Cam’ron Reveals That He Wrote “Crush On You” Record

[keone]

Johnny Nunez, WireImage
Lil' Cease may have nabbed a few standout verses on Junior M.A.F.I.A. anthems, but his best known verse to date was his solo rhymes on Lil' Kim's 'Crush on You' that appeared on her 1996 debut 'Hardcore.' As it turns out, Cease-A-Leo has Cam'ron to thank for his shining moment.

Cam'ron recently revealed that his pen was behind the original rendition of the tune. During an interview with XXLMag.com, the Harlemite explained that Untertainment CEO Lance Un Rivera supplied Ma$e with $30,000 to ghostwriter for some of his artists. Instead of penning them himself, Ma$e paid Cam $5,000 to write a few songs -- one of which was 'Crush on You.'

"What happened was, Un gave Mase $30,000 to write five songs for Lil' Cease at that time and Mase gave me $5,000 of the 30 to write one or two of the songs," he explained. "I wrote the 'Crush on You' song and they ended up keeping it for Lil' Kim album but it was really for Lil' Cease. The original 'Crush on You' is all Lil' Cease, Lil' Kim isn't even on the record."

He continued by stating that he never received any royalties for his contributions to the record, the remix to which became one of Kim's highest charting songs to date. Cam's appearance at XXL coincided with the release of his collaboration LP 'Gunz N' Butta' with protege Vado, which bowed at No. 78 on the Billboard charts with 7,500 copies sold.
http://www.theboombox.com/2011/04/28/camron-says-he-wrote-lil-cease-verses-on-crush-on-you/

 

[CarryOn]

i can see mase coming up with those lines, not camron tho. shit even fits mase's delivery style.

 

[Fuzzy_McNut]

i can see mase coming up with those lines, not camron tho. shit even fits mase's delivery style.

not that great a claim to fame

 

[TEN]

so he can write better for others than he does for himself?

and LOL@7,500 sales, I guess puters really are puting.

 

[richlove]

i can see mase coming up with those lines, not camron tho. shit even fits mase's delivery style.

While you tryin to catch Sea Breeze, I'm in the PV's
All chrome D3's, decked out TV's


shiiiit, if you can't hear Cam saying that you need to listen to that nigga more often.

 

[POSTERBOY]

While you tryin to catch Sea Breeze, I'm in the PV's
All chrome D3's, decked out TV's


shiiiit, if you can't hear Cam saying that you need to listen to that nigga more often.

that's the EXACT line I thought about when I read the thread title

 

[cartempire]

I think cam wrote the mase record "why u over there looking at me" listen to that shit sounds just like cam

 

[Damn Right]

the jets gonna beat his azz for lyin. they wrote 'crush on you'.

u don't wanna fuk with a family of samoans

 

[marcvoi]

well camron had no pull to look at lance and mase to say "hey i want royalties etc... rivera would simply find anoter person or mase would do the writing himself. not clear if mase imself got royalties of that so if mase did not get rotalties for that camron wouldnt.

camron probably did it to wit a "no choice" position just get foot in door type thing.

this is not about camron but unless you have your own and put your name out there you hhave no leg to stand on when negotiating wit street savvy record execs.

 

[keone]

that's the EXACT line I thought about when I read the thread title

 

[Give Me 3ft.]

thought this was common knowledge.

think there was a line a 1 of his songs 'bout this.

 

[Complex]

I thought this was common knowledge?

I knew this years ago. This is the first I heard about the Mase shit though. That's funny, I'm pocketing 25, and you get 5.

But that's why it was amusing to me how the Kim stans acted towards the Nicki beef.

 

[playahaitian]

thought this was common knowledge.

think there was a line a 1 of his songs 'bout this.

I thought this was common knowledge?

I knew this years ago. This is the first I heard about the Mase shit though. That's funny, I'm pocketing 25, and you get 5.

But that's why it was amusing to me how the Kim stans acted towards the Nicki beef.

truth

 

[cartempire]

thought this was common knowledge.

think there was a line a 1 of his songs 'bout this.

yeah he been said it on one of Kay Slay lp

 

[Hotlantan]

So he supposedly fucked himself out of a lifetime of royalties by taking cash over a credit?? Nothing to be proud of.

Fact is, he IS listed as a co-writer and certainly must receive royalties. That's what publishers are for.

Writing credit has absolutely NOTHING to do with royalty splits - all it does is credit the writers. For two writers the split could be 50/50 or 99/01 or 100/0. Many times a rap song using samples can list all of the sampled song's writers but those original publishers can (and often did) negotiate a flat fee in lieu of long term royalties for a new song that might or might not have become a hit.

 

[Blunt]

Writing credit has absolutely NOTHING to do with royalty splits - all it does is credit the writers.

Writing credit has EVERYTHING to do with royalty splits. That's ALL that matters. Publishers get a percentage and writers get the rest. The artists (if they're not the writers) have a different arrangement.

 

[ScottyPiffen745]

I can picture him saying the chorus, even the "True" part.

 

[Blunt]

These are the only writers officially credited by ASCAP:

HEARD, ANDREAO SHAUNEE
LLOYD, JAMES KOWAN
LORBER, JEFFREY H
WALLACE, CHRISTOPHER

 

[Les W]

Writing credit has EVERYTHING to do with royalty splits. That's ALL that matters. Publishers get a percentage and writers get the rest. The artists (if they're not the writers) have a different arrangement.

you know nothing about the music industry please fall way back

I won't even touch on that comment about "Cam being stupid for taking $5k to do it instead of royalties" ... pick up a book asap

you out-trolled yourself again blunt

 

[Blunt]

you know nothing about the music industry please fall way back

I won't even touch on that comment about "Cam being stupid for taking $5k to do it instead of royalties" ... pick up a book asap

you out-trolled yourself again blunt

Blah, blah, blah. I've forgotten more about the music business than you'll ever know. Taking just $5K on a track that appears on a multi-Platinum album is ultimately a bad move, unless you were desperate.

 

[stopfakin83]

"Wanna use,my brain to give killa mad dough, its all good, increase killa cash flow, increase my fame thats why killa smash hoes" Cam
Sent from my HTC Evo using Tapatalk

 

[bborn]

peace

the jets gonna beat his azz for lyin. they wrote 'crush on you'.

u don't wanna fuk with a family of samoans

Who knows, maybe they're all B gang family connected with the BooYa Tribe

& Who deemed this new or newsworthy?

Still recall the big groove they threw for Cam on the Eastside in the late 90s through Un & them when he 1st officially came out.

Thought moves like that may be what influenced Curtis to licences MagicStick

peace

 

[phanatic]

I can't see spitting someone else's rhymes. It just doesn't feel right.

Edit:Kim was bad as hell in the green themed part of the video.

 

[FJP]

"Revealed"? It was revealed as soon as the album came out.

 

[FJP]

"Revealed"? It was revealed as soon as the album came out.

 

[xcluesiv]

so he can write better for others than he does for himself?

and LOL@7,500 sales, I guess puters really are puting.

 

[keone]

so he can write better for others than he does for himself?

and LOL@7,500 sales, I guess puters really are puting.

 

[Dirty Dade]

He revealed it years ago in a song also!

 

[woodchuck]

Blah, blah, blah. I've forgotten more about the music business than you'll ever know. Taking just $5K on a track that appears on a multi-Platinum album is ultimately a bad move, unless you were desperate.

Sadly, I have to agree with Blunt. Also, writing credit does have a lot to do with royalty splits. Who wrote what, and how much of it they wrote, depends on what they get.

 

[BrownTurd]

Writers don't always receive royalties. Most only receive a flat fee unless they are well known or have several hits under their belt.

 

[patscorpio]

i thought it was common knowledge that cam wrote crush on you

 

[woodchuck]

Writers don't always receive royalties. Most only receive a flat fee unless they are well known or have several hits under their belt.

This is also true. I know the girl that wrote "Survivor, and she sold the song outright.

 

[lexdiamonnyc]

He revealed it years ago in a song also!

it's crazy that Cam is even a topic of discussion at this point..........dude is beyond irrelevant........

 

[Complex]

it's crazy that Cam is even a topic of discussion at this point..........dude is beyond irrelevant........

But you came in the topic

 

[ss2020]

thought this was common knowledge.

think there was a line a 1 of his songs 'bout this.

When I used to do college radio, I remember we had a version of this w/o lil Kim so I'm not surprised.