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When did the Black community become so Godless?

Chiyo said:
Religion is gay. Male preachers talking about how he another man sheep,and that he loves him........damn shame
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By the way there's no such thing as nothing so the causal issue of something from nothing is meaningless.

String Theories = trying to resolve an optical illusion with binoculars. You can't solve it with a device, you have to solve it with your mind
 
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FUCKYOU said:
I cant understand how some of u black folk dont believe in God... It puzzles me.. smh.. so sad... :smh::( God help us all..
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it depends by what u mean when u say God

do we believe this religious fairytale? NO

do i believe a higher source created us? yes
 
CeeloChamp said:
it depends by what u mean when u say God

do we believe this religious fairytale? NO

do i believe a higher source created us? yes
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Why?

On a side note, i've always found it interesting, maybe ironic, that we started off primitive, with a view of an eternal infinite universe. Then we societies got more complex, we got more innovative and advanced...started making more stuff and coming up with more "sophisticated" ideas tools and and consequently developed the view of a universe with a beginning and possibly end and as a result created a whole bunch of paradoxes and shit. Hopefully we'll go back to the simpler truth we started off with sooner or later...after this mass delusion. I wont bet on it though.
 
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sean69 said:
Why?

On a side note, i've always found it interesting, maybe ironic, that we started off primitive, with a view of an eternal infinite universe. Then we societies got more complex, we got more innovative and advanced...started making more stuff and coming up with more "sophisticated" ideas tools and and consequently developed the view of a universe with a beginning and possibly end and as a result created a whole bunch of paradoxes and shit. Hopefully we'll go back to the simpler truth we started off with sooner or later...after this mass delusion. I wont bet on it though.
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that's giving up one delusion for another. I'll stick with this one
 
sean69 said:
What's the other delusion? Explain.
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you make it seem like there was some deep understanding in the beginning. How could you know something like that?

Primitive man had primitive ideas and understandin of how and why things occur. They paid a price for it, and learned how to avoid paying those prices again. I think the paradox has always been there.

Your story sounds dangerously like the tree of knowledge one, if I understand you correctly.
 
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MassaQ said:
What do you mean when you say a "higher source?" How do you determine what is the higher source?
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i honestly dont know

and honestly im kinda starting to not care, too many secrets causes uninterest

i still read books and shit to try to get closer to my answer but a lot of the information is very discouraging


i havent completely ruled out reincarnation, who knows, thats what the summerian scriputres say and they were the first advancaed civilization

im leaning a lot towards the summerian scriptures

i see it like this

if one could believe christianity and all these other fairly modern religions

then i dont see how one cant believe the summerian scriptures, when it was one of the first if not the first

but then again i dont wanna sound crazy and shit so simply put, i dont know
 
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CeeloChamp said:
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i honestly dont know

and honestly im kinda starting care, too many secrets causes uninterest

i still read books and shit to try to get closer to my answer but a lot of the information is very discouraging


i havent completely ruled out reincarnation, who knows, thats what the summerian scriputres say and they were the first advancaed civilization

im leaning a lot towards the summerian scriptures

i see it like this

if one could believe christianity and all these other fairly modern religions

then i dont see how one cant believe the summerian scriptures, when it was one of the first if not the first

but then again i dont wanna sound crazy and shit so simply put, i dont know
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what impresses you with the sumerian scriptures so much, besides the fact that they are early
 
exiledking said:
The nuances in your creation idea can very well make it a fairytale as well.
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ture, but honestly i dont know, thats my true answer, regardless of anything i might say, the real real answer is i dont know

sean69 said:
Why?

On a side note, i've always found it interesting, maybe ironic, that we started off primitive, with a view of an eternal infinite universe. Then we societies got more complex, we got more innovative and advanced...started making more stuff and coming up with more "sophisticated" ideas tools and and consequently developed the view of a universe with a beginning and possibly end and as a result created a whole bunch of paradoxes and shit. Hopefully we'll go back to the simpler truth we started off with sooner or later...after this mass delusion. I wont bet on it though.
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good point, thats why i say its very discouraging when i read different books about this topic

because in my opinion all of it has its sprinkles of bullshit sounding ideas or claims

but at the very very very end of the day, when i have these discussions with friends who have different beliefs

i simply say one of these 2 things

i worship myself, im God

or if all this bullshit sounding shit is true then

when "god" returns i'll explain to him, and if he dont feel me then simply fuck him
 
exiledking said:
what impresses you with the sumerian scriptures so much, besides the fact that they are early
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actually the fact that they are early lol

from 1st grade to 8th grade i went to private school

when i hit 7th grade is when i started tellin myself "man this shit sounds like a bunch of bullshit! tryin to scare us for no reason"

i started questioning and questioning and questioning

teachers would hate me cuz of my attitude towards religion (christianity)

one day i was having a conversation and i said "the only way to find out the truth of religion and who is god or where we come from is to study the first people

and thats why i kinda believe the summerian scriptures more than others, but dont get me wrong i still have the idea in the back of my head that even the summerian scriptures are probably translated wrong or whatever, so then again im discouraged cuz i have no idea if i should believe this

but then it does make a little bit of sense to think that they are more accurate than todays religions

i just figure the earlier the people the more accurate the information
 
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HALO said:

It's because of the nigga's among us. Black people can never have peace as long as nigga's are around. Chris Rock was not fucking lying. Nigga's are Godless to them their weed, timberlands, and rims are God. And they will live for them and kill for them, because that is what they hold valuable to them.
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Who created "niggas"?
 
exiledking said:
you make it seem like there was some deep understanding in the beginning. How could you know something like that?

Primitive man had primitive ideas and understandin of how and why things occur. They paid a price for it, and learned how to avoid paying those prices again. I think the paradox has always been there.

Your story sounds dangerously like the tree of knowledge one, if I understand you correctly.
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Nah. The tree of knowledge thing was an edict for ignorance. You must have misunderstood me. We started off free thinkers. I agree, we had some ideas about the world that were simple and we ended up paying for. But we still have modern ideas today that we pay for. Whether we're better off now than back then is besides the point I was making.

You can have a sophisticated explanation of something and be wrong. You can have a deep understanding of the wrong thing. The human brain is so complex therefore the limits of our imaginations are basically infinite. Given an array of ideas or theories or models, etc, for solving a problem, I prefer to go with the simplest one. All I'm saying is that the so-called primitive ideas of some the ancient mystics and natural philosophers were simpler than today's modern String and M Theories. And they were actually correct. For example, matter is one thing, it's continuous and not discrete. Stuff like that.

At the end of the day you can only define a delusion in the context of what's true and false. You gotta establish that first.
 
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Good question?

Funnily enough black people started to become ungodly when we started to accept the ways and philosophies of white people. The emergence and military dominance of the Gentile races that is the children of Japheth, moving into Asia and Africa started this downward trend which black people have not seemed to yet recover from.

1. Who were first called Gentiles according to scripture ?,

2. What is a Gentile ?

3. Who do the scriptures say make up the Isles of the Gentiles ?.

After the flood, one of the sons of Noah called Japheth had sons, they lived in the region that Genesis calls the Isles of the Gentiles. These Isles correspond to the regions that we call Europe today.

Genesis 10

1Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.

2The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.

3And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.

4And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.

5By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

Ancient Gentiles in the Bible
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By Come You Out!

Gentile Paganism

The Holy Bible points out in it's pages who some of the ancient Gentiles were. This subject is somewhat delicate because it has to do with ancient nations and their pagan beliefs. Today however, the majority of the ancient Gentile nations has turned from paganism (idolatry and demonlatry) to The One True Living God. Many ancient Gentiles in the Bible were infact idol-worshippers and demon-worshippers -1 CORINTHIANS 10: 20-21.

In simplest terms paganism is not a religion but a nature belief of place, or a native nature belief, for example the native spiritual beliefs of many ancient Indo-Europeans in different parts of the world were at one time pagan. Idol and demon worship is a form of paganism. A few ancient Indo-European nations are mentioned in the Holy Bible as Goy (Gentile).

Please consider -GENESIS 10: 1-4.

JAPHETH (Progenitor of the Gentile nations)

..."The sons of Japheth were GOMER and MAGOG and MADAI and JAVAN and TUBAL and MESHECH and TIRAS. The sons of GOMER were ASHKENAZ and RIPHATH and TOGARMAH. The sons of JAVAN were ELISHAH and TARSHISH, KITTIM and DODANIM"... -GENESIS 10: 1-4.

According to the Bible, Japheth is the father of the Gentile (Goy) nations forming the Indo-Germanic family, originally inhabiting the Caucasus.

1.) GOMER = Cimmerians
2.) MAGOG = Europeans
3.) MADAI = Medians
4.) JAVAN = Grecians
5.) TUBAL and MESCHECH = Russians
6.) TIRAS = Thracians
7.) ASHKENAZ = Germans
8.) RIPHATH = Anatolians
9.) TOGARMAH = Scythians
10.) ELISHAH = Aeolians
11.) TARSHISH = Spaniards
12.) KITTIM = Romans
13.) DODANIM = Rhodians

Now, let's continue on with -GENESIS 10: 5---->

ORIGINAL HEBREW

..."me aleh niphrad oo ayi ha goy yam be aretst me aysh le leshon, oo le mishpakhat me, be goy hem".... -BERASHIT asher: khamesh

What is a Gentile ?

A Gentile is an Idol Worshipper, a Pagan, a Heathen.
Basiacally they were the first to move away from the position that there is a God, and they have maintained this position till this very day. Children and the Fathers that spawn them hey ?

So now they come with a teaching which is at the very core root of their existence and they mean to spread it throughout the world. The medium they use today is this so called superiority of science able to answer all things.

Hope this answers you at least in part :rolleyes:
 
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Believing in God does not mean that I have to follow and do exactly what the church says. Not because I'm picking and choosing what I believe, but because I know to look at things from a whole, not as ammo to prove what is really your opinion on the subject.

A perfect example is Gays. Yes in the Bible it says it's an abomination, but it also says to love one another and treat others as you'll treat yourself. Now if you expect others to spit on you, deny your rights, proclaim you are going to hell and proclaim that whatever you do is corrupting the country when you sin then you have the right, but otherwise where's your compassion to help people out of sin?

Another is freaking out whenever someone talks about anything that can be beneficial to someone's sole but isn't Christianity. A good example is Islam which some people swear is fringe when there's almost as many people following it instead of Christianity. Or how I read in Time today that some guy wrote a book that makes a statement that doing yoga is like joining a cult because "Christians are not called to empty the mind or see the human body as a means of connecting to and coming to know the divine. Believers are called to meditate upon the word of god."

Stuff like that makes it hard because people who actually think for themselves because they know it's wrong, and very few churches, and therefore people seem to get it.
 
exiledking said:
there aint much to respond to. You like Sumerian culture. ok.
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right but i still left it open so i can hear your thoughts on it, im not 100% on it

its only my opinion tha they are the most accurate only cuz they are early

does that make sense to you or nah? what r ur thoughts?

have u read behold a pale horse? what are ur thoughts on that?

i read behold a pale horse years ago, i own the book

i havent read it in years but after doing some research and running into summerian beliefs

the chapter on behold a pale horse titled "the secret government"

kinda adds up to the scriptures of the summerians
 
The majority of black women I know still strongly believe so I don't think the right question is about the Black community becoming Godless.

The correct questions are when and why do we now have no problem fucking over and killing each other? Why are killings now the norm instead of the exception, especially with our youth.

A few problems I see is we don't see each other as brothers and sisters anymore we're niggas now something basically sub-human. We lack self pride, we hate upon our own who gain any level of success.

Our sisters are now looked upon as bitches and sex objects. Someone to fuck not someone to love, have a long term relationship with just someone to fuck.

An many of our women have these delusional ideals about themselves. They will spend $500 to pamper themselves rather than pay their bills. Then cry about how unfair the electric company is when their service gets cut off.

Drugs are a problem too because of the addictions and the need to feed those addictions via theft or robbery. But the biggest problem within our communities is right between our ears. We don't think out our decisions. Just look at the pregnancy, STD and AIDS stats within our communities.

We don't need God's guidance for anything I listed its all common sense. :hmm:

Sorry for the rant. :D
 
for the record, the Black community remains far more religious than any other race in the US. the folks on bgol tend to be different for obvious reasons.

Of all the major racial and ethnic groups in the United States, black Americans are the most likely to report a formal religious affiliation. Even among those blacks who are unaffiliated, three-in-four belong to the "religious unaffiliated" category (that is, they say that religion is either somewhat or very important in their lives), compared with slightly more than one-third of the unaffiliated population overall.

http://religions.pewforum.org/reports

http://www.thearda.com/Archive/Files/Analysis/GSS2004/GSS2004_VAR1187_1.asp

Blacks More Religious, Survey Finds

African Americans top U.S. religious measures-Pew

and guess what? we are more charitable than white folks.

Affluent Blacks More Charitable, Feel Greater Responsibility to Provide Financial Support to Family Than Non-Blacks, Northern Trust “Wealth in Black America” Survey Shows

kinda goes against all the negative shit the folks post on this forum about Black people, doesn't it?
 

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