Wow I just realized none of those belts were defended. Unbelievable. The Tag Team division needs to be rebooted and ASAP.

The I-C title match was going to be a dark match but it eventually got switched to a battle royal match but yeah the tag-team division is a joke in wwe. At least that's one thing TNA has in their favor.
 
Fair enough. Just for fun, apart from Rock vs Austin (which of course is better than anything on the WM27 card) are there ANY matches on there better than Rey/Rhodes, HHH/Undertaker, Punk/Orton, or Edge/Del Rio? The simple answer is no, so therefore it's not the worst Wrestlemania by a longshot.

It's fun, every year, to say "this is the worst Wrestlemania ever," but that is rarely the case.

Just keeping it honest.



Just getting home a couple hours ago from Atlanta and I enjoyed Mania live.
This was not even close to the worst WrestleMania. Anybody remember IV? Or IX? V was much worse than this one. This one wasn't great (just bizarre, nonsensical booking and Cole's performance was horrible, even worse than I expected) but it wasn't the worst.
HHH-Taker was great and should have been the finale, easily the best match of the night.
WWE continued to show they refuse to book strong heels. Del Rio lost. Punk lost to a previously injured, by Punk, Randy Orton. Miz won (SHOCKINGLY!!!!) but looked weak. The Corre got beat by a mishmash of guys in less time than it took me to type this. So when they try to figure out why people aren't interested, there it is.
Cody and Rey had a solid match and I'm glad one heel won and looked strong in winning.
Screw WWE for giving us so many long, pointless skits and pushing Sheamus-Bryan to the dark match, which didn't even have a finish and became a battle royal.
It would have been better for Punk to win but he still carried Orton to his first good match in over two years. He just earned himself a job for life.
Rock was great the first time but after seeing him so much in the first hour, I was over him.
Sorry, he's still not the best promo of all time. That's still Flair and Dusty is above Rock too.

I had some things to say about Atlanta but I'll hold my peace.
 
Yeah anybody who says this is the worst has never seen 2,4,9,13 (minus Austin/Bret),15,20(minus HHH/Benoit/HBK), and 25(minus Taker/HBK). It's wasn't the greatest but i'll get it when it comes out on dvd, Miz had a great hype video and Cena im sorry but imo he's done and i don' think a heel turn will work.

I forgot how bad XIII was. Even Bret/Austin couldn't save that show.
A Cena turn with this creative crew wouldn't work but with some seasoned pro wrestling bookers (not entertainment writers) would make it work. The only reason Hogan's turned work is because most of the WCW crowd was booing him anyway. Rock has totally turned the WWE crowd against Cena and he should, in a wrestling sense, be upset and want to go "Screw the fans". That was the best part of Jeff Hardy's turn in TNA. Too bad they, Hardy included, fucked it up.

Was it me? I thought Cena was injured during the match and they had to end the program short. Miz looked a little lost and perplexed like wtf. He is not seasoned enough to go off script


Haven't seen or read anything about Cena being hurt. This was just bad booking. Dude took one Rock Bottom and disappeared. We saw before that HHH and Taker getting hammered and getting back up but he's done after one hard bump?:smh:

Unless Vince has opened the vault and got Rock to come back full time, he should not have fed his top two guys to a celebrity, even if that celebrity is the Rock.
 
I forgot how bad XIII was. Even Bret/Austin couldn't save that show.
A Cena turn with this creative crew wouldn't work but with some seasoned pro wrestling bookers (not entertainment writers) would make it work. The only reason Hogan's turned work is because most of the WCW crowd was booing him anyway. Rock has totally turned the WWE crowd against Cena and he should, in a wrestling sense, be upset and want to go "Screw the fans". That was the best part of Jeff Hardy's turn in TNA. Too bad they, Hardy included, fucked it up.




Haven't seen or read anything about Cena being hurt. This was just bad booking. Dude took one Rock Bottom and disappeared. We saw before that HHH and Taker getting hammered and getting back up but he's done after one hard bump?:smh:

Unless Vince has opened the vault and got Rock to come back full time, he should not have fed his top two guys to a celebrity, even if that celebrity is the Rock.

Was it me or did Cena trip over Miz early in the match and went facefirst into the bottom rope?
 
Just getting home a couple hours ago from Atlanta and I enjoyed Mania live. Rock was great the first time but after seeing him so much in the first hour, I was over him.
Sorry, he's still not the best promo of all time. That's still Flair and Dusty is above Rock too.

I had some things to say about Atlanta but I'll hold my peace.

No wrestler is above that if you see them too many times in a night the crowd will become indifferent. I agree flair & rock can go toe to toe but i was never a fan of dusty's promos because they tended to sound like ramblings.

Was the ATL not hospitable or were the gays harassing you?
 
No wrestler is above that if you see them too many times in a night the crowd will become indifferent. I agree flair & rock can go toe to toe but i was never a fan of dusty's promos because they tended to sound like ramblings.

Was the ATL not hospitable or were the gays harassing you?

You have to catch some 70s Dream. Dude could make you BELIEVE to the point of tears.

ATL was fine but the really big girls were in full force and the city has a LOT of infrastructure problems that a top tier city like Atlanta shouldn't have.
 
Tough Enough got a couple nice lookin' bitches. That black one, Ariyanna or whatever her name is, could get broke OFF.
 
Was expecting "That's the bottom line!!! Cuz Stone Cold Said So!" vs ".. and that's all I gotta say about THAT!"

The bitches were hot, (PR chick wasn't garnering my attention but I am sure she had good pusseh)
 
The brown skinned one with the blondish weave in her hair is Alicia Fox's sister.

Yeah I thought they looked alike and they also didn't know what to do with her hair.


The other one in the red and the spanish broad in the blue look like some winners to me.
 
Yeah anybody who says this is the worst has never seen 2,4,9,13 (minus Austin/Bret),15,20(minus HHH/Benoit/HBK), and 25(minus Taker/HBK). It's wasn't the greatest but i'll get it when it comes out on dvd, Miz had a great hype video and Cena im sorry but imo he's done and i don' think a heel turn will work.

I agree with you up until WM20. That was a good deal better than this event. 1 ***** match, One **** match, and a couple *** matches make for a better event than this one. Only match that was outright bad was Lesnar/Brock but I'd choose that one over Cole/Lawler for some reason.
 
This is the most boring post-WrestleMania Raw I've ever watched....so far.

I thought I was the only one that was thinking that,and I thought I would never utter these words but I'm looking forward to see John Cena tonite, mainly to see how many boos he get tonite.
 
I thought I was the only one that was thinking that,and I thought I would never utter these words but I'm looking forward to see John Cena tonite, mainly to see how many boos he get tonite.

Agreed. At this point I'm going back to watching Raw on You Tube. This really doesn't deserve my ratings contribution. Rock/Cena better be awesome to save this show and this night. The crowd is DEAD for a pretty well wrestled US title match....the match they were supposed to show LAST night BTW.
 
This is the most boring post-WrestleMania Raw I've ever watched....so far.

I haven't seen the previous from last year, but I am sure this one is probably one of the most entertaining (in terms of the old Superstars) compared to the past. Compared to the average "Raw" monday night episode, I particularly like this RAW.

And I know many of you will disagree but The Miz to me is looking like the new rock. As bad as he is, Rock was also shitty as some point.
 
I haven't seen the previous from last year, but I am sure this one is probably one of the most entertaining (in terms of the old Superstars) compared to the past. Compared to the average "Raw" monday night episode, I particularly like this RAW.

And I know many of you will disagree but The Miz to me is looking like the new rock. As bad as he is, Rock was also shitty as some point.

blasphemy. But I will give the Miz his due. He has earned my respect.
 
Dream match BOOKED. Can die happy now.

Vince is a genius....advance tickets are already being bought.

The crowd hates it but whatever...
 
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