Lucifer; said:
A Question For Serious Christians
- Thread starter Costanza
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Damn evil always looks cool as fuck...I think I'ma have to roll with him and the wenches too. Oh yeah and he only killed 13 people in the Bible...so who is the real tyrant?
I had to look up whether or not Moses actually saw God: http://www.firstcenturychristian.com/answers/answers_145.htm
It's not important, though. This scenario just requires that God-- or, really, Jesus-- be able to communicate a message.
As far as free will being the reason God doesn't speak directly to man today... Why today? Why is free will more important now than in the past?
pretty much
That's a loaded question and you know it too. Ur prolly waiting for kats to say yes they will do anything to prove their faith(assuming they have any) so u can clown a mofo
BGOL really isthe liquor shop as oppose to the barber shop. I can't believe kats are trying to have a deep conversation based on an absurd question though.
Yours Truly....Professor
seems less absurd then askin some one to kill there kid or to kill in general
co fuckin sign
he'd be on the terrorist watch list before the end of the year
funny and said at the same time
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ur soooo in the wrong thread though
the ringleaders of the oppositions to Costanzas question need to head over to the nearest community college an take a few courses on logic an readin comprehension. They aint ready for real knowledge. Or any knowledge for that matter as its plan to see by their commits. How do u hate a thread, call the OP all kinds of names but cant stay ur asses out the thread? It aint that hard to avoid the thread, I do it to others on here all the time so whats the problem?
I think you've obviously never read the Bible, Alex.
Don't get out of line... You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, keep it moving.
An important Biblical figure was asked-- by God-- to sacrifice his first-born innocent son for no other reason than to prove his loyalty to the Lord.
And last I checked, "Thou shalt not kill" implied that killing was a sin.
There's a reason the question was directed at serious Christians and not uninformed assholes.
To answer the question, NO. That would be against God's laws.
To respond to the example listed above, God told Abraham to sacrifice his first born son on an altar. Abraham did as he was told and before he was to kill his son, God stopped him and told him that as a reward for his great faith and loyalty, Abraham would be the father of a great nation consisting of God's chosen people. The point was it was an act of faith by Abraham in the extreme and God tested his chosen one. God did not go against his word or have Abraham kill his son. (Also, the commandment, "Thou Shall Not Kill" came after Abraham's time (Moses) and the actual literal translation of that scripture is thou shall not commit murder).
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Costanza, I'm going to have to teach you how to properly kick the puppies (destroy christians) within one page. If I started this thread either 1) No replies from xtians, because they wouldn't have been able to wiggle and slime their way out of the hypocrisy I would have called them out on 2) They would have came in the thread setting up strawmen and red herrings, followed by my verbal abuse which would have sent them in the corners of their room crying and clutching to their novel of fiction (Bible) like Linus his blanket.
Remember, Christians are retards, make sure you let them know that.
Remember, Christians are retards, make sure you let them know that.
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I'd consider what Abraham was instructed to do murder.
You're the second person to defend God's instructions based on the loophole that God didn't require him to go through with it... You responded "NO" to my question, reasoning that it "would be against God's laws." If God chose to test your faith by instructing you to break his law, as he did with Abraham and many figures such as in King David's time (in which case the action was actually taken), is it fair to assume that in this scenario you would drop to your knees and open your mouth and just hope that God backs out at the last second?
Also, if you're willing to break God's law to appease God... is that really faith in God or simple submission to His power?
I'm curious as to what you're talking about and would appreciate you sending it to me as well if you don't want to just post it for all to see.
Wow, this thread is truly silly.
However I'm going to attempt to answer this question because i'm bored for one and plus I want to see where this thread will end up.
so called "christians" are suppose to live their lives somewhat off the example of the life of Christ and his apostles. That in mind, when Jesus came he didn't just come saying, hey i'm the messiah, this word thats just come out of the blue and left people wondering what he talking about. Jesus was born into a culture, with established mores. He grew amongst the people and he himself read the Torah, the laws and the prophets.
When he came of age, we are told the devil took Jesus to a high place and told him to cast himself down. The devil being a bit smarter than Costanza, used the psalms to further give credence to what he was asking Jesus to do. Cast yourself down for it is written he will give his angels charge over you lest you dash you feet against a stone.
Look now at Jesus reply... IT IS WRITTEN thou shalt not tempt the Lord Thy God.
Jesus took what was already written and dispelled what Satan was asking him to do.
Now the "christian" when asked to do things must consider what is written and also ask God if what is being asked is correct?.
God would not ask man to carry out a homosexual act, because throughout time he has shown his distain for such things, why should it now change?
This question is truly gay, i felt a revulsion answering it.
Did God ever instruct His people to commit genocide against another people, encouraging killing and theft in violation of two already established commandments?
Does God truly disdain such things and would you feel revulsion in following his commands in that instance?
Ewwww
some of y'all would suck cocks?
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some of y'all would suck cocks?
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Damn you got that dude backed into corner...I do not expect to see hi in this thread anymore.
I understand where you're coming from. To answer the question, it was an act of obedience and submission on Abraham's part and he was rewarded for it. So that you understand where I'm coming from, I believe in God, but I'm wouldn't classify myself as a Christian. Most of what is being discussed involves religion and I don't believe in that. God didn't create religion, man did. Much of what is written in the Bible come from our people's beliefs and was bastardized to suit white people. I'm doing research on this topic for myself and I use the Bible as a guide for daily living. Do I accept it as the gospel? No.
My answer is based on what I feel and see around me. I believe God created things to have a natural order. Doing another man would be against the natural order of things, as God created.
The commandment is "Thou Shalt not murder" its true meaning. Take the life of the innocent. And the stealing, well if someone is dead you are hardly stealing now are you. You could more look at it has the spoils of war.
So neither of those commandments were violated.
In the Proverbs i think, it write 7 things God hates, one of them is the spilling of innocent blood. However God will take the life of those he deems guilty. So I believe he does disdain the things that he warns us against.
Would I feel revulsion in carrying out the command to kill and carrying out his command in that instance?
No I would feel no revulsion, has I would carry out such a command knowing that God is just and right and would not ask me to do an evil. And that I would not have broken any command.
Who qualifies as an innocent according to the Christian Bible?
So, Christians on BGOL are either fake ass liars or worship earthly materials over their supposedly beloved God...
My bet is both...
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My bet is both...
Dr. Truth asks Smash Or Pass???????????????????????? For 100 Million Dollars Tax Free Cold Cash
Not really. This is really an exercise of truth-telling niggas and lying-ass niggas! Any nigga on here that says they wouldn't bust her ancient ass for $100 million TAX FREE dollars is telling serious
If you were to win a $100 million lottery you would only see half because of the taxes taken off top.
This is what $100 million would look like in front of you(of all $100 dollar bills)
I think for that I can rock her world for 10 minutes (by the looks of her anything longer than that might kill her and I would never collect!)
Ninja I would fuck that ass in the middle of Cowboy Stadium.....during halftime at the All-star game...........
Read it again. Anyway, it has already been addressed in this thread.
According to Christianity, sin is sin. There is no grade list.
God told you that personally?
Great story growing up. Not so much as an adult.
God IS real. It is the "men led by God part" that I am having trouble coping with.
Nooooooooow, we are getting somewhere. This is the first bit of progress we have made in this thread and the thread is damn near over. What a shame.
Haven't done all my homework. Thought this one was excluded from a lot of violence.And to the OP Costanza, I guess I am not a serious believer.
BUMP (since the other thread is active again)
The bible has many instances of god instructing the Jews to wipe out every man woman and child in various villages, and they were severely punished when they didn't kill everyone. But just because they claim god said to do theses things doesn't make it true. Also GOD has never stopped "speaking". In network terms God is a broadcaster and those who are in a "right" state of mind will hear him/it/her. It's similar to when you are busy doing something and you hear a voice call your name, but you dismiss it when you don't see anyone around.
Since the Torah is made of stories stolen directly from Egyptian text [Book of the dead] with names and events changed to suit their bastardized religion, including the signs of the messiah, and later again stealing the text from the Book of the Dead to create the messiah story of their savior in the new testament of another religion formulated religion. This is according to a religion which predated the 6k years Europeans throw around as being the cradle of civilization... since we are already civilized during that time frame with scientists as well as mathematicians and doctors.
They didn't hear God's voice or were ordered to take that land of milk and honey, they wanted that land from its owners and slaughtered them for it. They used this after the fact when they started making their religious texts from oral history. Everything was stolen, formulated, printed, and kept amongst them. They said that they were the chosen people to keep them from outside influences, which was not for recruitment purposes. The new testament on the other hand was made for imperialistic conversion both religiously and politically as when adopted by Emperor Constantine who made it penalty under death to worship pagan religions in the hope of consolidating what was left of the bastard empire.
...then what was stolen?
I meant to say changed names of the events, and the actors of said event.
Start from Genesis and go to the end.
Creation story, adam and eve, cain and abel, Noah, david and goliath, commandments, all laws, messiah. everything in the old testament came from the book of the dead, if you change the name and keep the story you are still a thief trying to spread bullshit. such as Eve gaining a rib from adam? where in these text both were made together. Original sin being the cause of the woman from interaction with the serpent? the serpent is an Egyptian god, but original sin came from man. Cain killed abel due to infertility.
When I said all of their laws, I meant all of them. they were unable to eat those animals due to constraints placed on them by their Egyptian slavers.
Take the time to read the text, it is all there in its splendor. every single story except their declaration that god told them to kill for the land of milk and honey.
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Here are the main points of Horus life according to the Book of the Dead as a series of Hymns to Osiris in the Papyrus of Ani, not to be confused with Heru which Horus became after death and 'resurrection'
1. Horus was born of a Virgin
2. Mom name is Meri
3. Pop name is Seb
4. Of Royal descent
5. Born in a cave
6. Birth announced by an angel to his mother
7. Birth heralded by a star Sirius
8. Birth date time of the winter solstice, born of the fish
9. Birth witnessed by shepards
10. Later witnesses 3 solar deities
11. Death threat during infancy
12. Herut tried to have Horus murdered
13. Isis told Horus mother to hide him
14. Horus came of age when his eye was restored at 12
15. No knowledge of Horus between 12 and 30
16. Baptized in river Eridanus at age 30 by Anup the Baptizer
17. Anup is later beheaded [don't know why, not distinctive
18. turn water to wine
19. taken to high mountains and tempted by Sut
20. resisted temptation
21. had twelve disciples
22. walked on water
23. healed the sick
24. cast out demons
25. healed the blind
26. Stilled raging sea
27. Raised Osiris from the dead
28. was transfigured on the mountain
29. gave key address on mountain
30. Was killed by crucifixion between 2 thieves
31. buried in a tomb
32. descended Below
33. resurrected in 3 days and announced by women
34. Horus told will reign from 1,000 years in the millennium [name Heru pops in now]
35. Main role was the savior of mankind
36. called a God-Man
37. His title is written as KRST [anointed One]
38. called Good Shepard, Lamb of God, Bread of Life, Son of Man, Winnower, Fisher, Lord of Light, The Victorious One, prince of Eternity
39. I am the possessor of bread in Anu
40. I have bread in heaven with Ra
41. I know the path to Ra
42. I am
This portion is attributed to the Papyrus of Ani in the XVIIIth Dynasty, didn't add the part with his battles with Set... which were weird as hell,
When you look for him in the text, he is the dude with his finger in his mouth due to his lameness until 12
1. Horus was born of a Virgin
2. Mom name is Meri
3. Pop name is Seb
4. Of Royal descent
5. Born in a cave
6. Birth announced by an angel to his mother
7. Birth heralded by a star Sirius
8. Birth date time of the winter solstice, born of the fish
9. Birth witnessed by shepards
10. Later witnesses 3 solar deities
11. Death threat during infancy
12. Herut tried to have Horus murdered
13. Isis told Horus mother to hide him
14. Horus came of age when his eye was restored at 12
15. No knowledge of Horus between 12 and 30
16. Baptized in river Eridanus at age 30 by Anup the Baptizer
17. Anup is later beheaded [don't know why, not distinctive
18. turn water to wine
19. taken to high mountains and tempted by Sut
20. resisted temptation
21. had twelve disciples
22. walked on water
23. healed the sick
24. cast out demons
25. healed the blind
26. Stilled raging sea
27. Raised Osiris from the dead
28. was transfigured on the mountain
29. gave key address on mountain
30. Was killed by crucifixion between 2 thieves
31. buried in a tomb
32. descended Below
33. resurrected in 3 days and announced by women
34. Horus told will reign from 1,000 years in the millennium [name Heru pops in now]
35. Main role was the savior of mankind
36. called a God-Man
37. His title is written as KRST [anointed One]
38. called Good Shepard, Lamb of God, Bread of Life, Son of Man, Winnower, Fisher, Lord of Light, The Victorious One, prince of Eternity
39. I am the possessor of bread in Anu
40. I have bread in heaven with Ra
41. I know the path to Ra
42. I am
This portion is attributed to the Papyrus of Ani in the XVIIIth Dynasty, didn't add the part with his battles with Set... which were weird as hell,
When you look for him in the text, he is the dude with his finger in his mouth due to his lameness until 12
They grips was so tight.
Cozstana is a weirdo
Cozstana is a weirdo
whole lotta cocksuckers in this thread.
Easy. He wouldn't do that. He could because he's God but he wouldn't. Why? It's not in his nature to tempt people. [13] Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God,” for God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one. [14] But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.
(James 1:13-14 ESV)