sanitize, etc.
 
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