Fat joe speaks on almost gettin knocked out by roy jones

[Cock Head Jones]

joe had a fight with a rapper named sunkiss here in the bronx right after that cuban link shit, it was a str8 1 on 1 and they went at it,and it wasent no spur of the momemnt shit it was a meet me at 3pm after school type shit in the yard, i think joe played this the pussy way but i think it was more of who the opponent was rather then lack of heart 2 fight

i took a survey and fat joe handled it the way 100% of bgol members would handle roy jones in their grill. cop a plea...

i dont know if im believing that he grabbed roys fists though. i dont see a boxer ready to knock you out letting you get your hands on his hands.

 

[DragonXJC]

If Roy Jones would have touch Joe, he would have been in jail for a felony.
Professional and trained fighters cannot hit civilians unless they themselves are assualted.

Because of their training, their hands and feet are seen as "Deadly Weapons" or capable of injuring with lethal or deadly force.

So what may be a simple assault charge get racheted up to felony assault with a weapon attachment, or felony assualt with a deadly weapon depending on how the ADA wants to play it.

Is this real? I've been told this too many times, but sounds more like an urban myth. Got an example?

 

[Nobody]

when he say 100 dudes wit him im sure he means 6-15, b4 all this beef shit n recent yrs joe use 2 pride himself in being alone with no security, i seen him on fordham rd shopping wit his son by himself big ass chain and all, and this was after he went platinum wit that ashanti single not when he was jus a local rapper, i think all this 50 cent beef and other beef got him a lil shook

This is true. Bout 8-10 years ago I saw Fat Joe just walkin on the block in BK at night, no goons or nothing.

 

[djkidrich]

 

[mathtest]

i took a survey and fat joe handled it the way 100% of bgol members would handle roy jones in their grill. cop a plea...

im not speaking on bgol members tho fam, im talkin about rapers/former street dudes, some rappers rather get shot then give up their chain or car i,e 2pac, cam,ron , wacka flocka, so if they takin the l wit their life at risk im sure alot of them would take a knock out from roy jones after they made a slick comment on wax, if joe is comfortable wit his decision then cool im jus sayin some dude would have took the knock out jus 2 have their ego in tact but that dont make it a smart move either.

This is true. Bout 8-10 years ago I saw Fat Joe just walkin on the block in BK at night, no goons or nothing.

yeah i think at that time all he had 2 worry about was a random dude tryin 2 test him so it was more of a what if but now he got niggaz gunning for him so he switched it up

 

[BrownTurd]

If Roy Jones would have touch Joe, he would have been in jail for a felony.
Professional and trained fighters cannot hit civilians unless they themselves are assualted.

Because of their training, their hands and feet are seen as "Deadly Weapons" or capable of injuring with lethal or deadly force.

So what may be a simple assault charge get racheted up to felony assault with a weapon attachment, or felony assualt with a deadly weapon depending on how the ADA wants to play it.

I always thought that was a myth and not true. I looked it up and could not find a law that states that You got a link or something?

 

[Cock Head Jones]

im not speaking on bgol members tho am, im talkin about rapers/former street dudes, some rappers rather get shot then give up their chain or car i,e 2pac, cam,ron , wacka flocka, so if they talin the l wit their life at risk im sure alot of them would take a knock out from roy jones after they made a slick comment on wax, if joe is comfortable wit his decision then cool im jus sayin some dude would have took the knock out jus 2 have their ego in tact but that dont make it a smart move either.

camron aint get shot for his chain. he got popped for talking crazy to the wrong cat. niggas didnt want his car or his chain.

and yea some of these hiphop cats get jammed up in situations, get shot and then scream about how they wouldnt give up the chain. sometimes it aint even about the chain. sometimes they were gonna catch a bullet anyway. man to be honest i just dont believe alot of these dudes.

 

[Boo_Slim]

Dude if its for something I believe in or for someone I love, I'd fight the fuckin cloverfield monster.

Speak for yourself.

dude, youre not fighting Roy Jones 1 on 1 either and neither am I

chill...........

 

[Boo_Slim]

Shit, wasn't sunkiss his artist????

joe had a fight with a rapper named sunkiss here in the bronx right after that cuban link shit, it was a str8 1 on 1 and they went at it,and it wasent no spur of the momemnt shit it was a meet me at 3pm after school type shit in the yard, i think joe played this the pussy way but i think it was more of who the opponent was rather then lack of heart 2 fight

 

[mathtest]

Shit, wasn't sunkiss his artist????

nah he was pun artist and cubans homie, remember the terror squad was pun team, everybody except Armageddon was puns ppls first,remy ma was even puns artist, when pun died joe jus took over rank and shit got dismantled

 

[BrownTurd]

So let me get this right.

Fat Joe ain't shit without 100 dudes with him.

Fat Joe begged Roy Jones not to kill me, when Roy wanted a 1 on 1 fight.

Some will say but Roy is a boxer, but shit heart is heart.

Fat Joe is 1 pussy in the mist of 100 pussies.

He probably wouldn't fight anyone 1 on 1.

Only a fool would engage in a fight with Roy Jones especially the Roy Jones in his prime. You would never get a punch off because Roy would hit you with a counter punch and it would be over more then likely in one punch. At this point you have to be smart and strategic... to one get out of the situation and two to try and limit the possible damage you will take. Having heart with a fracture skull is pointless

 

[bborn]

peace


@ how kats are over analyzing this kat's Darkside promotion for his album. 1st thing I thought also RJjr having himself registered.
Aint no mistake though, as Joe had that spot on StNick that got shut down by the feds in the late 80s/early 90s with the FL560 label b4 all that other hip hop wear, running the streets doin what he was; so with all that comes kats around him that are loyal, do what they do & feel what they feel.

I remember when this shit happened too as kat was on the radio talking a lil about it;
RYJr could have open smack the fuck out of kat & dropped him & dipped, almost or probably breaking that jaw without that being a charge (since an open hand can't be considered like a punch) right?
Dont see Roy snuffing off the truth but if kat was popping off the mouth & hands, souped, threatening who knows lol

I think he embellished the story some, but I'm sure they were going after him with guns, they weren't stupid.

Then went after him; them had joints on em; could have mobbed, beat then popped him or got their asses beat one by one.

Good story and a perfect example of how pride and instigating escalates shit. Joe wrote a line dissing Roy, Roy steps to him to save face,he confronts Joe and Joe apologizes(more or less),but some dude who isn't even involved(Chopper) instigates for more even though Roy is semi satisfied.If Roy punched Joe,Joe could be dead(getting KO'ed by a boxing champion then having 300plus punds fall to a hard floor) and/or Roy could get killed in retaliation.Shit is silly.

Bascially
& He wasnt lying, just tight, trying to save face, or even promote his rap label he was trying to jump off around that time.

LOL @ Joe telling this shit almost a decade later, holding kat's wrists & sayin that shit lol
Should have told him he lost madd grip on his ass that night too
& Just because u see a kat chilling, walking with his fam, by himself or in the hood doesnt mean he doesnt have the powder on him ensuring him & his business' safety as he may have done as a youth

peace

 

[BKF]

dude, youre not fighting Roy Jones 1 on 1 either and neither am I

chill...........

c/s Mutherfuckers always (((playing))) hard.

 

[darkninja7000]

Only a fool would engage in a fight with Roy Jones especially the Roy Jones in his prime. You would never get a punch off because Roy would hit you with a counter punch and it would be over more then likely in one punch. At this point you have to be smart and strategic... to one get out of the situation and two to try and limit the possible damage you will take. Having heart with a fracture skull is pointless

i disagree to an extent. only a fool would BOX with roy jones or any other boxer. but its whatever.

 

[mathtest]

Just because u see a kat chilling, walking with his fam, by himself or in the hood doesnt mean he doesnt have the powder on him ensuring him & his business' safety as he may have done as a youth

peace

but now he got that on him and 100 goons, i was jus making a point that his beef and enemy numbers went up x10 in the past few yrs, if he had a burner on him if was for a what if situation now he got 100 goons wit burners cause he know he got ppl on his head

 

[Amajorfucup]

dead @ "Nobodies boxing...nobodies boxing..."

 

[Heist]

I always thought that was a myth and not true. I looked it up and could not find a law that states that You got a link or something?

There is no law that states that they are to be registered as deadly weapons in any state, HOWEVER, when under prosecution their knowledge and training will be seen as knowing the intent and repercussions of their actions.

In other words, if I hit you in the face with enough force to break your nose - I'd be charge with Felony 2 Assault and Battery.

If Roy Jones or Jet Lie hit you in the face with enough force to break your nose - they could be charged with a much higher crime of Attempted Murder because both Roy and Jet know due their extensive training that a blow to the nose could send cartilige and bone fragments into you brain and cause death.


Some case law:

Some courts in the United States have concluded that a criminal defendant's experience in boxing or martial arts should be considered when deciding whether s/he possessed a required intent to cause harm.

For instance, in _Trujillo v. State_, 750 P.2d 1334 (Wyo. 1988), the Wyoming Supreme Court found that there was sufficient evidence to support the defendant's conviction for aggravated assault after he punched someone in the head. His history as a trained boxer was one bit of evidence supporting the jury's findings on his mental state.

Likewise, in _In the Matter of the Welfare of D.S.F._, 416 N.W.2d 772 (Minn. App. 1988), the Minnesota Court of Appeals held that there was sufficient evidence to conclude that the actions of the defendant, who had "substantial experience in karate," were sufficient to demonstrate his knowledge that he was hitting the victim with sufficient force to break the victim's jaw.

Similarly, a criminal defendant's boxing or martial arts experience may be relevant to determining the validity of a self-defense claim. For instance, in _Idaho v. Babbit_, 120 Idaho 337, 815 P.2d 1077 (Idaho App. 1991), the defendant shot the victim and claimed self-defense. The trial court admitted evidence regarding the defendant's past training and experience as a boxer, concluding that it was relevant to a determination of whether the defendant truly believed it was necessary to shoot the victim in order to protect himself and others. The Idaho Court of Appeals affirmed.

Documented: A criminal defendant's experience in boxing or the martial arts may be relevant to deciding whether the elements of a criminal offense have been proven

 

[Ralo Lawson]

That Fat nigga's no gangster. His brother is. Ain't no rapper as gangster as that nigga E-40 though.

 

[34real]

Joe has more mouth on him than anything else and just because he wrecked a few cats jaws growing up doesn't mean shit in 2010,different generation and time period.

Roy,Tyson,Mayweather,shit a featherweight fighter could do damage to someone joe's size,Ive seen it done with a one two combo.

Joe has some people around him but remember a few years ago during marmorial day weekend him and his people got into with some haitians and he killed one of Joe's guys and shot the other.It didn't make much news because Joe walked away from it by leaving the state of florida.He's Gangsta but not everyone bowing down.

 

[BrownTurd]

There is no law that states that they are to be registered as deadly weapons in any state, HOWEVER, when under prosecution their knowledge and training will be seen as knowing the intent and repercussions of their actions.

In other words, if I hit you in the face with enough force to break your nose - I'd be charge with Felony 2 Assault and Battery.

If Roy Jones or Jet Lie hit you in the face with enough force to break your nose - they could be charged with a much higher crime of Attempted Murder because both Roy and Jet know due their extensive training that a blow to the nose could send cartilige and bone fragments into you brain and cause death.


Some case law:

oh I see now

 

[Cock Head Jones]

actually now that i think about it didnt papoose 2 piece fat joe a few years ago.

 

[mofo112]

Joe his HILARIOUS with these stories... i cry everytime..

 

[mathtest]

actually now that i think about it didnt papoose 2 piece fat joe a few years ago.

depends on who u belive, him or joe, they tell 2 completely diff stories

 

[^SpiderMan^]

LMAO @ you e-thugs who are clowning Fat Joe for not fighting Roy Jones 1v1.Most of you chumps ain't fighting the toughest ninja on your block,much less one of the best boxers ever.GTFOH!

 

[OutlawR.O.C.]

actually now that i think about it didnt papoose 2 piece fat joe a few years ago.

Naw Joe and his people stomped him out in a hotel room over him talking reckless on the radio about Joe with his wife (then girlfriend) Remy Ma.

50 Cent and his people got involved and released a photoshopped pic of Joe at the Knicks game eating popcorn with a black eye and bruised face (the pic was real but they photoshopped the bruises and eye jammy on there).

 

[aek_54]

I'd fight the fuckin cloverfield monster.

you'd lose against the Cloverfield monster

 

[RAY V.]

 

[TurellSmith]

End thread

 

[mathtest]

 

[Spectrum]

Dude if its for something I believe in or for someone I love, I'd fight the fuckin cloverfield monster.

Speak for yourself.

You wouldnt fight Roy Jones Jr. You would get knocked out by Roy Jones Jr.

 

[RAY V.]

yeah i remember this when they first showed it on hbo

 

[Spectrum]

i disagree to an extent. only a fool would BOX with roy jones or any other boxer. but its whatever.

yall ninjas are funny as hell.... a bum ass boxer would knock your ass out before you could blink... a world class fighter in his prime would knock your fucking block off..

 

[OutlawR.O.C.]

yall ninjas are funny as hell.... a bum ass boxer would knock your ass out before you could blink... a world class fighter in his prime would knock your fucking block off..

Basically.

A lot of these dudes perception of fighting came from movies in the 60's, 70's and 80's where they were just real slow one at a time punches.

Most niggaz think this is what a real street fight would resemble:

 

[Chase Bannon]

How come Fat Joe doesn't get props on this board?

 

[OutlawR.O.C.]

How come Fat Joe doesn't get props on this board?

Because he beefed with 50 Cent and there are a lot of groupies on the board