Utah Jazz: The Truth Is Out, Deron Williams Compares Jerry Sloan to His Grandma

[Uncontainable_Spirit]

Wow.

This story just keeps getting worse and worse for Jazz fans.

As more time passes since the resignation of Utah Jazz coach Jerry Sloan, the more truths are beginning to trickle out regarding his fractured relationship with star guard Deron Williams.

During an All-Star weekend interview, D-Will spoke out about the disconnect between himself and coach Sloan.

"I'm 26, Coach Sloan is 69. That's a big difference; different eras, different generations. There's bound to be something.

"I can't just go and have the same conversation with my grandma that I would have with my friend. It's nothing bad; it's just how it is, and I think Coach Corbin is younger and has kids our age, so I think that helps a little bit."

Williams continued to talk about Jazz new head coach Ty Corbin.

"I've been around Coach Corbin for six years. He's been an assistant under Jerry and he's got a lot of the same characteristics that coach Sloan did, because he's been here and under, you know, the same system. He's a little younger and can relate a little better to us as players."

Wow, let me translate that for you: "I can control Ty Corbin."

I don't know how much more evidence Jazz fans need to realize that it was D-Will who pushed Jerry Sloan out the door.

I'm also disappointed in GM Kevin O'Connor who pinned all of this on Jerry Sloan, saying that all was well between D-Will and Sloan, and that Sloan just got tired all of a sudden and decided to move on.

Pathetic.

This whole thing has been created by D-Will with the support of O'Connor.

I'm so disappointed in the Jazz organization right now. Why wasn't D-Will honest about this the day after Jerry resigned?

All I heard form D-Will then was how great he thought Jerry was, and how disappointed he was that he was resigning.

Now what I'm hearing from Deron is that talking to Coach Sloan was like talking to his Grandma?

Are you kidding me?

But talking to Ty Corbin is like talking to your friend?

So I guess D-Will didn't consider Jerry Sloan a friend?

And what in the hell could Deron not open up to Sloan about? This isn't Cub Scouts. It's professional basketball.

Utah Jazz owner Greg Miller needs to get control of his franchise, because as I pointed out in this article, the ship is sinking.

Miller can start by firing O'Connor, and then figuring out the best way to get the most trade value out of current head coach Deron Williams.

Yes, I did mean to say that, because D-Will is coaching this team.

This is a sad day for Jazz fans, truly sad.

And for the record, Coach Williams is 0-3.

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[shaddyvillethug]

Fuck the jazz Nigga

Ain't no instruments in utah

 

[UltimateLurker]

Ain't no jazz fans on bgol OP, dudes don't give a damn

 

[Uncontainable_Spirit]

Huh?

 

[Uncontainable_Spirit]

Ain't no jazz fans on bgol OP, dudes don't give a damn

Maybe I should have changed the title. I'm just really trippin' on how Deron Williams thinks the way he's behaved during this as well as the way that front office has handled the situation is cool.

Deron should sit down and have a conversation with Bill Walton.

Bill came to UCLA as a hippie when the world was being turned upside down... Who did he run into? Coach John Wooden - who was in his 60's and set in his ways.

Guess what happened. The kid learned to respect and even love Coach Wooden. In fact, Coach Wooden had such a great impact on Bill's life that he raised his 4 sons the same way Wooden Coached. Old School.

IMO, Deron is a good player but in this situation he showed his immaturity.

 

[TheyCallMeBe]

See this is the kind of subjective journalism that I'm talking about. D Will said that Corbin can relate to the players a bit better because he is younger and the writer translates that to he can control Corbin?

 

[aek_54]

See this is the kind of subjective journalism that I'm talking about. D Will said that Corbin can relate to the players a bit better because he is younger and the writer translates that to he can control Corbin?

I agree.
The writer seems to have an axe to grind with D-Will.

 

[tuckdog]

See this is the kind of subjective journalism that I'm talking about. D Will said that Corbin can relate to the players a bit better because he is younger and the writer translates that to he can control Corbin?

Exactly. The reporter was reaching hard.

 

[Uncontainable_Spirit]

See this is the kind of subjective journalism that I'm talking about. D Will said that Corbin can relate to the players a bit better because he is younger and the writer translates that to he can control Corbin?

While I can agree with you to a degree that it was a reach from the perspective of the author, I've never heard of any of Jerry Sloan's players saying that Jerry didn't relate well to them. That's just an 'interesting' thing to say.

 

[TheyCallMeBe]

While I can agree with you to a degree that it was a reach from the perspective of the author, I've never heard of any of Jerry Sloan's players saying that Jerry didn't relate well to them. That's just an 'interesting' thing to say.

I don't think any of the other current players are even worthy of interviewing.
As far as the legends, Stockton and Malone are notoriously old school. The bottom line is that Sloan was slipping and not working as hard as he should by not preparing his players to win(no film study, light practices, etc.). As a leader that wants to win, I can blame D Will for being vocal on certain things. He has been very tactful in the interviews that I've read, though.

 

[Brother Blues]

D Will be out of there in a bit,and there will be no reason to ever mention the Utah Jazz again.

 

[D-TOWN REP]

Fuck the jazz Nigga

Ain't no instruments in utah

icb

 

[Uncontainable_Spirit]

Quote from Deron Williams:

“It sucks. I didn’t think he would ever retire in the middle of the season,” Williams said. “I watched the press conference and he said it was his time.”

Williams then took a swipe at reporters claming that he had a role in Sloan’s departure. “All those guys, Ric Bucher, Chris Broussard, they’re all in our locker room everyday,” Williams deadpanned. “I’ll let them report what they want to report, that’s what they are paid to do. That’s why I’m always short and rude with the media, because they’re your friend. Ric comes in and sits by me every time I see him, acts like he’s my friend, but the day they find something they want to spin, they jump on it. That’s why I am the way I am and will continue to be the way I am.”

Williams denied a report that he had approached Jazz management saying that he wouldn’t re-sign with the team when he’s a free agent if Sloan was still the head coach. “That’s not true. I would never force coach Sloan out of Utah. He’s meant more to this town and organization than I have by far. It’s not my place.”​

Maybe i'm old school or jaded and that's why i'm not feeling Deron Williams on this one. I’m pretty sure Sloan is wearing his John Deere cap, enjoying a beer and not giving a fuck about anything right about now. Here’s wishing him the best.

 

[Duece]

D Will be out of there in a bit,and there will be no reason to ever mention the Utah Jazz again.

Wow, the NBA really should retract most of it's teams.

 

[Duece]

Fuck the jazz Nigga

Ain't no instruments in utah

 

[Big Tex]

OP, you just need to take the L on this one.

Shit was bullshit.

 

[Brother Blues]

Wow, the NBA really should retract most of it's teams.

Not most,but some...

Would anyone really miss the Jazz,except people in Utah...

Or the T-Wolves,the Bobcats,the Kings...the Clippers,teams with no history...or hope.

 

[CUB2006]

Wow, the NBA really should retract most of it's teams.

I agree..

 

[Duece]

Not most,but some...

Would anyone really miss the Jazz,except people in Utah...

Or the T-Wolves,the Bobcats,the Kings...the Clippers,teams with no history...or hope.

Well let the Bobcats rechristen themselves as the Hornets and let the Hornets rechristen themselves as the Jazz.

 

[Uncontainable_Spirit]

I don't think any of the other current players are even worthy of interviewing.
As far as the legends, Stockton and Malone are notoriously old school. The bottom line is that Sloan was slipping and not working as hard as he should by not preparing his players to win(no film study, light practices, etc.). As a leader that wants to win, I can blame D Will for being vocal on certain things. He has been very tactful in the interviews that I've read, though.

“The player isn’t always wrong,” one respected GM said Thursday.

No one wants to hear that with Sloan, one of the greatest ever, but no one thinks stars are dying to play for him anymore. Everyone respects, admires Sloan, and has a hard time thinking about an NBA without him. Yet, it is hard to coach without a partnership with your best players, and Sloan hasn’t had that in a long, long time. Everyone can make Williams the scapegoat because of some ideal that Sloan represents – and he does represent the best ideals of basketball.

Yet, this is an unmerciful sport where talent trumps everything, where the best players always beat the best coaches. He’s lost most of his star players, and eventually Williams will leave the Jazz in 2012 the way small-market stars are leaving everywhere else. They’ve been a model franchise, disciplined in drafts and trades, but they’re no longer a contender. This ate at Williams, and it made for a combustible environment in Salt Lake City.

Hmmmm... interesting article all the way around. LINK

 

[Uncontainable_Spirit]

OP, you just need to take the L on this one.

Shit was bullshit.

I don't understand. Take the "L" for what? I think the whole situation is interesting.

 

[Uncontainable_Spirit]

“He’s the best coach I’ve ever played for in terms of his technical ability. And without a doubt, he’s the worst the person I’ve ever met in my entire life, in terms of dealing with people. Jerry raged against players whom he thought didn’t play hard enough, claiming they were undermining coaches across the league. If we lost two or three in a row, he would stride into practice yelling, ‘You (expletives) are trying to get me fired. I’m not losing my job because you guys aren’t hustling.’ During one of these job-insecurity diatribes, Karl (Malone) looked at me and smirked, ‘If only we were so lucky.’ Then he went back to the posture he’d long ago adopted: working diligently on his game while pretending Jerry didn’t exist.”

- John Amaechi

 

[Big Tex]

I don't understand. Take the "L" for what? I think the whole situation is interesting.

You're in here trying to hype up something that wasn't a big deal at all.

 

[fatsack1]

Fuck the jazz Nigga

Ain't no instruments in utah

Fucking classic....!!!!

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[The Pope]

hell does it even matter ??? Williams will be gone out of Utah next season.

 

[BGLR1212000]

See this is the kind of subjective journalism that I'm talking about. D Will said that Corbin can relate to the players a bit better because he is younger and the writer translates that to he can control Corbin?

Same thing I said

 

[UltimateLurker]

You're in here trying to hype up something that wasn't a big deal at all.

reminds me a lot of those useless cowboys threads you post on here

 

[Oracle21]

he will look good in a Knicks Uniform

 

[malaki]

Maybe I should have changed the title. I'm just really trippin' on how Deron Williams thinks the way he's behaved during this as well as the way that front office has handled the situation is cool.

Deron should sit down and have a conversation with Bill Walton.

Bill came to UCLA as a hippie when the world was being turned upside down... Who did he run into? Coach John Wooden - who was in his 60's and set in his ways.

Guess what happened. The kid learned to respect and even love Coach Wooden. In fact, Coach Wooden had such a great impact on Bill's life that he raised his 4 sons the same way Wooden Coached. Old School.

IMO, Deron is a good player but in this situation he showed his immaturity.

bill walton is a racist CAC he doesn't have jack shit to say to d will.

bottom line sloan is too old to relate to 20 somethings. everybody can cry about him getting fired all they want but the dude needed to go. he thought he can run the same exact offense for 20 years with no changes. FOH.

 

[Bruh In Law]

I don't ever remember Sloan leading them to a title,
Have he even got coach of the year before???
I give him props for being there like I gave coach k props for being in Duke so long.

But I don't think the Jazz would've won a ring with Sloan.

 

[Uncontainable_Spirit]

You're in here trying to hype up something that wasn't a big deal at all.

We may have a bit of a difference of opinion here. I think that whenever a man who has been coaching for 22 years for one team and has been in the NBA for 45 years leaves his team in the middle of the season it's kind of a big deal. Moreso than that however is the f act that it's very nuanced. I've just today started to read the articles on this topic and am seeing the patterns that are emerging. I simply think it's interesting. Not trying to hype anything up however.

 

[vandamation]

Maybe I should have changed the title. I'm just really trippin' on how Deron Williams thinks the way he's behaved during this as well as the way that front office has handled the situation is cool.

Deron should sit down and have a conversation with Bill Walton.

Bill came to UCLA as a hippie when the world was being turned upside down... Who did he run into? Coach John Wooden - who was in his 60's and set in his ways.

Guess what happened. The kid learned to respect and even love Coach Wooden. In fact, Coach Wooden had such a great impact on Bill's life that he raised his 4 sons the same way Wooden Coached. Old School.

IMO, Deron is a good player but in this situation he showed his immaturity.

Bill Walton... ...
FUCK BILL WALTON... who was one of the BIGGEST HYPOCRITES in ALL SPORTS...Bottom line... Jerry Sloan's time in Utah has run its course... Plain and simple...Since Deron has been on that team, all he's shown IS leadership... I NEVER heard any reports about his immaturity...

 

[slick]

Fuck the jazz Nigga

Ain't no instruments in utah

Ain't no jazz fans on bgol OP, dudes don't give a damn

 

[RunawaySlave]

Quote from Deron Williams:

“It sucks. I didn’t think he would ever retire in the middle of the season,” Williams said. “I watched the press conference and he said it was his time.”

Williams then took a swipe at reporters claming that he had a role in Sloan’s departure. “All those guys, Ric Bucher, Chris Broussard, they’re all in our locker room everyday,” Williams deadpanned. “I’ll let them report what they want to report, that’s what they are paid to do. That’s why I’m always short and rude with the media, because they’re your friend. Ric comes in and sits by me every time I see him, acts like he’s my friend, but the day they find something they want to spin, they jump on it. That’s why I am the way I am and will continue to be the way I am.”

Williams denied a report that he had approached Jazz management saying that he wouldn’t re-sign with the team when he’s a free agent if Sloan was still the head coach. “That’s not true. I would never force coach Sloan out of Utah. He’s meant more to this town and organization than I have by far. It’s not my place.”​

you just printed the whole reason for that story....
the media always protect their own interests (no matter how noble they pretend they are)

 

[Uncontainable_Spirit]

bill walton is a racist CAC he doesn't have jack shit to say to d will.

bottom line sloan is too old to relate to 20 somethings. everybody can cry about him getting fired all they want but the dude needed to go. he thought he can run the same exact offense for 20 years with no changes. FOH.

Whether Bill Walton is racist or not is immaterial. The similarities that these two, Bill and Deron, possess is that they were both young and had to relate to an individual who was much order. In Bill's instance he learned from the elder. In Deron's instance it seems as though he hasn't. I don't really know.

Your point about running the same offense for 20 years doesn't seem to stand up under scrutiny for one reason, the Triangle Offense. The Triangle is REALLY OLD.

Jerry Sloan's offense is the Pick and Roll offense. Or more precisely the 'Flex' offense that he learned first hand from Dick Motta and it has been around forever and it still works.