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Are lead tablets discovered in a remote cave in Jordan the secret writings about the last years of Jesus?

Artefacts discovered in a remote cave in Jordan could hold a contemporary account of the last years of Jesus.
The find of scrolls and 70 lead codices - tiny credit-card-sized volumes containing ancient Hebrew script talking of the Messiah and the Resurrection - has excited biblical scholars.
Much of the writing is in code, but experts have deciphered images, symbols and a few words and the texts could be 2,000 years old.

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A 16th century painting depicting Jesus's death. The texts found in Jordan, if genuine, would be among the earliest Christian writings. The 70 codices are said to contain passages in ancient Hebrew about Jesus and the Resurrection



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Margaret Barker, former president of the Society of Old Testament Study, is wary of confirming their authenticity but added that if genuine then the books could be 'vital and unique' evidence of the earliest Christians

Some academics are sceptical about the discovery because there have been numerous hoaxes and sophisticated fakes produced over the years.

Many of the codices are sealed which suggests that they could be secret writings referred to in the apocryphal Book of Ezra - an appendage to some versions of the Bible.
Texts have been written on little sheets of lead bound together with wire.
The treasure trove was found five years ago by an Israeli Bedouin and may have been around since the 1st century, around the time of Jesus's crucifixion and Resurrection.


A number of experts have examined the writings, including Margaret Barker, a former president of the Society for Old testament Study with a renowned knowledge of early Christian studies.
She told the Sunday Times how the intrigue surrounding the artefacts was similar to the black market secrecy with the discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls.

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The artefacts were found in a remote cave in the north of Jordan. They are now in the possession of a Bedouin who lives in Israel


There is a thriving market in Middle Eastern antiquities and many shadowy figures involved. One archeologist has allegedly received death threats.
SHEPHERD'S DISCOVERY WHICH UNEARTHED A TREASURE TROVE


The Dead Sea Scrolls, counted among the most important archaeological finds of the modern era, were discovered in a cave by a Bedouin shepherd in the West Bank.
The scrolls consist of 30,000 separate fragments making up 900 manuscripts of biblical texts and religious writings from the time of Jesus.
The fragile parchment and papyrus fragments have been the subject of intense study for more than half a century by an international team of scholars who are still trying to understand the significance of some 30 per cent of the texts which are not included in the Bible or any other previously known religious writings.
The scrolls include the earliest known copy of the Ten Commandments, an almost complete Book of Isaiah and many of the Psalms.
Some of the texts were damaged by well-intentioned restoration attempts since the 1950s that included the use of Sellotape, rice paper and perspex glue.


Ms Barker said: 'There has been lots of shenanigans. Vast sums of money have been mentioned with up to £250,000 being suggested as the price for just one piece.'
She has had access to photgraphs taken of the codices and scrolls, and is wary of confirming their authenticity.
But she said if the material is genuine then the books could be 'vital and unique' evidence of the earliest Christians.
'If they are a forgery, what are they are forgery of?' she said.' Most fakes are drawn from existing material, but there is nothing like this that I have seen.'
The owner of the cache is a Bedouin named Hassan Saeda who lives in the village of Um-al-Ghanam in the north of Israel,according to the Sunday Times. He is believed to have obtained them after they were discovered in northern Jordan.

Two samples were sent to a laboratory in England where they were examined by Peter Northover, head of the materials science-based archaeology group.
The verdict was inconclusive without more tests, but he said the composition was 'consistent with a range of ancient lead.'
However, Philip Davies, emeritus professor of biblical studies at Sheffield University is convinced the codices are genuine after studying one.
He has told colleagues privately that he believes the find is unlikely to have been forged, say the Sunday Times

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The remote desert caves in Israel which yielded The Dead Sea Scrolls. They were found between 1847 and 1956 hidden in pottery jars. Experts say the intrigue surrounding the artefacts is similar to the black market secrecy associated with discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls


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I just can't believe a society that is capable of Nuclear destruction still believes in a god-child birthed by a Virgin. :smh: :smh:
 
The difference is, Steve Jobs is real. Apple is real. The iPad is real and sold over 15 million copies. More than ALL of tablets combined! No secret there :D How you like THOSE COMMANDMENTS?

keep worshiping your almighty white man. :smh:
 
keep worshiping your almighty white man. :smh:

How the fuck you think you ended up worshiping Jesus? If the CAC slavemaster worshiped Thor your ass would be in here defending his ass. :smh: :smh:

I forgot, you the same cat that says Xtianity wasn't forced on an enslaved people. :smh:

No wait, you about to bring up some Xtians from Ethiopia.
 
...says the Jesus worshiper. :rolleyes:

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Jesus wasn't white.

some white folks decided to paint him that way to deify themselves.

according to the Bible they were wrong for that, as the scripture plainly states:

Deuteronomy 4:15 “But be very careful! You did not see the Lord’s form on the day he spoke to you from the heart of the fire at Mount Sinai. 16 So do not corrupt yourselves by making an idol in any form—whether of a man or a woman...

Deuteronomy 4:8 “You must not make for yourself an idol of any kind, or an image of anything in the heavens or on the earth or in the sea.

so please don't get it twisted...real Christians don't worship white men. thats for YOU to do.
 
GTFOOH quoting from a book made by some CAC's

Jesus wasn't white.

some white folks decided to paint him that way to deify themselves.

according to the Bible they were wrong for that, as the scripture plainly states:

Deuteronomy 4:15 “But be very careful! You did not see the Lord’s form on the day he spoke to you from the heart of the fire at Mount Sinai. 16 So do not corrupt yourselves by making an idol in any form—whether of a man or a woman...

Deuteronomy 4:8 “You must not make for yourself an idol of any kind, or an image of anything in the heavens or on the earth or in the sea.

so please don't get it twisted...real Christians don't worship white men. thats for YOU to do.
 
How the fuck you think you ended up worshiping Jesus? If the CAC slavemaster worshiped Thor your ass would be in here defending his ass. :smh: :smh:

I forgot, you the same cat that says Xtianity wasn't forced on an enslaved people. :smh:

No wait, you about to bring up some Xtians from Ethiopia.

hey, i already said i wasn't going to debate you, because you're crazy.

no, you really are.

you don't let things like actual TANGIBLE evidence, accessible WRITTEN history, first hand testimony, legal DOCUMENTS, NEWS ARTICLES, or any other proof that is considered valid IN COURT sway you from believing in the fairy tales YOU cannot prove with one whit of evidence.

Christianity in Africa
"Christianity in Africa is so old that it can be rightly described as an indigenous, traditional and African religion," says Dr. John Mbiti, author of the Early Church and Africa. The Egyptian Coptic Church in the Sudan and the Ethiopian Orthodox Church still exist today. The Copts played a leading role in the development of the early Christian church. They made their most important contribution to Christianity from the late A.D. 200's to the mid-300's, when a Copt, Anthony of Thebes, founded the early Christian monastic movement.

World Book Multimedia Encyclopedia (Copts heading) ©2001, World Book, Inc.

The idea that Christianity is a White or European religion is a myth fostered by the narrow memories of White racists, who do not distinguish between:

- cultural adherence to a religious doctrine
- and full-hearted commitment to Christ as rightful Lord of one's life.

The extent of one's "Christian" heritage is irrelevant in a faith that demands that each listener must personally accept Christ. Biblical Christianity teaches that Jesus is relevant to all peoples and not bound to Western cultural forms.

Ischei, Elizabeth A History of Christianity in Africa from Antiquity to the Present Lawrenceville, N.J. Africa World Press: Grand Rapids, Mich: 1995 Eerdmans.

One of the main reasons why masters did not want their slaves to become Christians involved the Bible. They feared that slaves might interpret the teachings of Jesus Christ as being in favour of equality. This was one of the main reasons why most plantation owners did what they could to stop their slaves from learning to read.

The Slave Trade (Religion and Slavery) taken from:Spartacus Internet Encyclopedia

Additionally, there was heated resistance to evangelizing among slaves. Black scholar C. Eric Lincoln tells us there were three principal reasons for this: "(1) the hearing of the gospel required time that could be economically productive; (2) slaves gathered together in a religious assembly might become conscious of their own strength and plot insurrections under cover of religious instruction; (3) there was an English tradition of long standing that once a slave became a Christian he could no longer be held a slave."

C. Eric Lincoln, "The Development of Black Religion in America," Review and Expositor 70 (Summer 1973):302. As quoted in the article: Black Theology, Black Power, and the Black Experience

your belief that Christianity was forced on slaves in the US is not only a LIE, it is completely UNPROVABLE.

ironically, that idea is the racist white man's ideology, and you have BELIEVED it hook line and sinker!

you believe what THE WHITE MAN TOLD YOU!

AND you BELIEVE it...with out a SHRED of EVIDENCE.

that sir, is called FAITH.

but the amazing thing is, your faith can EASILY be DISPROVED by US HISTORY, AND i have PROVIDED the proof!

but you laugh at US...

like i said...i'm not debating with you...cause you are INSANE.
 
you don't let things like actual TANGIBLE evidence, accessible WRITTEN history, first hand testimony, legal DOCUMENTS, NEWS ARTICLES, or any other proof that is considered valid IN COURT sway you from believing in the fairy tales YOU cannot prove with one whit of evidence.

I laughed. You have some evidence Jesus existed?
 
GTFOOH quoting from a book made by some CAC's

LMAO...wow...you're amazingly stupid.

the original Bible was written in Aramaic...which is ...wait for it...wait for it...an Afroasiatic language, it's the language Jesus spoke, and is spoken to this very day in GUESS WHERE...WEST AFRICA!
 
I love how they regardless of records of his geological location white people still insist on using the white image of jesus.

thats all i wanted to say
 
:lol: @ original bible.. it's just a collection of fables.

LMAO...wow...you're amazingly stupid.

the original Bible was written in Aramaic...which is ...wait for it...wait for it...an Afroasiatic language, it's the language Jesus spoke, and is spoken to this very day in GUESS WHERE...WEST AFRICA!
 
hey, i already said i wasn't going to debate you, because you're crazy.

no, you really are.

you don't let things like actual TANGIBLE evidence, accessible WRITTEN history, first hand testimony, legal DOCUMENTS, NEWS ARTICLES, or any other proof that is considered valid IN COURT sway you from believing in the fairy tales YOU cannot prove with one whit of evidence.

Christianity in Africa
"Christianity in Africa is so old that it can be rightly described as an indigenous, traditional and African religion," says Dr. John Mbiti, author of the Early Church and Africa. The Egyptian Coptic Church in the Sudan and the Ethiopian Orthodox Church still exist today. The Copts played a leading role in the development of the early Christian church. They made their most important contribution to Christianity from the late A.D. 200's to the mid-300's, when a Copt, Anthony of Thebes, founded the early Christian monastic movement.

World Book Multimedia Encyclopedia (Copts heading) ©2001, World Book, Inc.

The idea that Christianity is a White or European religion is a myth fostered by the narrow memories of White racists, who do not distinguish between:

- cultural adherence to a religious doctrine
- and full-hearted commitment to Christ as rightful Lord of one's life.

The extent of one's "Christian" heritage is irrelevant in a faith that demands that each listener must personally accept Christ. Biblical Christianity teaches that Jesus is relevant to all peoples and not bound to Western cultural forms.

Ischei, Elizabeth A History of Christianity in Africa from Antiquity to the Present Lawrenceville, N.J. Africa World Press: Grand Rapids, Mich: 1995 Eerdmans.

One of the main reasons why masters did not want their slaves to become Christians involved the Bible. They feared that slaves might interpret the teachings of Jesus Christ as being in favour of equality. This was one of the main reasons why most plantation owners did what they could to stop their slaves from learning to read.

The Slave Trade (Religion and Slavery) taken from:Spartacus Internet Encyclopedia

Additionally, there was heated resistance to evangelizing among slaves. Black scholar C. Eric Lincoln tells us there were three principal reasons for this: "(1) the hearing of the gospel required time that could be economically productive; (2) slaves gathered together in a religious assembly might become conscious of their own strength and plot insurrections under cover of religious instruction; (3) there was an English tradition of long standing that once a slave became a Christian he could no longer be held a slave."

C. Eric Lincoln, "The Development of Black Religion in America," Review and Expositor 70 (Summer 1973):302. As quoted in the article: Black Theology, Black Power, and the Black Experience

your belief that Christianity was forced on slaves in the US is not only a LIE, it is completely UNPROVABLE.

ironically, that idea is the racist white man's ideology, and you have BELIEVED it hook line and sinker!

you believe what THE WHITE MAN TOLD YOU!

AND you BELIEVE it...with out a SHRED of EVIDENCE.

that sir, is called FAITH.

but the amazing thing is, your faith can EASILY be DISPROVED by US HISTORY, AND i have PROVIDED the proof!

but you laugh at US...

like i said...i'm not debating with you...cause you are INSANE.

I'm insane?

We are typing this in the language of the CAC(I guess our ancestors had a choice in that matter too). We don't even speak the tongue of our ancestors and you think we have their religion? :smh:

You fail to mention the slavemasters didn't want the slaves practicing their NATIVE religions.

Humor me. Besides xtianity what other religions did the whites give our ancestors to "choose" from?



 
Kats kill me trying to mske people not believe in Jesus. What place do you have for them after death?

If any adult came up to me and said they believed in imaginary people that talked to them... I'd try to get them some help. I owe the same favor to those who believe in an imaginary man called Jesus.
 
:lol: @ original bible.. it's just a collection of fables.
You know this for sure how?

Granted some stuff is lost in translation, some stuff may be misinterpreted and viewed differently, but unless you were there for sure you can't really state it as a fact. That's why it's FAITH.

The whole Christianity being pushed upon slaves is interesting because the Christianity that was 'pushed' upon slaves was perverted to maintain power.

Religion is a very powerful thing. It can be used to achieve greatness or it can be used to oppress people. Those who don't realize it and think there's only negativity attached to religion are the truly ignorant.
 
If any adult came up to me and said they believed in imaginary people that talked to them... I'd try to get them some help. I owe the same favor to those who believe in an imaginary man called Jesus.

I understand you dont believe but dont stop anyone else. Many people know God/ Jesus works in them. So who are you to tell them to stop? Also, if you have an alternative what is it? Do you have an afterlife for these people you consider crazy for believing in an imaginary man called Jesus:rolleyes:
 
Divine said:
:lol: @ original bible.. it's just a collection of fables.

I apply a little common sense to the matter. Snakes don't talk. People don't walk on water. Virgins don't give birth. There is no 'eternal fire'. No evidence of turning water to wine. No evidence of Moses parting a sea let alone turning it to blood. You know.. things like that, that are found in the bible. :rolleyes:

You know this for sure how?

Granted some stuff is lost in translation, some stuff may be misinterpreted and viewed differently, but unless you were there for sure you can't really state it as a fact. That's why it's FAITH.

The whole Christianity being pushed upon slaves is interesting because the Christianity that was 'pushed' upon slaves was perverted to maintain power.

Religion is a very powerful thing. It can be used to achieve greatness or it can be used to oppress people. Those who don't realize it and think there's only negativity attached to religion are the truly ignorant.
 
I understand you dont believe but dont stop anyone else. Many people know God/ Jesus works in them. So who are you to tell them to stop? Also, if you have an alternative what is it? Do you have an afterlife for these people you consider crazy for believing in an imaginary man called Jesus:rolleyes:

Like I said, if an adult told me they believed in imaginary people that talk to them, I'd get them help. Its the least I can do for them.
 
I laughed. You have some evidence Jesus existed?

that which you highlighted was in reference to the myth that Christianity was forced on slaves by white slave owners.

US history says that slave owners DID NOT want slaves to become Christians, because it brought up social, economic and equality issues that they did not wish to address.

you dont actually read anything that doesnt have to do with Apple, do you?

as for your question, Josephus, a SECULAR historian testifies to the existence of Jesus.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,905859,00.html
 
I apply a little common sense to the matter. Snakes don't talk. People don't walk on water. Virgins don't give birth. There is no 'eternal fire'. No evidence of turning water to wine. No evidence of Moses parting a sea let alone turning it to blood. You know.. things like that, that are found in the bible. :rolleyes:
You know what? That is perfectly fine though.

The thing is, ultimately you feel religion should be abolished, or that there's something wrong with people who have a religion.

In the end, you're doing what you feel religious people are doing. Pushing something on them.

I have yet to see one person on this board push religion on you, what I see are people speaking their point of view in regards to your tone towards them and religion.

You believe what you believe, that's fine. It's not for you? That's fine.

But to call people nuts, to call it a myth, and to insult others? Not fine. People will respect your non belief if you respected their belief, as nutty as you think it may be.

Look at someone like exiledking. He shares your belief, but he goes about it in a manner where he's still respecting the choices and beliefs of others.

You just come across vitriolic.
 
They are NUTS! It is a MYTH.

You know what? That is perfectly fine though.

The thing is, ultimately you feel religion should be abolished, or that there's something wrong with people who have a religion.

In the end, you're doing what you feel religious people are doing. Pushing something on them.

I have yet to see one person on this board push religion on you, what I see are people speaking their point of view in regards to your tone towards them and religion.

You believe what you believe, that's fine. It's not for you? That's fine.

But to call people nuts, to call it a myth, and to insult others? Not fine. People will respect your non belief if you respected their belief, as nutty as you think it may be.

Look at someone like exiledking. He shares your belief, but he goes about it in a manner where he's still respecting the choices and beliefs of others.

You just come across vitriolic.
 
Like I said, if an adult told me they believed in imaginary people that talk to them, I'd get them help. Its the least I can do for them.

You are only convincing the weak-minded and fence walkers not to believe but you still dont give good reasoning.
 
Jesus wasn't white.

so please don't get it twisted...real Christians don't worship white men. thats for YOU to do.
*sigh*



I am all for people believing or worshiping Christ (the anointed one) ... Bhudda, science, technology or what have you because I know it has some real world value .... and life is a journey not a destination ... but for crying out loud do your research/homework gatdamnit
:lol:
 
Personally, I think its the people who dont believe. You cant explain away God's existence if you spoke non stop for the rest of your life.


I don;t have to explain away something that does not exist. The burden rests with those claiming it does exist.
 
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