Has Farrakhan fallen off amongst black folk ???

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Has Farrakhan's stock fallen in the black community?

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It was vintage Louis Farrakhan. The controversial Nation of Islam leader delivered a free-wheeling, take no prisoners speech at the sold out Atlanta Civic Center speech on June 26 to a wildly cheering audience. He knocked Jews for allegedly controlling the entertainment industry, and lambasted black athletes and entertainers as slaves and racial betrayers. He also said he sent copies of his The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews to various media outlets and members of the Obama administration.

In times past, that would have drawn howls of protests from the Anti-Defamation League, a quick distancing from civil rights leaders, and cries of fowl from black athletes and entertainers. This time it drew barely a ripple of response from the ADL and silence from all other quarters. The muted response raises one question about Farrakhan. Does he still have the name, cachet, and power to move tens of thousands?

The question and the answer are important for two crucial reasons. Fifteen years ago Farrakhan was the only black leader that had the message and the dynamism to draw a roughly a million plus persons to the largest black gathering ever held on America's shores -- the Million Man March. His leadership was deemed vital enough to move blacks to rally behind the fight against racism, poverty and political apathy. Farrakhan then seemed to fill a significant leadership gap. He was an unchallenged go-to-guy for black America.

That brings up the second reason Farrakhan's rise and fade from the top black leadership perch is important. With the brief exception of the sole unifying crusade black voters mounted in order to elect Barak Obama, the same political confusion, inertia, and malaise still divides and tears African-Americans apart. The hunger for a leader and organizations that can stir the masses is still just as great.

Farrakhan showed in his Atlanta speech that he can still pack a hall and bring a crowd to their feet with his fiery rhetoric, but that's no substitute for the type of sustained, focused leadership and planning to combat the HIV/AIDS pandemic, failing inner city public schools, massive black prison incarceration, police abuse and gang and drug violence.

Farrakhan was right for the times two decades ago when there was still the residual vestige of the 1960s militancy, defined in part by black leaders who could deliver rip roaring, give the white man hell speeches. Long after black militants H. Rap Brown, Stokely Carmichael, and Malcolm X, was gone and the Black Panthers, SNCC, and CORE were decimated by government assaults, and self-destructed from infighting and criminal gangsterism, Farrakhan was the last galvanizing militant standing. His longevity and the hunger among blacks for strong, outspoken leadership created the perfect storm for the Million Man March, with him as titular leader. The backlash against Farrakhan's racially polarizing and frequent anti-Semitic sentiments made him an even more alluring anti-hero to many disenfranchised blacks.

But that was then. A signal that his role as a national galvanizing force has past was the reaction of the Obama campaign when it got wind of Farrakhan's virtual endorsement of Obama's presidential bid. A spokesperson for Obama issued a terse dismissal of the endorsement. They did not even mention Farrakhan by name.

Though Farrakhan clearly cannot move racial mountains the way he once did, he's not totally a fringe figure within the black community. The throng in Atlanta packed the house, and cheered him in his full-throated assault on the usual suspects, Jews, black elite, and racist whites. His most recent columns in the Final Call calling for a national mobilization for Haitian relief effort, denouncing attacks on black leaders, and black organizations, the crucifixion of Michael Jackson and a blistering attack on the Iraq war still punch the hot button political issues.

In times past, black politicians were careful not to actively seek the endorsement of or open support from Farrakhan. But they were just as careful not to say or do anything publicly that could be construed as Farrakhan bashing. The risk was great that they'd be pilloried as sell-outs and Uncle Toms. That fear is gone, not because of any dislike or disdain of Farrakhan, but because black politicians no longer feel any need to make him the focal point attention.

Farrakhan still has the name recognition, and the many years he's spent on the racial circuit still get a few tongues wagging with his occasional well-placed dig at Jews or whites. But the man who once had the power and charisma to literally move a million blacks to make their pilgrimage of discovery to Washington D.C. is no more. While his place in history for that accomplishment is assured, it's just a place in history. That's where Farrakhan's importance lays today.

Earl Ofari Hutchinson is an author and political analyst. He hosts a nationally broadcast political affairs radio talk show on Pacifica and KTYM Radio Los Angeles.
 
Re: Has Farrakhan fallen off amongst blacl folk ???

As far as the younger generation of course, only people who still support him are older cats who came up back in the 60's and 70's.
 
Re: Has Farrakhan fallen off amongst blacl folk ???

Was niggas ever buying bean pies? That should answer your question
 
Re: Has Farrakhan fallen off amongst blacl folk ???

Louis had his chance with the Million Man March. But he went off the core message and into numerology spaceman shit and then went to Libya. He ain't been relevant since. In fact, if he wasn't Obama's neighbor he wouldn't be gettin the press he was getting now.
 
He's older and not in the best health so he can't spend a lot of time camera-chasing so it's not a case of him "falling off" but of the media having other more sensational shit to follow.
 
Re: Has Farrakhan fallen off amongst blacl folk ???

Louis had his chance with the Million Man March. But he went off the core message and into numerology spaceman shit and then went to Libya. He ain't been relevant since. In fact, if he wasn't Obama's neighbor he wouldn't be gettin the press he was getting now.

I agree that his MMM speech wasn't as concise as what was expected and incredibly forgettable.
 
that ninja fell out me when i first read c. eric lincoln's book _black muslims in america_ 23 years ago.
 
Re: Has Farrakhan fallen off amongst blacl folk ???

Louis had his chance with the Million Man March. But he went off the core message and into numerology spaceman shit and then went to Libya. He ain't been relevant since. In fact, if he wasn't Obama's neighbor he wouldn't be gettin the press he was getting now.

The MMM should have been a singular event.

Instead he and others used up it's equity with the useless Family, Woman and Youth marches, making a mockery of it in the process.
 
Re: Has Farrakhan fallen off amongst blacl folk ???

The MMM should have been a singular event.

Instead he and others used up it's equity with the useless Family, Woman and Youth marches, making a mockery of it in the process.

You know what I have to co-sign with that.
 
Re: Has Farrakhan fallen off amongst blacl folk ???

the whole organization and concept is based on shoddy misinfo. Unsustainable.
 
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He never really had a connection with the Black community that lets say a Malcolm X or Martin Luther King had. So I really dont understand the question.

Despite what some dumbfounded/narrow minded people on BGOL type, Farrakhan actually spits some deep, factual knowledge from time to time. But lets keep it real, clout wise, Farrakhan nor Jesse Jackson never came close to the powerful people that they were affiliated with. They tried, but so many things have factored into their current "Non-Threatening" images.

Its really not about falling off in the Black community, its really about them no longer being a threat to White folks. Why? Well because Elitist White folks know that they got a nice chunk of Black America by the horns.

How did this happen? Well once we started integrating with the evil cave dwellers, we started picking up their "Animalistic behaviors". We started biting the BS bait that they dangled in front of our faces and stopped focusing on what really works for Black folks. What BS did they dangle in front of our faces? Gangsta Lifestyle, Violence, drugs, President Obama, etc.

After the 60's a good chunk of Black America stopped being independent, morally righteous and proactive individuals. Yep.... we started turning into the people that oppressed us..

Some of us wil never have that type of connection with intelligent Blacks because some of us are too mentally fucked up and too busy imitating Non-Blacks.
 
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He never really had a connection with the Black community that lets say a Malcolm X or Martin Luther King had. So I really dont understand the question.

Despite what some dumbfounded/narrow minded people on BGOL type, Farrakhan actually spits some deep, factual knowledge from time to time. But lets keep it real, clout wise, Farrakhan nor Jesse Jackson never came close to the powerful people that they were affiliated with. They tried, but so many things have factored into their current "Non-Threatening" images.

Its really not about falling off in the Black community, its really about them no longer being a threat to White folks. Why? Well because Elitist White folks know that they got a nice chunk of Black America by the horns.

How did this happen? Well once we started integrating with the evil cave dwellers, we started picking up their "Animalistic behaviors". We started biting the BS bait that they dangled in front of our faces and stopped focusing on what really works for Black folks. What BS did they dangle in front of our faces? Gangsta Lifestyle, Violence, drugs, President Obama, etc.

After the 60's a good chunk of Black America stopped being independent, morally righteous and proactive individuals. Yep.... we started turning into the people that oppressed us..

Some of us wil never have that type of connection with intelligent Blacks because some of us are too mentally fucked up and too busy imitating Non-Blacks.

Co sign 3Xs

These so-called black leaders today are pawns. Real black leaders took action. Garvey, X, Elijah Mohammed, and Kind were all talk and action. These leaders today are about money, fame, and prestige. They don't care about black people.

Farrakhan had the ability to make a revolution in 1995 with all of those black men, but he did not. He could have collected money and we could have started all kinds of businesses and other things that would get us out of our condition.

I began turning away from Farrakhan when he said that we should vote and then he began letting whites in his mosque. But what really took the cake was when he let go of Khallid Muhammed.

Farrakhan has the wisdom but he ain't really doing what he's supposed to be doing. He could work with others revolutionizing the black community instead of getting money from us every time he'd in town.

Him and that hypocrite, Wallace D. Mohammed, (rest in piss) are a part of this American structure. They get their money and control from whites as well.
 
Re: Has Farrakhan fallen off amongst blacl folk ???

Louis had his chance with the Million Man March. But he went off the core message and into numerology spaceman shit and then went to Libya. He ain't been relevant since. In fact, if he wasn't Obama's neighbor he wouldn't be gettin the press he was getting now.

Yea I agree. He blew that one. Long before Obama drew large crowds, Farrakhan been doing it. But Farrakhan couldnt figure out a way to capitalize from that power. But before people forget. He did try afterwards. I forget the name of the program, but he tried to get black people to start trading with each other and outside the country. No one would listen, now the Chinese got everything on lock. He saw it 20 years ago. So dont knock him too bad, cause he tried really hard.
 
Louis had his chance with the Million Man March. But he went off the core message and into numerology spaceman shit and then went to Libya. He ain't been relevant since. In fact, if he wasn't Obama's neighbor he wouldn't be gettin the press he was getting now.

He's older and not in the best health so he can't spend a lot of time camera-chasing so it's not a case of him "falling off" but of the media having other more sensational shit to follow.

The MMM should have been a singular event.

Instead he and others used up it's equity with the useless Family, Woman and Youth marches, making a mockery of it in the process.

that ninja fell out me when i first read c. eric lincoln's book _black muslims in america_ 23 years ago.

All one needs to know ^^^
 
It's really more about the ascendancy of the black conservative than the falling off of Minister Farrakhan. We have more black figureheads in higher places now than we've ever had in this country. So naturally anyone talking radically is going to be seen as irrelevant
 
It's really more about the ascendancy of the black conservative than the falling off of Minister Farrakhan. We have more black figureheads in higher places now than we've ever had in this country. So naturally anyone talking radically is going to be seen as irrelevant

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It's really more about the ascendancy of the black conservative than the falling off of Minister Farrakhan. We have more black figureheads in higher places now than we've ever had in this country. So naturally anyone talking radically is going to be seen as irrelevant

Thats why I'm glad Farrakhan says what he says. He's the only one left that tells it like it is when it comes to Jews. Someone has to keep reminding the world of the dirt they do. You cant even get Sharpton to admit he's a black leader anymore. Every time white people ask him that question, he always says "I dont call black people, they call me" blah blah blah. Fucking coward that one is.
 
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He never really had a connection with the Black community that lets say a Malcolm X or Martin Luther King had. So I really dont understand the question.

Despite what some dumbfounded/narrow minded people on BGOL type, Farrakhan actually spits some deep, factual knowledge from time to time. But lets keep it real, clout wise, Farrakhan nor Jesse Jackson never came close to the powerful people that they were affiliated with. They tried, but so many things have factored into their current "Non-Threatening" images.

Its really not about falling off in the Black community, its really about them no longer being a threat to White folks. Why? Well because Elitist White folks know that they got a nice chunk of Black America by the horns.

How did this happen? Well once we started integrating with the evil cave dwellers, we started picking up their "Animalistic behaviors". We started biting the BS bait that they dangled in front of our faces and stopped focusing on what really works for Black folks. What BS did they dangle in front of our faces? Gangsta Lifestyle, Violence, drugs, President Obama, etc.

After the 60's a good chunk of Black America stopped being independent, morally righteous and proactive individuals. Yep.... we started turning into the people that oppressed us..

Some of us wil never have that type of connection with intelligent Blacks because some of us are too mentally fucked up and too busy imitating Non-Blacks.

This.
 
There is no leader of the black community.

As seen on this board, it is filled with no ideological frame for what black people believe, how they live, who they worship, and how to keep black love alive.

What could be said is that the sphere of influence which he had to incite emotions is shrinking, as other stimuli has taken its place in the black community while it stays as fractured as it was after the self destruction era which led to the revamp of blaxpliotation called the gangsta era.

His words has changed to be less venomous in its delivery, but we are desensitized to such rhetoric and it falls to the levels of Rush's daily bullshit.

Ask this question again when you are able to gain a suitable following of black men and women together without insignificant bullshit throwing everything to hell by the miscreants of the race.
 
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He never really had a connection with the Black community that lets say a Malcolm X or Martin Luther King had. So I really dont understand the question.

Despite what some dumbfounded/narrow minded people on BGOL type, Farrakhan actually spits some deep, factual knowledge from time to time. But lets keep it real, clout wise, Farrakhan nor Jesse Jackson never came close to the powerful people that they were affiliated with. They tried, but so many things have factored into their current "Non-Threatening" images.

Its really not about falling off in the Black community, its really about them no longer being a threat to White folks. Why? Well because Elitist White folks know that they got a nice chunk of Black America by the horns.

How did this happen? Well once we started integrating with the evil cave dwellers, we started picking up their "Animalistic behaviors". We started biting the BS bait that they dangled in front of our faces and stopped focusing on what really works for Black folks. What BS did they dangle in front of our faces? Gangsta Lifestyle, Violence, drugs, President Obama, etc.

After the 60's a good chunk of Black America stopped being independent, morally righteous and proactive individuals. Yep.... we started turning into the people that oppressed us..

Some of us wil never have that type of connection with intelligent Blacks because some of us are too mentally fucked up and too busy imitating Non-Blacks.

c/s.IF Malcolm,Martin,Elijah or Garvey were here these programmed niggas still wouldnt follow them.:hmm:
 
LOL @ mofos talking about what HE did wrong.
If Farrakhan said & did everything right, do you REALLY believe today's blacks would respond???
Anyone who ISN'T telling mofos what THEY wanna hear gets tuned out.
In other words, the truth WON'T set you free, because nobody wants to hear the truth.(especially about themselves)
 
QUOTED FROM SPINMASTER :I don't think Farrakhan's stock has fallen in the Balck community. He is as on point, bright and articulate as ever. Now, heres where I piss a lot of you off. Farrakhan is like our alter ego WE..as black people keep buried in the back of our minds. We like what he says. We amen many of his contentions and know he is right. BUTT>>>>>>>We will not let him come forth as truth from our consciousnesses or lips.. fearing it will take away from status in society, our livllihoods, even our very identifications with whites/mainstream society. Its the truth peoples!!!!!!! Even I..am guilty of this.
Like him or not..He is a great man. And the more I deny him, the more my subconscious tells me, HE SPEAKS THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!


^^^^THIS
 
This is such a broad question,but to answer it,yes Farrakhan and many others so-called black leaders have lost alot of their supporters due to alot of reasons but mainly to a generational gap.

Farrakhan always had a rocky relationship within the black community,some people just like to listen to him,some followed his movement,while other hated everything about him for whatever reason.

Whats funny to me is that the sameones talking about being sheeps,talking about leaders and being brainwashed are the same individuals who are being lead by a string by leaders that are way bigger than any so-called black leader.You think for yourself,huh,you dont need anyone to think for you?right,the shackles are off the rist and ankles but what about your mind?right,wrong,democrats & Republicans,Rich & poor,black & white,Good & bad.We(blacks) didn't make the rules,we(you & me)just live by them.Bbaaaaaahhhhhh
 
I don't think that smear movie done about Elijah Muhammad having sex with a bunch of staffers did not do the NOI any good either. That seems to put leaders of the nation on the same level as your run of the mill TV evangelist getting rich from the blood of the people. By extension, Farrakhan gets smeared by that same brush.

-VG
 
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QUOTED FROM SPINMASTER :I don't think Farrakhan's stock has fallen in the Balck community. He is as on point, bright and articulate as ever. Now, heres where I piss a lot of you off. Farrakhan is like our alter ego WE..as black people keep buried in the back of our minds. We like what he says. We amen many of his contentions and know he is right. BUTT>>>>>>>We will not let him come forth as truth from our consciousnesses or lips.. fearing it will take away from status in society, our livllihoods, even our very identifications with whites/mainstream society. Its the truth peoples!!!!!!! Even I..am guilty of this.
Like him or not..He is a great man. And the more I deny him, the more my subconscious tells me, HE SPEAKS THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!


^^^^THIS

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farrakhan will always be insanely popular with a certain segment of the african american population - that barber at the shop that gets no customers bc his hair always looking fucked up. dude has no one in his chair so he pops in a vintage 1991 Farrakhan speech in the DVD player and sits on his own chair to watch that shit.
 
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