Knicks Making offers....

it just came out that it was pat riley spreading those rumors and lebron actually liked the knicks pitch...it seems a lot of eastern conference teams are fearful of the knicks becoming a super power. i mean the dead give away from the shot at donnie being a wheelchair after having neck surgery...lebron doesn't seem like that kinda asshole to hold donnie in the wrong for that...and the dude who wrote the story is a known knick hater.

bosh wants a max deal and miami isn't offering it and wade may leave...so riley is trying to fuck up the next likely team...

the current deal is lebron, jj and ama're all take 11mil deals in the and dolan will pay them bonuses(which don't count against the cap) to make up the difference and next off season they'd go after melo with the same deal.

starting at 11.5 million with 8% raise over 5 years projection below.

11.5
12.42
13.41
14.48
15.65

right now ama're is trying to get lebron to agree b/c he and jj have an agreement with each other to do that, atl offered joe big money yet he hasn't signed yet and ama're turned down 96mil from phx...

guess we'll all find out next week but thats the way the knicks would get 3 maxes and a 4th next season...

and apparently teams in the east don't like the idea of facing a team with ama're, lebron, melo, and joe johnson...

i'm glad it was revealed that the bad press about the pitch came from pat riley...

anyway now that that's clear we'll see who lebron liked most since apparently both teams made a great pitch to him.

Link?
 

was on espn radio out here in ny like an hour ago...several teams in the east are trying to attack the knicks in hopes of making no one sign with them out of fear the knicks will turn into a powerhouse overnight b/c several players have expressed interest in coming to ny.
 
on sportscenter they just said that the knicks got 2 offers for lebron:

a 5-year $95 milli deal

and a 5 year $55 million deal... to make room for another free agent

LeBron's reaction when informed of the Knicks proposal...
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Why the fuck would he take SO MUCH LESS cheese... for the Team!?!?!? Yeah Right!!! :lol:
 
Nowhere yet. But if they re-sign him they're going to fuck with their salary cap.




:lol: I'm trying to tell niggas this. Don't matter who they get. You don't win a championship by just buying one. You just don't. Lakers bought Shaq but they drafted or traded for Kobe on draft night. You can't buy a championship. Yankees do it but shit for all the years they try to buy one you'd think they'd have even more titles.

Man the Knicks aint Winning shit and it's not because of signing or not signing these Free Agents! These clowns ain't winning shit in Mike D's system!?!?!? Yeah they may get some wins and some ESPN burn, but come playoff time those no Defense playing assed nicca ain't winning shit!!!
 
it just came out that it was pat riley spreading those rumors and lebron actually liked the knicks pitch...it seems a lot of eastern conference teams are fearful of the knicks becoming a super power. i mean the dead give away from the shot at donnie being a wheelchair after having neck surgery...lebron doesn't seem like that kinda asshole to hold donnie in the wrong for that...and the dude who wrote the story is a known knick hater.

bosh wants a max deal and miami isn't offering it and wade may leave...so riley is trying to fuck up the next likely team...

the current deal is lebron, jj and ama're all take 11mil deals in the and dolan will pay them bonuses(which don't count against the cap) to make up the difference and next off season they'd go after melo with the same deal.

starting at 11.5 million with 8% raise over 5 years projection below.

11.5
12.42
13.41
14.48
15.65

right now ama're is trying to get lebron to agree b/c he and jj have an agreement with each other to do that, atl offered joe big money yet he hasn't signed yet and ama're turned down 96mil from phx...

guess we'll all find out next week but thats the way the knicks would get 3 maxes and a 4th next season...

and apparently teams in the east don't like the idea of facing a team with ama're, lebron, melo, and joe johnson...

i'm glad it was revealed that the bad press about the pitch came from pat riley...

anyway now that that's clear we'll see who lebron liked most since apparently both teams made a great pitch to him.

oh whatever nigga :lol::lol:

Allan Houston himself said Lebron didn't give much feedback :lol::lol:

New York papers are saying this not Pat Riley.

How the hell the Knicks powerpoint leaked :lol::lol:

They prob told Lebron to keep it and he said fuck this shit and threw it on the internet.

Are these niggaz serious??:lol::lol:
 
people in the know said it came from pat riley...he'll be damned if the knicks get good especially if he loses wade....

u seem stuck on him not giving feedback...so what? did the dude have to jump up and down?

from all sources he's been watching the knicks for years, what more does he need to ask? 3 hours of pitch to him they broke everything down plus he paid attention all these years...exactly what kinda feedback does he need to give grown men? does he need to clap and say good job?

just b/c the nets got happy don't mean jack all the teams that met with lebron said the same thing...

shit leaks all the time its not hard to get...

least its now known the source behind the bullshit is pat riley...

oh whatever nigga :lol::lol:

Allan Houston himself said Lebron didn't give much feedback :lol::lol:

New York papers are saying this not Pat Riley.

How the hell the Knicks powerpoint leaked :lol::lol:

They prob told Lebron to keep it and he said fuck this shit and threw it on the internet.

Are these niggaz serious??:lol::lol:
 
it just came out that it was pat riley spreading those rumors and lebron actually liked the knicks pitch...it seems a lot of eastern conference teams are fearful of the knicks becoming a super power. i mean the dead give away from the shot at donnie being a wheelchair after having neck surgery...lebron doesn't seem like that kinda asshole to hold donnie in the wrong for that...and the dude who wrote the story is a known knick hater.

bosh wants a max deal and miami isn't offering it and wade may leave...so riley is trying to fuck up the next likely team...

the current deal is lebron, jj and ama're all take 11mil deals in the and dolan will pay them bonuses(which don't count against the cap) to make up the difference and next off season they'd go after melo with the same deal.

starting at 11.5 million with 8% raise over 5 years projection below.

11.5
12.42
13.41
14.48
15.65

right now ama're is trying to get lebron to agree b/c he and jj have an agreement with each other to do that, atl offered joe big money yet he hasn't signed yet and ama're turned down 96mil from phx...

guess we'll all find out next week but thats the way the knicks would get 3 maxes and a 4th next season...

and apparently teams in the east don't like the idea of facing a team with ama're, lebron, melo, and joe johnson...

i'm glad it was revealed that the bad press about the pitch came from pat riley...

anyway now that that's clear we'll see who lebron liked most since apparently both teams made a great pitch to him.

if the knick get all four players. that atleast a 4-peat right there.:yes::yes:

bye bye celtics.:lol::lol::lol:

havent been to a knics game since HS in 2003. im looking forward to going back to the garden for a b-ball game this fall.:lol::lol:
 
breaking news...the league may be raising the cap after july 8th...maybe another 2 to 3 mil...looks like stern is trying to help the knicks out... glad to know we have a life long knicks fan as commish....

guys might not being signing until the 18th or 19th if this happens...
 
breaking news...the league may be raising the cap after july 8th...maybe another 2 to 3 mil...looks like stern is trying to help the knicks out... glad to know we have a life long knicks fan as commish....

guys might not being signing until the 18th or 19th if this happens...

i honestly think you work for the NBA or some shit.:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
breaking news...the league may be raising the cap after july 8th...maybe another 2 to 3 mil...looks like stern is trying to help the knicks out... glad to know we have a life long knicks fan as commish....

guys might not being signing until the 18th or 19th if this happens...

Link? Because if this is true, the players union is going to shit on the owners crying broke in the next CBA. The owners can't claim their pockets are hurting if they are raising the cap again.
 
i honestly think you work for the NBA or some shit.:lol::lol::lol::lol:

nope just reading reports, lotta news breaking...its pretty known stern wants the knicks to win. folks discount that but during the thomas period at the end stern was talking about how the knicks need to be run and how a healthy ny is a healthy nba. thats why i laugh at everyone saying the knicks won't be good ever again...

walsh was picked by stern who told dolan to stay out and he has.

mike d who still had yrs in phx suddenly let out of his deal, and turned down the bulls job to come a horrible knicks tam

mike d said last week he came to ny knowning the roster would be flushed and they'd get free agents, how'd hee know that?

walsh, mike d and stern all know the deal. its been 10 yrs since the knicks have done anything and folks actually believe at their 1st real shot to get good that they won't?

ppl thought boston would suck forever too then suddenly they got kg then ray allen and won a title...

a winning knicks team is good for the nba, they had a winning nets team and no one watched the finals. the nets cannot replace the knicks as one of the nba's classic teams.

i'm a knicks fan but folks are blind if they don't think some sorta fix is in for the knicks to improve big time...
 
Link? Because if this is true, the players union is going to shit on the owners crying broke in the next CBA. The owners can't claim their pockets are hurting if they are raising the cap again.

owners have nothing to do with it. Its stern raising the cap. broke owners can still claim poverty. Stern is just raising the cap.

look up steve sommers (somers) report...
 
nope just reading reports, lotta news breaking...its pretty known stern wants the knicks to win. folks discount that but during the thomas period at the end stern was talking about how the knicks need to be run and how a healthy ny is a healthy nba. thats why i laugh at everyone saying the knicks won't be good ever again...

walsh was picked by stern who told dolan to stay out and he has.

mike d who still had yrs in phx suddenly let out of his deal, and turned down the bulls job to come a horrible knicks tam

mike d said last week he came to ny knowning the roster would be flushed and they'd get free agents, how'd hee know that?

walsh, mike d and stern all know the deal. its been 10 yrs since the knicks have done anything and folks actually believe at their 1st real shot to get good that they won't?

ppl thought boston would suck forever too then suddenly they got kg then ray allen and won a title...

a winning knicks team is good for the nba, they had a winning nets team and no one watched the finals. the nets cannot replace the knicks as one of the nba's classic teams.

i'm a knicks fan but folks are blind if they don't think some sorta fix is in for the knicks to improve big time...

yeah i know what you mean. NY is the biggest media market in the nba and in the country. the nba can make alot of money off the knicks. ppl also forgetting that seats in the garden cost more than other nba cities. this also holds true for the yankees and the other ny teams. ny teams generates more money than any other teams in the country regardless of their league. stern is a knicks fan and wants them to do good for the NBA pockets mostly. this is business and ninjas should see that.

if things fall the way they do nike, the nba, nyc and business in the midtown area area of manhattan is going to make sooo much fucking money you wont believe. i even heard theres something in lebron contract saying if he comes to nyc he gets an raise.


i actually think the knick might over take the yankees as "new york's team" IF this do go down and they win a chip. and this is coming from a diehard yankee fan til the grave:lol:.
 
yeah i know what you mean. NY is the biggest media market in the nba and in the country. the nba can make alot of money off the knicks. ppl also forgetting that seats in the garden cost more than other nba cities. this also holds true for the yankees and the other ny teams. ny teams generates more money than any other teams in the country regardless of their league. stern is a knicks fan and wants them to do good for the NBA pockets mostly. this is business and ninjas should see that.

if things fall the way they do nike, the nba, nyc and business in the midtown area area of manhattan is going to make sooo much fucking money you wont believe. i even heard theres something in lebron contract saying if he comes to nyc he gets an raise.


i actually think the knick might over take the yankees as "new york's team" IF this do go down and they win a chip. and this is coming from a diehard yankee fan til the grave:lol:.

exactly there's so much money out there...a winning knicks team breaks all the banks...the nba gets money

can u imagine the tv ads rate for a winning knicks team vs the lakers in games? or against boston or the bulls?

the league wants a winner in ny and it seems stern is doing what he can to make it happen... all falls on Lebron now...
 
exactly there's so much money out there...a winning knicks team breaks all the banks...the nba gets money

can u imagine the tv ads rate for a winning knicks team vs the lakers in games? or against boston or the bulls?

the league wants a winner in ny and it seems stern is doing what he can to make it happen... all falls on Lebron now...

Money is 1 of his motivations to leave and I know he want to get a ring......
 
You guys can make fun of agentcreed all you want, but everything he's spoken o the third page is fact.

The Knicks aren't an all time great franchise like the Lakers or Celtics, but like creed said here, and I've said plenty times, 8 million new yorkers in the city, 30 million or more in the tri state area, countless millions worldwide.

I mean, Allan fuckin Houston was a top 10 jersey in the NBA. Dude was not even a top 10 player.

You know the Lakers only passed the Knicks in net worth only last summer? And that's coming off their 15th championship!

The Knicks, despite being absolutely terrible turned a profit at the end of last season to the tune of 20 million!

And this is with damn near everyone in NY swearing off the team. Imagine if the Knicks were relevant!

It's not just good for NY, but for the league too! Look what LA's titles did in 2000-2002. It helped pick up the NBA after MJ's retirement and a lockout season. Look what Boston's return to dominance did for the league. Look at this past game 7.

The Knicks don't have to be favorites, but just be contenders.

I believe what Creed said about stern telling Dolan to be hands off. I remember reading an article years ago where stern asked Dolan if there was anything he could do to help the Knicks.
 
You guys can make fun of agentcreed all you want, but everything he's spoken o the third page is fact.

The Knicks aren't an all time great franchise like the Lakers or Celtics, but like creed said here, and I've said plenty times, 8 million new yorkers in the city, 30 million or more in the tri state area, countless millions worldwide.

I mean, Allan fuckin Houston was a top 10 jersey in the NBA. Dude was not even a top 10 player.

You know the Lakers only passed the Knicks in net worth only last summer? And that's coming off their 15th championship!

The Knicks, despite being absolutely terrible turned a profit at the end of last season to the tune of 20 million!

And this is with damn near everyone in NY swearing off the team. Imagine if the Knicks were relevant!

It's not just good for NY, but for the league too! Look what LA's titles did in 2000-2002. It helped pick up the NBA after MJ's retirement and a lockout season. Look what Boston's return to dominance did for the league. Look at this past game 7.

The Knicks don't have to be favorites, but just be contenders.

I believe what Creed said about stern telling Dolan to be hands off. I remember reading an article years ago where stern asked Dolan if there was anything he could do to help the Knicks.

C/S the haters don't get it....
 
I agree with a lot of things Creed said..

But.. George will always make sure The Yankees run New York,
 
A lot of the knicks haters have gone silent. Agent creed spreading knowledge.
I dont really trust that dude Stephen A but heres a decent read...http://stephena.com/?p=953 it really all depends on Lebron.
Why else would joe not sign that monster deal??
 
A lot of the knicks haters have gone silent. Agent creed spreading knowledge.
I dont really trust that dude Stephen A but heres a decent read...http://stephena.com/?p=953 it really all depends on Lebron.
Why else would joe not sign that monster deal??

we ain't gone silent we just went to sleep and as I said God is the biggest Knick hater.

The Knicks only have theirselves to blame for the position they are in.

They are the ones who drafted horrible. traded their picks away to other teams.

This is the team that instead of developing they traded away.

Ariza for Steve Francis?:lol::lol:

Passed over Rondo for Balkman? What because they already had Stephon Marbury? Oh do I need to point out what PHX did with the picks they got from that deal?


Passed over Brook Lopez for who?? Dan Galleo. As the GM's did their polls in the beginning of the year. Rose would have still went number one but Lopez would have been number 2.

Then this season they passed over Brandon Jennings for who??? Jordan Hill.

Jennings was able to score 50 plus under Scott Skiles imagine what he could have done under Mike D.

The Knicks didn't set their self up to not get Lebron.

The Knicks don't him it's a wrap.

This bad luck is the cause of horrible drafting, trading picks and etc etc.

I mean look at this. :lol::lol:

Was this the Knicks pitch to James? We don't have enough to be dominate or contenders but you will still make money.

As someone pointed out this isn't 96 anymore. We are in the age of twitter youtube and etc etc. A muthafucka can get famous on youtube singing "chocolate rain"

Want proof. Watch Kevin Durrant. Watch how he will rise. :lol::lol:

Jordan was able to become an ICON in Chi town. So by that logic Lebron should go to the bulls. They are better than any team right now and will be able to have him to compete for a ring day one.

As I said when Lebron tells the Knicks no they only have themselves and that horrible power point presentation to blame.

This is a guy who fell asleep during a civil suit against himself. You think he stayed woke for a three hour power point presentation? :lol::lol:
 
Agentcreed spitting facts, the fix is in and aside from the knicks offering Lebron a max deal, I suspect stern will dip in the league coffers and tact on an extra 20 to 30 mill in pay for Lebron watch
 
Agentcreed spitting facts, the fix is in and aside from the knicks offering Lebron a max deal, I suspect stern will dip in the league coffers and tact on an extra 20 to 30 mill in pay for Lebron watch

so when monday comes and dude either stays in cleveland or goes to chi town what ya going to say???

:lol::lol:
 
so when monday comes and dude either stays in cleveland or goes to chi town what ya going to say???

:lol::lol:

Personally I don't think he's coming to NY however, david stern with his strong jew hand just might convince LB otherwise, its not that far of a stretch
 
The Knicks have never been threatened the way they are now by the Nets. Julius Erving led the 1976 Nets to a championship, but that was on Long Island, in the ABA. The Jason Kidd Nets who reached the Finals were little more than fleeting nuisance.

This is different.

This is war -- a sudden Cold War between a charismatic billionaire Russian owner named Mikhail Prokhorov, who vows to make beautiful music with dynamic hip hop mogul Jay-Z, and James Dolan, whose worst nightmare is no longer Isiah Thomas, but the growing possibility that LeBron James will be the third face on that towering, swaggerlicious "blueprint for greatness" billboard taunting the Garden and the Knicks on 34th and Eighth.
Global vision versus Cablevision.


The gloves are off.

The feud is on.

Russian woo-lette versus the Knicks' desperate rush to lock up Amar'e Stoudamire so this historic, franchise-changing game of musical free agents does not leave Dolan and team president Donnie Walsh standing without a chair to sit in.

If Dolan was apoplectic enough to telephone Jay-Z and the league to complain about the billboard, imagine his reaction would be to this Marv Albert call at the Garden: "Brook Lopez throws it back to LeBron . . . LeBron from the corner for the win . . . Yes!" On YES, no less. That would make Dolan as cheery as George Steinbrenner whenever he lost the Mayor's Trophy game to the Mets.

So now the Knicks privately have accused the Nets of a behind-the-scenes smear campaign that reluctantly has forced them to veer off the high road and get down and dirty over the matter of which side truly gave the better presentation to King James on Thursday in Cleveland.

Up next: Dolan fires "Russian spies" in Knicks office. Prokhorov bangs shoe at U.N.

You see, at stake, for the first time, is only the basketball soul of this great city -- where the City Game has belonged to the Knicks since 1946.

This is the basketball version of the NFL finding itself under siege from the AFL, except in this instance, there will be no Knicks-Nets merger.

It's no wonder the Knicks are feeling the heat.

The new kids on the block -- go-getters Prokhorov, Jay-Z and head coach Avery Johnson -- are making the Knicks sweat bullets. Both before and after each team's pitch.

"In this situation," Johnson said yesterday, "it's either home run or strikeout. One team's gonna hit a home run. Everybody else is gonna strike out."

There are varying degrees of LeBron-or-bust. If he decides to join the Bulls, or stays home in Cleveland, the Knicks will have struck out, no matter what else they manage to cobble together. But if The King brings his magic and his majesty to the Nets? There won't be a Knicks executive -- or fan -- who won't feel like Bill Buckner.

Johnson is optimistic of his team's chances of landing James.

"1 to 10? After what I saw, I would hope it's an . . . 8," Johnson said. "I would hope so. But who knows?"

James with the Nets would make the Knicks more irrelevant than ever, and it doesn't matter if he's playing in Newark (is that Spike Lee at the Prudential Center, the World's Most Famous Arena?), or Brooklyn, or Moscow.

As the shot clock winds down, it is up to Walsh, more than anyone, to avoid the unthinkable.

Dolan brought him here for this moment. Walsh brought coach Mike D'Antoni here for this moment. The Nets don't really have a team president, with Rod Thorn leaving, and it doesn't seem to matter. Walsh has had two years to figure this out. We find out now how good he is.

He needs to build a team, and fast. If he builds it, if he can somehow trade for James buddy Chris Paul, maybe LeBron will come after all, because nothing is etched in stone here.

The Knicks read that James might have been taken aback by Walsh, because of his recent neck surgery, showing up in a wheelchair, and finger the Nets as subversives. That the Knicks' billion-dollar pitch to James didn't exactly have him leaping to his feet panting, "Where do I sign?"

The Knicks' brass-knuckled response? Ha! The Nets' presentation wasn't all that, and who says they have a better shot than we do?


Cold War. About to get white hot.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knic...d59C1i0jN?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=#ixzz0scarhpgF



I ain't even saying we getting James I have not once said that.

My point. The Knicks are nervous. Ya niggaz think they have this shit lock?:lol::lol:

Plus all those jokes about the Knicks not worrying about the Nets bullllllllllllllshit.

Brooklyn is two years away. The Knicks can't have the Nets coming into that arena a better team than them.

:lol:
 
few things about the whole "the knicks bored him, he gave no feedback"

What has received the most attention is the Knicks' presentation about James' greater chances of becoming a billionaire as a Knick. But a team source told Berman that Mike D'Antoni and James talked a great deal about basketball philosophy and James frequently laughed while watching video testimonials of celebrities and fans of the Knicks.

Doesn't sound bored to me or anything negative to me.

And

"Some in the organization feel the Nets are behind the report," Marc Berman of the New York Post wrote. "In fact, there are sources who said the Nets may be paranoid that their global pitch did not go as well as they think it did."

sounds like the nets might have bombed and are trying to do damage to the knicks out of spite..

the nets got a bush league owner spreading rumors and trying to show off and disrespect the knicks, only cornballs find they funny, the rest of the league won't...good luck convincing other gm's and FA to go there when it all comes out...the new owner lowballed his offer to thorn, signed a coach thorn didn't want and is doing things that thorn ethically disagrees with.

folks are talking about how bush league the nets are now...

now it needs to come out whether it was riley or the nets making fun of walsh after his neck surgery....

THAT'S why no one will ever give a fuck about the nets...they try to hard...like bitches.

I ain't even saying we getting James I have not once said that.

My point. The Knicks are nervous. Ya niggaz think they have this shit lock?:lol::lol:

Plus all those jokes about the Knicks not worrying about the Nets bullllllllllllllshit.

Brooklyn is two years away. The Knicks can't have the Nets coming into that arena a better team than them.

:lol:
 
I agree with a lot of things Creed said..

But.. George will always make sure The Yankees run New York,

bruh im a die hard yankee fan and this isnt true. if lebron comes with superstars and win a chip. they will run the town. hell if the knick win a chip im willing to turn into a hooligan for one day and destroy stores and properties:smh::smh:.
 
few things about the whole "the knicks bored him, he gave no feedback"



Doesn't sound bored to me or anything negative to me.

And



sounds like the nets might have bombed and are trying to do damage to the knicks out of spite..

the nets got a bush league owner spreading rumors and trying to show off and disrespect the knicks, only cornballs find they funny, the rest of the league won't...good luck convincing other gm's and FA to go there when it all comes out...the new owner lowballed his offer to thorn, signed a coach thorn didn't want and is doing things that thorn ethically disagrees with.

folks are talking about how bush league the nets are now...

now it needs to come out whether it was riley or the nets making fun of walsh after his neck surgery....

THAT'S why no one will ever give a fuck about the nets...they try to hard...like bitches.


The Nets worried nawwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

You ask me who looks more worried. The Knicks are trying to sign Amare in hopes to convince James.

The Nets are waiting for Lebron's answer :lol::lol:

now who looks worried.

and here we go with the Thorn thing. If you don't know about it don't speak on it.

One Thorn was all for Kiki firing. Notice once Kiki was fired his pet Yi was traded.

Kiki divided the Nets Locker room with him favoring Yi. It was so bad Brook Lopez stormed out during one practice because he and other players didn't understand why the hell they were practicing set up plays and their offense ran through Yi.

Lopez’s frustration has been obvious in games and in the locker room lately and it was apparent at practice today.

Lopez stormed off the court and was followed by assistant coach Roy Rogers, several players and a Nets’ security person. Lopez never returned.

Kiki had to go


Also The Russian was in russia and had no say what so ever in the coach hiring. Thorn already admitted Avery wasn't his first choice but was the best available choice.

(We all knew who he wanted):lol:

Thorn set that up not the Russian.

Also the Russian didn't low ball Thorn. Thorn said he was done and if he was upset. Why is he still working with the Nets though his contract is up and is helping the Nets find his replacement.

:lol::lol:

This ain't the Knicks over here. We don't have Larry Brown, Isaiah Thomas and other bullshit happening in our front office. :lol::lol:

also for real Lebron wasn't impressed with the Nets.

According to the Newark Star-Ledger’s Dave D’Alessandro, LeBron “listened attentively to Prokhorov and Razumov as they explained how they will expand his profile on a global scale. He heard Thorn and Johnson share their plan for building a championship-caliber roster with a long shelf life. He was given an evocative demonstration by Yormark about how he could become not only King of Brooklyn, but of all of New York.”

Jay-Z stayed behind for a few minutes to reinforce the Nets’ main points and to gauge his friend’s reaction to the pitch. And according to one Nets official, The King was blown away.

But James also gave the team a strong warning that it should prepare to have enough cap space to buy two max contracts (for say, Chris Bosh) should he decide to sign with the Nets, who are a few million shy of the value of two max contracts.

One team official, who requested anonymity because he isn’t authorized to speak for the Nets, put it bluntly:

“All the chips have been pushed to the middle of the table,” he said. “Let’s see how it plays out. If (James or Bosh) do not come, I don’t see us getting desperate.”

This, another team official said, is the way they want to play it at the highest level of the organization — the Mikhail Prokhorov mandate, as one put it.

Essentially, the Nets don’t believe they have to make rash judgments or spend their cap space on players they don’t really want — especially B-list players — before The King has spoken.

Moreover, they were feeling very good about the negative reports that were circulating about the Knicks’ pitch to James, which ostensibly eliminates one of their four primary competitors for his services.

James, however, isn’t planning on disclosing any verdict before Monday, contrary to original reports. You cannot blame him: He only met with the Nets and Knicks on Thursday, and with the Heat and Clippers Friday. He won’t even meet with the Chicago Bulls or with new Cavaliers coach Byron Scott until today.

But the Nets’ all-or-nothing strategy is risky, of course. By the time James announces his intentions, every A-lister could be accounted for.

On the other hand, one prominent agent who has a client that has mutual interest with the Nets doesn’t see any doors closing this weekend: “Yes, a lot of guys are going to wait to see what happens with Jersey,” he said, “because of what they have to offer.”

Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni said his team tried its best to “put him in a New York State of Mind.”

The Nets, meanwhile, actually brought along the man who made that state of mind famous again.

Jay-Z stuck around for an extended meeting with James after owner Mikhail Prokhorov, GM Rod Thorn and the rest of the Nets contingent left the Cleveland offices of his business partner.

It might mean nothing. It might mean everything. Predicting what will happen with James over the holiday weekend is impossible, especially since James himself might not know what he’s going to do.

The Nets are probably still underdogs to two teams – Chicago and Cleveland — that have yet to make their presentations. The Bulls have the best young core of players. The Cavs have the home-team advantage and can still pay $30 million more than any other team.

But this is certain: Nobody should be looking down their noses at the Nets any more, least of all the team that has spent much of the past four decades doing exactly that. If the Nets have to settle for a consolation prize this month, they’ll do so with this somewhat comforting knowledge:

They sure looked like the better option from the New York market.

“Given a choice between the Nets and the Knicks, it would be the Nets – hands down,” said Sonny Vaccaro, the sneaker guru who seven years ago this month was the first man to recruit James.

Vaccaro was competing back then to make James his pitchman at Adidas. He wooed the then-talented teenager in every way possible, leaving a “King James” jersey in his Teaneck hotel room before he arrived at the annual ABCD Camp and paying $200,000 on a Malibu weekend for him and his friends.

He knows what it’s like to have the best recruiting pitch and still not get your man. Vaccaro had the closest ties to James, but lost out when rival Nike made a nine-digit offer his company would not match.

So as impressive as the Nets presentation might have been Thursday, Vaccaro still thinks LeBron will land in Chicago. But if it were a two-team race between the local franchises, the answer would be easy.

“All things being equal, New Jersey would be the best place for him — with Jay-Z, with the new owner — and a better place than the Knicks,” Vaccaro said. “How could he not be intrigued by (Prokhorov)? And how could you not want to have your mentor, Jay-Z, as part of your life?”

Give the Nets credit. The overlooked stepchildren for years are behaving like the established powers now. They are the ones who commissioned the massive billboard in Manhattan, with Jay-Z and Prokhorov staring down at Madison Square Garden.

all the experts are saying the Nets are not worried because they have an inside track.

Jay-Z. It is believed that after 12:30 meeting with the Bulls that if James made his decision he will alert Jay first so he and the Nets can go ahead and move along not leaving them in the dust.

Many might feel that is tampering.

That is why many teams are waiting on Jersey. Once New Jersey makes a move they will know how Lebron decided.

:lol::lol::lol:

Never care much for Jigga as a rapper but dude is a good inside piece.
 
its like this fam.

KG told him don't be loyal to these hoes. thats why it took me 15 years to get a ring.


u want to make hella money? go to NY

u want to be Loyal? go to cleveland

u want to win championships? go to chicago.


there u have it.
 
By Chris Sheridan

There are a lot of opinions out there today about who is supposedly in and out of the LeBron James sweepstakes.

Some have already written the Knicks off, and some have weighed in with actual facts about what took place in their meeting Thursday with James.

I am here to tell you that I believe the Knicks are still very much in the race, and I've gathered a little intel of my own regarding what went on behind those closed doors off 9th Street in Cleveland.

Aside from their financial pitch to James that he could most easily become a billionaire by playing in New York, the Knicks made a basketball pitch to James -- backed up with video highlights -- demonstrating how their complementary players are better suited than anyone else's to supplement what James and the big man of his choice (Chris Bosh, Amare Stoudemire, David Lee, Carlos Boozer) would bring to the table.

Question: How many shooters do the Bulls have? Answer: None. Derrick Rose is a career 24 pct. 3-point shooter, and Luol Deng is at 31 percent -- the same as Wilson Chandler, who would get a lot more open looks than he did in the past in a LeBron-centric offense. The Knicks also have Danilo Gallinari, who is shooting 39 percent from 3-point range for his career. (Toney Douglas also hit 3s at a 39 percent clip last season.)

Variation of the same question: How many shooters do the Heat have? Mario Chalmers (who lost his starting job to Carlos Arroyo last season) hits 'em at a 38 percent clip. Michael Beasley is at 33 pct in his two seasons. Joel Anthony has never taken one, which merits mentioning because he, along with Beasley and Chalmers, are the only players Miami has.

Question: What possible hidden gem does Chicago have on its roster? Only Taj Gibson and James Johnson qualify, and one or both might have to be moved in a sign-and-trade in order for the Bulls to get a second max player. Compare those two to Bill Walker, who was one of the most highly recruited and touted players in the 2006-07 high school senior class that included O.J. Mayo and Rose. Walker's career was sidetracked by a serious knee injury, but he has dropped 27 pounds (from 254 to 227) since the Knicks acquired him from Boston in the Nate Robinson trade, and his knee is fully recovered.

Question: What kind of salary cap/trade deadline flexibility will the Bulls/Heat have going into the 2010-11 season? Answer: Virtually none. Chicago has to lock up Joakim Noah next summer and Rose the year after that, and Miami, if it gets two max players, can only gain flexibility for the summer of 2011 by declining the fourth-year option on Beasley's contract prior to the start of the '10-11 season. The Knicks, on the other hand, have Eddy Curry's expiring $11.3 contract to use in one of two ways: Trade it at the deadline for a player or players that would make the Knicks stronger championship contenders next spring; or let it come off the cap at the end of next season, putting the Knicks some $10-12 million under the cap for the Summer of Carmelo.

I have it on good authority that the Knicks pounded those points with James, arguing that their complementary players are better than they've been given credit for, and that adding a third max player in 2011 is an achievable possibility.


Those are persuasive arguments, and the Cavaliers (capped out next summer because of Antawn Jamison trade) and Bulls can't make similar cases when they meet with James today in Cleveland.

And what about the Nets?

I don't count them out, but I also think their two-year temporary relocation to Newark while they await the construction of the new arena in Brooklyn is a deal-breaker.

Brian Windhorst of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer, who has covered James since he was in high school, and whose mother taught math to James at St. Vincent-St.Mary high school in Akron, thought it would be a good idea a couple of Januarys ago to take an Amtrak train from Newark to Washington, D.C. while the Cavs were on an East Coast road swing.

I'll let Windhorst take it from here:

"I would describe it as an hour of staying away from the wackos and drug-addled degenerates while keeping a serious close eye on the various unsavory individuals who were an obvious threat to property and body. I went out and on the platform, where it was 15 degrees, because there was nobody else out there," Windhorst said. "I don't want to offend the Newark Chamber of Commerce, but I would never plan on doing that ever again. And I'm a big Amtrak fan."

One more question: How many media people have spoken to LeBron James about any of this? (I have tried, but he is not returning my messages.) I'd bet a dollar the answer is none.

And until The King speaks, I'm not counting anybody out.

folks acting like the knicks have ZERO talent..we got shooters, we getting the big man and it sounds like we're trying to get tony parker too...

tony parker vs devin harris? tony parker.

but we'll see...
 
its like this fam.

KG told him don't be loyal to these hoes. thats why it took me 15 years to get a ring.


u want to make hella money? go to NY

u want to be Loyal? go to cleveland

u want to win championships? go to chicago.


there u have it.


the whole go to new york to make hella money is bullshit though.

How much money and endorsements has he made in Cleveland.?

How much did MJ make in Chi town?

Dude would be straight if he goes to Chicago. Hell that's where I think he is going if he does leave.

As a Nets fan it wouldn't piss me off or feel like we wasted our time or future.

Can Knick fan's say the same thing??? :lol::lol::lol:

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

it's a two man race. Chi Town and The Land. (yea I went back to bone thugs)

Bosh is basically sitting back and waiting for him to choose.

The Knicks on the other hand are already planning on plan b. Melo. :lol:

As the reports said they traded away all their bargaining and attractive pieces.
 
folks acting like the knicks have ZERO talent..we got shooters, we getting the big man and it sounds like we're trying to get tony parker too...

tony parker vs devin harris? tony parker.

but we'll see...

oh we quoting Brian Windhorst now?? Well what did he tweet a day ago?

Here's what I hear from yesterday: LeBron interested in Nets pitch but not so much NY. NY trying at moment to secure Amare' to help cause 9:29 AM Jul 2nd via TweetDeck Retweeted by 100+ people

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


:lol::lol::lol:

This is the Cavs insider right? The same guy who broke all the Cavs trades before it happen. The guy who told people the Amare trade wasn't happening yet everyone on ESPN said it was.

HHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

The same guy who last summer broke the news before anyone the Cavs were trying to get Shaq and going to sign Parker.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

:lol::lol::lol:
 
oh we quoting Brian Windhorst now?? Well what did he tweet a day ago?



hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


:lol::lol::lol:

This is the Cavs insider right? The same guy who broke all the Cavs trades before it happen. The guy who told people the Amare trade wasn't happening yet everyone on ESPN said it was.

HHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

The same guy who last summer broke the news before anyone the Cavs were trying to get Shaq and going to sign Parker.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

:lol::lol::lol:

same guy who hates the knicks and is known to make up stories as well...
 
same guy who hates the knicks and is known to make up stories as well...

As I said you quoted him first to help your arguement now when I post something that he also said to hurt it he is now an unreliable source.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

KNICK FANS

This shit is hilarious

You just quoted dude to help your arguement and now since I posted him saying Lebron more interested in Nets than the Knicks pitch. He hates them? :lol::lol:

Also check the time he tweeted that what time did the Knicks offer Amare a max contract.

You Knicks fans live on another planet but hell I would too if my team spent that long and that much money to be that bad

plus what story has he made up and proven wrong?

I'll wait for the link.
 
This is a new regime, we dont have isiah thomas or scott layden running the show anymore.
Walsh had a plan and that plan was to clear the decks and make trades to get under the
salary cap. He got rid of nutcases like stephon, nate, jerome james.. all mistakes
that isiah created. Eddy "edy's ice cream" curry will be gone. He got rid of Zach randolphs bloated contract when NOONE thought
it was possible.
Two years later the knicks have money to spend and this gives us hope.. whether its Amare, joe J, wade, james, parker. We just want SOMEbody competent.
We dont NEED lebron, we just want a competitive team and i think we will get it.
 
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