if it wasn't a forgone conclusion that Cena was going to win at Mania, Miz would really be making this interesting, he's carrying this whole match cuz frankly Cena sucks at everything
 
Cena has obviously never been in a rap battle, you're supposed to drop the mike and let the crowd tell you that you're the winner. This fool has declared himself the winner twice and both have been some extremely homo freestyles:puke:
 
"...when I smack that Rock bottom."

Really? You gone roll with that?

Biz Markie wouldn't have said no shit like that.
 
Real talk McGee....Spoonie Gee wouldn't have said no sodomite shit like that! Cena is trash. I see why he stopped the rappin' gimmick. That shit worked in 2002-2003. He's corny as hell.
 
"I'mma do hip-hop..."

The only good part was the shirt and it probably wasn't his idea.

A pearl necklace?

Man...

Chubb Rock wouldn't have said no shit like that.
 
PAUSE......John Cena....


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I wouldn't say that. That move was a move Sting had done countless times and very often on Rude. This was as much a freak accident as the injury that put out Shawn Michaels in the casket match with the Undertaker.

You're right about that.He had done the move before and it was an accident.Thing is, with the layout of the outside either the move shouldn't have been done or done elsewhere such as closer to the ring.
Thank you Orton for taking out Otunga, hope that's the last we see of him.

I'm sick of the Superman shit that they always have Cena and Orton pull off. And amongst the faces it's just those 2 that the WWE has do that.And coincidentally they are also the 2 faces who people are the most sick of.
 
It was good seeing JBL and the thing with Stone Cold was great.Crazy seeing JBL almost get cracked by a flying beer.

Cena absolutely sucked. He and a few idiots may think that that was the "knockout" blow but that corny as hell and just purely wack. Miz was much better than Cena tonight and he damn near was a face in my eyes after the Cena debacle.
 
Hell yeah.

You made me think, Austin never was protrayed as a dominant heel except during the brief time he teamed with HHH. When he first went the "Stone Cold" route, he lost all the time to Bret and Undertaker. Then when he was leader of the Alliance, he couldn't handle Kurt Angle.
The only dominant heels the WWWF/WWF/WWE has ever produced where Yokozuna, Taker, and HHH. Even guys like Shawn Michaels and Randy Savage looked weak as heels.
They just don't do strong heels in that company as a practice. This current era is just the worst ever as far as making top heels.

:itsawrap:

To me that's the golden era of the WWF...Taker was a MONSTER heel when he first came. I use to go see dude every Friday night at the Sportatorium w/ Percy Pringle, then he went to wcw for a failed run, but when debuted as the Taker:smh:

Yokozuna was a great dominant heel because he was soo fucking massive...made him hard to beat. As a Bret Hart stan, I went to WM9 to watch him cheat Bret out the title...shit pissed me off, they should've gave him the strap cleanly. Then how they hoe'd him to Hulk was bitchmade, but that "Hulkamania is dead" mag cover from KOR '93 is one of the greatest covers from any magazine.
 
Cena absolutely sucked. He and a few idiots may think that that was the "knockout" blow but that corny as hell and just purely wack. Miz was much better than Cena tonight and he damn near was a face in my eyes after the Cena debacle.

I loved when cena said "rock didn't win this" because at that point you could tell he knew he fucked up. You don't challenge the best if you're not ready now that's something rock needs to put on a t-shirt next time he's on raw.
 
IMO all the promos have been trash. The Rock talking about how he's never leaving again and then does all his shit via satellite, Cena's cornball rhymes and The Miz pretty much being ignored and barely making any noise in this whole wack ass Taco Bell grade beef.

I was actually gonna check out WM27 when I heard The Rock was gona be involved but after these horrible promos, I don't think I'm gonna even download it.
 
You're right about that.He had done the move before and it was an accident.Thing is, with the layout of the outside either the move shouldn't have been done or done elsewhere such as closer to the ring.

In hindsight, definitely. But they were just doing their normal stuff and didn't take the elevated platform into account. I think at the time, Rick Rude might have been the best wrestler in the business and it just ended.


I'm sick of the Superman shit that they always have Cena and Orton pull off. And amongst the faces it's just those 2 that the WWE has do that.And coincidentally they are also the 2 faces who people are the most sick of.

WWE loves super babyfaces. Austin used to stun a half dozen guys at a time and it used to irk the shit out of me. It's been ridiculous with Cena and now Orton's the same. Neither of them puts anyone over (not their fault) and it holds back the entire company.

:itsawrap:

To me that's the golden era of the WWF...Taker was a MONSTER heel when he first came. I use to go see dude every Friday night at the Sportatorium w/ Percy Pringle, then he went to wcw for a failed run, but when debuted as the Taker:smh:

Yokozuna was a great dominant heel because he was soo fucking massive...made him hard to beat. As a Bret Hart stan, I went to WM9 to watch him cheat Bret out the title...shit pissed me off, they should've gave him the strap cleanly. Then how they hoe'd him to Hulk was bitchmade, but that "Hulkamania is dead" mag cover from KOR '93 is one of the greatest covers from any magazine.

A really fun time. I didn't buy into the Undertaker at first because I still had "Mean" Mark Callous in my recent memory but when he started no-selling for Hogan and Warrior and took the belt off Hogan at Survivor Series 91, he made me a fan.
Someone, hopefully HHH, will remember that the only way your faces really get over is if they have strong heels. Hogan had Piper, Orndorff, Savage, and Andre. Bret had Yoko, Owen, Shawn, Austin and Jerry Lawler. Shawn didn't draw as champ because they never let any heels get heat. The one heel that got real heat on Cena was Batista and the Nexus and each of them got jobbed out every time afterward.

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"John Cena, your ass is whack and you're fucking gay!":thefinger::thefinger::thefinger::itsawrap:


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: to this and all the old school references. Chubb Rock???!!!!!:lol::lol:
 
CM Punk wearing the i bring it via satellite t-shirt is an eye roller, he's looking like a jobber against orton and yet he's sticking his nose in other peoples business. Also is it just me or does punk look more like a white supremacist every single week:lol:
 
IMO all the promos have been trash. The Rock talking about how he's never leaving again and then does all his shit via satellite.

No need to exaggerate. He has done ONE promo via satellite, and the other live. He has been there for a total of 2 appearances at this point. The crowd was solidly behind him both times (and even a bit when it was just Cena out there).
 
Hey, isn't anyone going to say WWE is ripping off TNA by bringing in the Jersey Shore whore? Props to them for getting the top whore, though.:D
 
All the Rock has to do is pull some of those Real World episodes where the Miz is crying to shut him up



that dude (dont really kno who he is) was on the real world?? :confused:




ok Cena is gay: how do you tell a dude you're gonna give him a pearl necklace.

That was SO not hip-hop.

Kool Moe Dee wouldn't have said no shit like that.


"...when I smack that Rock bottom."

Really? You gone roll with that?

Biz Markie wouldn't have said no shit like that.

How ANYONE can co-sign Cena after Monday night is beyond me. :smh:



seriously. :smh::smh::smh: i STILL cant believe that fool said that shit. wowwwwwww. a pearl necklace man?? REALLY? a week and THATS wat u come up with?? if thats wat they teach in "thuganomics" im glad i never took the course :hmm:

:lol: @ mcgee. boy u a fool.

cena must have a secret man-crush on the rock. :smh:


 
WWE loves super babyfaces. Austin used to stun a half dozen guys at a time and it used to irk the shit out of me. It's been ridiculous with Cena and now Orton's the same. Neither of them puts anyone over (not their fault) and it holds back the entire company.

Thing is that both Austin and The Rock had their asses handed to them way more than Cena or Orton and maybe it's not coincidence that both were way more over than Cena or Orton.They were more realistic and not simply killing their opponents every week to the point that they made the heels not look credible.

A really fun time. I didn't buy into the Undertaker at first because I still had "Mean" Mark Callous in my recent memory but when he started no-selling for Hogan and Warrior and took the belt off Hogan at Survivor Series 91, he made me a fan.
Someone, hopefully HHH, will remember that the only way your faces really get over is if they have strong heels. Hogan had Piper, Orndorff, Savage, and Andre. Bret had Yoko, Owen, Shawn, Austin and Jerry Lawler. Shawn didn't draw as champ because they never let any heels get heat. The one heel that got real heat on Cena was Batista and the Nexus and each of them got jobbed out every time afterward.

I had the same problem.While I liked him in the NWA it was weird seeing him doing the Undertaker gimmick not too long after watching him challenge Lex Luger for the U.S. Title.At that point I was used to seeing guys not only switch companies but present themselves completely different as well.

Great point about the role of heels but I doubt that they will heed it as long as McMahon is in charge. It seems like all they care about is making them look like Superman to the kids so they can sell more T-shirts. And the sad thing is that Punk could easily be considered the best heel in the business right now but they're so busy jobbing out his factions,making them look like trash that it effects his standing as well. And in the case of Nexus it involves young guys who are just starting out.Just like they've done with the Corre,just like they did with Brodus Clay last nite and just like they've done with almost all the young heels who have come up with the exceptions of Drew McIntyre and Sheamus.
 
Dave.it's all stupid.

But, I guess they are ripping them off

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Thanks. I was just bullshitting, though. It is all stupid but if it works for them, good for them.:D

Thing is that both Austin and The Rock had their asses handed to them way more than Cena or Orton and maybe it's not coincidence that both were way more over than Cena or Orton.They were more realistic and not simply killing their opponents every week to the point that they made the heels not look credible.

Yep. Austin made Mick Foley look like a strong contender several times and took several ass whoopings before ultimately winning. Rock put over HHH several times. It's classic Marvel-style comic book storytelling: the villain should be stronger than the hero so it looks like the hero overcomes. The most over Cena has been was in his feuds with Batista and when he was forced to join The Nexus. Each time he looked like the underdog even though we all knew he was going to win and it actually got him over to some of the fans that normally boo the shit out of him. Now they're booking Orton like that and, combined with his deteriorating work in the ring, it's killing him. Right now, the RKO is HUGELY over but how long before he starts to turn off a large segment of fans. They might not boo him like they do Cena, they'll just stop watching, which is even worse for WWE.



I had the same problem.While I liked him in the NWA it was weird seeing him doing the Undertaker gimmick not too long after watching him challenge Lex Luger for the U.S. Title.At that point I was used to seeing guys not only switch companies but present themselves completely different as well.
I was too. By 90, I was used to guys I had seen for years in the NWA, AWA, World Class and others adopt completely different gimmicks in the WWF. Mark Callous went from a mid carder to a HoFer with a gimmick switch. Same with Kevin Nash as first Oz/Vinnie Vegas to Diesel.


Great point about the role of heels but I doubt that they will heed it as long as McMahon is in charge. It seems like all they care about is making them look like Superman to the kids so they can sell more T-shirts.

Which is short sighted and ignores their own history. The WWF made a ton of money being PG in the 80s but they did it while still being interesting to those fans over 10. McMahon needs people who will stand up to him or that he respects, Russo was the former, Pat Patterson was the latter.


And the sad thing is that Punk could easily be considered the best heel in the business right now but they're so busy jobbing out his factions,making them look like trash that it effects his standing as well. And in the case of Nexus it involves young guys who are just starting out.Just like they've done with the Corre,just like they did with Brodus Clay last nite and just like they've done with almost all the young heels who have come up with the exceptions of Drew McIntyre and Sheamus.

I like Christian but I can't believe they had Brodus Clay job out to him in his first match on Raw.
I hate how they keep killing Punk's groups after good initial pushes. First SES and now the New Nexus. They don't just get beat but the Orton Punt has been booked to put guys on the shelf for months. Taking young guys that need work off the road and out of the ring is a MAJOR mistake.
McIntyre and Sheamus both had great debuts but both of them have had extended losing streaks. Why are they jobbing out McIntyre to Edge now instead of waiting until after Mania? Who did Sheamus piss off? He's doing jobs to Mark Henry and Evan Bourne for crying out loud.
 
McIntyre and Sheamus both had great debuts but both of them have had extended losing streaks. Why are they jobbing out McIntyre to Edge now instead of waiting until after Mania? Who did Sheamus piss off? He's doing jobs to Mark Henry and Evan Bourne for crying out loud.

Apparently McIntyre had some attitude issues which turned people off so much so that he didn't win Money in the Bank.The story is that he was to win that and then get a title run but it didn't happen and it went to Swagger instead.
As for Sheamus as someone I believe already mentioned here Kevin Dunn who is the #2 guy in WWE behind Vince McMahon isn't a fan and came up with the King Sheamus gimmick and is responsible for the losing streak. We see guys regularly get released because creative can't come up with something for the talent to do which leads to them losing their job.Or creative can't come up with anything half decent which leads to them not getting over and then getting released.But here we have a company higher using his time and creativity to come up with a way to bury a guy who in less than a year had captured the WWE title twice and gotten over.
 
Or creative can't come up with anything half decent which leads to them not getting over and then getting released.But here we have a company higher using his time and creativity to come up with a way to bury a guy who in less than a year had captured the WWE title twice and gotten over.

Speaking of guys who were given a shitty gimmick and then released here is Colt Cabana aka Scotty Goldman who won the NWA title this past weekend.


 
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