Health insurance reform lowers rates in NC

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Insurer for high-risk clients lowers rates
Posted: Tuesday, Jan. 04, 2011
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Karen Garloch
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There's good news on the health insurance front in 2011.

Inclusive Health, the N.C. organization that administers state and federal high-risk health insurance pools, has reduced monthly premiums for those in the federal program.

Rates for those up to age 55 have dropped by 10 percent, and for those 63 and over, premiums have decreased as much as 31 percent.

This is the result of a new interpretation of a provision in the new federal health care reform law passed in 2010. The provision says premiums for older people can be no more than four times those of younger people.

The biggest beneficiaries are those 55 and over.

"This is the heart of our population," said Executive Director Michael Keough. "People who are waiting for Medicare. These are people who have more pre-existing conditions and may be better candidates for the high-risk pool."

For example, Inclusive Health's federal program sells a policy with a $2,500 deductible followed by an 80 percent/20 percent split of medical charges.

The premium for a 64-year-old non-smoker has been $592 and now drops to $412. For a 50-year-old non-smoker, the premium has dropped from $346 to $315.

There is no difference in charges for women and men.

N.C. legislators created Inclusive Health in January 2009 as a more affordable insurance option for people with pre-existing medical conditions who don't have access to employee-sponsored insurance or government programs such as Medicare and Medicaid. Inclusive Health also offers insurance to those who have exhausted COBRA benefits or have been laid off because their jobs were sent overseas.

Last summer, Inclusive Health also began administering the new, temporary federal high-risk pool for people who have been without insurance for at least six months.

"Our message to North Carolinians with pre-existing conditions...is that you are insurable," Keough said. "With these rate reductions and premium subsidies, Inclusive Health is more affordable than ever." For information: www.InclusiveHealth.org, 866-665-2117.

Other health law benefits

Nationally, here are some other changes that took effect Jan. 1 because of the health care reform law:

Medicare Part D beneficiaries who enter the coverage gap known as the "doughnut hole" can get a 50 percent discount on eligible brand-name prescription drugs.

Medicare beneficiaries no longer have to pay deductibles or co-pays for preventive services such as annual checkups, mammograms, prostate screenings, colorectal cancer screenings or bone-density measurements.

To expand availability, Medicare will give a 10 percent bonus to providers of primary care services and to surgeons practicing in areas with shortages of health professionals.

For more, check the Kaiser Family Foundation website: http://health reform.kff.org .
 
24 hours later and my Republican and Libertarian friends who were so against reform have no comment?

Get use to it. You're going to experience a dramatic decline in posts on political issues over the next 2 years. It was the same during the GW reign.

BTW, now that the republicans have ceased control of congress, where are the jobs?
 
Get use to it. You're going to experience a dramatic decline in posts on political issues over the next 2 years. It was the same during the GW reign.

BTW, now that the republicans have seized control of congress, where are the jobs?



When they have some negative effects, or what they perceive as negative effects, of health insurance reform, they're all on it. Now, silence.
 
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Get use to it. You're going to experience a dramatic decline in posts on political issues over the next 2 years. It was the same during the GW reign.

BTW, now that the republicans have seized control of congress, where are the jobs?


I meant ceased!

As I have stated over and over, how can you govern what you hate?
 
Oh, a little play on words. Okay.

Good question I've been curious about for years.

Still no response and I got more health insurance reform news to post.


They even changed the base line of long agreed auditing. The republicans are no longer using Congressional Budget Office (CBO) figure because the CBO states that repeal of the law will cost hundreds of billions of dollars. You know the old saying, if you don't like the numbers, change them.

I tell ya, the next two years will comedy!
 
They even changed the base line of long agreed auditing. The republicans are no longer using Congressional Budget Office (CBO) figure because the CBO states that repeal of the law will cost hundreds of billions of dollars. You know the old saying, if you don't like the numbers, change them.

I tell ya, the next two years will comedy!

I saw that. Now that they're doing stuff that will increase the deficit and hurt jobs, CBO is an "opinion".
They're hurting themselves for 2012 and giving Obama and the Democrats ammunition to retain the White House and gain back a lot of House seats.


:lol:
 
24 hours later and my Republican and Libertarian friends who were so against reform have no comment?

As a libertarian, (no matter what TO may fillibuster), I thought I posted here already, but was wrong. To the post, SO ! Even a broken clock is right twice a day. This "reform" will benefit some, at least in the short run. But so would me lying to a woman in order to get her to sleep with me. It does not make it right. Why not compel those who are better at a job different from thier current ones to change. It would be better for society, right ?
 
Wow.

You were better off not commenting. That made zero sense.


Conservative logic is amusing, bordering on laughable. If you think I'm being hostile, PBS is re-airing the American Experience series of presidents and Reagan is airing this week. For those too young to remember, Reagan entered the presidency with a supposed mandate to roll back so called big government. Well, he cut taxes and the debt and unemployment rose to there greatest amount in history. The right wingers blamed people for being out of work, sound familiar?
 
Wow.

You were better off not commenting. That made zero sense.

I'm sorry, I was thinking too high up for you. Let me get a little more basic. Bad policies can help some people. For example, during the Nazi reign, many companies and people benefited greatly, but the overall effect was disasterous. Same here. Some of the effects seem good to some, for it is usually good to get something that you have not paid for. But, many of the more onerous parts of the reform bill have not kicked in yet, and there is already side effects as well. I have several friends who own businesses who have shown me with hard numbers how this law is damaging. Just think about it. If this law were so good, why would waivers be needed ?
 
Conservative logic is amusing, bordering on laughable. If you think I'm being hostile, PBS is re-airing the American Experience series of presidents and Reagan is airing this week. For those too young to remember, Reagan entered the presidency with a supposed mandate to roll back so called big government. Well, he cut taxes and the debt and unemployment rose to there greatest amount in history. The right wingers blamed people for being out of work, sound familiar?

What's laughable is the "progressive" nonsense in thinking that policies that don't work should just be expanded. Or, using the childish though pattern of asking others to disprove negatives ("if the stimulus was not passed, it would have been worse").

Liberal politics have done as much damage to the black family ( aand now non-blacks too) than fuckin' Jim Crow. Even slavery could not stop blacks from jumping the broom in secret, but the "war on Poverty" drove black men out of homes in numbers never seen. Even a white man saw that coming (see Moynihan's writings on the consequenses of government policies).

Liberal please.
 
Just think about it. If this law were so good, why would waivers be needed ?

Thats a part I'm still tryin to understand. If the bill was so good, Why are the Too Big To Fail's & those with privileged relationships with the Pres (unions), requesting & getting waivers?

Maybe U-Dave can clarify, idk.
 
Thats a part I'm still tryin to understand. If the bill was so good, Why are the Too Big To Fail's & those with privileged relationships with the Pres (unions), requesting & getting waivers?

Maybe U-Dave can clarify, idk.

Well if you don't like that specific section, offer up an improvement, other than repeal the whole thing, without anything better.

Lamarr, I have yet to hear any specific suggestions from you how to make health care cheaper and affordable for all. From what I have read, all you have is criticisms and no fixes other than the general, "market forces" talking point and when pressed on any specifics (oil spill for example) you disappear from the thread. Are you a tool for the status quo?
 
Thats a part I'm still tryin to understand. If the bill was so good, Why are the Too Big To Fail's & those with privileged relationships with the Pres (unions), requesting & getting waivers?

Maybe U-Dave can clarify, idk.

I don't see how the presence of waivers invalidates insurance reform.
You can't draw (or you shouldn't draw) any conclusion until you can pinpoint who you're talking about.
McDonald's and Jack in the Box got waivers because they already offer insurance and it would be cheaper for them to drop coverage than change to the gov't plan.

And this from the article already posted in the waiver thread

The waiver program is intended to provide continuous coverage until 2014, when government-organized marketplaces will offer insurance subsidized by tax credits, says HHS spokeswoman Jessica Santillo


The biggest single waiver, for 351,000 people, was for the United Federation of Teachers Welfare Fund, a New York union providing coverage for city teachers. The waivers are effective for a year and were granted to insurance plans and companies that showed that employee premiums would rise or that workers would lose coverage without them, Santillo says.
 
Well if you don't like that specific section, offer up an improvement, other than repeal the whole thing, without anything better.

Lamarr, I have yet to hear any specific suggestions from you how to make health care cheaper and affordable for all. From what I have read, all you have is criticisms and no fixes other than the general, "market forces" talking point and when pressed on any specifics (oil spill for example) you disappear from the thread. Are you a tool for the status quo?

I would like this too. Not just pointed at Lamarr but anyone who's against the reform. I'm pretty sure (but not certain) we all agree that reform was needed but I dont see any suggestions on better alternatives than the ones given.

And Fuckallyall, I'm not looking for a completely painfree law. There is none. Even having speed limits negatively affect some people some of the time but yeah, if it makes for a greater whole, I'm generally for it.
 
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