can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5 & 6

[sean69]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

i've always been a science buff, but that string theory goes way deep!

Deep into the infernal pits of bullshit

Show and prove!

"We start with a point.Its a imaginary ideal."

If you dont have any physical evidence.It's just a bull shit theory like heaven and hell.

Cosine θ !

Science is based on EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE. Pics or it didn't happen.

"But before mankind could be ripe for a science which takes in the whole of reality, a second fundamental truth was needed, which only became common property among philosophers with the advent of Kepler and Galileo. Pure logical thinking cannot yield us any knowledge of the empirical world; all knowledge of reality starts form experience and ends in it. Propositions arrived at by purely logical means are completely empty as regards reality. Because Galileo saw this, and particularly because he drummed it into the scientific world, he is the father of modern physics--indeed, of modern science altogether." (Albert Einstein, Ideas and Opinions)

The funny thing is that shit hasn't changed. The institutions and the language maybe. In the 21st century it's String Theory. In the 16th century it was the Tychonic System. (Google it)

 

[Count23]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

Deep into the infernal pits of bullshit


Cosine θ !

Science is based on EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE. Pics or it didn't happen.

"But before mankind could be ripe for a science which takes in the whole of reality, a second fundamental truth was needed, which only became common property among philosophers with the advent of Kepler and Galileo. Pure logical thinking cannot yield us any knowledge of the empirical world; all knowledge of reality starts form experience and ends in it. Propositions arrived at by purely logical means are completely empty as regards reality. Because Galileo saw this, and particularly because he drummed it into the scientific world, he is the father of modern physics--indeed, of modern science altogether." (Albert Einstein, Ideas and Opinions)

The funny thing is that shit hasn't changed. The institutions and the language maybe. In the 21st century it's String Theory. In the 16th century it was the Tychonic System. (Google it)

cool quote.

 

[sean69]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

The 10th dimension is forever in every possible way forever can be.

For instance, if you weren't born, there would be a change of events for everything that you could have affected by being alive.

Now think about all the variables of life. I.e. I broke my leg when I was 7 and couldn't play football, I didn't get my drivers license on the first try so I missed out on getting a free car, etc.

For each of those variables that has an effect on you, the people around you, the people around them, and so on and so on. There is an infinte event impact. You have done something that caused a ever spreading change. Thats one line. Every change you make is another infinte line.

Comprehending and experiencing all of those lines at one given moment is the 10th dimension. Infinite infintes.

let me guess. ur not religious?

not existing in other dimensions. There is no physical way that a human being of today could exist in a dimension higher than 3 or lower.

we only understand 1D and 2D because that are a part of 3D. Once you enter into 4 or higher you are bending the previous planes that existed before hand.

And how exacly do you bend an imaginary plane? What kind of force do u use? The force that Moses used to bend the water in the Red Sea or the one David Blaine used to bend a spoon? Nah, seriously? I'm not even playing. How do u bend an imagination and then it manifests physically in real life?

A split line is a parallel. A dot happens simultaneously. A line is an existence.

Somebody PLEASE make this nigga stop.

 

[sean69]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

peace



peace

just watched this video.

in science ...

spatial dimensions = LENGTH, WIDTH and HEIGHT and specify shape.

Corresponding vectors = DEPTH, BREADTH and ELEVATION and specify direction.

A vector specifies magnitude and direction. Physics 101

In science, we use these definitions consistently every time in every situation. In religion, objective definitions don't mean shiet. Terms and words in scripture are used carelessly, however and whenever it's convenient.

Dimensions describe shape. dimensions don't have direction. that's what vectors are for. Nobody ever says, "that box is 4ft by 8ft by 10ft by south. this makes no sense.

Dude says that time is just one of the DIRECTIONS in the 4th spatial dimension. The throws in the word duration.



And u guys c/s this bullshit while blasting religion.

foh!

 

[4 Dimensional]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

And how exacly do you bend an imaginary plane? What kind of force do u use? The force that Moses used to bend the water in the Red Sea or the one David Blaine used to bend a spoon? Nah, seriously? I'm not even playing. How do u bend an imagination and then it manifests physically in real life?

traveling faster than the speed of light. your not bending imagination. your basically out running time or also known as time traveling. Getting from point A to point B before present time at point A can reach point B. This could only happen by folding the distance plane where point A intersects point
B.

it's not physically possible to travel faster than the speed of light, but i do think it is possible to travel at light speed.

Black holes may be a capable force to break light speed, but who knows

 

[DirtyCake]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

This is an old fuckin' post.

what dimension did you just travel from bruh cuz this is new to me?

 

[tical]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

traveling faster than the speed of light. your not bending imagination. your basically out running time or also known as time traveling. Getting from point A to point B before present time at point A can reach point B. This could only happen by folding the distance plane where point A intersects point
B.

it's not physically possible to travel faster than the speed of light, but i do think it is possible to travel at light speed.

Black holes may be a capable force to break light speed, but who knows

"your basically out running time"? Please do share! and how does this equate with "time travel"?

 

[4 Dimensional]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

"your basically out running time"? Please do share! and how does this equate with "time travel"?

More specific I meant "out running present time." Once you break a speed greater than light speed then you entering a dimension (4th) that is existing in the future. The only way you can get to the future is to travel faster than (present) time .

For example: if you point a flash light at a wall and cut it on then the light seems to automatically appear. Imagine seeing that light before it appears. That means you can see the future right? Probably so, but in order for you to know the future you will have to have be consciously aware of the future as it exist. Which can not be done physically unless we fold the distance between two realms where they'll intersect by time traveling into the future.

just my opinion not facts supported

 

[sean69]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

traveling faster than the speed of light. your not bending imagination. your basically out running time or also known as time traveling. Getting from point A to point B before present time at point A can reach point B. This could only happen by folding the distance plane where point A intersects point B.

u can't outrun time. the whole time travel idea is based on a model and theory that holds this as it's central dogma. it's like violating a theory ur using to support your own theory.

it's not physically possible to travel faster than the speed of light, but i do think it is possible to travel at light speed.

Black holes may be a capable force to break light speed, but who knows

first off, the blackhole idea is easily debunked. it's bullshit.

secondly, not only is it physically impossible for humans, shit any form of matter, to travel faster than the speed of light it's impossible in principle.

photons and all other forms of electromagnetic radiation are "massless" and propagate at light speed thanks to the magic of math and special relativity's "mass-energy equivalence". Baryonic matter, the so-called particles that make us up, electrons and shit, have mass. To travel at light speed, c= (E/m)^1/2, either we gain a shit load of energy or lose a shit load of mass. take ur pick.
Even then whatever's left of you would still be traveling AT light speed and wont be goin back (or forth) to no future n shit.

 

[4 Dimensional]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

u can't outrun time. the whole time travel idea is based on a model and theory that holds this as it's central dogma. it's like violating a theory ur using to support your own theory.

first off, the blackhole idea is easily debunked. it's bullshit.

secondly, not only is it physically impossible for humans, shit any form of matter, to travel faster than the speed of light it's impossible in principle.

photons and all other forms of electromagnetic radiation are "massless" and propagate at light speed thanks to the magic of math and special relativity's "mass-energy equivalence". Baryonic matter, the so-called particles that make us up, electrons and shit, have mass. To travel at light speed, c= (E/m)^1/2, either we gain a shit load of energy or lose a shit load of mass. take ur pick.
Even then whatever's left of you would still be traveling AT light speed and wont be goin back (or forth) to no future n shit.

All this stuff is only theory. If can't be proven until it happens or is experienced, so how it is interpreted is in the eye of the beholder.

All I do know is the universe as we know it is 3D. we are discussing about things that we don't know to even exist, but think it may be possible to achieve. Physically we are still primitive in knowledge about our own universe's physics, but we understand the basic principles of physics that is universal.

 

[tical]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

More specific I meant "out running present time." Once you break a speed greater than light speed then you entering a dimension (4th) that is existing in the future. The only way you can get to the future is to travel faster than (present) time .

For example: if you point a flash light at a wall and cut it on then the light seems to automatically appear. Imagine seeing that light before it appears. That means you can see the future right? Probably so, but in order for you to know the future you will have to have be consciously aware of the future as it exist. Which can not be done physically unless we fold the distance between two realms where they'll intersect by time traveling into the future.

just my opinion not facts supported

1) You speak of time as if it has some set speed, once that "set speed" is broken your thus out running it", "time dilation" , entering "a world of timetravel"! you do realize how? rather why? time is considered a dimension right(spacetime)? further are you saying that time has a speed of 186,000 miles per sec(speed of light) + 1, once achieved well who knows ?

2) "See the future"? as in all things are on a linear scale, events have happened, continue to happen in a past, present and forward direction?

 

[4 Dimensional]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

1) i don't mean to laugh! but you speak of time as if it has some set speed, once that "set speed" is broken your thus out running it, entering "another, well 4th dimension"! you do realize how? rather why? time is considered a dimension right? further are you saying that time has a speed of 186,000 miles per sec(speed of light) + 1?

2) "See the future"? as in all things are on a linear scale, events have happened, continue to happen in a past, present and forward direction?

so time is not constant (in perspective of flow) as we consciously know it? maybe i am mistaken. Everything as we know it moves with time right? that makes it uniform (as one) with matter. Ok, now i'm am getting that feeling of confusion because shit is getting to deep right now. I know it's seem far fetched but you have to admit that there is some validity to this theory. If matter flows with time, regardless if the matter slows down or speeds up. why couldn't it be possible to break the barrier between this uniform connection of time and matter.

 

[Spectrum]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

All this stuff is only theory. If can't be proven until it happens or is experienced, so how it is interpreted is in the eye of the beholder.

No. That is not what he is saying. He is illustrating that you are holding tightly to a contradiction....maybe you just dont realize it. Let me try to explain.

It is not even theoretically possible for anything to travel faster than the speed of light.

A nonlight particle with nonzero mass would need infinite energy to be excelerated up to the speed of light.

Going beyond the speed of light would require more than infinite energy... which would be an impossibility of our reality.

There is a hypothesis that distorted regions of spacetime may permit matter to reach locations faster than what it would take light in undistorted spacetime.

You could also warp time and do faster than light communication based on the theory above, but in a temporal sense, you are still confined by the speed of light.

 

[tical]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

so time is not constant (in perspective of flow) as we consciously know it? maybe i am mistaken. Everything as we know it moves with time right? that makes it uniform (as one) with matter. Ok, now i'm am getting that feeling of confusion because shit is getting to deep right now. I know it's seem far fetched but you have to admit that there is some validity to this theory. If matter flows with time, regardless if the matter slows down or speeds up. why couldn't it be possible to break the barrier between this uniform connection of time and matter.

I recently updated my post! But, Curious how does matter flow with time? is time an independent entity of all matter? if anything "time" as we know it is just a frame of reference! and is the main reason why it's considered an additional dimension, space(3D) and time for exactness..spacetime!

 

[4 Dimensional]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

I recently updated my post! But, Curious how does matter flow with time? is time an independent entity of all matter? if anything "time" as we know it is just a frame of reference! and is the main reason why it's considered an additional dimension, space(3D) and time for exactness..spacetime!

i understand now what you are saying. I can't really explain my concepts better than how I presented them, but I do understand your point of spacetime as a frame of reference (I guess you mean a point in space at that time regardless of velocity)

wait what was the main point of discussion again because I have straight lost it?

But hell, it good discussion.

 

[4 Dimensional]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

No. That is not what he is saying. He is illustrating that you are holding tightly to a contradiction....maybe you just dont realize it. Let me try to explain.

It is not even theoretically possible for anything to travel faster than the speed of light.

A nonlight particle with nonzero mass would need infinite energy to be excelerated up to the speed of light.

Going beyond the speed of light would require more than infinite energy... which would be an impossibility of our reality.

There is a hypothesis that distorted regions of spacetime may permit matter to reach locations faster than what it would take light in undistorted spacetime.

You could also warp time and do faster than light communication based on the theory above, but in a temporal sense, you are still confined by the speed of light.

I guess in a nut shell, that statement is what I meant.

So what exist in 1D and 2D?

Time makes 3D?

in a 1D sense there is a point in space?
in a 2D sense there is a line that connected by two points?

but that point can not travel that line without time right?

 

[ICEBURG SLIM]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

Time is a Bi-product of Eternity. Eternity has no beginning or ending. These are physical ways to discuss something that is beyond
are mere 5 senses. Cool little video to watch.

 

[tical]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

I guess in a nut shell, that statement is what I meant.

So what exist in 1D and 2D?

Time makes 3D?

in a 1D sense there is a point in space?
in a 2D sense there is a line that connected by two points?

but that point can not travel that line without time right?

Length, width and height makes 3D(space)! (1D, for each).Now, the interesting one time.

Using Time as a reference piece(a Dimension) gives exactness!

Example:
An object(say your house) is located in/at a certain space(place)! But technically that object(your house) in reference to earth orbiting around the sun, is not really in the same space(exact spot, as it was yesterday)! do you get that? to really blow your mind it never will be because,the sun revolves around the galaxy and with an expanding universe nothing ever occupies the exact same space, in reference to things out side it self!

Time is the only thing that links an object and a exact spot in reference to all things external to it(meaning that object). Nothings ever in the exact same space(place) without "Time"(4th-Dimension) as a reference.

 

[Big Tex]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

Time is a Bi-product of Eternity. Eternity has no beginning or ending. These are physical ways to discuss something that is beyond
are mere 5 senses. Cool little video to watch.

Typical babble. There is no such thing as Eternity.

 

[goldeneye.1.1]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

I.e. ... redundancy

 

[Lesane Crooks]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

I guess in a nut shell, that statement is what I meant.

So what exist in 1D and 2D?

Time makes 3D?

in a 1D sense there is a point in space?
in a 2D sense there is a line that connected by two points?

but that point can not travel that line without time right?

 

[Les W]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

A nonlight particle with nonzero mass would need infinite energy to be excelerated up to the speed of light.

Going beyond the speed of light would require more than infinite energy... which would be an impossibility of our reality.

200 years ago if I told you to design a way that a 20 ton metal object can not only glide in the air like a bird but fly around the world faster than the speed of sound you would have thought it required infinite energy too

Fact is we know little to NOTHING about space, the speed of light, efficient energy or how to travel through space using the ether's existing streams, currents or forces

 

[Les W]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

I guess in a nut shell, that statement is what I meant.

So what exist in 1D and 2D?

Time makes 3D?

in a 1D sense there is a point in space?
in a 2D sense there is a line that connected by two points?

but that point can not travel that line without time right?

1D/2D are THEORETICAL imo because nothing can LITERALLY have ZERO width and/or ZERO length

 

[sean69]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

All this stuff is only theory. If can't be proven until it happens or is experienced, so how it is interpreted is in the eye of the beholder.

All I do know is the universe as we know it is 3D. we are discussing about things that we don't know to even exist, but think it may be possible to achieve. Physically we are still primitive in knowledge about our own universe's physics, but we understand the basic principles of physics that is universal.

wrong. yes it's theory but it explains our experiences. there's no proving shit. u don't prove theories. theory predicts a real life phenomena u can experience. you experience it. theory is valid. the end.
molecular orbital theory predicts that ether + heat = yo ass gets burned. you ether yourself, light a match and burn yo ass. theory is valid. the end.

It's ok and even fun at times to discuss shit that doesn't exist. It's called science fiction. But it folks are cool with this they should also be cool with discussing Jesus flying.

 

[sean69]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

so time is not constant (in perspective of flow) as we consciously know it? maybe i am mistaken. Everything as we know it moves with time right? that makes it uniform (as one) with matter. Ok, now i'm am getting that feeling of confusion because shit is getting to deep right now. I know it's seem far fetched but you have to admit that there is some validity to this theory. If matter flows with time, regardless if the matter slows down or speeds up. why couldn't it be possible to break the barrier between this uniform connection of time and matter.

why do u believe that there's some validity to string theory?? What compels ur beliefs. I'm curious.

See, I think the crux of the issue is understanding the FUNDAMENTAL (causal) relationship between time and matter. Once you understand that it make shit easier imo.

Matter is an effect. So is time. There's a general precept in science called "The Principe of Proportionate Cause" which states that :

a principle, theory, explanation, idea, whatever, that is lower in the heirachy of concepts governing nature can not overturn a higher one. Thus u can't construct a mechanism whose individual parts all obey the laws of physics yet violate the laws of physics by the sum of it's parts.

Think about this for a minute. Think about it in the context of what reductionist science does and how it works.

What this principle is saying is that you can't explain, for example, a violation of momentum conservation (physics law) can not be explained by some "unknown" biological mechanism because all biology mechanisms presuppose momentum conservation. And you can't explain it using god or some exotic sci-fi idea either.

Time isn't an existent thing. It's an effect.( so is matter). Once u start taking time as some physical existent "thing" that's where the bullshit starts.

(by the way, i'm not saying ST is wrong or right or even useless, i'm just saying it's bullshit)

 

[Spectrum]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

200 years ago if I told you to design a way that a 20 ton metal object can not only glide in the air like a bird but fly around the world faster than the speed of sound you would have thought it required infinite energy too

Fact is we know little to NOTHING about space, the speed of light, efficient energy or how to travel through space using the ether's existing streams, currents or forces

Not even remotely comparable. You are talking about applied science...comparing the rate of technological advances (law of accelating returns) to physical laws of science. It is a bit laughable that you mentioned 200 years ago when inventors imagined such machines 500 years ago (divinci). Traveling faster than the speed of sound does not break any physical laws.

 

[sean69]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

No. That is not what he is saying. He is illustrating that you are holding tightly to a contradiction....maybe you just dont realize it. Let me try to explain.

It is not even theoretically possible for anything to travel faster than the speed of light.

A nonlight particle with nonzero mass would need infinite energy to be excelerated up to the speed of light.

Going beyond the speed of light would require more than infinite energy... which would be an impossibility of our reality.

There is a hypothesis that distorted regions of spacetime may permit matter to reach locations faster than what it would take light in undistorted spacetime.

You could also warp time and do faster than light communication based on the theory above, but in a temporal sense, you are still confined by the speed of light.

thanks for the assist.
I still have major issues with the idea of the physical distortion of dimensions. It makes no sense. aka, nonsense.

I recently updated my post! But, Curious how does matter flow with time? is time an independent entity of all matter? if anything "time" as we know it is just a frame of reference! and is the main reason why it's considered an additional dimension, space(3D) and time for exactness..spacetime!

time and matter are connected but not through spacetime or dimensions or all that bullshit. That stuff is all hocus-pocus to create a mathematical framework to for general relativity. that's all. don't take my word for it though. do ur research and make ur own mind up.

Length, width and height makes 3D(space)! (1D, for each).Now, the interesting one time.

Using Time as a reference piece(a Dimension) gives exactness!

Example:
An object(say your house) is located in/at a certain space(place)! But technically that object(your house) in reference to earth orbiting around the sun, is not really in the same space(exact spot, as it was yesterday)! do you get that? to really blow your mind it never will be because,the sun revolves around the galaxy and with an expanding universe nothing ever occupies the exact same space, in reference to things out side it self!

Time is the only thing that links an object and a exact spot in reference to all things external to it(meaning that object). Nothings ever in the exact same space(place) without "Time"(4th-Dimension) as a reference.

See, but a reference and a dimension are not the same thing or even concepts. A reference is a basis. A set point. An objective. A dimension is a scalar used to specify shape, structure, architecture. So which is it? Is time a reference or an objective. It cant be both.
This is my argument.

 

[Spectrum]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

I still have major issues with the idea of the physical distortion of dimensions. It makes no sense. aka, nonsense.
.

Agreed.

 

[Les W]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

Not even remotely comparable. You are talking about applied science...comparing the rate of technological advances (law of accelating returns) to physical laws of science. It is a bit laughable that you mentioned 200 years ago when inventors imagined such machines 500 years ago (divinci). Traveling faster than the speed of sound does not break any physical laws.

Dear eewwll,

I'm always impressed with the way you and those like you come off so SURE when you really don't know what you are talking about


"a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing"

 

[Spectrum]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

Dear eewwll,

I'm always impressed with the way you and those like you come off so SURE when you really don't know what you are talking about


"a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing"

Right back at you, kid

 

[Les W]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

Right back at you, kid

Did you just "I know you are but what am I" me?

 

[sean69]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

Not even remotely comparable. You are talking about applied science...comparing the rate of technological advances (law of accelating returns) to physical laws of science. It is a bit laughable that you mentioned 200 years ago when inventors imagined such machines 500 years ago (divinci). Traveling faster than the speed of sound does not break any physical laws.

see. the popular argument that science doesn't know shit about what's possible in the future, we really don't know squat about nature etc etc ... this is not an argument. It's as wishful as the reverse, "we will soon know everything about everything nature in a "grad unified theory!" Science never has, never will and never can claim to have all the answers. It's just not built for that. But it's pretty damn good at explaining the world based on established factual laws within it's spcope. The extent of human imagination notwithstanding.

 

[Spectrum]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

Did you just "I know you are but what am I" me?

I could have said this.

Dear Les W,

I'm always impressed with the way like you resort to ad hominems when they can't support their arguments.


"lack of knowledge about the topic at hand is a dangerous thing"


My initial response was just a friendly way to point out the IRONY of your response. I actually could give two shits about what you think about ME. I would much rather you stick to the topic. I think I will trust the physical laws of science or your "we really dont know anything about the universe rant". Give me an argument better than my own and I will adopt yours.

 

[Spectrum]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

see. the popular argument that science doesn't know shit about what's possible in the future, we really don't know squat about nature etc etc ... this is not an argument....

Exactly.

I do not think you or I are saying we have THE answer. We are saying that we choose the best answer or answers that most soundly apply what we do know about the universe.

If someone (on any topic) shows me something that makes more sense, I will adopt it accordingly. No zealot here.

 

[Les W]

Re: can you imagine 10 dimensions? see if you can follow...my head exploded after 5

see. the popular argument that science doesn't know shit about what's possible in the future, we really don't know squat about nature etc etc ... this is not an argument. It's as wishful as the reverse, "we will soon know everything about everything nature in a "grad unified theory!" Science never has, never will and never can claim to have all the answers. It's just not built for that. But it's pretty damn good at explaining the world based on established factual laws within it's spcope. The extent of human imagination notwithstanding.

Hmmm .... Really sean69???? REALLY? If they NEVER EVER have all the answers then why do you start almost every reply with:

Wrong or No

Yall just as delusional as the religious nuts imo ... BUT corner yall about the lack of credibility and yall start doing the Stevie Wonder lol