Top 25 Players in the NBA

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The updated Top 25 has some few new faces and a shift at the top. I was blown away this year by Kevin Love, Blake Griffin and Russell Westbrook, but I was floored by the dominance of Derrick Rose. The tide has changed in terms of young players improving their games at a rapid pace. LaMarcus Aldridge grew up when given the chance to lead his team and he looked spectacular. Injuries and age also caused some veterans to drop, but I stand committed with my Top 25 and now I can’t wait to see who backs it up in the second season.

25. Zach Randolph (new)

Randolph has had a difficult time shaking his past and maybe that’s why people don’t give him his due, but he is one of the best power forwards in the league. He is a double –double machine like Howard, Griffin and Love and he should be higher than 25, but I want to see how he does in the playoffs.

24. Tony Parker (new)

Parker is the second best finisher at point guard in the paint behind Derrick Rose. He is shooting 52 percent this season and is a career 50 percent shooter. For some reason, he is always ignored in regards to attention, but comes up big when healthy every year and wins championships to boot.

23. Manu Ginobili (new)

Manu should get more ink because he’s the most important player on the team with the best record. Not a great shooter (43 percent) but just knows how to score in a variety of ways. He has been one of the best perimeter defenders in the league for years and flourishes in crunch time.

22. Kevin Garnett (20)

Garnett seems to be using more smoke and mirrors this season regarding his reputation. He is still very valuable and come playoff time more shots are warranted based on his shooting percentage this season. The defense is still good, but has become a non-factor in blocking shots.

21. Paul Pierce (19)

Another solid all-around season for Pierce. He is the true leader of the Celtics and defensively is very underrated. I still believe shedding some weight would elevate his game even more, but he’s obviously content to carry it. Pierce is shooting almost 50 percent from the field, which is way above his career average of 45.

20. LaMarcus Aldridge (new)

The kid has become a man by default. Unfortunately, it came at the expense of Brandon Roy’s troubled knees. Aldridge has taken over as the best player in Portland and it’s the go-to guy now. He should garner some MVP votes based on his play when the Blazers were struggling with injuries.

19. Tim Duncan (14)

He still is the best combination of defense and offense in the league at the center position. Don’t be fooled by his 13-point scoring average because he only played 28 minutes a game – and that was by design. He also pulled down 9 rebounds, a number that will climb in the postseason.

18. Steve Nash (10)

Age pushes him down the list, but he is still the best leader at point guard in the league. He continues to lead the league in assists despite many personnel changes. Nash is the best shooter in the league in my estimation, but prefers to pass and be a decoy.

17. Rajon Rondo (15)

Got off to a tremendous start this season in the assist category and defensively is probably the best at his position. The negative is that his shot has not improved and that keeps him a step behind Chris Paul and Deron Williams.

16. Blake Griffin (new)

The most athletic basketball player I have seen since Dominique Wilkins. Griffin is extremely raw, but yet is a double-double machine. Once he improves his jump shot, he will be impossible to deal with individually. The Clippers have a superstar and now the question is… Will they be able to surround him with veteran players?

15. Kevin Love (new)

Despite playing for one of the worst teams in the league, he stood out among power forwards. I don’t care where you are playing… If you grab 15 rebounds and score 20 points every game, you are very good. Throw in a 41 percent three-point percentage and he becomes a freak of nature.

14. Russell Westbrook (new)

Westbrook was running neck and neck with Amare Stoudemire for early-season MVP until Derrick Rose just went ballistic. He is a power point guard with a fearless barrage of moves to the basket. I love his intensity level during games. I often wondered if he was a malcontent, but the response he gets from teammates says otherwise. He and Rose are the most physical point guards in the league.

13. Chris Bosh (13)

I think Bosh has had to change his game more than any player this year, but that’s what he signed up for. He is facing the same scenario as Pau Gasol and at times looks out of sort. He still averaged 18 points and shot close to 50 percent.

12. Pau Gasol (12)

Gasol has had his usual good year. We expect more because he is so talented, but also we have learned that it’s extremely hard to be very consistent in the great but stifling triangle offense that includes Kobe Bryant. Gasol will go minutes without touching the ball and that relaxes a player many perceive as soft and content with his situation.

11. Deron Williams (9)

A bad wrist has held Williams back this year and yet he still put up great numbers. The New Jersey Nets will become a playoff team in the next few years because Williams is the best pure point guard in basketball on both sides of the ball – when healthy.

10. Chris Paul (11)

Injuries have held Paul back over the last few years, but he is one of the toughest players in the NBA. He controls the game better than any player at his position and is truly the extension of his coach.

9. Dirk Nowitzki (8)

Dirk is quietly having one of his best years. With career highs in field goal percentage, he’s close to becoming a 50(FG)-40(3P)-90(FT) player this year. I still would like him to post up more to solidify his all-around great offense.

8. Carmelo Anthony (7)

The most versatile scorer in the league. His game-winning shots are elevating him into Kobe status. Carmelo could become a good defender if he focused like his good friend LeBron and if it happens, the Knicks could have success in the playoffs.

7. Amare Stoudemire (6)

If there is such a thing as a mid-season MVP, well, Amare was the winner. He has taken the big stage in New York and accepted the challenge of becoming a leader both on the court and in the locker room. I applaud him for allowing Carmelo to become the go-to guy in the fourth quarter despite averaging the most points himself in the last quarter before Anthony arrived.

6. Derrick Rose (22)

I move him from 22 to 6 and therefore this becomes the biggest jump ever in the Top 25. Rose will become an MVP at 22 years old and it is well deserved. I marvel at his stoic intensity level and I am blown away with his ability to change directions at full speed in a crowd. I mentioned in the last blog of this kind that if he made that jumper in the two-man game, he would be virtually unguardable. He has and it will get him the MVP at season’s end.

5. Dwyane Wade (4)

Did not get the credit he deserved for accepting the best player in the league as a teammate. Wade has allowed LeBron to control the ball and he has career highs in field goal percentage and rebounds. I always believed Wade could be a factor off the ball and he is proving it.

4. Kevin Durant (3)

The best pure scorer in the league. Continues to get better at all facets of the game. I would still like Durant to put on some more pounds and get stronger because then he would hold position better and elevate his scoring even more. He is a true leader also and that is why he will become a champion very soon.

3. Dwight Howard (5)

The most dominant player in the paint. Howard has really improved his ability to score more efficiently and navigate the double team. The best rebounder in the league and also the best defender. The technical fouls need to be controlled because they punish his team.

2. Kobe Bryant (1)

Still the best closer since Michael Jordan, but I think he’s on cruise control at different periods of the game. And rightly so. The games and minutes are starting to take a toll. Kobe has become more of a jump shooter and the all-around dominance of his game has dropped a notch, but he is still capable of carrying the Lakers to a third straight championship in 2011.

1. LeBron James (2)

Has not missed a beat in terms of performance although he’s playing with two other superstars. The best all-around player in the league. Cleveland became the worst team in the league when he took his talents to South Beach. No, he is not a great closer compared to Kobe, but he makes players better and still shoots over 50 percent and averages 27 points, 7.5 rebounds and 7 assists. Enough said!

THE NEXT 10

Monta Ellis
Kevin Martin
Joe Johnson
Ray Allen
Gerald Wallace
Carlos Boozer
Luol Deng
Grant Hill
Brook Lopez
Al Horford

OUT BECAUSE OF INJURIES

Yao Ming

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2. Kobe Bryant (1)

Still the best closer since Michael Jordan, but I think he’s on cruise control at different periods of the game. And rightly so. The games and minutes are starting to take a toll. Kobe has become more of a jump shooter and the all-around dominance of his game has dropped a notch, but he is still capable of carrying the Lakers to a third straight championship in 2011.

:eek: :eek: Obviously not a BGOL member. To mention Kobe Bryant in the same sentence as Jordan? That's enough to get any BGOL members boy shorts in a twist.
 
Here's the Top 15 player jerseys list for the 2010/2011 season:

1) LeBron James, Miami Heat

2) Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers

3) Rajon Rondo, Boston Celtics

4) Amar'e Stoudemire, New York Knicks

5) Derrick Rose, Chicago Bulls

6) Dwyane Wade, Miami Heat

7) Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City Thunder

8) Carmelo Anthony, New York Knicks

9) Dwight Howard, Orlando Magic

10 ) John Wall, Washington Wizards

11) Blake Griffin, Los Angeles Clippers

12) Shaquille O'Neal, Boston Celtics

13) Ray Allen, Boston Celtics

14) Paul Pierce, Boston Celtics

15) Kevin Garnett, Boston Celtics
 
Rudy Gay should have bin in the top 25.Chris Bosh at 13 is a joke. Lamarcus should be 13 and bosh 20
 
lebron should not be rated number one, not until he's more clutch down the stretch, he's like 15 percent on buzzer beater shoots, plus he has no post game, cant hit clutch free throws, no rings, Kobe should be number one. blake griffen is also rated to high, his game lacks refinement. All he can do is make good sport center highlight dunks.
 
7. Amare Stoudemire (6)
13. Chris Bosh (13)

These 2 are too high. Amare should be about 13 and Bosh not even in the top 25.
 
I think it's a good list. Although there can be arguments for and against players on the list and who didn't make the list.....what it boils down to me is the list is pretty solid as a whole!! :cool:
 
Here's the Top 15 player jerseys list for the 2010/2011 season:

1) LeBron James, Miami Heat

2) Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers

3) Rajon Rondo, Boston Celtics

4) Amar'e Stoudemire, New York Knicks

5) Derrick Rose, Chicago Bulls

6) Dwyane Wade, Miami Heat

7) Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City Thunder

8) Carmelo Anthony, New York Knicks

9) Dwight Howard, Orlando Magic

10 ) John Wall, Washington Wizards

11) Blake Griffin, Los Angeles Clippers

12) Shaquille O'Neal, Boston Celtics

13) Ray Allen, Boston Celtics

14) Paul Pierce, Boston Celtics

15) Kevin Garnett, Boston Celtics

"The only way to beat the Lakers in the playoffs is to sell more jerseys than them"

Garnett led the league in jersey sales in '08. To be continued...
 
Storied franchises (I.e. lakers and celts) have more fans than anyone. They essentially play half of their road games where their fans outnumber the home teams. That's because they've been great several times throughout the last 50 years+.. Same goes with Cowboys, Steelers, Yankees and a few others. So their sales never surprise me because that teams may have 5-20x the fan base the T Wolves might have.
 
Did Malone average 7 APG??

Is Lebron the #2 All time scoring Leader??

Better Yet What's More Fascinating, Lebron Averaging 26.7, 7.0 & 7.5 Or Kobe at 32yrs Of age Averaging 25.3 5.1 & 4.7........also passing Pat Ewing, J.west, The proclaim best laker ever mr.logo, Reggie miller, D.wilking, Big O, Hakeem, Elvin Hayes, Moses! the nigga past moses man!!!! and being #6 on the all time scoring leaders. I mean which one sounds better to u?
 
Is Lebron the #2 All time scoring Leader??

He will be, but all we're talking about is ONE MOMENT in time and not an entire career.

James is certainly a more domninant all-around player than Malone (or Kobe).

Or Kobe at 32yrs Of age Averaging 25.3 5.1 & 4.7........also passing Pat Ewing, J.west, The proclaim best laker ever mr.logo, Reggie miller, D.wilking, Big O, Hakeem, Elvin Hayes, Moses! the nigga past moses man!!!! and being #6 on the all time scoring leaders. I mean which one sounds better to u?

Kobe is NOT superior to Jerry West (who at age 32 averaged 26.9/4.6/9.5)
 
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Is Lebron the #2 All time scoring Leader??

Better Yet What's More Fascinating, Lebron Averaging 26.7, 7.0 & 7.5 Or Kobe at 32yrs Of age Averaging 25.3 5.1 & 4.7........also passing Pat Ewing, J.west, The proclaim best laker ever mr.logo, Reggie miller, D.wilking, Big O, Hakeem, Elvin Hayes, Moses! the nigga past moses man!!!! and being #6 on the all time scoring leaders. I mean which one sounds better to u?

How long has kobe been playing?????? You make no sense.....

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He will be, but all we're talking about is ONE MOMENT in time and not an entire career.

James is certainly a more domninant all-around player than Malone (or Kobe).


I need certainty, I personally don't think he will. When he gets older, he won't be able to be the aggressor that he is now. The Jump Shot will have to be more efficient than ever. The secret is The fade-away! Jordan Perfected it when he got older, So Did Kobe! I haven't even seen Bron do a fade away this year let alone dominate the post! :hmm:
 
I need certainty, I personally don't think he will. When he gets older, he won't be able to be the aggressor that he is now. The Jump Shot will have to be more efficient than ever. The secret is The fade-away! Jordan Perfected it when he got older, So Did Kobe! I haven't even seen Bron do a fade away this year let alone dominate the post! :hmm:

Huh?? All LeBron has to do is show up for the next 10 years and he'll end up with 38,000 points.
 
lebron should not be rated number one, not until he's more clutch down the stretch, he's like 15 percent on buzzer beater shoots, plus he has no post game, cant hit clutch free throws, no rings, Kobe should be number one. blake griffen is also rated to high, his game lacks refinement. All he can do is make good sport center highlight dunks.


....being a great closer is a Jordan thing, and everyone wants the next great player to be like or better than Mike, and we use buzzer beaters as the yardstick, as if thats the single most important mark of great players...too often the only reason you're shooting at the buzzer to win is because you were slack during the earlier part of the game when you should have been handling your business....being clutch in game 7 of a championship is one thing, winning a game with a buzzer beater in a meaningless mid season game is something else......when I think of best players of all-time, I put Magic at #1, Jordan at #2....Magic didn't have many buzzer beaters for wins, didn't even have a reliable jumpshot, but he was solid in every category, and probably had the highest basketball IQ of any player I've ever seen...another thing, when Magic, Jordan, Lebron are on the floor, you know they are on the floor, because they are engaged on both ends of the floor, and they are usually involved in the front end or the tailend of any given play....there have been many times where Kobe disappears while he's on the floor, just seeming to go through the motions to prove some point...
 
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He will be, but all we're talking about is ONE MOMENT in time and not an entire career.

Ok the thread just says top 25 players in NBA.


Kobe is NOT superior to Jerry West (who at age 32 averaged 26.9/4.6/9.5)

He averaged that, But all the real bball players (black) were scarce back then. Would Jerry West Average that now, at 32 or even in his prime? hell Naw. He would average 5assists and 5 Sit the fuck Downs!

Huh?? All LeBron has to do is show up for the next 10 years and he'll end up with 38,000 points.

He has to do way more Than Show up! what good is all that when you don't have a ring to show for it?
 
He averaged that, But all the real bball players (black) were scarce back then. Would Jerry West Average that now, at 32 or even in his prime? hell Naw. He would average 5assists and 5 Sit the fuck Downs!

The league was BETTER back them. Fewer teams and MORE quality players on each team. There was no shortage of blacks. ALL of the best players in the country were on the court. That racist shit is garbage. West did everything better than Kobe (and better than just about every guard in history).

He has to do way more Than Show up! what good is all that when you don't have a ring to show for it?

He took a garbage team to 66 and 61 wins and the finals. Kobe has never done that. And Kobe has never led his team in PPG, RPG, APG and SPG in a single season.
 
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The league was BETTER back them.

the game wasn't necessarily better , it was DIFFERENT...a different game...the game changed when Magic and Bird entered the league....Kareem won in Milwaukee with the Big O, and won in LA with Magic...playing 2 different games of NBA basketball....the old NBA and ABA was a high scoring, run and gun game, night in , night out....very little defense was played, it was mostly offensively driven....todays game has a huge defensive element in it that Jerry West and most of his era never faced...defensive specialists are on every team today....you had 130-140 point games back in the 70's all the time...those games are rare over the last 30 years...not because offenses were better in the 70's, but because defenses are better since 1980 and the rules were changed that cut down scoring....
 
the game wasn't necessarily better , it was DIFFERENT...a different game...the game changed when Magic and Bird entered the league....Kareem won in Milwaukee with the Big O, and won in LA with Magic...playing 2 different games of NBA basketball....the old NBA and ABA was a high scoring, run and gun game, night in , night out....very little defense was played, it was mostly offensively driven....todays game has a huge defensive element in it that Jerry West and most of his era never faced...defensive specialists are on every team today....you had 130-140 point games back in the 70's all the time...those games are rare over the last 30 years...not because offenses were better in the 70's, but because defenses are better since 1980 and the rules were changed that cut down scoring....

60% fewer teams + More great players on each team - scrubs = Better, more competitive league
 
.... I don't disagree that there were more quality players per team then with a smaller league, but the game was simply basketball then, where the game's best offensive players were the stars, best offense almost always won and offense was far ahead of the defensive game....with TV, marketing and the internet exploding in the 80's, 90's and up to the present, it is now more about entertainment than basketball, and the best defensive teams are the dominant teams..
 
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