Tea party rep. Refuses congressional health plan

[Gunner]

TEA PARTY REP. REFUSES CONGRESSIONAL HEALTH PLAN
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TEA PARTY REP. REFUSES CONGRESSIONAL HEALTH PLAN
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 10:10am by Jonathon M. Seidl Print »Email »

A newly-elected GOP Rep. announced that he is refusing the congressional health insurance plan in a show of solidarity with the American people.

Rep-elect Joe Walsh (R-IL) told the New York Times that he will stick to his Tea Party roots and decline the government health care provided to members of congress.

“I don’t think congressmen should get pensions or cushy health care plans,” he said. But it‘s a decision that’s not being welcomed by everyone in his family. Walsh’s wife has a pre-existing medical condition, and she’ll now be charged with the difficult task of finding a plan on the open market.

Walsh joins two other Republicans in declining the government’s health plan. So far, incoming Reps. Bobby Schilling (IL) and Mike Kelly (PA) have made similar decisions.

But Walsh’s decision is in lockstep with some of his other positions. He’s a staunch fiscal conservative who wants serious entitlement reform, is hoping to repeal Obamacare, and is even against the recent tax-rate deal.

“We cut taxes, raised spending and contributed to the deficit,” he said of the deal. “Republicans should have held out for something better.”

That, along with the rejection of health care, may be politically incorrect. But Walsh doesn’t care.

“I’m going to D.C. absolutely prepared to lose in two years.”

 

[redemption]

Can't hate on him if he's actually sticking to his beliefs instead of playing politics (regardless how much I disagree with his positions).

 

[QueEx]

Can't hate on him if he's actually sticking to his beliefs instead of playing politics (regardless how much I disagree with his positions).

But are you certain that he is not just, playing politics ? ? ?

QueEx

 

[redemption]

But are you certain that he is not just, playing politics ? ? ?

QueEx

Given his actions are directly having negative effects on his family, I would say he actually believes in what he says. Now the real question is, will this last once the GOP takes over and begins to govern.

 

[QueEx]

I wouldn't disagree with you. But, I do think that the test of time, tends to tell all.
Hence, lets watch this guy and all the rest, over time, to see if they put their money
where their mouths are.

Peace,

QueEx

 

[thoughtone]

All of this political theater the Tea Baggers have been displaying. We will see if they are capable of running government. I suspect no, since how can you run what you hate!

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I wouldn't disagree with you. But, I do think that the test of time, tends to tell all.
Hence, lets watch this guy and all the rest, over time, to see if they put their money
where their mouths are.

Peace,

QueEx

I'm curious to how this plays out as well. Big talk right now.

 

[Lamarr]

I thought Pelosi exempted Congress, am I mistaken?

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I thought Pelosi exempted Congress, am I mistaken?

Congress has their own plan and he's choosing not to partake. I don't know why Congress would have to be exempted from the reform measures.

 

[Fuckallyall]

Congress has their own plan and he's choosing not to partake. I don't know why Congress would have to be exempted from the reform measures.

One of the first things congress did was excempt itself. At that point, I knew I would probably never be on board, as it makes no sense to by something the seller would not use themselves.

 

[thoughtone]

I thought Pelosi exempted Congress, am I mistaken?

Pelosi? Once again your ignorance exempts you from serious discussions.

 

[thoughtone]

One of the first things congress did was excempt itself. At that point, I knew I would probably never be on board, as it makes no sense to by something the seller would not use themselves.

Ya'll need to leave Faux Snooze and Limpbaugh alone.

<iframe src="http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/lawmaker-loopholes/" width=800 height=1000></iframe>

 

[thoughtone]

One of the first things congress did was excempt itself. At that point, I knew I would probably never be on board, as it makes no sense to by something the seller would not use themselves.

Do you ever get tired of being so pathetically wrong ?

Your thought pattern regarding this issue is exactly what's hijacking the ability of those of differening views to engage in meaningful dialogue.

The claim that members of Congress would be somehow "exempt" from the now-stalled health care legislation is a more recent absurdity. It’s a twisted claim based on misrepresentations of the House and Senate bills, neither of which exempts lawmakers. We explained how that false notion got started on the Internet rumor mill in an article we posted on Jan. 20.

 

[QueEx]

A newly-elected GOP Rep. announced that he is refusing the congressional health insurance plan in a show of solidarity with the American people.

<font size="3">“I don’t think congressmen should get pensions or cushy health care plans,” he said. </font size>

Walsh joins two other Republicans in declining the government’s health plan. So far, incoming Reps. Bobby Schilling (IL) and Mike Kelly (PA) have made similar decisions.

<font size="3">There is no "Congressional Healthcare Plan". Members of Congress are allowed to purchase private health insurance offered through the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, which covers more than 8 million other federal employees, retirees and their families, including 'postal employees' like Actinanass</font size>'
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[thoughtone]

What I find disturbing and disheartening QueEx is that many of these Black folk that voice so called conservative and right leaning points of view base their points of view on false and or partial information. It makes me wonder what in there lives caused them to have their political perspectives.

 

[QueEx]

. . . many . . . voice so called conservative and right leaning points of view base their points of view on false and or partial information. It makes me wonder what in there lives caused them to have their political perspectives.

• Do they realize that the information is false and/or partial ???

• Do the seek out and analyze contrary information ??? or

• Do they only seek out information that matches or reinforces their existing beliefs ???

We all come equipped with varying degrees of "self" which, I believe, tends to drive us to seek support of those things which validate our individual view of things or the way we want things to be. Unfortunately, we all (some more than others) at times fail to realize that there exist other good, valuable or right views/ways - - and too often we fail to 'critically analyze' our individual views against that backdrop.

QueEx

 

[thoughtone]

• Do they realize that the information is false and/or partial ???

• Do the seek out and analyze contrary information ??? or

• Do they only seek out information that matches or reinforces their existing beliefs ???

We all come equipped with varying degrees of "self" which, I believe, tends to drive us to seek support of those things which validate our individual view of things or the way we want things to be. Unfortunately, we all (some more than others) at times fail to realize that there exist other good, valuable or right views/ways - - and too often we fail to 'critically analyze' our individual views against that backdrop.

QueEx

Yes, we all have biases.

To address your bullet points in total, when your ideology requires that you come to a predetermined conclusion, those that lack intellectual curiosity are bound to have difficultly viewing the world outside of their 'bubble'.

And yes, you can be assured that this lie will be posted again in some form or another on this board in the future.

 

[QueEx]

<font size="3">" . . . when your ideology requires that you come to a predetermined conclusion, those that lack intellectual curiosity are bound to have difficultly viewing the world outside of their 'bubble'."</font size>

As an old Isley's jam says quietly at its end; and as my grandmother was too fond of saying: " . . . write that down . . ."

QueEx

 

[thoughtone]

As an old Isley's jam says quietly at its end; and as my grandmother was too fond of saying: " . . . write that down . . ."

QueEx

You scared me their for a second. I thought you were going to say..."livin' for the love of you..."

 

[Gunner]

Walsh joins two other Republicans in declining the government’s health plan

It's a matter of semantics. Bottom line he and others are declining the government's health plan.

 

[QueEx]

You scared me their for a second. I thought you were going to say..."livin' for the love of you..."

LOL, Old School.

QueEx

 

[thoughtone]

Walsh joins two other Republicans in declining the government’s health plan

It's a matter of semantics. Bottom line he and others are declining the government's health plan.

Bottom line, his and your claims are based on falsehoods!

 

[ronmch20]

Mr

Easy "gesture" for him. He's a multi-millionaire.

 

[Gunner]

Easy "gesture" for him. He's a millionaire.

Soooo if a person is smart with his/her money or provides a service that many desire they should pay more?

 

[ronmch20]

Soooo if a person is smart with his/her money or provides a service that many desire they should pay more?

C'mon raling against paying more was not his motivation. And you know this --- or at least you should.

 

[QueEx]

Walsh joins two other Republicans in declining the government’s health plan

It's a matter of semantics. Bottom line he and others are declining the government's health plan.

<font size="3">You're right; just words because:</font size>

<font size="3"> ". . . it’s not free and it’s not government insurance." </font size>

<font size="3">So who are they trying to fool ???

QueEx

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[Upgrade Dave]

Walsh joins two other Republicans in declining the government’s health plan

It's a matter of semantics. Bottom line he and others are declining the government's health plan.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/40902361#40902361

Seems easy to say "I don't want that" when you already have something to fall back on.

Easy "gesture" for him. He's a multi-millionaire.

That would be something to fall back right there.

Soooo if a person is smart with his/her money or provides a service that many desire they should pay more?

How does that make any sense in the context of the current conversation?

Give this thread credit for debunking a common, apparently accepted, right wing lie about health care reform. So if you were against it based on that one, drop it and find another.

 

[Fuckallyall]

I stand corrected. More to come...

 

[thoughtone]

I stand corrected. More to come...

Does this mean you are susceptible to right wing propaganda?

Where's Gunner?

 

[Sango]

Thank you for the insight.

 

[QueEx]

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GOP freshman Class</font size><font size="4">


There's a gap between the talk and the walk
of lawmakers who oppose "the federal takeover
of health care" while accepting federal medical benefits.
"The amount of hypocrisy here is obviously very high for people
who talk about how we all have to make sacrifices, but don't
make any sacrifices themselves," </font size></center>

• Only 17 new Republican lawmakers, almost one-fifth or 20% of the large House GOP freshman class, have rejected federal medical coverage for themselves and their families to highlight their opposition to President Barack Obama's showcase health insurance law;

• South Carolina's four rookie congressmen aren't following their lead.
  
  Reps. Tim Scott, Mick Mulvaney, Trey Gowdy and Jeff Duncan all voted last month to repeal what they and their Republican colleagues scathingly call "ObamaCare," . . . Yet the state's four freshman representatives aren't repealing their own new memberships in the Federal Employees Health Benefit Program, a heavily taxpayer-subsidized plan with broad choices, generous provisions and low premiums thanks to discounted rates for its 8 million policyholders nationwide.

• Tennessee is the only other one of those states in which none of the Republican freshman lawmakers have turned down federal health insurance.

• 3 of Illinois' 5 new House members refused to sign up.

• 3 of Florida's 8 freshman lawmakers refused to sign up.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/02/19/109023/some-for-repealing-obamacare-for.html

 

[Shurnuff]

Gunner is this you????...................