Rand Paul Supporter Head-Stomps Protester

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Head Stomp Victim: Paul Supporters Planned It</font size>
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MoveOn.org Employee Lauren Valle, Was Roughed Up
for Holding Critical Sign at Rand Paul Rally,
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CBS News
Oct. 27, 2010


(CBS) The woman who was wrestled to the ground and kicked in the
head for holding a critical sign at a Rand Paul event says that the
violence was "premeditated" and that her partner heard Paul supporters
say, "We're here to do crowd control and we might have to take
someone out." FULL STORY.


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Head Stomper Wants An Apology
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Ran Paul volunteer Tim Profitt


Tim Profitt -- the former Rand Paul volunteer who stomped on the head of
a MoveOn activist -- told told local CBS station WKYT that he wants an
apology from the woman he stomped and that she started the whole thing.

"I don't think it's that big of a deal," Profitt said. "I would like for her to
apologize to me to be honest with you."

Profitt also blamed the incident on his back pain. Footage shows that Profitt
stomped down on Lauren Valle's head, neck and shoulder while she was being
restrained by another man with her shoulder on the street and her head on
the curb.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/...-wants-an-apology-from-woman-he-assaulted.php
 
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And, who does Tim Profitt Blame?


  • "the police were to blame because they weren't doing their jobs,"

  • his "bad back is to blame because he couldn't bend down to restrain Valle with his hands," and

  • "Valle is to blame because she planned the whole incident." He added that "Valle owes him an apology."
 

And, who does Tim Profitt Blame?

  • "the police were to blame because they weren't doing their jobs,"

  • his "bad back is to blame because he couldn't bend down to restrain Valle with his hands," and

  • "Valle is to blame because she planned the whole incident." He added that "Valle owes him an apology."



You see, again this fully illustrates the hypocrisy of the libertarian. Take personal responsibility unless it involves a libertarian.

Conservatives have no shame!
 
How in the Hell they would know what this nut would do?

Did the Secret service let this woman give a letter to OBAMA?



Woman wanting to give Obama a letter opposing gay marriage is removed from airport press area
Published: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 9:26 PM Updated: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 10:34 PM

LOS ANGELES -- A writer for a small Georgia newspaper who wanted to give President Barack Obama a letter was forcibly removed from a press area near Air Force One on Thursday shortly before he arrived at the airport.
Airport security officers carried the woman away by the feet and arms as she protested her removal. She was then allowed to leave. She said the letter she had written was opposing gay marriage.

She later identified herself as Brenda Lee, a writer for the Georgia Informer in Macon, and said she is a "Roman Catholic priestess" who lives in Anaheim, Calif. She said she has White House press credentials.
The newspaper's Web site says it is a monthly publication; the site has writings by Lee posted. A call to the newspaper was not immediately returned.
The White House had no comment, said deputy press secretary Josh Earnest in Washington.
The incident occurred about 10 minutes before Obama arrived at Los Angeles International Airport by helicopter to board Air Force One. He had been in Los Angeles to attend a Democratic National Committee fund-raiser in Beverly Hills on Wednesday.
Lee said later in a telephone interview with The Associated Press that she wanted to hand Obama a letter urging him "to take a stand for traditional marriage."
She said she asked a Secret Service agent to give the president her letter, but he refused and referred her to a White House staffer. Lee said she refused to give the staffer the letter.
"I said, 'I'll take my chances if [the president] comes by here,' " said Lee. "He became annoyed that I wouldn't give him the letter."
Lee said she protested when she was asked to leave.
"I said, 'Why are you bothering me?' They escorted me outside the gate," she said. She said security officers allowed her to return when she promised she would not yell or wave, but then other officers arrived and told her to leave.
"I said, 'I'm not leaving,' " she said. "They tried to drag me out."
Two officers then picked her up and carried her out.
Lee, who said this was the second presidential event she has covered, was later released.


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I guess it was cool for his supporters to let this nut get that close.


SEIU thugs beat black conservative

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Regardless of how you feel about a candidate, security must be paramount. It's obvious you failed to view any of the videos. Being that you are so pro black, what's your take on the brother being jumped by union thugs? Did he deserve it?
There is nothing that lights up this board more that race or an opportunity to slam conservatives as monsters. Yet you shy away from things that really have an impact on our community. Quality schools, safe streets, the economy and job numbers. If that was an Obama protester you wouldn't give a damn.
 
Regardless of how you feel about a candidate, security must be paramount. It's obvious you failed to view any of the videos. Being that you are so pro black, what's your take on the brother being jumped by union thugs? Did he deserve it?
There is nothing that lights up this board more that race or an opportunity to slam conservatives as monsters. Yet you shy away from things that really have an impact on our community. Quality schools, safe streets, the economy and job numbers. If that was an Obama protester you wouldn't give a damn.

Yeah. What was Thought thinking? It was her fault. She should have known, if you come to a Tea Party rally with a different message, you can expect to get your head stomped. No need to trouble law enforcement with such small matters.

QueEx
 
Yeah. What was Thought thinking? It was her fault. She should have known, if you come to a Tea Party rally with a different message, you can expect to get your head stomped. No need to trouble law enforcement with such small matters.

QueEx


Keep grabbing for straws, Conway will lose then this thread will die a slow death.
Flip the script if someone came that close to obama your head would explode.:D

Polling Data
Poll Date Sample Paul (R) Conway (D) Spread
RCP Average 10/18 - 10/26 -- 50.3 42.3 Paul +8.0
CNN/Time 10/20 - 10/26 785 LV 50 43 Paul +7
FOX News/POR-Rasmussen 10/23 - 10/23 1000 LV 50 43 Paul +7
PPP (D) 10/21 - 10/24 900 LV 53 40 Paul +13
Mason-Dixon 10/18 - 10/19 625 LV 48 43 Paul +5
See All Kentucky Senate - Paul vs. Conway Polling Data


The left never gets out of hand!

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Regardless of how you feel about a candidate, security must be paramount. It's obvious you failed to view any of the videos. Being that you are so pro black, what's your take on the brother being jumped by union thugs? Did he deserve it?
There is nothing that lights up this board more that race or an opportunity to slam conservatives as monsters. Yet you shy away from things that really have an impact on our community. Quality schools, safe streets, the economy and job numbers. If that was an Obama protester you wouldn't give a damn.


Being that you are so pro black,

That's a bad thing?

May be you should try it.

Interesting how you deflected the violence of the Tea Baggers. From spitting on congressman, to toting guns to political rallies, to ambiguous threats ("second amendment remedies") these republicans that are ashamed to admit they are republicans are part of what's wrong with the political atmosphere.
 
Keep grabbing for straws, Conway will lose then this thread will die a slow death.
Flip the script if someone came that close to obama your head would explode.:D


Further evidence of the immorality of the right. As long as it wins elections, then any thing goes.
 
Further evidence of the immorality of the right. As long as it wins elections, then any thing goes.

Sooooo if that is the case why did you and others disregarded all of Obama's shady dealings. Rev. Wright et al . Just as long as you guys win right?:D
 
That's a bad thing?

May be you should try it.
There you go, throw out your race card to help make your point.


Interesting how you deflected the violence of the Tea Baggers. From spitting on congressman, to toting guns to political rallies, to ambiguous threats ("second amendment remedies") these republicans that are ashamed to admit they are republicans are part of what's wrong with the political atmosphere.

Produce a video of someone spitting on a congressman. 100,000.00 was put out to pay anyone who produced a video. No one has come forward.

With a proper permit American's can carry a firearm on their person.

Someone's tone can be taken as a threat to you. MAN UP Thought!:lol:
 
Keep grabbing for straws, Conway will lose then this thread will die a slow death.

Stop missing the damn point! Everyone knows we're talking about "KENTUCKY" -- who the hell else would one expect to win?
 
Produce a video of someone spitting on a congressman. 100,000.00 was put out to pay anyone who produced a video. No one has come forward.

If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it still make a sound ?

QueEx
 
Sooooo if that is the case why did you and others disregarded all of Obama's shady dealings. Rev. Wright et al . Just as long as you guys win right?:D


Debating you is like debating a tree. Your moral equivalency is laughable!
 
If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it still make a sound ?

QueEx

http://dailycaller.com/
Well in this instance several were around

Democrat Cleaver says he never “reported” being spat on


UPDATE 5:20 P.M. – We reached out to Cleaver’s office in hopes they could clarify what the congressman meant when he said he had not “reported” the incident. Cleaver spokesman Danny Rotert e-mailed us back and said, in essence, that the congressman was attempting to say that he has not tried to draw attention to the incident by going on national TV programs and talking about it.

Rotert also says that the man who spit on Cleaver (intentionally or unintentionally) was detained by Capitol Police, and that he wasn’t arrested because Cleaver refused to identify him.

Here is Rotert’s full statement:

In the quote described, the Congressman is saying he did not hold a press conference, did not issue a release, has continually declined interview requests from both O’Reilly and Matthews. Had another office not spoken about the matter thus prompting requests for our office to confirm, we wouldn’t have even issued that statement to the media we did. Had he had his way-no one would have known about this incident.

The man was detained after the incident was reported to Capitol Police (upon entering the Complex). Sgt. Kimberly Schneider has confirmed the man was brought in and the Congressman declined to identify him, knowing what would happen if he did. In the context of his interview he was trying to say he didn’t want to make it a big deal. He said reported. But he is talking about reporting the incident to the press. Clearly the detention of the man would indicate the Capitol police were told of the incident. I understand that the added scrutiny of this unfortunate episode means that every word is picked apart. I am confident follow up with the local reporter would reveal that, as the story headline indicates, the Congressman continues to try and not talk about the issue, blame anyone or use the incident for anything other than to talk about the need for both parties to practice civility.

Hope that helps and thanks again for the request. Despite every effort our office has made to downplay the incident — it still hangs around. As your blog fairly states, and unlike many commentators on both sides, we have never characterized what was in the mans mind, and do not know if it was on purpose or and accident and will not speculate. People make mistakes, which is why the Congressman has declined to pursue the matter further.

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Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, Missouri Democrat, was one of a few central figures key to the narrative that Democrats used in the days after the health care vote to argue that many of the people who opposed the massive new law are racist or deranged.

Cleaver, the story went, was spit on by Tea Party protesters, who also reportedly used racist language against black lawmakers. One incident that has been confirmed is that some protesters yelled an epithet at gay lawmaker Barney Frank, Massachusetts Democrat.

Video recently surfaced that called into question whether or not Cleaver was actually spat upon intentionally. The video (which is at the bottom of this post) shows Cleaver and other lawmakers walking into the Longworth House office building, while protesters surround them (but allow them to pass up the stairs).

One man is yelling with his hands cupped over his mouth as Cleaver walks by, and as Cleaver passes him, he recoils as if he has been hit in the face with spit. What is probably unknowable is whether the protester spit on Cleaver by accident or on purpose.

In an interview on Tuesday with a local Fox News affiliate, Cleaver would not directly answer the question of whether he was intentionally spit on, and in fact seemed to deny he ever had claimed to have been spit on:

“I haven’t talked about this incident on TV or anywhere, and I’ve been approached to talk about it on every national TV show,” said Rep. Cleaver in an interview with FOX 4 News. “I never, I never reported anything, never a single thing in Washington, not one thing. People assume I went somewhere, never done press conference, never done an interview on it and I’m not going to do it.”

The denial appears to directly contradict a statement issued by Cleaver’s office following the incident. Cleaver’s statement incorrectly claimed that Capitol Police arrested a man for spitting on Cleaver. Capitol Police told the Associated Press that they did not make any arrests that day.

Here is the full statement released by Cleaver’s office to the Huffington Post the day of the incident:

For many of the members of the CBC, like John Lewis and Emanuel Cleaver who worked in the civil rights movement, and for Mr. Frank who has struggled in the cause of equality, this is not the first time they have been spit on during turbulent times.

This afternoon, the Congressman was walking into the Capitol to vote, when one protester spat on him. The Congressman would like to thank the US Capitol Police officer who quickly escorted the others Members and him into the Capitol, and defused the tense situation with professionalism and care. After all the Members were safe, a full report was taken and the matter was handled by the US Capitol Police. The man who spat on the Congressman was arrested, but the Congressman has chosen not to press charges. He has left the matter with the Capitol Police.

This is not the first time the Congressman has been called the “n” word and certainly not the worst assault he has endured in his years fighting for equal rights for all Americans. That being said, he is disappointed that in the 21st century our national discourse has devolved to the point of name calling and spitting. He looks forward to taking a historic vote on health care reform legislation tomorrow, for the residents of the Fifth District of Missouri and for all Americans. He believes deeply that tomorrow’s vote is, in fact, a vote for equality and to secure health care as a right for all. Our nation has a history of struggling each time we expand rights. Today’s protests are no different, but the Congressman believes this is worth fighting for.
 
Debating you is like debating a tree. Your moral equivalency is laughable!


I'M SORRY FOR ALWAYS BEING SO MEAN TO YOU IN THE PAST. NOW I KNOW I WILL BE NICE TO YOU!:lol:


Scientists Find 'Liberal Gene'
Study conducted by researchers at UCSD, Harvard
By ERIC S. PAGE
Updated 6:28 AM PDT, Thu, Oct 28, 2010


Researchers have determined that genetics could matter when it comes to some adults' political leanings.
According to scientists at UC San Diego and Harvard University, "ideology is affected not just by social factors, but also by a dopamine receptor gene called DRD4." That and how many friends you had during high school.
The study was led by UCSD's James Fowler and focused on 2,000 subjects from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health. Scientists matched the subjects' genetic information with "maps" of their social networks. According to researchers, they determined that people "with a specific variant of the DRD4 gene were more likely to be liberal as adults." However, the, subjects were only more likely to have leanings to the left if they were also socially active during adolescence.
"It is the crucial interaction of two factors -- the genetic predisposition and the environmental condition of having many friends in adolescence -- that is associated with being more liberal,” according to the study.



Source: Scientists Find 'Liberal Gene' | NBC San Diego
 
Stop missing the damn point! Everyone knows we're talking about "KENTUCKY" -- who the hell else would one expect to win?

Get ready for the land slide Que. Those idiots you cherish will be voted out. Explain Harry Reid then. Explain Tom Daschle , explain Scott Brown winning!!!!
 
Sir, I don't cherish ANY politician. Why would you insult me with such dumb-assed comments ??? Is it because you can't figure out what I might really think??? Or, is it because you don't care - - you're just a cheerleader looking to argue with someone about your team's better than their team ??? Honestly, even if you aren't, you sound like the latter.

If I post something, you try to come up with something to the contrary - whether or not is on point or not. Just post some shit you seem to think is like -- na, na, nuh nan, nah :lol: :lol:

Why do you insist upon insulting my intelligence with such antics ??? If I cherish idiots, I must be an idiot too -- isn't that the logical extension of what you're saying ??? Just understand, thats NOT debating or discussing issues, people, places or things. Hell, I never said I supported any of the people you named. Yet, you foolishly assume that I do ???

If you want to know something, ask. If you want to debate/discuss that something, get on with it. But please stop with the damn cheerleading.

IN THE MEANTIME, get out the vote and let the post-election politics play out as they may.

If the Tea-Bastards are not closet-racist suddenly running scared because a man of darker complexion was elected president and they now fear the browning of America is nearer than they thought, it will come out. If that be the case, those who sat silent and those who now act as substance-less cheerleaders for the Tea-Bastards will all learn a lesson.

If, on the other hand, they are honest, hardworking, "Fair" Americans, I am a firm believer that time will tell that too. I am prepared to accept the consequences of either; and act accordingly.

GO VOTE !


QueEx
 
How in the Hell they would know what this nut would do?

Did the Secret service let this woman give a letter to OBAMA?



Woman wanting to give Obama a letter opposing gay marriage is removed from airport press area
Published: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 9:26 PM Updated: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 10:34 PM

LOS ANGELES -- A writer for a small Georgia newspaper who wanted to give President Barack Obama a letter was forcibly removed from a press area near Air Force One on Thursday shortly before he arrived at the airport.
Airport security officers carried the woman away by the feet and arms as she protested her removal. She was then allowed to leave. She said the letter she had written was opposing gay marriage.

She later identified herself as Brenda Lee, a writer for the Georgia Informer in Macon, and said she is a "Roman Catholic priestess" who lives in Anaheim, Calif. She said she has White House press credentials.
The newspaper's Web site says it is a monthly publication; the site has writings by Lee posted. A call to the newspaper was not immediately returned.
The White House had no comment, said deputy press secretary Josh Earnest in Washington.
The incident occurred about 10 minutes before Obama arrived at Los Angeles International Airport by helicopter to board Air Force One. He had been in Los Angeles to attend a Democratic National Committee fund-raiser in Beverly Hills on Wednesday.
Lee said later in a telephone interview with The Associated Press that she wanted to hand Obama a letter urging him "to take a stand for traditional marriage."
She said she asked a Secret Service agent to give the president her letter, but he refused and referred her to a White House staffer. Lee said she refused to give the staffer the letter.
"I said, 'I'll take my chances if [the president] comes by here,' " said Lee. "He became annoyed that I wouldn't give him the letter."
Lee said she protested when she was asked to leave.
"I said, 'Why are you bothering me?' They escorted me outside the gate," she said. She said security officers allowed her to return when she promised she would not yell or wave, but then other officers arrived and told her to leave.
"I said, 'I'm not leaving,' " she said. "They tried to drag me out."
Two officers then picked her up and carried her out.
Lee, who said this was the second presidential event she has covered, was later released.


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Really Gunner, do you not see the difference between those Rand people tackling and stomping that woman's head into the sidewalk and Secret Service carrying a woman away and then releasing her?

It seems the SEIU guys got out of hand but none of them were as closely related to a campaign as the guy who stomped that woman is (was?) to Paul's.


Regardless of how you feel about a candidate, security must be paramount. It's obvious you failed to view any of the videos. Being that you are so pro black, what's your take on the brother being jumped by union thugs? Did he deserve it?
There is nothing that lights up this board more that race or an opportunity to slam conservatives as monsters. Yet you shy away from things that really have an impact on our community. Quality schools, safe streets, the economy and job numbers. If that was an Obama protester you wouldn't give a damn.


We talk about those things all the time, haven't you seen the rest of the Politics board (or even the Main board)?. I agree that security is paramount but at least know when to say someone's gone too far. If she was that threatening, why not call the police over since they were right there?


Keep grabbing for straws, Conway will lose then this thread will die a slow death.
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Conway could win and this thread will die a slow death. It's just Kentucky.

Sooooo if that is the case why did you and others disregarded all of Obama's shady dealings. Rev. Wright et al . Just as long as you guys win right?:D


What shady dealings? What about Wright? If you mean we didn't fall for the distractions and lies put forth to derail the Obama campaign, you're right. Elaborate a little so I can be sure we're talking about the same thing.
http://dailycaller.com/
Well in this instance several were around

Democrat Cleaver says he never “reported” being spat on


UPDATE 5:20 P.M. – We reached out to Cleaver’s office in hopes they could clarify what the congressman meant when he said he had not “reported” the incident. Cleaver spokesman Danny Rotert e-mailed us back and said, in essence, that the congressman was attempting to say that he has not tried to draw attention to the incident by going on national TV programs and talking about it.

Rotert also says that the man who spit on Cleaver (intentionally or unintentionally) was detained by Capitol Police, and that he wasn’t arrested because Cleaver refused to identify him.

Here is Rotert’s full statement:

In the quote described, the Congressman is saying he did not hold a press conference, did not issue a release, has continually declined interview requests from both O’Reilly and Matthews. Had another office not spoken about the matter thus prompting requests for our office to confirm, we wouldn’t have even issued that statement to the media we did. Had he had his way-no one would have known about this incident.

The man was detained after the incident was reported to Capitol Police (upon entering the Complex). Sgt. Kimberly Schneider has confirmed the man was brought in and the Congressman declined to identify him, knowing what would happen if he did. In the context of his interview he was trying to say he didn’t want to make it a big deal. He said reported. But he is talking about reporting the incident to the press. Clearly the detention of the man would indicate the Capitol police were told of the incident. I understand that the added scrutiny of this unfortunate episode means that every word is picked apart. I am confident follow up with the local reporter would reveal that, as the story headline indicates, the Congressman continues to try and not talk about the issue, blame anyone or use the incident for anything other than to talk about the need for both parties to practice civility.

Hope that helps and thanks again for the request. Despite every effort our office has made to downplay the incident — it still hangs around. As your blog fairly states, and unlike many commentators on both sides, we have never characterized what was in the mans mind, and do not know if it was on purpose or and accident and will not speculate. People make mistakes, which is why the Congressman has declined to pursue the matter further.

*****

Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, Missouri Democrat, was one of a few central figures key to the narrative that Democrats used in the days after the health care vote to argue that many of the people who opposed the massive new law are racist or deranged.

Cleaver, the story went, was spit on by Tea Party protesters, who also reportedly used racist language against black lawmakers. One incident that has been confirmed is that some protesters yelled an epithet at gay lawmaker Barney Frank, Massachusetts Democrat.

Video recently surfaced that called into question whether or not Cleaver was actually spat upon intentionally. The video (which is at the bottom of this post) shows Cleaver and other lawmakers walking into the Longworth House office building, while protesters surround them (but allow them to pass up the stairs).

One man is yelling with his hands cupped over his mouth as Cleaver walks by, and as Cleaver passes him, he recoils as if he has been hit in the face with spit. What is probably unknowable is whether the protester spit on Cleaver by accident or on purpose.

In an interview on Tuesday with a local Fox News affiliate, Cleaver would not directly answer the question of whether he was intentionally spit on, and in fact seemed to deny he ever had claimed to have been spit on:

“I haven’t talked about this incident on TV or anywhere, and I’ve been approached to talk about it on every national TV show,” said Rep. Cleaver in an interview with FOX 4 News. “I never, I never reported anything, never a single thing in Washington, not one thing. People assume I went somewhere, never done press conference, never done an interview on it and I’m not going to do it.”

The denial appears to directly contradict a statement issued by Cleaver’s office following the incident. Cleaver’s statement incorrectly claimed that Capitol Police arrested a man for spitting on Cleaver. Capitol Police told the Associated Press that they did not make any arrests that day.

Here is the full statement released by Cleaver’s office to the Huffington Post the day of the incident:

For many of the members of the CBC, like John Lewis and Emanuel Cleaver who worked in the civil rights movement, and for Mr. Frank who has struggled in the cause of equality, this is not the first time they have been spit on during turbulent times.

This afternoon, the Congressman was walking into the Capitol to vote, when one protester spat on him. The Congressman would like to thank the US Capitol Police officer who quickly escorted the others Members and him into the Capitol, and defused the tense situation with professionalism and care. After all the Members were safe, a full report was taken and the matter was handled by the US Capitol Police. The man who spat on the Congressman was arrested, but the Congressman has chosen not to press charges. He has left the matter with the Capitol Police.

This is not the first time the Congressman has been called the “n” word and certainly not the worst assault he has endured in his years fighting for equal rights for all Americans. That being said, he is disappointed that in the 21st century our national discourse has devolved to the point of name calling and spitting. He looks forward to taking a historic vote on health care reform legislation tomorrow, for the residents of the Fifth District of Missouri and for all Americans. He believes deeply that tomorrow’s vote is, in fact, a vote for equality and to secure health care as a right for all. Our nation has a history of struggling each time we expand rights. Today’s protests are no different, but the Congressman believes this is worth fighting for.


So Cleaver doesn't say he wasn't spit on just that he didn't tell the media (which he didn't) and he didn't want the guy who did it to get into any trouble. Is that what you're trying to prove with this? If anything, the video shows him getting spit on, whether by accident or design. The guy that spit on him didn't exactly apologize since it was an accident (so he would say).
 
I'm going to take politics out of this shit.

If you step funny towards a politician, at a rally, be prepared to get your ass kicked. No matter what race, sex, religion, political affiliation, ect.

So, no! I do not feel sorry for this bitch for stepping foul towards a politician that has guards. Just like I wouldn't feel bad if someone supposedly on my political side stepping funny towards any other politician that I might disagree with.

In fact, I'm daring my political counterparts to post some outrageous situations so I can prove my consistency on this issue.
 
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