Are A Majority Of Women Lame When It Comes To Men?

[TheFuser]

Very good discussion. Interesting input by both sexes. Props to the ladies for chiming in. I know that can be rough on this board sometimes. With that said, I think it's a cop out when women use the "intimidation" line to not talk to a guy. Doesn't even have to be VERBAL talking. A smile from across the room. Eye contact that's ONE second too long. That's just as important as physically walking up to a man. If he doesn't pick up on that shit, either he doesn't wanna holla, or he's dumb as fuck. Either way, it wasn't meant to be.

I am blessed to know so many beautiful and educated sistas. Sistas who fight in corporate America with their male counterparts each day. Sistas who reject traditional gender roles... when it suits them, then play damsel in distress when they don't want to get their egos bruised. I call them on it all the time. Sistas who have no problem bruising male egos (most times it's necessary). With that said, the "i dont want to be too forward" shit goes out the window when it comes to approaching men. "Men aren't comfortable with a woman approaching" line is a rationalization. Any other time in their lives, they aren't concerned with making men comfortable. But when it comes to putting themselves on the line, and perhaps approaching a man, all of a sudden the male ego is the biggest concern. Makes absolutely zero sense.

I dont agree with the brothas who think money is the cure for this. Money is a function of the actual cure. Women are attracted to CONFIDENCE. Men who make money tend to be more confident (faux confidence a lot of times). Women who are ACTUALLY attracted to the money aint the type of women you really want around you anyway. There's a reason why visual artists, poets, musicians, etc have no problem with women approaching them. The expression of confidence artistically draws them in. Meanwhile, most times, artists struggle financially.

For the brothas who don't already do something similar, try this. Next time you're in a social setting, SMILE. Walk around with your head up. No ice grill. No trying to be super smooth. SMILE. Have the time of your life (even if the spot is boring). It's infectious. Women will notice that shit and spark conversation with YOU.

 

[Shaq06]

Ungh hungh... Whatever you wanna tell yourself to justify that most females are so insecure that they wont approach because of the chance the guy may not be interested... Or that most females are indeed... BORING. So they dont know what to say to guy to gain his attention for longer than a glimpse to size her up. Most females are just good at looking good and little else.

 

[ArsenalCannon357]

its "women choose, men accept"...the "chase" is nothing but a man letting woman know that she has been accepted before she chose him...and many men will accept another woman at the same time as well,women can choose all day long but if the men are not accepting it will be in vain...

checkout any bitter and desperate chick over 30 for confirmation...

they totally missed this........

 

[Laughing Man]

herewithliz, you’re confused. What you fail to understand is that most men don’t want the same thing. One can easily find what could be called a generic american chick but you would have to try hard to find a generic american man. Men are less uniform in just about every way. The world requires us to specialize in just about everything we do, both professionally and personally. Do you want to be a doctor or a lawyer. A bodybuilder or a runner. A soldier or a sailor. Nearly every decision we make is one or the other. Do you want a runway model or a pinup? Women on the other hand tend to generalize. Any rich man will do. What kind of doctor does a man want to be? Pick one. What kind of doctor does a woman want to marry? A dentist or an endocrinologist? How about a lawyer? Or an entrepreneur? How about whoever she runs into first?

Men are specific in the kind of women we want as well. If generic american chick doesn’t do it for you, then you’re screwed. Occasionally I’ll meet someone who looks like Christina Hendricks and the result is always the same. She ends up with some loser who wants her to be more generic instead of with me, a man that likes her as is. I’m 6’6 and workout so a chick like her is perfect for me. The problem is that she starts listening to someone like you and that ruins everything. Even if I can find a Christina-ish chick, it doesn’t matter because she mopes around hating herself and eventually me. Why? Her opinion of herself is low and I’m guilty by association. If she’s crap and I want her, then I must be even lower on the totem pole. People like you put that crap in their heads. It’s so bad that I can attract a bikini model easier than the girl next door even though I prefer the girls next door who massively outnumber the models.

Nobody wins when you tell people this crap. No man actually wants a generic chick. None! I can’t find a decent chick, she hates herself, and ends up competing with the same pool of generic females and vying for the attention of a man that doesn’t want her specifically. People like you are the reason why most american women are incapable of real genuine happiness. They sit around wondering why no man has chosen them but he has no reason to. Men don’t choose generic women, they just give up. I know a ton of guys stacking money to the ceiling who are still looking for the right woman and many are ready to give up and move overseas or just live alone for the rest of their lives. You are obviously incapable of following the male thought process so why don’t you leave it to the professionals, you know, people with fully functioning penises.

 

[ShortyCumStain]

*Place marker for later reading*

 

[RoomService]

Ask Patrick

 

[snark9]

I believe that what he said might be the end of the thread.

I can't speak for all women, but I believe evolution has something to do with our natural posture when it comes to letting men approach us. In the wild, no animal wants a wimp for a partner. You want someone who has guts. Guts enough to overcome normal fears, go out there and get, get, get it.

An easy way to weed out the gutless is to lay back and see who has the cajones to come to you.

He who hesitates is lost. Thanks Darwin.

funny how women play the evolution card when it comes to describing their expectations of our gender roles, but bawk at this same notion when people surmise ANYTHING similar when it comes to them.

how is that tactic working for ya btw, 45% never been, and 79% unmarried black woman? pathetic...

 

[ArsenalCannon357]

F.Forward to 2:35

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=544436688535

 

[oolong tea]

I agree with the OP for the most part, but, it's not all good when a woman approaches you. Those broads can be bat shit crazy. I'd rather be in the position of picking them instead of them picking me.

 

[4North1Side2]

I agree with the OP for the most part, but, it's not all good when a woman approaches you. Those broads can be bat shit crazy. I'd rather be in the position of picking them instead of them picking me.

You act like you don't have the power to refuse them...

 

[Ziongate]

Varied view points.Interesting

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

F.Forward to 2:35

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=544436688535

 

[mariano42]

True, but at the same time, 9 times out of 10, women that make the first move get the type of man they want. As a result, they have more promising relationships than women that dont. Women that are afraid to be the aggressors in situations, will always find themselves settling for men they dont want. As a collective, I dont think the woman's ego is built for rejection, so its unlikely that the majority of them can play that position, like men do.

co-sing on the red.

You make this statement. Are there any facts and figures on this? Do you have any statistics that say, women who approach males first have longer lasting, better relationships than women who were approached?

you can know this without stats.

if you sit down and think about it the majority of women that dont approach will date guys who approach them. females will have preferences and what are the odds of them meeting a guy who matches all(100percent) or 85 percent of their preference? very very slim. so when they meet a guy who atleast 50 percent or probably 40 percent of what they want(their preference) they're going to settle regardless. if not then they're going to be lonely for a long time.

that why whenever i heard women say he's my dream man i dont believe it. he's half or just a quarter of your dream guy.

like i said if a female dont approach a man shes dating guys or talking to guys who isnt near her preferences. if she rejects, she rejects but she's still going to involve herself with whatever comes her way instead of involving herself with WHAT SHE WANTS . majority of the times its women who are frustrated in the dating scene, most particularly the ones that dont approach.

i was looking at this chick i holler at in college 3 years ago twitter page and shes doing her masters. and if you ever see her tweets....
chic always talking and complaining about her attracting lame dudes and cutting dudes off. majority of her tweets is male bashing. shes clearly frustrated then a week ago she said something about VERBATIM
"I refuse to chase a nigga its so lame nowadays." VERBATIM I copied and pasted that shit. this is my point exactly, you always hearing females complaining about the dudes that approach them or hollering at them, rarely with men. this same chic talking about she want a nerdy guy, if a nerdy guy comes your way you'll probably reject him and what are the chances of a nerdy guy approaching you? u want a nerdy guy talk to a nerdy guy but your clearly not woman enough to do it.

and people got to stop this "its a mans job to approach he's the hunter" bullshit talk. its 2000 and fucking 11, stop living in the past time change, people change and society change. cavemen hunted back in the days today people hunt as a sport, we have farmers that raise cows and sell their meat in the markets .

plus most times i notice females say they want a male thats confidence its the same females who lack confidence themselves. if your going to demand something from a mate atleast have it yourself or a part of it. just saying

 

[mariano42]

F.Forward to 2:35

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=544436688535

interesting.

 

[Lucky7s]

I call it player syndrome. Women mess with players that just want some poontang and they become lazy. He so-calls "puts it on them" so they do not have to do much but let him do his thang. These women in turn can not do a proper seduction or present themselves to a man properly. I have seen so many of these chicks that it makes me sick.

Somebody speak more on this...
How would you teach your daughters to avoid this trap?

 

[Naha-Nago]

I call it player syndrome. Women mess with players that just want some poontang and they become lazy. He so-calls "puts it on them" so they do not have to do much but let him do his thang. These women in turn can not do a proper seduction or present themselves to a man properly. I have seen so many of these chicks that it makes me sick.

Damn there is a lot of truth in this...

*two cents*

 

[big pimp]

Ungh hungh... Whatever you wanna tell yourself to justify that most females are so insecure that they wont approach because of the chance the guy may not be interested... Or that most females are indeed... BORING. So they dont know what to say to guy to gain his attention for longer than a glimpse to size her up. Most females are just good at looking good and little else.

^^^

 

[BKF]

I hear a lot of niggas talking about having game and we had the whole Mouthpiece Vs. Looks disscusion. But am I the only one noticing that a lot of chicks have no mouthpiece whatsover and that their main game is just looking slutty and hoping a nigga come scoop them up and marry them. They seem to just wait for a dude to say something but some don't even know how to let a dude know that they feeling him. A lot of women expect that you know when she is ready. Women will not go out of their way like men do to find their ideal men. So I guess it's all on us niggas to go out here and open our mouth and holla.

correction

Those hoes are nothing but bypasses.

 

[darius_janus]

bump

 

[ArsenalCannon357]

bump

bump bump

 

[capcomq]

Women are born with vaginas. By default they are excluded from the approach because we have what they want. Couple that with ego, insecurity, and a lifetime of being put on the pedestal with the, "you're a queen, you're a princess, you don't have to work for shit" notion embedded in their brains, and there you have it. There's no need to present an approach, because 9 times out of 10 one will be provided.

The solution to this mental state? Money.

While it may seem shallow, it holds very true. It shakes the very foundation they're built on and nothing commands more respect than that. Get that paper, and they will approach. No matter how much they may not want to or know how.

Commander!

 

[Fuzzy_McNut]

bump

 

[Naha-Nago]

That shit cray,

*two cents*

 

[TurellSmith]

Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks

 

[(0_0)..l.. finger]

co-sing on the red.



you can know this without stats.

if you sit down and think about it the majority of women that dont approach will date guys who approach them. females will have preferences and what are the odds of them meeting a guy who matches all(100percent) or 85 percent of their preference? very very slim. so when they meet a guy who atleast 50 percent or probably 40 percent of what they want(their preference) they're going to settle regardless. if not then they're going to be lonely for a long time.

that why whenever i heard women say he's my dream man i dont believe it. he's half or just a quarter of your dream guy.

like i said if a female dont approach a man shes dating guys or talking to guys who isnt near her preferences. if she rejects, she rejects but she's still going to involve herself with whatever comes her way instead of involving herself with WHAT SHE WANTS . majority of the times its women who are frustrated in the dating scene, most particularly the ones that dont approach.

i was looking at this chick i holler at in college 3 years ago twitter page and shes doing her masters. and if you ever see her tweets....
chic always talking and complaining about her attracting lame dudes and cutting dudes off. majority of her tweets is male bashing. shes clearly frustrated then a week ago she said something about VERBATIM
"I refuse to chase a nigga its so lame nowadays." VERBATIM I copied and pasted that shit. this is my point exactly, you always hearing females complaining about the dudes that approach them or hollering at them, rarely with men. this same chic talking about she want a nerdy guy, if a nerdy guy comes your way you'll probably reject him and what are the chances of a nerdy guy approaching you? u want a nerdy guy talk to a nerdy guy but your clearly not woman enough to do it.

and people got to stop this "its a mans job to approach he's the hunter" bullshit talk. its 2000 and fucking 11, stop living in the past time change, people change and society change. cavemen hunted back in the days today people hunt as a sport, we have farmers that raise cows and sell their meat in the markets .

plus most times i notice females say they want a male thats confidence its the same females who lack confidence themselves. if your going to demand something from a mate atleast have it yourself or a part of it. just saying

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[black again]

Damn! How'd I miss this, a few years ago? Interesting..

I can't speak for anyone else, but I do what I gotta do. I "hunt" when I gotta or when I'm inspired by a lady. Otherwise, I may chill and see what comes my way.

I'm big on body language. So, usually if a chick approaches, she's already thrown out some rhythm.

I've been approached by hundreds if not thousands of women, in my life and I've rarely had a problem with it.

One of the most memorable times, I was at a club posting up at the bar and this broad comes over and damn near goes into a stand up routine...she was funny as hell! Actually, she later told me she was nervous and that's how she dealt with her nerves. I thought it was cute and we kicked it for a second.

Ladies need to get off that "letting the guy make the first move ish."

Chicks who play hard to get, often don't get got.

 

[thighsneyez22]

funny how women play the evolution card when it comes to describing their expectations of our gender roles, but bawk at this same notion when people surmise ANYTHING similar when it comes to them.

how is that tactic working for ya btw, 45% never been, and 79% unmarried black woman? pathetic...

I'll bite... evolutionary speaking, how would you explain this?

 

[militantmidget]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

My dude, who dat eis in yo sig mayn? Thicka than a mofocka.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

co-sing on the red.



you can know this without stats.

if you sit down and think about it the majority of women that dont approach will date guys who approach them. females will have preferences and what are the odds of them meeting a guy who matches all(100percent) or 85 percent of their preference? very very slim. so when they meet a guy who atleast 50 percent or probably 40 percent of what they want(their preference) they're going to settle regardless. if not then they're going to be lonely for a long time.

that why whenever i heard women say he's my dream man i dont believe it. he's half or just a quarter of your dream guy.

like i said if a female dont approach a man shes dating guys or talking to guys who isnt near her preferences. if she rejects, she rejects but she's still going to involve herself with whatever comes her way instead of involving herself with WHAT SHE WANTS . majority of the times its women who are frustrated in the dating scene, most particularly the ones that dont approach.

i was looking at this chick i holler at in college 3 years ago twitter page and shes doing her masters. and if you ever see her tweets....
chic always talking and complaining about her attracting lame dudes and cutting dudes off. majority of her tweets is male bashing. shes clearly frustrated then a week ago she said something about VERBATIM
"I refuse to chase a nigga its so lame nowadays." VERBATIM I copied and pasted that shit. this is my point exactly, you always hearing females complaining about the dudes that approach them or hollering at them, rarely with men. this same chic talking about she want a nerdy guy, if a nerdy guy comes your way you'll probably reject him and what are the chances of a nerdy guy approaching you? u want a nerdy guy talk to a nerdy guy but your clearly not woman enough to do it.

and people got to stop this "its a mans job to approach he's the hunter" bullshit talk. its 2000 and fucking 11, stop living in the past time change, people change and society change. cavemen hunted back in the days today people hunt as a sport, we have farmers that raise cows and sell their meat in the markets .

plus most times i notice females say they want a male thats confidence its the same females who lack confidence themselves. if your going to demand something from a mate atleast have it yourself or a part of it. just saying

I agree. it is the new age. The new age. Cast aside old mating rituals and get on with something new. I completely agree. Men should not by any means at all approach women. Let the females come to you. I was just speaking to a friend last night about this. Stop thinking of the old ways. Advance to the new. The old ways don't work anymore. It's the dawning of the age of Aquarius.

Men shouldn't hunt anymore, it's not prehistoria. Women aren't some kind of treasures to be found. They're not precious. They're not some kind of delicate flowers. You guys have definitely convinced me of all this. Bitches just need to kill theyselves forreal. I don't think women should even be allowed to walk among men publicly. Bitches need to be kept in boxes with just holes poked in them for dick placement.

Disregard females, attain financial prosperity.

 

[Understand My Story]

Women are like kids born to rich parents. There is a certain sense of entitlement and a belief that they have the trump card in their pocket. Women spend far less time refining their game as they expect men to have all the game. A lot of chicks, especially young chicks are on some "Entertain me!" type shit when it comes to guys. Since niggas are so thirsty and begging for pussy they don't think that they have to put any work in when it comes to sex as well. Of course not all women are this way, just like not all rich kids are like this but it does explain why the ones who are like that are the way they are. People who have to work for things have a different level of appreciation for it than those who don't. Most women don't have to work to get male attention or dick thrown their way.

 

[thighsneyez22]

Most women don't have to work to get male attention or dick thrown their way.

Agreed.

Scenario #1:
You and me both stand on a corner with a sign that says, "FREE SEX". I'm going to be the first person picked up- end of story, even if you are Denzel.

That doesn't mean that my skills at anything are better than yours, it just means that my audience is less apprehensive and picky about sex.

But that only pertains to sex. For some reason, I am pretty sure that the OP wasn't just talking about sex.

I wonder how the scenario changes when you throw marriage into the mix.

Scenario #2:
You and me both stand on a corner with a sign that says, "Will you marry me today?". It seems that, even if I was Halle Berry and you were Denzel and everything was equal, you would get picked up first. Not sure why, but if you were indeed picked up first, and we follow the logic from the first scenario, would that mean that you were picked first because your audience was less apprehensive and picky about marriage.

Not sure how that fits into the argument about a woman's mouthpiece (which I believe is necessary- for her own sanity), but it might speak to some of the other points that guys have made about marriage.

 

[c_commander]

co-sing on the red.



you can know this without stats.

if you sit down and think about it the majority of women that dont approach will date guys who approach them. females will have preferences and what are the odds of them meeting a guy who matches all(100percent) or 85 percent of their preference? very very slim. so when they meet a guy who atleast 50 percent or probably 40 percent of what they want(their preference) they're going to settle regardless. if not then they're going to be lonely for a long time.

that why whenever i heard women say he's my dream man i dont believe it. he's half or just a quarter of your dream guy.

like i said if a female dont approach a man shes dating guys or talking to guys who isnt near her preferences. if she rejects, she rejects but she's still going to involve herself with whatever comes her way instead of involving herself with WHAT SHE WANTS . majority of the times its women who are frustrated in the dating scene, most particularly the ones that dont approach.

i was looking at this chick i holler at in college 3 years ago twitter page and shes doing her masters. and if you ever see her tweets....
chic always talking and complaining about her attracting lame dudes and cutting dudes off. majority of her tweets is male bashing. shes clearly frustrated then a week ago she said something about VERBATIM
"I refuse to chase a nigga its so lame nowadays." VERBATIM I copied and pasted that shit. this is my point exactly, you always hearing females complaining about the dudes that approach them or hollering at them, rarely with men. this same chic talking about she want a nerdy guy, if a nerdy guy comes your way you'll probably reject him and what are the chances of a nerdy guy approaching you? u want a nerdy guy talk to a nerdy guy but your clearly not woman enough to do it.

and people got to stop this "its a mans job to approach he's the hunter" bullshit talk. its 2000 and fucking 11, stop living in the past time change, people change and society change. cavemen hunted back in the days today people hunt as a sport, we have farmers that raise cows and sell their meat in the markets .
plus most times i notice females say they want a male thats confidence its the same females who lack confidence themselves. if your going to demand something from a mate atleast have it yourself or a part of it. just saying

The thing that amazes me is how women particularly those who are accomplished and content with their professional lives complain about not having a man or attracting bad ones. Quite simply it's because they're willing to do whatever and go that extra mile for their career, for that home, for that new car but suddenly when it comes to a guy they don't want to do shit but wait for the man of their dreams to fall in their lap. It's real damn hard to say something is important and yet do nothing yourself to ensure that it goes well for you. On some new school independent shit until it comes to dealing with guys and then they're "old fashioned."

 

[ArsenalCannon357]

Women are mostly guilty of the logic of thinking that they can play the independent role and live the "doing me" lifestyle. After a period usually late - Mid Thirties clocks go off and they realize

A) They passed up really decent guys and those said guys are off the market now.

B) Childbearing is coming to an end

C) Their choice of men are slim pickings.

Mainly what I see a lot of in my thirties is that women use false intuition to what is security,stability,and reliability. As they get older they realize that somewhere along the line all three came to her but she was to busy "doing me and exploring the world..not wanting to settle" or usually have a warped view of "Mr. Right" as someone stated earlier they feel they don't have to do any work..the man will "entertain them"

Men who usually have anything about themselves: ambition, drive, dexterity, goals, education hold the trump card as they get older (especially early thirties)...if you don't have any added drama (kids..record..etc) women will run behind you.

 

[ethnocentric]

 

[sirwoodz]

i was just recently in my aunts beauty salon and as i was leaving, one of the beauticians(?) stopped me

"hey...Me gustas you"

the whole shop laughed "she been practicing her spanish, she say she like you!"

man that look on her face was silly as shit, but she was fine though