You are complaining over land that isn't yours, was took from somebody else. Your ancestors didnt choose to come over here neither.
WORD! If he aint mention he was black i could of swore it was a white man speaking.
Fuck illegal aliens
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WORD! If he aint mention he was black i could of swore it was a white man speaking.
L-O-Fucking-L at the brothers in this thread sounding exactly like the goddamn KKK. Yall niggas are lost.
Cosign. From some of the stuff I read in here, it seems like this thread belongs on Stormfront.
L-O-Fucking-L at the brothers in this thread sounding exactly like the goddamn KKK. Yall niggas are lost.
I feel ya!! I have those days too when all the bullshit gets to me. We been bending over backwards on this issue for years but, the truth is we created it. Instead of sending jobs over seas to china, japan etc. We should have been suporting our neighbors down under. Then we couild patronized each other and maybe all of this would not be. But since we didnt Im at a cross roads as to what to do about it.
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Dayam Dude, lighten up!! It's a porn discussion board!!
- Should we round them up and send them back?
- What about the American born children of illegal parents, how do we handle that?
- How do we assist those hispanic US citizens that dont know english? Removing signs with spanish on them could actually be dangerous!
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Dayam Dude, lighten up!! It's a porn discussion board!!
That IS NOT the case. Out here the opposite is true. The wetbacks have grown like a virus and the are taxing all the state's resources. The school system is so over burdened with illegal spawn that they are getting pushed through no matter what. In the LAUSD public schools, it's very common that kids with straight Fs on their report cards are allowed to advance to the next grade. Now most of the kids that are in the public school system are Mexican. And trust, most of them little bitches are pregnant by the age of 15.
One silver lining about this shitty economy is that they are taking their asses back to Mexico because manual labor out here is now sparse.
While I have absolutely no desire to "have their jobs", this does apply to youth, and Black youth especially.
Back in the day, during summer break, kids could get a job at Mickey Ds, <-- insert fast food joint here -->, or the car wash. Working kept many a child out of trouble and taught them how to appreciate a hard earned dollar. Not anymore. All the illegals/barely legal wetbacks got those jobs.
this I agree with.
A reader's quote from sfgate...
And so it came to pass that Black America became Cracka Rednecks.......
Who would have guessed that???
Who would have guessed that???
No, niggas like you are B-L-I-N-D as fuck
L-O-Fucking-L at the brothers in this thread sounding exactly like the goddamn KKK. Yall niggas are lost.
L-O-Fucking-L at the brothers in this thread sounding exactly like the goddamn KKK. Yall niggas are lost.
Very.
Before you come on here with those retarded ass post do some fucking research. The US does not have an official national language. English is the spoken language of the land but it was never voted in the constitution. And honestly it will never be voted into law
the OP is right...several of us have said this in years past but get drowned out in these great magnificent waves of BGOL intellectualism
these mexicans are right now, prepping their kids to be better, smarter, and on top of that as you said - bilingual. our kids don't stand a chance...
we shit on education, don't take it seriously, all of u niggas with baby mommas and kids you see once every now and again - they will be working for these illegals children when they are in their 30's and 40's....
You know what ... I think people can respect that ... the Anti-Immigration people need to grab their balls and say "Look We Don't Want To Let Them Stay Cause Our Drugged Up, Overweight, Lazy Kids Don't Stand a Chance ... so we deporting them"
I can respect that a LITTLE more ... can't condone it but it is better than all this fake nationalism and fear mongering imo
btw what thee HAIL You think a group of "outlaws" with nothing to lose living day to day are gonna do once you pull the rug from under them??
They risked their life and limb (literally they lose limbs all the time falling off the train) coming here you gonna deny them on some Debo swag??? Good luck with that...
You know what ... I think people can respect that ... the Anti-Immigration people need to grab their balls and say "Look We Don't Want To Let Them Stay Cause Our Drugged Up, Overweight, Lazy Kids Don't Stand a Chance ... so we deporting them"
I can respect that a LITTLE more ... can't condone it but it is better than all this fake nationalism and fear mongering imo
btw what thee HAIL You think a group of "outlaws" with nothing to lose living day to day are gonna do once you pull the rug from under them??
They risked their life and limb (literally they lose limbs all the time falling off the train) coming here you gonna deny them on some Debo swag??? Good luck with that...
These wetbacks aren't threatening anyone for higher paying jobs. They are failing miserably and they need to GTFO because THEY ARE DRAINING OUR RESOURCES.
Poll: Language a barrier for Latinos in schools
By HOPE YEN and CHRISTINE ARMARIO, Associated Press Writers – Thu Aug 5, 5:21 am ET
WASHINGTON – English only?
With Hispanic enrollment surging in schools, many Spanish-speaking parents are having trouble helping their children with homework or communicating with U.S. teachers as English-immersion classes proliferate in K-12.
An Associated Press-Univision poll highlights the language and cultural obstacles for the nation's Latinos, who lag behind others when it comes to graduating from high school.
The findings also raise questions about whether English-immersion does more to assimilate or isolate — a heated debate that has divided states, academics and even the U.S. Supreme Court. Arizona recently ordered its schools to remove teachers with heavy foreign accents from English-language instruction, while the Obama administration is seeking to push more multilingual teaching in K-12 classrooms.
"The language barrier is still a serious risk factor for Hispanics," said Michael Kirst, a Stanford University professor emeritus of education who helped analyze the survey. Even with many schools replacing Spanish with English in classrooms, for a student evaluated as learning English, "the odds of completing high school, and particularly college, significantly drops."
The nationwide poll, also sponsored by The Nielsen Company and Stanford University, found the vast majority of Hispanics — 78 percent — had children enrolled in K-12 classes that were taught mostly in English, compared with 3 percent in Spanish.
Just 20 percent of mainly Spanish-speaking parents say they were able to communicate "extremely well" with their child's school, compared with 35 percent of Hispanics who speak English fluently.
About 42 percent of the Spanish speakers said it was easy for them to help with their children's schoolwork, compared with 59 percent of the Hispanics who speak English well.
Children of Spanish-dominant parents also were less likely to seek help with homework from their families. Fifty-seven percent of those parents said their children came to them with school questions. That's compared with 80 percent for mainly English-speaking Hispanic parents, who also were more likely to send their children to relatives or friends for answers.
The hardships often center on language for Latino parents, who value a high school diploma more than the general population and want to support their children, according to the poll. But educators say the problems can be cultural, too, if some Hispanic parents feel less comfortable acting as vocal advocates for education, such as meeting with teachers or lobbying for an extra honors class.
Under federal law, if the parents' English is limited, schools must provide notices and information about student activities in a language they can understand. The Education Department's Office for Civil Rights is now reviewing some school districts to see if students are being denied a fair education.
"It's difficult for me," said Carmen Arevalo, 30, who arrived in the United States 12 years ago from El Salvador and doesn't speak English. Arevalo has an 8-year-old son and 7-year-old daughter in Miami public schools and says she has constant challenges with communication, even though many of her children's teachers speak English and Spanish.
"Sometimes I feel uncomfortable, because sometimes I don't know what they will be saying to the children," Arevalo said as she watched her son play soccer.
Roxana Montoya, an El Salvador native in Miami who is learning to speak English, says she often struggled to help her 12-year-old son with school. Montoya said she would check the Internet to translate her questions for teachers and spend hours going through his middle-school coursework. "He'd get out at 3 and at 9, we still wouldn't be done with the homework," she said.
The educational stakes are high.
Roughly 1 in 5 people in the U.S. speaks a language other than English at home, with Hispanics representing the largest share, according to 2009 census data. Hispanics also now make up one-fourth of the nation's kindergartners, part of a historic trend in which minorities are projected to become the new U.S. majority by midcentury.
Still, Hispanics are nearly three times as likely than the general U.S. population to drop out of high school, and half as likely to earn a bachelor's degree.
Other AP-Univision poll findings:
_Many Hispanics lack confidence in the quality of education at their local public schools. About 47 percent said they believed the K-12 schools were excellent or good, compared with 48 percent who described them as "fair," "poor" or "very poor."
_About 63 percent of Hispanics believe it would help the U.S. economy "a lot" if more students completed high school, compared with 40 percent for the general population.
Citing some of the racial gaps, Education Secretary Arne Duncan is urging parents to take more responsibility. He said the government will require districts to get input from communities on ways to improve underperforming schools before receiving federal money.
The Education Department also wants to devote an additional $50 million next year to promote English learning. Part of that will be used for research and development of "dual-language immersion," a bilingual approach gaining favor among many linguists.
Dual-immersion is a shift from the direction of states such as California, Arizona and Massachusetts, where voters have largely banned bilingual classes. On a broader level, some 30 states and numerous localities have passed laws making English the official language, a move that critics say will lead to more cuts in bilingual programs.
The debate has splintered the Supreme Court, which sided 5-4 with Arizona last year in saying the federal government should not supervise the state's spending for teaching students who don't speak English.
Doris Chiquito, 30, of Miami, who was born in the U.S. to Ecuadorean parents, is among those who would like their children to value Hispanic culture. Chiquito, fluent in English, says she enrolled her 11-year-old son and 8-year-old daughter in bilingual classes so they would also speak Spanish and not "feel ashamed of being Hispanic."
Her daughter, Ariana Gonzalez, says she likes having classes in both languages.
"It helps me learn Spanish, and I know how to talk with my grandparents," she said. "I like that I get to speak English because some of my friends don't know Spanish, and then I talk to them in English."
The AP-Univision Poll was conducted from March 11 to June 3 by the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago. Using a sample of Hispanic households provided by The Nielsen Company, 1,521 Hispanics were interviewed in English and Spanish, mostly by mail but also by telephone and the Internet. The margin of sampling error was plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
Stanford University's participation in the study was made possible by a grant from The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
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Associated Press Polling Director Trevor Tompson and AP News Survey Specialist Dennis Junius contributed to this report. Armario reported from Miami.
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Online:
AP-Univision Poll: http://surveys.ap.org/
Poll: Language a barrier for Latinos in schools
By HOPE YEN and CHRISTINE ARMARIO, Associated Press Writers – Thu Aug 5, 5:21 am ET
WASHINGTON – English only?
With Hispanic enrollment surging in schools, many Spanish-speaking parents are having trouble helping their children with homework or communicating with U.S. teachers as English-immersion classes proliferate in K-12.
An Associated Press-Univision poll highlights the language and cultural obstacles for the nation's Latinos, who lag behind others when it comes to graduating from high school.
The findings also raise questions about whether English-immersion does more to assimilate or isolate — a heated debate that has divided states, academics and even the U.S. Supreme Court. Arizona recently ordered its schools to remove teachers with heavy foreign accents from English-language instruction, while the Obama administration is seeking to push more multilingual teaching in K-12 classrooms.
"The language barrier is still a serious risk factor for Hispanics," said Michael Kirst, a Stanford University professor emeritus of education who helped analyze the survey. Even with many schools replacing Spanish with English in classrooms, for a student evaluated as learning English, "the odds of completing high school, and particularly college, significantly drops."
The nationwide poll, also sponsored by The Nielsen Company and Stanford University, found the vast majority of Hispanics — 78 percent — had children enrolled in K-12 classes that were taught mostly in English, compared with 3 percent in Spanish.
Just 20 percent of mainly Spanish-speaking parents say they were able to communicate "extremely well" with their child's school, compared with 35 percent of Hispanics who speak English fluently.
About 42 percent of the Spanish speakers said it was easy for them to help with their children's schoolwork, compared with 59 percent of the Hispanics who speak English well.
Children of Spanish-dominant parents also were less likely to seek help with homework from their families. Fifty-seven percent of those parents said their children came to them with school questions. That's compared with 80 percent for mainly English-speaking Hispanic parents, who also were more likely to send their children to relatives or friends for answers.
The hardships often center on language for Latino parents, who value a high school diploma more than the general population and want to support their children, according to the poll. But educators say the problems can be cultural, too, if some Hispanic parents feel less comfortable acting as vocal advocates for education, such as meeting with teachers or lobbying for an extra honors class.
Under federal law, if the parents' English is limited, schools must provide notices and information about student activities in a language they can understand. The Education Department's Office for Civil Rights is now reviewing some school districts to see if students are being denied a fair education.
"It's difficult for me," said Carmen Arevalo, 30, who arrived in the United States 12 years ago from El Salvador and doesn't speak English. Arevalo has an 8-year-old son and 7-year-old daughter in Miami public schools and says she has constant challenges with communication, even though many of her children's teachers speak English and Spanish.
"Sometimes I feel uncomfortable, because sometimes I don't know what they will be saying to the children," Arevalo said as she watched her son play soccer.
Roxana Montoya, an El Salvador native in Miami who is learning to speak English, says she often struggled to help her 12-year-old son with school. Montoya said she would check the Internet to translate her questions for teachers and spend hours going through his middle-school coursework. "He'd get out at 3 and at 9, we still wouldn't be done with the homework," she said.
The educational stakes are high.
Roughly 1 in 5 people in the U.S. speaks a language other than English at home, with Hispanics representing the largest share, according to 2009 census data. Hispanics also now make up one-fourth of the nation's kindergartners, part of a historic trend in which minorities are projected to become the new U.S. majority by midcentury.
Still, Hispanics are nearly three times as likely than the general U.S. population to drop out of high school, and half as likely to earn a bachelor's degree.
Other AP-Univision poll findings:
_Many Hispanics lack confidence in the quality of education at their local public schools. About 47 percent said they believed the K-12 schools were excellent or good, compared with 48 percent who described them as "fair," "poor" or "very poor."
_About 63 percent of Hispanics believe it would help the U.S. economy "a lot" if more students completed high school, compared with 40 percent for the general population.
Citing some of the racial gaps, Education Secretary Arne Duncan is urging parents to take more responsibility. He said the government will require districts to get input from communities on ways to improve underperforming schools before receiving federal money.
The Education Department also wants to devote an additional $50 million next year to promote English learning. Part of that will be used for research and development of "dual-language immersion," a bilingual approach gaining favor among many linguists.
Dual-immersion is a shift from the direction of states such as California, Arizona and Massachusetts, where voters have largely banned bilingual classes. On a broader level, some 30 states and numerous localities have passed laws making English the official language, a move that critics say will lead to more cuts in bilingual programs.
The debate has splintered the Supreme Court, which sided 5-4 with Arizona last year in saying the federal government should not supervise the state's spending for teaching students who don't speak English.
Doris Chiquito, 30, of Miami, who was born in the U.S. to Ecuadorean parents, is among those who would like their children to value Hispanic culture. Chiquito, fluent in English, says she enrolled her 11-year-old son and 8-year-old daughter in bilingual classes so they would also speak Spanish and not "feel ashamed of being Hispanic."
Her daughter, Ariana Gonzalez, says she likes having classes in both languages.
"It helps me learn Spanish, and I know how to talk with my grandparents," she said. "I like that I get to speak English because some of my friends don't know Spanish, and then I talk to them in English."
The AP-Univision Poll was conducted from March 11 to June 3 by the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago. Using a sample of Hispanic households provided by The Nielsen Company, 1,521 Hispanics were interviewed in English and Spanish, mostly by mail but also by telephone and the Internet. The margin of sampling error was plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
Stanford University's participation in the study was made possible by a grant from The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
___
Associated Press Polling Director Trevor Tompson and AP News Survey Specialist Dennis Junius contributed to this report. Armario reported from Miami.
___
Online:
AP-Univision Poll: http://surveys.ap.org/
To me, this debate is ludicrous. Before the USA was a country a big part of the land was owned by Spain, a big proportion of the US population has always been hispanic. Proof of that is the number of States/Cities that have hispanic names. The difference now is that the hispanic population is gaining economic power and therefore can ask to be heard.
This should be seen as an oportunity more than anything else. Anyway this is just the begining, arabic languages and asian languages will also be necessary to compete in this world economy. The more languages you learn the better it is.
This should be seen as an oportunity more than anything else. Anyway this is just the begining, arabic languages and asian languages will also be necessary to compete in this world economy. The more languages you learn the better it is.
^^^^^^^^^^
or you could let your kids learn Spanish......I mean how hard can it be???
I'm also against illegal immigration but your thinking is flawed. People who dont speak English are at a huge disadvantage here in the USA. Yes they work at KFC, McDonalds, etc... but thats about the best you can do if you dont know English. I can assure you you wont see any many if any executives that cant speak English.
I dont believe in amnesty but do believe that all illegals that are here should be required to pay fines and taxes and speak English at a certain level. Its also important to note that all illegals are hispanics. Many enter the country legally but overstay their visas.
Florida is a wrap!
First off, you went to florida assuming that place wasn't a shit hole, immigrant wasteland. Fuck florida. Spanish always will be the first language there. But, don't get it twisted. They know english, they just don't give a fuck about using it. How do you think they go the jobs and shit like that? They learn it, then go back to speaking spanish. Fucking racists ass cuban and dominicans down there can lick balls.
First off, you went to florida assuming that place wasn't a shit hole, immigrant wasteland. Fuck florida. Spanish always will be the first language there. But, don't get it twisted. They know english, they just don't give a fuck about using it. How do you think they go the jobs and shit like that? They learn it, then go back to speaking spanish. Fucking racists ass cuban and dominicans down there can lick balls.
We are all on this globe forever. This repression is GLOBAL. The economic practices of the world are relevant here. You're not getting a job because the government expanded the empire in the 90's and jobs left our borders.
You have to learn spanish but, whats the problem with that. Why not learn some chinese too damn. For someone who sends their children to a private school, you better expect that school to teach your kids a language.
I agree that having babies and being here illegally shouldnt be encouraged. However, both things to me involve un-equal education. Some would say the same thing about our Black sisters and brothers in just about any city you go to. For decades "Black" Americans were thought of as illiterate. We needed a civil rights act, education reforms and more to try to level the playing field.
I think if you direct your anger at Latinos you'll be wasting your time brother. At the end of the day, it's the institutions that bare the responsibility. I am an institution. I speak spanish as much as I can. I have built bridges. Don't walk away from great expectation. Instead, learn how to unite latinos and blacks. Use the brotherhood to leverage better living conditions for us. After all, we live among each other.
PS. I'd say the same thing I said here to any Latino. Learn english, build bridges and quit directing racism towards your black brothers. Unite and take ownership of your surroundings by expanding your horizons.
You have to learn spanish but, whats the problem with that. Why not learn some chinese too damn. For someone who sends their children to a private school, you better expect that school to teach your kids a language.
I agree that having babies and being here illegally shouldnt be encouraged. However, both things to me involve un-equal education. Some would say the same thing about our Black sisters and brothers in just about any city you go to. For decades "Black" Americans were thought of as illiterate. We needed a civil rights act, education reforms and more to try to level the playing field.
I think if you direct your anger at Latinos you'll be wasting your time brother. At the end of the day, it's the institutions that bare the responsibility. I am an institution. I speak spanish as much as I can. I have built bridges. Don't walk away from great expectation. Instead, learn how to unite latinos and blacks. Use the brotherhood to leverage better living conditions for us. After all, we live among each other.
PS. I'd say the same thing I said here to any Latino. Learn english, build bridges and quit directing racism towards your black brothers. Unite and take ownership of your surroundings by expanding your horizons.