Obama; because he is succeeding (CP Warning. Readers Only.)

Cock Head Jones

Rising Star
Registered
mail

Frank Schaeffer is a New York Times best selling author.

Obama Will Triumph -- So Will America
By Frank Schaeffer

Before he'd served even one year President Obama lost the support
of the easily distracted left and engendered the white hot rage of
the hate-filled right. But some of us, from all walks of life and
ideological backgrounds -- including this white, straight, 57-year-
old, former religious right wing agitator, now progressive writer
and (given my background as the son of a famous evangelical leader)
this unlikely Obama supporter -- are sticking with our President.
Why?-- because he is succeeding.

We faithful Obama supporters still trust our initial impression of
him as a great, good and uniquely qualified man to lead us.

Obama's steady supporters will be proved right. Obama's critics
will be remembered as easily panicked and prematurely discouraged
at best and shriveled hate mongers at worst.

The Context of the Obama Presidency

Not since the days of the rise of fascism in Europe , the Second
World War and the Depression has any president faced more
adversity. Not since the Civil War has any president led a more
bitterly divided country. Not since the introduction of racial
integration has any president faced a more consistently short-
sighted and willfully ignorant opposition - from both the right
and left.

As the President's poll numbers have fallen so has his support from
some on the left that were hailing him as a Messiah not long ago;
all those lefty websites and commentators that were falling all
over themselves on behalf of our first black president during the
2008 election.

The left's lack of faith has become a self-fulfilling "prophecy"--
snipe at the President and then watch the poll numbers fall and
then pretend you didn't have anything to do with it!

Here is what Obama faced when he took office-- none of which was
his fault:

# An ideologically divided country to the point that America was
really two countries

# Two wars; one that was mishandled from the start, the other that
was unnecessary and immoral

# The worst economic crisis since the depression

# America 's standing in the world at the lowest point in history

# A country that had been misled into accepting the use of torture
of prisoners of war

# A health care system in free fall

# An educational system in free fall

# A global environmental crisis of history-altering proportions
(about which the Bush administration and the Republicans had done
nothing)

# An impasse between culture warriors from the right and left

# A huge financial deficit inherited from the terminally
irresponsible Bush administration.


And those were only some of the problems sitting on the
President's desk!

"Help" from the Right?

What did the Republicans and the religious right, libertarians and
half-baked conspiracy theorists -- that is what the Republicans
were reduced to by the time Obama took office -- do to "help" our
new president (and our country) succeed? They claimed that he
wasn't a real American, didn't have an American birth certificate,
wasn't born here, was secretly a Muslim, was white-hating "racist",
was secretly a communist, was actually the Anti-Christ, (!) and was
a reincarnation of Hitler and wanted "death panels" to kill the
elderly!

They not-so-subtly called for his assassination through the not-so-
subtle use of vile signs held at their rallies and even a bumper
sticker quoting Psalm 109:8. They organized "tea parties" to sound
off against imagined insults and all government in general and
gathered to howl at the moon. They were led by insurance industry
lobbyists and deranged (but well financed) "commentators" from
Glenn Beck to Rush Limbaugh.

The utterly discredited Roman Catholic bishops teamed up with the
utterly discredited evangelical leaders to denounce a president who
was trying to actually do something about the poor, the
environment, to diminish the number of abortions through
compassionate programs to help women and to care for the sick! And
in Congress the Republican leadership only knew one word: "No!"

In other words the reactionary white, rube, uneducated, crazy
American far right,combined with the educated but obtuse
neoconservative war mongers, religious right shills for big
business, libertarian Fed Reserve-hating gold bug, gun-loving
crazies, child-molesting acquiescent "bishops", frontier loons and
evangelical gay-hating flakes found one thing to briefly unite
them: their desire to stop an uppity black man from succeeding at
all costs!

"Help" from the Left?

What did the left do to help their newly elected president? Some of
them excoriated the President because they disagreed with the bad
choices he was being forced to make regarding a war in Afghanistan
that he'd inherited from the worst president in modern history!

Others stood up and bravely proclaimed that the President's
economic policies had "failed" before the President even instituted
them! Others said that since all gay rights battles had not been
fully won within virtually minutes of the President taking office,
they'd been "betrayed"! (Never mind that Obama's vocal support to
the gay community is stronger than any other president's has been.
Never mind that he signed a new hate crimes law!)

Those that had stood in transfixed legions weeping with beatific
emotion on election night turned into an angry mob saying how
"disappointed" they were that they'd not all immediately been
translated to heaven the moment Obama stepped into the White House!
Where was the "change"? Contrary to their expectations they were
still mere mortals!

And the legion of young new supporters was too busy texting to pay
attention for longer than a nanosecond. "Governing"?! What the hell
does that word, uh, like mean?"

The President's critics left and right all had one thing in common:
impatience laced with little-to-no sense of history (let alone
reality) thrown in for good measure. Then of course there were the
white, snide know-it-all commentators/talking heads who just
couldn't imagine that maybe, just maybe they weren't as smart as
they thought they were and certainly not as smart as their
president. He hadn't consulted them, had he? So he must be wrong!

The Obama critics' ideological ideas defined their idea of reality
rather than reality defining their ideas-say, about what is
possible in one year in office after the hand that the President
had been dealt by fate, or to be exact by the American idiot nation
that voted Bush into office. twice!

Meanwhile back in the reality-based community - in just 12 short
months -- President Obama:

#Continued to draw down the misbegotten war in Iraq
(But that wasn't good enough for his critics)

#Thoughtfully and decisively picked the best of several bad choices
regarding the war in Afghanistan
(But that wasn't good enough for his critics)

#Gave a major precedent-setting speech supporting gay rights
(But that wasn't good enough for his critics)

#Restored America 's image around the globe
(But that wasn't good enough for his critics)

#Banned torture of American prisoners
(But that wasn't good enough for his critics)

#Stopped the free fall of the American economy
(But that wasn't good enough for his critics)

#Put the USA squarely back in the bilateral international community
(But that wasn't good enough for his critics)

#Put the USA squarely into the middle of the international effort
to halt global warming
(But that wasn't good enough for his critics)

#Stood up for educational reform
(But that wasn't good enough for his critics)

#Won a Nobel peace prize
(But that wasn't good enough for his critics)

#Moved the trial of terrorists back into the American judicial
system of checks and balances
(But that wasn't good enough for his critics)

#Did what had to be done to start the slow, torturous and almost
impossible process of health care reform that 7 presidents had
failed to even begin
(But that wasn't good enough for his critics)

#Responded to hatred from the right and left with measured good
humor and patience
(But that wasn't good enough for his critics)

#Stopped the free fall of job losses
(But that wasn't good enough for his critics)

#Showed immense personal courage in the face of an armed and
dangerous far right opposition that included the sort of disgusting
people that show up at public meetings carrying loaded weapons and
carrying Timothy McVeigh-inspired signs about the "blood of
tyrants" needing to "water the tree of liberty".
(But that wasn't good enough for his critics)

#Showed that he could not only make the tough military choices but
explain and defend them brilliantly
(But that wasn't good enough for his critics)

Other than those "disappointing" accomplishments -- IN ONE YEAR --
President Obama "failed"! Other than that he didn't "live up to
expectations"!

Who actually has failed...

...are the Americans that can't see the beginning of a miracle of
national rebirth right under their jaded noses. Who failed are the
smart ass ideologues of the left and right who began rooting for
this President to fail so that they could be proved right in their
dire and morbid predictions. Who failed are the movers and shakers
behind our obscenely dumb news cycles that have turned "news" into
just more stupid entertainment for an entertainment-besotted
infantile country.

Here's the good news: President Obama is succeeding without the
help of his lefty "supporters" or hate-filled Republican detractors!

The Future Looks Good

After Obama has served two full terms, (and he will), after his
wisdom in moving deliberately and cautiously with great subtlety on
all fronts -- with a canny and calculating eye to the possible
succeeds, (it will), after the economy is booming and new industries
are burgeoning, (they will be), after the doomsayers are all proved
not just wrong but silly: let the record show that not all
Americans were panicked into thinking the sky was falling.

Just because we didn't get everything we wanted in the first short
and fraught year Obama was in office not all of us gave up. Some of
us stayed the course. And we will be proved right.

PS. if you agree that Obama is shaping up to be a great president,
please pass this on and hang in there! Pass it on anyway to ensure
that his "report card" gets the attention it deserves.
 
what kind of author credits ""blood of
tyrants" needing to "water the tree of liberty" to timothy McVeigh?
 
Last edited:
he spoke for people like me, patient, thoughtful, reality based folks who see things as they actually are, not how we're told they should be.
 
not being stupid...just asking a question

McVeigh should not get credit for that quote.

The quote has been hijacked by McVeigh and militias and racists and tea party types. This is what the "real Americans" "the patriots" are saying

This is why it was attributed to McVeigh.


What's funny to me is that from the entire article, that is what was important to you. Who got credit for a quote. AmAZING
 
The quote has been hijacked by McVeigh and militias and racists and tea party types. This is what the "real Americans" "the patriots" are saying

This is why it was attributed to McVeigh.


What's funny to me is that from the entire article, that is what was important to you. Who got credit for a quote. AmAZING

doesnt matter who "hijacked" the quote.

This "author" could have mentioned who created the quote and the organizations who mangled it over the years.

You dont credit a quote to monster.

Doing so blemishes the quote's power in times when it is applicable.

Man...this shit is a repost anyway...its not that serious....just skimmed through
 
not being stupid...just asking a question

McVeigh should not get credit for that quote.

he DID NOT attribute it to McVeigh and if you can read above a 1st grade level you already know this.

you are being willfully ignorant, or trying to negate the truth of what the author is saying by falsely accusing him of an error in his facts.

i'm assuming you know why he phrased that sentence the way he did. if you do not, it proves you are not knowledgeable of recent American history.

if you do it means you're hoping none of the rest of us know and you're grasping at straws to discredit the writer and his opinion piece.

either way, stop being stupid.
 
he DID NOT attribute it to McVeigh and if you can read above a 1st grade level you already know this.

you are being willfully ignorant, or trying to negate the truth of what the author is saying by falsely accusing him of an error in his facts.

i'm assuming you know why he phrased that sentence the way he did. if you do not, it proves you are not knowledgeable of recent American history.

if you do it means you're hoping none of the rest of us know and you're grasping at straws to discredit the writer and his opinion piece.

either way, stop being stupid.

yeah...im "grasping at straws"

:rolleyes:

Im not repeating myself umpteen times or even getting into a debate about this.

I could careless.

The writer is molding views and I could see that.

(Associating tea partiers with timothy McVeigh?)

Maybe you cant....oh well :dunno:
 
yeah...im "grasping at straws"

:rolleyes:

Im not repeating myself umpteen times or even getting into a debate about this.

I could careless.

The writer is molding views and I could see that.

Maybe you cant....oh well :dunno:

good. don't argue it cause you're coming off as an asshole.

out of all that was said you're zooming in on ONE statement that YOU can't understand. rather than RESEARCHING it, you continue to criticize the author for it, when the author is TOTALLY CORRECT in his statement.

the signs he's referring to ARE inspired by Timothy McVeigh, or have you not seen them? do you not know that McVeigh bastardized Thomas Jefferson's quote, and that bastardization is the inspiration for the signs being talked about?

or are you just mad cause the writer is CORRECT and it BURNS your right wing republican ass?
 
good. don't argue it cause you're coming off as an asshole.

out of all that was said you're zooming in on ONE statement that YOU can't understand. rather than RESEARCHING it, you continue to criticize the author for it, when the author is TOTALLY CORRECT in his statement.

the signs he's referring to ARE inspired by Timothy McVeigh, or have you not seen them? do you not know that McVeigh bastardized Thomas Jefferson's quote, and that bastardization is the inspiration for the signs being talked about?

or are you just mad cause the writer is CORRECT and it BURNS your right wing republican ass?

you are such an idiot that you automatically associated me with republicans

:smh:

This exemplifies your lack of critical thinking skills as well as other democrats and republicans.

lol This amuses me when it comes to American politics...you are always "either or".

The democrat/republican two party systems needs to be dismantled.

I dont have any political leaning, guy.

Like I told a different poster...I just skimmed through the article and a saw the mistake that a writer should not have made.

A good writer would have at least mentioned the originator of the quote (because most people DONT KNOW)....and then say that it has been mangled by those like McVeigh.

But associating McVeigh with protesters today is in bad taste.

And show me "signs" that put protesters on the same level as a mass murderer.

Shit....the black panthers used to protest with weapons.

Now....you are "grasping for straws"
 
:rolleyes:

get a mouse wheel and stop crying

damn...

BGOL is now full of message board etiquette complainers



Dude, it's unnecessary. Everybody knows you're referring to the OP.

Some people surf on their phones. Have sympathy for those people.
 
i'm smater than you...i'm a critical thinker...i saw a mistake where there was none...

blah blah blah.

bitch shut the fuck up.

you didn't know what the fuck you were talking about, you misread and misunderstood what was presented, and because you didn't know enough about the subject you're now blaming the author for YOUR ADMITTED IGNORANCE and inability to comprehend what was presented to you.

you said earlier you weren't going to argue but here your weak ass is again digging yourself in deeper.

bottom line: the author DIDN'T make a mistake, you were too stupid to know it, so you blamed the author for YOUR stupidity, and then tried to justify it by saying MOST Americans are too stupid to know what he meant, so he should've clarified.

no, YOU were too stupid to get it, so don't blame the author, blame yourself.

white boy. :hmm:
 
blah blah blah.

bitch shut the fuck up.

you didn't know what the fuck you were talking about, you misread and misunderstood what was presented, and because you didn't know enough about the subject you're now blaming the author for YOUR ADMITTED IGNORANCE and inability to comprehend what was presented to you.

you said earlier you weren't going to argue but here your weak ass is again digging yourself in deeper.

bottom line: the author DIDN'T make a mistake, you were too stupid to know it, so you blamed the author for YOUR stupidity, and then tried to justify it by saying MOST Americans are too stupid to know what he meant, so he should've clarified.

no, YOU were too stupid to get it, so don't blame the author, blame yourself.

white boy. :hmm:

:lol:

I stand by what I said earlier

You have called me a republican....and now Im white too.

lol...you are on a roll.

Im well informed on the topic, but unlike you I am objective due to no political leaning.

Show me the "signs" that associate protesters with McVeigh.

The writer of the article is manipulative.
 
:lol:

I stand by what I said earlier

You have called me a republican....and now Im white too.

lol...you are on a roll.

Im well informed on the topic, but unlike you I am objective due to no political leaning.

Show me the "signs" that associate protesters with McVeigh.

The writer of the article is manipulative.

dude, educate yourself. dont beg me to do it for you. if you'd researched this shit before hand, you would've already seen the articles written about the same issue talked about.

you are being STUPID.

if you REALLY were CRITICAL in your thinking, or OBJECTIVE in your opinions, you'd be curious enough to EDUCATE YOURSELF about this topic before COMMENTING on it based on your LACK of KNOWLEDGE.

as for you being a white republican, you are until you aren't.

right now you ARE.
 
dude, educate yourself. dont beg me to do it for you. if you'd researched this shit before hand, you would've already seen the articles written about the same issue talked about.

you are being STUPID.

if you REALLY were CRITICAL in your thinking, or OBJECTIVE in your opinions, you'd be curious enough to EDUCATE YOURSELF about this topic before COMMENTING on it based on your LACK of KNOWLEDGE.

as for you being a white republican, you are until you aren't.

right now you ARE.

:smh::smh::smh::smh::smh:

Show me a pic with an audience full of McVeigh inspired signs.

Simp, Im busy

I dont have time to research every little thing.

If the shit is as obvious as you say....then give me a quick link.

Until then....shut the fuck up.

I have shit to do.

damn.....

sometimes yall take this shit to seriously

this shit is recreational
 
I'll always support Obama but we should always be vigilant and agitate for those issues/policies that you feel he (or any politician for that matter) is not adequately addressing.
 
:smh::smh::smh::smh::smh:

Show me a pic with an audience full of McVeigh inspired signs.

Simp, Im busy

I dont have time to research every little thing.

If the shit is as obvious as you say....then give me a quick link.

Until then....shut the fuck up.

I have shit to do.

damn.....

sometimes yall take this shit to seriously

this shit is recreational

you are AMAZINGLY ignorant.

you just said...for REAL...

"i dont have time to KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT."

you enter into a conversation, are told you are misinformed, and the best answer you have is: "i dont have time to be informed."

this is unfortunately, the problem with many voting aged people. you dont take time to learn anything, you want to be spoon fed everything, then when you're told you're WRONG, you STILL don't find it necessary to educate yourself.

you shouldnt be in this conversation.

you are intellectually lazy, incurious and offensive.

a quick google of the info already provided will give you what you need, but you're gonna beg me for it. :hmm:

you don't want to know better, you LIKE being ignorant, and for all your statements about being too busy, you KEEP coming back to this thread.

you SHOULDNT be in this conversation, as its OVER YOUR HEAD.
 
you are AMAZINGLY ignorant.

you just said...for REAL...

"i dont have time to KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT."

you enter into a conversation, are told you are misinformed, and the best answer you have is: "i dont have time to be informed."

this is unfortunately, the problem with many voting aged people. you dont take time to learn anything, you want to be spoon fed everything, then when you're told you're WRONG, you STILL don't find it necessary to educate yourself.

you shouldnt be in this conversation.

you are intellectually lazy, incurious and offensive.

a quick google of the info already provided will give you what you need, but you're gonna beg me for it. :hmm:

you don't want to know better, you LIKE being ignorant, and for all your statements about being too busy, you KEEP coming back to this thread.

you SHOULDNT be in this conversation, as its OVER YOUR HEAD.


Im all that?

Im just asking for evidence from the guy who says that it exist.

Dude....you are pathetic.

I wonder if you know how this makes you look.

If you have the evidence or know where to look...then just direct me to it.

I dont have time to research "everything" right now.

If I say that something is "factual" then I back it up with facts.

I dont tell people to find "the facts" themselves...

Just continue talking yourself into this downward spiral....
 
Back
Top