I just can't believe a society that is capable of Nuclear destruction still believes in a god-child birthed by a Virgin.
You foolish no education, lack of common sense bastard.
Secret tablets discovered.Could it be proof of Jesus?
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You foolish no education, lack of common sense bastard.
I just can't believe a society that is capable of Nuclear destruction still believes in a god-child birthed by a Virgin.
The burden rests with neither.
It is not for the believer to prove his FAITH to you.
It is not for you to prove your DISBELIEF to him.
However, it is the BOTH of you to respect each other's choices and (non)beliefs.
No, the burden rests with those making the claim. People who didn't believe the Wright Brothers could make a plane fly didn't have the burden or proving a plane can't fly.. the Wright Brothers had the burden of proving it can.
Faith is the belief in the unknown or unproven. I don't expect anyone to have the burden to prove to me that they believe in the unknown or unproven. But when they declare Jesus and God exist, I simply ask for proof. If they acknowledge there is no proof, it's just faith (their imagination), I'm ok with that.
Faith is the belief in the unknown or unproven. I don't expect anyone to have the burden to prove to me that they believe in the unknown or unproven. But when they declare Jesus and God exist, I simply ask for proof. If they acknowledge there is no proof, it's just faith (their imagination), I'm ok with that.
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I'm insane?
We are typing this in the language of the CAC(I guess our ancestors had a choice in that matter too). We don't even speak the tongue of our ancestors and you think we have their religion?
You fail to mention the slavemasters didn't want the slaves practicing their NATIVE religions.
Humor me. Besides xtianity what other religions did the whites give our ancestors to "choose" from?
- your first argument if i'm not mistaken is: we speak English, English is European so Christianity is European.
this is a logical fallacy, as one has absolutely nothing to do with the other in historical precedent. Correlation does not imply causation.
- Your second point is that since the slave masters didn't want slaves practicing any other African religion, they were by default encouraging Christianity. this is an informal fallacy, as you are attacking a "similar" idea without addressing the facts i presented at all. you are attacking a straw man. slave owners didn't want slaves practicing anything that might foster a slave revolt, but this had nothing to do with religion at all.
- your third point assumes that an event occurred historically, in this case that slave masters offered various religions to slaves to choose from. the burden of proof falls on your shoulders to show that it actually happened. this "religious multiple choice presentation" didn't occur.
i already showed proof that many African slaves were already Christians before they got to the U.S. i'm sorry that your knowledge of world history is limited by your lack of investigation and adherence to Muslim and White supremacist ideology.
but the proof has been presented, please deal with that rather than making up stuff and arguing non correlated ideas.
*sigh*
I am all for people believing or worshiping Christ (the anointed one) ... Bhudda, science, technology or what have you because I know it has some real world value .... and life is a journey not a destination ... but for crying out loud do your research/homework gatdamnit
apparently you haven't done yours.
What really gets me is religioun has not done a damn thing for Black folks.. not a damn thing. But they love it!
I just can't believe a society that is capable of Nuclear destruction still believes in a god-child birthed by a Virgin.
Niggas like him (and unfortunately there are way too many) need religion because they are not capable of resolving their surroundings in a rational manner. Simple fairy tails and escapism puts their feeble minds at ease.
And make no mistake about it, there's no difference between these theists in this thread and those locked up in a loony bin worshiping martians living under their stairs. xtianity is the socially acceptable insanity of this time period.
- your first argument if i'm not mistaken is: we speak English, English is European so Christianity is European.
- Your second point is that since the slave masters didn't want slaves practicing any other African religion, they were by default encouraging Christianity. this is an informal fallacy, as you are attacking a "similar" idea without addressing the facts i presented at all. you are attacking a straw man. slave owners didn't want slaves practicing anything that might foster a slave revolt, but this had nothing to do with religion at all.
- your third point assumes that an event occurred historically, in this case that slave masters offered various religions to slaves to choose from. the burden of proof falls on your shoulders to show that it actually happened. this "religious multiple choice presentation" didn't occur.
i already showed proof that many African slaves were already Christians before they got to the U.S. i'm sorry that your knowledge of world history is limited by your lack of investigation and adherence to Muslim and White supremacist ideology.
but the proof has been presented, please deal with that rather than making up stuff and arguing non correlated ideas.
I bring up the language to show just how our people were stripped of everything. Language AND religion. This is why we speak English and the majority worship the religion he introduced us to. Our ancestors had no choice in language and religion.
By the CACs own writing they show that most slaves brought here were not xtians. Also, Whites were terrified of their religious practices. Any Africans brought here xtians had already been converted by CAC missions that had set up shop.
It wasn't the religion of our people just as English wasn't the language of our people. Didn't I prove this to you last year?
What really gets me is religioun has not done a damn thing for Black folks.. not a damn thing. But they love it!
Except to teach them to turn the other cheek and keep themselves meek and someday we'll inherit the Earth. Plus we all know when this shit is over we're going to heaven.
But in the meantime....
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The Scandanavian Jesus depicted in churches would have died of Sunburn.It just goes to show you how deep rooted that racism/superiority complex is.Even more fucked up is how many black folks have that same Swedish Jesus portrait in their homes.Catholics even add to it by making up "Saints".More white men for people to pray to.I was raised Christian,but really its just not logical.
The Jesus you see in most of those paintings is actually Cesare Borgia(yeah, that criminal ass degenerate Borgia family), don't believe me, look it up.
1492 goes down as the year that the entire planet was hoodwinked by the Roman Catholic Church. During Alexander VI's term the Christians were fighting the Holy Crusades against the so called infidels. The enemy that the church was fighting was the northward movement of Islam as far up into Europe as Germany. These Middle Eastern Islamics took control of Constantinopole in Turkey and threatened the stronghold that the Roman Empire and in turn the church had on the world at the time. Pope Alexander used the age old tactic of discrediting an opponent to weaken his position. One major obstacle that faced Alexander and the church was the fact that Jesus, who their entire religion was based on was physically the same as the Islamics that they were fighting against. He was represented in all paintings, carvings and sculptures as the dark skinned man of Middle Eastern origin that he was. Nazareth certainly was in the Middle Eastern area that later came under the influence of Islam. How could they possibly convince their constituency of the wickedness of the enemy when their own messiah looked like them? Although the original Christians were certainly Middle Eastern people of color, by the time Alexander ascended to the papacy, Europeans had long taken control of the church. Pope Alexander VI's solution was to have every image of the real Jesus destroyed and literally had the Vatican gutted and redone. He commissioned Leonardo Di Vinci to recast Jesus in the image of his son Cesare Borgia with the express intent of passing off historical Jesus as European in appearance. To this day, there are armed guards stationed around the clock at the entrances of the catacombs to keep anyone from viewing the original wall carvings of Jesus in his legitimate ethnic representation.
1492 goes down as the year that the entire planet was hoodwinked by the Roman Catholic Church. During Alexander VI's term the Christians were fighting the Holy Crusades against the so called infidels. The enemy that the church was fighting was the northward movement of Islam as far up into Europe as Germany. These Middle Eastern Islamics took control of Constantinopole in Turkey and threatened the stronghold that the Roman Empire and in turn the church had on the world at the time. Pope Alexander used the age old tactic of discrediting an opponent to weaken his position. One major obstacle that faced Alexander and the church was the fact that Jesus, who their entire religion was based on was physically the same as the Islamics that they were fighting against. He was represented in all paintings, carvings and sculptures as the dark skinned man of Middle Eastern origin that he was. Nazareth certainly was in the Middle Eastern area that later came under the influence of Islam. How could they possibly convince their constituency of the wickedness of the enemy when their own messiah looked like them? Although the original Christians were certainly Middle Eastern people of color, by the time Alexander ascended to the papacy, Europeans had long taken control of the church. Pope Alexander VI's solution was to have every image of the real Jesus destroyed and literally had the Vatican gutted and redone. He commissioned Leonardo Di Vinci to recast Jesus in the image of his son Cesare Borgia with the express intent of passing off historical Jesus as European in appearance. To this day, there are armed guards stationed around the clock at the entrances of the catacombs to keep anyone from viewing the original wall carvings of Jesus in his legitimate ethnic representation.
The Christ is no different than any other figure. To think that the Middle East is the core of spirituality when people were living all over the world doing their own thing - is silly.
They are trying so hard to find proof that this Jesus even existed. When in reality, he never did!
They are trying so hard to find proof that this Jesus even existed. When in reality, he never did!
The reason why there are so many different "images" of "Jesus" is because he didn't exist. Religious nuts are just creating random images of their make believe god.
Yeah, but those that try to justify still worshiping what the slave master gave them try to go out the way to prove that he was black. We know he wasn't a blonde blue eye CAC but he probably wasn't black either.
But I guess since he spoke Aramaic he was black, well that is what xtian kneegrows try to tell us. That's funny coming from black people that can only communicate in a white language.
you haven't proven a thing as you have not provided any evidence to support your religion.
you are crazy because you think things happened when they didn't.
no cannot accept simple logic, and defend logical fallacies even when they are explained to you.
you WANT to believe you're right, so you have dismissed all the physical evidence presented, dismissed the logical fallacies of your belief system, and makeup wholesale events that didn't happen.
you are not sane.
do you have any decency or honesty at all? why do you kep lying about this, or comforting yourself with the untruths you're telling yourself?
we are not debating religion, we are debating HISTORY.
i've provided you with the history books...you've provided me with very WEAK rhetoric.
can you not be HONEST about at least THAT?
or does your pathology preclude you from being honest?
his speaking aramaic proves he wasn't european, and that the religion wasn't european.
european religions include: Ancient Greek religion, Ancient Roman religion, Finnish paganism, Celtic polytheism, Germanic paganism, etc.
europeans adopted Christianity around 380 AD but was practiced in Egypt as early as 42 AD and in Ethiopia in 52 AD.
Christianity was practiced in Africa 2 centuries before it reached Europe, bit for some reason you all say its a european religion.
your understanding of world history is perverted by your hatred for church.
you're just mad cause your mother took you to church where they decided you were possessed and tried to beat the devil out your Black ass.
Does speaking English prove you are white?
really? So why was Constantine having councils on what dogma christian should believe in the year 325 AD so he could end the fighting and bickering amongst the christians?
Why was Rome the center of christianity in 70 AD?
you haven't proven a thing as you have not provided any evidence to support your religion.
you are crazy because you think things happened when they didn't.
no cannot accept simple logic, and defend logical fallacies even when they are explained to you.
you WANT to believe you're right, so you have dismissed all the physical evidence presented, dismissed the logical fallacies of your belief system, and makeup wholesale events that didn't happen.
you are not sane.
do you have any decency or honesty at all? why do you kep lying about this, or comforting yourself with the untruths you're telling yourself?
we are not debating religion, we are debating HISTORY.
i've provided you with the history books...you've provided me with very WEAK rhetoric.
can you not be HONEST about at least THAT?
or does your pathology preclude you from being honest?
Bruh, I provided you with just as many links in our last debate as you provided for me.
I am speaking of history. And the following facts cannot be denied.
1. The majority of slaves brought here were not xtians nor did they speak English.
2. Slaves were not permitted to practice their native religions.
3. Most white slave owners and most white people that didn't own slaves were xtians.
4. Eventually slaves and free black people were encouraged to accept xtianity.
his speaking aramaic proves he wasn't european, and that the religion wasn't european.
european religions include: Ancient Greek religion, Ancient Roman religion, Finnish paganism, Celtic polytheism, Germanic paganism, etc.
europeans adopted Christianity around 380 AD but was practiced in Egypt as early as 42 AD and in Ethiopia in 52 AD.
Christianity was practiced in Africa 2 centuries before it reached Europe, bit for some reason you all say its a european religion.
your understanding of world history is perverted by your hatred for church.
Wait, wasn't Paul a Roman citizen? How the fuck could he be spreading that shit in Rome in 40-60AD and it not reach Europe into two centuries later?
I understand you dont believe but dont stop anyone else. Many people know God/ Jesus works in them. So who are you to tell them to stop? Also, if you have an alternative what is it? Do you have an afterlife for these people you consider crazy for believing in an imaginary man called Jesus
God says there are no non believers. There are believers and those that attempt to suppress the belief. It's so obvious with this clown.
God said what?
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