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So Naruto was not only able to learned his dad's jutsu (how?), but was able to improve on the jutsu --in no time flat-- and then was able to teleport across the room WITHOUT a tag on his target.the shit is getting out of hand now.
Still not certain it is his exactly his father's jutsu just b/c they said 'yellow flash'. I can accept him being able to move that fast since he absorbed some of the 9 tails chakra. It is probably similar to his father's but I don't think it is the same. I think they just said that to pay homage to the 4th & the fact that Naruto is his son.
I think Naruto should work on his genjutsu if he plans on beating Sasuke or atleast learn how to break it.....I mean he still has trouble doing that
I would not be surprised if he can see 100 miles away or see thru walls
See thru walls? That MF is going to be able to see thru reality. He is probably going to be able to see spirits too on some otherworldly shit.
See thru walls? That MF is going to be able to see thru reality. He is probably going to be able to see spirits too on some otherworldly shit.
frankly, it's about time Naruto was on that shit. Son of the 4th Hokage should be able to do something other then Kage Bushin all the damn time, because I'm sick to death of that jutsu, except when he uses it in clever new ways (which are few and FAR between) For too long they've had him being the hapless chump to Sasuke's Tensei. I mean Gaara, who never had control over the One-Tail was pretty damn impressive and they never mention him being a ninja genius, so why not Naruto too?
can you imagine Sage mode mixed with Body of Sage of the 9 paths? C-R-A-Z-Y.
Having said all that, I would like to see how some of the other leaf ninja have progressed in skill, but too much time is wasted on Sasuke. Kishi should just have sasuke open up a wormhole to another dimension with that stupidly overpowered DoJutsu, and let have his own manga on another world.lol
can you imagine Sage mode mixed with Body of Sage of the 9 paths? C-R-A-Z-Y.
Having said all that, I would like to see how some of the other leaf ninja have progressed in skill, but too much time is wasted on Sasuke. Kishi should just have sasuke open up a wormhole to another dimension with that stupidly overpowered DoJutsu, and let have his own manga on another world.lol
See thru walls? That MF is going to be able to see thru reality. He is probably going to be able to see spirits too on some otherworldly shit.
If that happens Naruto would be able to learn Jutsu from other spirits. Interesting.
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Now won't that be some bullshit !
basically
I would not be surprised if he can see 100 miles away or see thru walls
Knowing Kishi I won't be surprised if he takes that turn on his favorite Emo Thug, my thing is I'm hoping the arsehole can develop the romantic link btw Hinata and Naruto chick saves she loves you and flies into the heat of battle to save your sorry arse is more than a winner in my book, plus she's cute and have some freaky eyes, man Slap chop one time quick beat out and breed it skin she out and make she sparkle!
You guys really need to stop looking for romance in this story.
Bro I'll agree with you on that point, but sadly though the story is turning into an Emo love fest of epic proportions, I'm not inclined into reading it anymore if it goes down that path!
Knowing Kishi I won't be surprised if he takes that turn on his favorite Emo Thug, my thing is I'm hoping the arsehole can develop the romantic link btw Hinata and Naruto chick saves she loves you and flies into the heat of battle to save your sorry arse is more than a winner in my book, plus she's cute and have some freaky eyes, man Slap chop one time quick beat out and breed it skin she out and make she sparkle!
Like I said last year he knows that everyone wants to see her and Naruto together but hes to fuckin stubborn to do it and shit.....Why even entertain the thought of Naruto and Sakura when Sakura isnt all that good lookin and he knows she wants Sasuke makes no fuckin sense at all
I've been sayin this for along time....Naruto needed a major power boost after he did his training with Jiraiya.....At that time Sasuke had the Curse Seal,his sharingan activated , and Chidori.
Even after he learned Rasengan he kept doing the whole Mass Shadow Clone and Rasengan combo it was getting old...this is why I dont understand why people had a problem with him learning the Wind Rasengan and Sage Mode when Sasuke learned Tsukuyomi,Susanoo and Amaterasu,Raikiri(an upgraded version of Chidori) on top of that about to get his brothers eyes and learned Kirin can you imagine if Sasuke still had the Cursed Seal
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You guys really need to stop looking for romance in this story.
Not just us ladies like to see dramatic effect kid. But i have a question. Is Tsunade considered an equal with Orochimaru and Jiraiya? Jiraiya is scared of her. He knows how powerful she is. And she did square off against Orrochimaru. So by saying that, how is she in comparison to Itachi? And the 4th? It seems as if she doesn't get alot of play in terms of threat to the others.
I was thinking of the fight between Jiraiya and Pain. Pain was going all out to kill Jiraiya. While Pain came to the village and fought the village by himself. Single handedly destroying it. Taking on all the ninja in the village. And it really kind of pumps up how powerful Jiraiya was. And the other Sanin. But....Orrochimaru couldn't take Itachi....?
But i have a question. Is Tsunade considered an equal with Orochimaru and Jiraiya? Jiraiya is scared of her. He knows how powerful she is. And she did square off against Orrochimaru. So by saying that, how is she in comparison to Itachi? And the 4th? It seems as if she doesn't get alot of play in terms of threat to the others.
I was thinking of the fight between Jiraiya and Pain. Pain was going all out to kill Jiraiya. While Pain came to the village and fought the village by himself. Single handedly destroying it. Taking on all the ninja in the village. And it really kind of pumps up how powerful Jiraiya was. And the other Sanin. But....Orrochimaru couldn't take Itachi....?
Jiraiya,Minato and Itachi would beat Tsunade easily.......imo
I consider her the weakest member of the Sannins
Jiraiya
Orochimaru
Tsunade
Jiraiya and Orochimaru is probably close when it comes to the overall fighting but I give the slight edge to Jiraiya due to him knowing Sage Mode.
But i have a question. Is Tsunade considered an equal with Orochimaru and Jiraiya? Jiraiya is scared of her. He knows how powerful she is. And she did square off against Orrochimaru. So by saying that, how is she in comparison to Itachi? And the 4th? It seems as if she doesn't get alot of play in terms of threat to the others.
Wait a second you're a chic damn
I was thinking of the fight between Jiraiya and Pain. Pain was going all out to kill Jiraiya. While Pain came to the village and fought the village by himself. Single handedly destroying it. Taking on all the ninja in the village. And it really kind of pumps up how powerful Jiraiya was. And the other Sanin. But....Orrochimaru couldn't take Itachi....?
If you look at how Sasuke, Naruto and Sakura are currently they're a reflection on the Sannins I also believe that's how their 'strength' is supposed to be measured, I can't really add much to the whole how come Orochimaru wasn't able to defeat Itachi theory, but I've got 1 possible theory to that,he was looking for the 'Ultimate Blood Line' limit which would make his immortal technique unconquerable, the thing is, if he had taken the time to look after the abandoned kids in the Rain Village he'd have been able to have gotten his own Rikundo Body,which would've made his greatest feat possible, also I believe that Itachi would've been able to see through all of his Ninjutsu tactics using the Sharigan, remember the Sharigan can show you where the 'true ninja' is, he only felt 'safe' when Sasuke was unable to keep him 'bottled' inside himself and well we all know the outcome of that battle.
We know how the romance thing goes in these types of story, the main character likes a girl, And during their adventures together they grow closer and feeling develop. The problem is we never see their relationship, we just assume that they are in love because in 20 secs we quick shots of them holding hands then kissing then end scene, roll credits series over.
Naurto won't standing outside Hinata window with 4 shadow clones singing "Cry for You" You guys are just setting yourself up for disappointment.
I think the Pain invasion just absolutely solidify her role, she's a medic and in case of extreme emergency she is still a medic nin. Even though with one blow she'll hit you so hard it'll tie your momma's fallopian tube, I don't think she every be portrayed as strong as her male counterparts.
I don't know about Oro, only excuse I could come up with is that if he wasn't lusting after the Sharingan he would probably put up a better fight.
Imo i think the three Sanin are supposed to represent the extremes of 3 different ninja types at the peak or top level of the jutsu Jiraya was basically a master of Ninjutsu and Taijutsu, Orochimaru was a master of Genjutsu and Tsunade is master of chakra control and healing jutsu i believe the would have been the ulitmate team but in a single fight one on one it depends who there opponent is i believe they are skilled enough to go toe to toe with anyone whose the strongest out of the 3 its anybodies guess
This ep was great. Gai hittin niggas wit the peoples elbow.
Jiraiya is "scared" of Tsunade the same way Naruto is scared of Sakura.
That's because Naruto and Jiraiya would never hit Sakura and Tsunade back.
But in a "serious" fight, Jiraiya would wipe the floor with Tsunade.
When Jiraiya said Tsunade almost killed him, it's because he tried to look at her naked in the bathhouse and she drilled him one. http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-291/page008.html
He wasnt fighting her. And he never will. So he's scared of her because he knows how much damage she can dish out.
She's a medical ninja, so she's not really a fighter type.
She has great chakra control (which allows her to concentrate chakra to one point in her body, usually the fists, and let it explode out from there to increase her damage) and she's good with countering poisons/venom/etc.
If you can protect yourself against her kicks/punches, she's not going to be much of a threat to the top tier fighters.
I'm sorry, and this isnt a knock on Jiraiya, because this applies to everyone outside of current Naruto and Rikudou Sennin,
but Jiraiya will never beat Pein going all out.
If Pein was going all out, he would use all 6 powers at once.
6 bodied Pein vs anybody (and whatever summons they want to use) is impossible to beat. That's why Kishi (the author) never wrote a Pein battle like that and had to kill him off.
Deva Realm, just by himself, defeated all of Naruto's summons, Pa, and SAGE Naruto with just 2 moves, Shinra Tensei (Push) & Banshō Ten'in (Pull).
Deva Realm didnt even fight Jiraiya and Jiraiya still lost.
And in the manga, we saw that Jiriaya's Taijutsu/Ninjutsu wont work against 3, let alone 6 Pein bodies, because of the shared vision they have.
Jiriya's fastest attack (his own words) was blocked by Animal Realm standing with his back turned, point blank range
Any other SAGE Ninjutsu Jiriya had, got absorbed
And if Jiriaya initiates a Taijutsu battle (Martial Arts), it will get blocked.
And if for some reason a Pein body dies, he gets resurrected back to life
Also, Ma/Pa will not be able to use the strongest Sage Mode attack, Frog Song, because as we see, one Banshō Ten'in (pull) is good enough to kill either frog quickly.
And if Pein wanted to REALLY be an asshole, he could used 1 of 2 attacks, neither which any human is escaping.
Chibaku Tensei (Look at the scale of that Ball and the ground and imagine a tiny human body being condensed inside of it)
or he can use his real body and use Kuchiyose: Gedo Mazo (Soul Sucker)
Not only are those 2 attacks going to kill you immediately, they're killing the SQUAD you came with immediately.
There's no dodging or blocking these, the only thing you can do is run away.
Like I said, Pein (6 bodies and powers at once) is too strong for just one person+summons.
That's why Kishi nerfed Pein in both his fights.
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I'm not gonna quote your entire post Jae, but you basically summed up my whole problem with Naruto defeating Pain. I mean I saw it but I just cant believe it, he should not have won.
I couldnt believe how poor that episode was animated
Jae....i have some points of contention
1. Pein himself said that if Jiraiya figured out how his bodies worked and was able to piece it together he would have won.
2. Jiraiya told Tsunade that if she ever betrayed the Leaf he would kill her. That and her reaction told me all I needed to know about the ranking of the sennins Jiraiya>Orochimaru>>Tsunade
3. Naruto won for a number of reasons:
The leaf figured out how the bodies worked
sage mode
jiraiya's training (shadow shuriken in sage mode)
kyuubi
Nagato's illness
Nagato over exerting himself when he crushed konoha
kyuubi (yea I know)
Summons
Ma and Pa toad (whatever their names are)
1. Pein himself said that if Jiraiya figured out how his bodies worked and was able to piece it together he would have won.
2. Jiraiya told Tsunade that if she ever betrayed the Leaf he would kill her. That and her reaction told me all I needed to know about the ranking of the sennins Jiraiya>Orochimaru>>Tsunade
3. Naruto won for a number of reasons:
The leaf figured out how the bodies worked
sage mode
jiraiya's training (shadow shuriken in sage mode)
kyuubi
Nagato's illness
Nagato over exerting himself when he crushed konoha
kyuubi (yea I know)
Summons
Ma and Pa toad (whatever their names are)
Kishi Hyperbole.
Because not only dosent that make sense, how would Pein even know that?
Pein can cancel all Jiraiya's attacks except Toad Bind. Which cant be used outside or in very large spaces like when he fought the 3 Peins.
Does he know about some secret attack Jiraiya has that can defeat all 6 Peins at once? (Seeing as how Pein didnt even know about Sage Mode, i doubt it).
Pein said Jiraiya would've won if he knew the secret-- "the real one not being among them."
How does that help in in a battle where Nagato's not included?
See, To even find Nagato, he needs to get stabbed with a black Chakra rod to find Nagato's signal.
Which means he has to get up close to Deva Realm and the 5 others at the same time to get that.
He cant just sneak away and try to look for Nagato. Jiraiya cant hide either because Nagato can track Jiraiya just by making it rain.
And if by some miracle Jman did happen to find Nagato, Nagato has the power to summon, which means he can summon all 6 bodies to his location.
Now not only does Jiriya have to fight 6 Peins by himself, he has to watch out for Nagato's Kuchiyose: Gedo Mazo now.
Basically all that means is that one way or another, he's going to have to defeat all 6 peins first, before going to find Nagato.
So just knowing Peins secret isnt going to make Pein lose.
Jiraiya's Ninjutsu wont work on 6 Peins.
(Animal Realm or Preta Realm can summon protection for their teammates, while the other 4 Peins counterattack)
Jiraiya's Taijutsu will not work on 6 Peins.
(Shared vision between 6 bodies, Jiraiya said just 3 bodies was impossible)
Frog Song wont work.
(Ma & Pa dont even have to be killed, they just have to be interrupted, and Deva Realm can do either easily with Shinra Tensei or Banshō Ten'in, while that leaves the other 5 Peins to attack Jiraiya)
Boss Summons wont work
(Either Deva Realms Shinra Tensei takes them all out - or Animal Realm can distract the Boss Frog Summons by spamming his animals on them, like that multiplying Dog that never dies, while the other 5 Peins attack Jiraiya)
Just by knowing Nagatos "secret", Jiraiya still dosent have the arsenal to defeat 6 Peins at once.
We already saw 90% percent of his attacks wont work.
Not to mention Jiraiya has no way to protect himself against
Chibaku Tensei if Deva decides to use it.
Chibaku Tensei vs any ninja = win for Dev Realm, whether you knew about Nagato's secret or not.
So what can Jiraiya possibly do to 6 Peins, even with full knowledge?
Unless Jiraiya has Batman like ability, which would mean Jiraiya + prep time > any ninja, Shinigami, DC or Marvel superhero
We agree here. If Jman gets serious, he could kill her easily because his love for Konaha is stronger then his love for her.
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Pein fight has to have outside factors for him to lose. It's never 6Peins vs Ninja+his summons.
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I gots a few questions of the chapters lately
1.I remember Jiraiya or someone stating that when Naruto goes into Kyuubi mode he damages his body. So the more tails he has the more progressive the damage gets right? So how come after he went 8-tails and pain trapped him in the chibaku tensei and he found his answer was he basically %100?
2. How the hell does Kushina know all about Madara's and the 4th fight when she was unconscious and near death the whole time? I call author screw up on this, Kishimoto should've done it when he talked with his dad during the Pain fight.
3. How come Marada and his younger brother simply didnt exchange eyes so that they both could have the Eternal Mangekyo?
1.I remember Jiraiya or someone stating that when Naruto goes into Kyuubi mode he damages his body. So the more tails he has the more progressive the damage gets right? So how come after he went 8-tails and pain trapped him in the chibaku tensei and he found his answer was he basically %100?
2. How the hell does Kushina know all about Madara's and the 4th fight when she was unconscious and near death the whole time? I call author screw up on this, Kishimoto should've done it when he talked with his dad during the Pain fight.
3. How come Marada and his younger brother simply didnt exchange eyes so that they both could have the Eternal Mangekyo?
Because he saw his father & it made everything all better again. Yellow Flash reset AKA... Kishi said - FUCK IT, I WROTE THIS!
Kishi said - FUCK IT, I WROTE THIS! Part Deux!
Because such a loophole would have been too easy. Kishi demands that someone dies because... Kishi said - FUCK IT, I WROTE THIS! Part Three!
And that animation gif you have from that wacky Naruto ep was some BS. The animation team for that particular ep did not give a single fuck about how it looked. Like they were trippin on acid or something while doing their work...
"Just go with it"
Plot no jutsu
3. Eternal Mangekyou Sharningan is the combination of 2 sets of Mangekyou Sharningans eyes.
Basically, the 4 eyes have to be combined to form 2 eyes, which would equal EMS.
The pictures below shows that you have to combine them, because each brothers unique "eye art" forms on the new EMS eyes.
Izuna (Madara's younger brother)
Madara
Madara's EMS (See both brothers original eye art combined together)
Madara
Madara's EMS (See both brothers original eye art combined together)
So its basically Madara+Izuna EMS
Sasuke+ Itachi EMS
Now HOW they combine 2 sets of eyes, i have no clue.
I'm guessing "ninja world eye surgery no jutsu".
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Sasuke+ Itachi EMS
Hmmm I think Sasuke's will look like F. except Itachi's mangekyou will be full size
I dunno, reading the manga leads me to believe they need the whole eye instead of just the iris.This eye surgery stuff is ridiculous though, they remove eyes by yanking them out of eye sockets with bare hands, eye surgery in dirty caves, dont even worry about any germs or bacteria.
I just watched the final fight with Itachi and Sasuke again and i really can tell now that the writer has fallen off a whole lot. Nothing so far has been as emotionally gripping and impacting as that final fight.
Because kyuubi also heals Naruto, and it doesn't take forever for him to get into sage mode he still had one shadow clone left gathering nature energy.
Whats the alternative have Madara Kushina and Minato all show up in Naruto head and they all tell him what happened that night?
The alternative is to write it in a way that makes sense. Having someone who wasnt there/unconscious/near death and died right after telling a story she shouldnt know doesnt make any.
Even just transforming into a 4 tailed form, he needs help to recuperate from those injuries.
The first time we saw Naruto go into 4 tailed form, he lay unconscious, burned to a crisp after returning to human form.
If Sakura wasnt there to give him medical aid, who knows what would have happened. (Top Right Panel)
Sakura said:
And that was only a 4 Tailed transformation.
Naruto was in 9 Tailed form, (Bottom left middle panel says 9)
thats more then double "unconscious, & crispy" 4 tail damage.
Yet right after the 4th seals back up the Kyuubi,
Naruto on the next page, (which probably means a second later) pops out Chibaku Tensei undamaged?
It makes it seem like going 9tails has no repercussions on the body. His regular body should be destroyed after 9tails if 4 tails just about killed him.
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It makes it seem like going 9tails has no repercussions on the body. His regular body should be destroyed after 9tails if 4 tails just about killed him.[/QUOTE]
Well technically 'Kishi' got himself an Out when he said that once you enter Sage Mode you're supposed to be nearly 'invincible', stronger, heal faster, be almost invulnerable, you know a true GI Joe,
Well technically 'Kishi' got himself an Out when he said that once you enter Sage Mode you're supposed to be nearly 'invincible', stronger, heal faster, be almost invulnerable, you know a true GI Joe,
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