Coast Guard Stopping Super Suck Tankers From Entering The Gulf!
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Government efficacy at its best I see
Unlike the efficiency of the business repairing the well.
BTW check your efficient spelling.
Unlike the efficiency of the business repairing the well.
BTW check your efficient spelling.
efficacy is a word dude
A bunch of tankers in the gulf will certainly lead to acrash of some sort. It would take Paula Abdul and Debbie Allen to coreograph Super Suck tankers to move without running into each other. Tankers need a lot of room toturn.Maybe they would just sit inplace and suck at the spill source.
Either way I wouldn't presume to know more than the Coast Guard dealing with the spill/cleanup down there.
Either way I wouldn't presume to know more than the Coast Guard dealing with the spill/cleanup down there.
A bunch of tankers moving around in the gulf will certainly lead to a crash of some sort. It would take Paula Abdul and Debbie Allen to choreograph Super Suck tankers to move without running into each other. Tankers need a lot of room to turn.Maybe they would just sit in place and suck at the spill source.
Either way I wouldn't presume to know more than the Coast Guard dealing with the spill/cleanup down there.
Either way I wouldn't presume to know more than the Coast Guard dealing with the spill/cleanup down there.
oh no! the tankers* (bullshit barges with vacuums) could suck up 4000 gallons a day!
4.2 million gallons of oil is leaking per day
4000?
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they still should be allowed to go to work if they are safe but they aren't gonna make a dent in anything
4.2 million gallons of oil is leaking per day
4000?
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they still should be allowed to go to work if they are safe but they aren't gonna make a dent in anything
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A Whale</font size><font size="4">
Owners of the ship says it can float across the Gulf "like a lawn mower cutting the grass," ingesting up to 500,000 barrels of oil-contaminated water a day.</font size></center>
uilt in South Korea as a supertanker for transporting oil and iron ore, the six-month-old vessel
was refitted in the wake of the BP oil spill with 12, 16-foot-long intake vents on the sides of its
bow designed to skim oil off surface waters
Daily Press
By Peter Frost
pfrost@dailypress.com
June 25, 2010
NORFOLK - After making a brief stop in Norfolk for refueling, U.S. Coast Guard inspections and an all-out publicity blitz intended to drum up public support, a giant tanker billed as the world's largest oil skimming vessel set sail Friday for the Gulf of Mexico where it hopes to assist in the oil-cleanup effort.
The Taiwanese-owned, Liberian-flagged ship dubbed the "A Whale" stands 10 stories high, stretches 1,115 feet in length and has a nearly 200-foot beam. It displaces more water than an aircraft carrier.
Built in South Korea as a supertanker for transporting oil and iron ore, the six-month-old vessel was refitted in the wake of the BP oil spill with 12, 16-foot-long intake vents on the sides of its bow designed to skim oil off surface waters
The vessel's billionaire owner, Nobu Su, the CEO of Taiwanese shipping company TMT Group, said the ship would float across the Gulf "like a lawn mower cutting the grass," ingesting up to 500,000 barrels of oil-contaminated water a day.
But a number of hurdles stand in his way. TMT officials said the company does not yet have government approval to assist in the cleanup or a contract with BP to perform the work.
That's part of the reason the ship was tied to pier at the Virginia Port Authority's Norfolk International Terminals Friday morning. TMT and its public-relations agency invited scores of media, elected officials and maritime industry executives to an hour-long presentation about how the ship could provide an immediate boost to clean-up efforts in the Gulf.
TMT also paid to fly in Edward Overton, a professor emeritus of environmental sciences at Louisiana State University, to get a look at the massive skimmer.
Overton blasted BP and the federal government for a lack of effort and coordination in their dual oil-spill response and made a plea to the government to allow the A Whale to join the cleanup operation.
"We need this ship. We need this help," Overton said. "That oil is already contaminating our shoreline. We've got to get the ship out there and see if it works. There's only one way to find out: Get the damn thing in the gulf and we'll see."
TMT officials acknowledged that not even they're sure how well the new skimming method will work, noting that it appeared to perform well in limited testing last week.
"This concept has never been tried before," said Bob Grantham, a TMT project officer. "But we think we can do in maybe in a day and a half what these other crews have done in 66 days. We see the A Whale as adding another layer to the recovery effort."
Virginia Transportation Secretary Sean T. Connaughton said the McDonnell administration "still has great interest in offshore oil development in Virginia" and supports the A Whale's effort to assist in the cleanup.
To join the fight, the ship also might require separate waivers from the Coast Guard and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.
The A Whale — pronounced along the lines of "A Team" because there is a "B Whale" coming — is designed to work 20 to 50 miles offshore where smaller skimmers have trouble navigating. The ship would take in oily water and transfer it into specialized storage tanks on the flanks of the vessel. From there, the oil-fouled seawater would be pumped into internal tanks where the oil would separate naturally from the water.
After the separation process, the oil would be transferred to other tankers or shore-based facilities while the remaining water would be pumped back into the gulf.
Because the process wouldn't remove all traces of oil from the seawater, TMT will likely have to gain a special permit from the EPA, said Scott H. Segal of the Washington lobbying firm, Bracewell &Giuliani, which TMT has retained to help negotiate with federal regulators.
"The simple answer is, we don't know what the discharge will look like until we can take A Whale out there and test it," Segal said. TMT will work with regulators to determine an appropriate level of oil that can be contained in the ship's discharge.
TMT also is firm is working with the Coast Guard to gain approval to operate in the gulf, which may require a waiver from a 90-year-old maritime act that restricts foreign-flagged vessels from operating in U.S. waters, said Bob Grantham, a TMT project officer.
Connaughton, the former federal Maritime Administrator, said he doesn't believe the A Whale would require a waiver from the Jones Act, a federal law signed in 1920 that sought to protect U.S. maritime interests.
Coast Guard inspectors toured the ship for about four hours on Thursday to determine the ship's efficacy and whether it was fit to be deployed, said Capt. Matthew Sisson, commanding officer of the Coast Guard's Research and Development arm in New London, Conn.
"We take all offers of alternative technology very seriously," Sisson said. The ship, he said, is "an impressive engineering feat."
He would not offer a timetable for Coast Guard approval of the vessel, but said he will try to "turn around a report … as soon as humanely possible."
Of course, even if the ship gains approval to operate in the gulf, its owners expect the company to be paid for its efforts.
"That's an open question," Segal said. "Obviously, (TMT) is a going concern and its people would need to be compensated for their time and effort."
http://www.kdvr.com/news/nationworld/dp-nws-oil-skimmer-20100625,0,456573.story
A Whale</font size><font size="4">
Owners of the ship says it can float across the Gulf "like a lawn mower cutting the grass," ingesting up to 500,000 barrels of oil-contaminated water a day.</font size></center>
uilt in South Korea as a supertanker for transporting oil and iron ore, the six-month-old vessel
was refitted in the wake of the BP oil spill with 12, 16-foot-long intake vents on the sides of its
bow designed to skim oil off surface waters
Daily Press
By Peter Frost
pfrost@dailypress.com
June 25, 2010
NORFOLK - After making a brief stop in Norfolk for refueling, U.S. Coast Guard inspections and an all-out publicity blitz intended to drum up public support, a giant tanker billed as the world's largest oil skimming vessel set sail Friday for the Gulf of Mexico where it hopes to assist in the oil-cleanup effort.
The Taiwanese-owned, Liberian-flagged ship dubbed the "A Whale" stands 10 stories high, stretches 1,115 feet in length and has a nearly 200-foot beam. It displaces more water than an aircraft carrier.
Built in South Korea as a supertanker for transporting oil and iron ore, the six-month-old vessel was refitted in the wake of the BP oil spill with 12, 16-foot-long intake vents on the sides of its bow designed to skim oil off surface waters
The vessel's billionaire owner, Nobu Su, the CEO of Taiwanese shipping company TMT Group, said the ship would float across the Gulf "like a lawn mower cutting the grass," ingesting up to 500,000 barrels of oil-contaminated water a day.
But a number of hurdles stand in his way. TMT officials said the company does not yet have government approval to assist in the cleanup or a contract with BP to perform the work.
That's part of the reason the ship was tied to pier at the Virginia Port Authority's Norfolk International Terminals Friday morning. TMT and its public-relations agency invited scores of media, elected officials and maritime industry executives to an hour-long presentation about how the ship could provide an immediate boost to clean-up efforts in the Gulf.
TMT also paid to fly in Edward Overton, a professor emeritus of environmental sciences at Louisiana State University, to get a look at the massive skimmer.
Overton blasted BP and the federal government for a lack of effort and coordination in their dual oil-spill response and made a plea to the government to allow the A Whale to join the cleanup operation.
"We need this ship. We need this help," Overton said. "That oil is already contaminating our shoreline. We've got to get the ship out there and see if it works. There's only one way to find out: Get the damn thing in the gulf and we'll see."
TMT officials acknowledged that not even they're sure how well the new skimming method will work, noting that it appeared to perform well in limited testing last week.
"This concept has never been tried before," said Bob Grantham, a TMT project officer. "But we think we can do in maybe in a day and a half what these other crews have done in 66 days. We see the A Whale as adding another layer to the recovery effort."
Virginia Transportation Secretary Sean T. Connaughton said the McDonnell administration "still has great interest in offshore oil development in Virginia" and supports the A Whale's effort to assist in the cleanup.
To join the fight, the ship also might require separate waivers from the Coast Guard and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.
The A Whale — pronounced along the lines of "A Team" because there is a "B Whale" coming — is designed to work 20 to 50 miles offshore where smaller skimmers have trouble navigating. The ship would take in oily water and transfer it into specialized storage tanks on the flanks of the vessel. From there, the oil-fouled seawater would be pumped into internal tanks where the oil would separate naturally from the water.
After the separation process, the oil would be transferred to other tankers or shore-based facilities while the remaining water would be pumped back into the gulf.
Because the process wouldn't remove all traces of oil from the seawater, TMT will likely have to gain a special permit from the EPA, said Scott H. Segal of the Washington lobbying firm, Bracewell &Giuliani, which TMT has retained to help negotiate with federal regulators.
"The simple answer is, we don't know what the discharge will look like until we can take A Whale out there and test it," Segal said. TMT will work with regulators to determine an appropriate level of oil that can be contained in the ship's discharge.
TMT also is firm is working with the Coast Guard to gain approval to operate in the gulf, which may require a waiver from a 90-year-old maritime act that restricts foreign-flagged vessels from operating in U.S. waters, said Bob Grantham, a TMT project officer.
Connaughton, the former federal Maritime Administrator, said he doesn't believe the A Whale would require a waiver from the Jones Act, a federal law signed in 1920 that sought to protect U.S. maritime interests.
Coast Guard inspectors toured the ship for about four hours on Thursday to determine the ship's efficacy and whether it was fit to be deployed, said Capt. Matthew Sisson, commanding officer of the Coast Guard's Research and Development arm in New London, Conn.
"We take all offers of alternative technology very seriously," Sisson said. The ship, he said, is "an impressive engineering feat."
He would not offer a timetable for Coast Guard approval of the vessel, but said he will try to "turn around a report … as soon as humanely possible."
Of course, even if the ship gains approval to operate in the gulf, its owners expect the company to be paid for its efforts.
"That's an open question," Segal said. "Obviously, (TMT) is a going concern and its people would need to be compensated for their time and effort."
http://www.kdvr.com/news/nationworld/dp-nws-oil-skimmer-20100625,0,456573.story
Once again the government is too intrusive, yet the government is not their when you want them. The selfishness of the right!
Once again the government is too intrusive, yet the government is not their when you want them. The selfishness of the right!
I aint right or left but I'll support competence. All the govt needs to do is 'get out of the way' & allow some of these ideas to be implemeted (all from the private sector I might add). The Coast guard is obviously hindering relief! This tanker seems like a solution to capture a lot of oil before it reached shore, What is the problem?
Thought, lets be real. You got 30,000 citizens & 17,000 National Guard on the beaches, with shovels.
But at the same time, the govt (Coast Guard) won't allow a Supertanker capture oil before it gets to shore, this is ridiculous. Stop blaming Reagan & get the damn tankers to the spill site, damn!
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I aint right or left but I'll support competence. All the govt needs to do is 'get out of the way' & allow some of these ideas to be implemeted (all from the private sector I might add). The Coast guard is obviously hindering relief! This tanker seems like a solution to capture a lot of oil before it reached shore, What is the problem?
Thought, lets be real. You got 30,000 citizens & 17,000 National Guard on the beaches, with shovels.
Well why then are you politicizing it? Where is your thread about the incompetences of the Free Market? Why isn't the free market plugging the well quickly?
Expect you to gloss over this and not give a direct answer.
update
[NEW VIDEO] new 'SUPER Skimmer' oil ship brought to the Gulf Coast BP Oil Spill
ABC Nightly News - July 1st, 2010
[NEW VIDEO] new 'SUPER Skimmer' oil ship brought to the Gulf Coast BP Oil Spill
SUPER SKIMMER owned by a Billionaire from Taiwan is brought to aid in the oil spill.... must SEE!
ABC Nightly News - July 1st, 2010
That Ship aint no joke yo. Look like you could fit a small city in that bitch. Like on some Captian Nemo shit.
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Tests on Gulf oil "superskimmer"
inconclusive: TMT</font size></center>
Reuters
By Matthew Bigg
NEW ORLEANS
Mon Jul 5, 2010
NEW ORLEANS (Reuters) - Tests on a supertanker adapted to skim large quantities of oily water from the surface of the Gulf of Mexico are inconclusive because of high seas, ship owner TMT Shipping Offshore said on Monday.
Tests on the so-called "super skimmer" conducted just north of the blown out BP Plc well were supposed to be completed on Monday but have been extended because of the weather, said spokesman Bob Grantham.
"After an initial 48-hour testing period results remain inconclusive in light of the rough sea state we are encountering," Grantham said.
"Therefore, working in close coordination with the U.S. Coast Guard, we will be undertaking an additional testing period to make operational and technological adjustments aimed at improving skimming effectiveness given the actual conditions we are encountering in the Gulf," he said.
He said smaller skimming vessels were also struggling to operate in the conditions caused by the aftermath of Hurricane Alex, which passed through the Gulf last week.
The 1,100-foot (335 meter)-long ore and oil carrier named "A Whale" is seen as a potential savior of efforts to clean the oil pollution because it can collect 500,000 barrels (21 million gallons) per day of contaminated water.
It operates by allowing oily surface water into the ship through a series of 12 horizontal slits on the port and starboard sides of the ship near the bow. The liquid is then decanted through a series of tanks to separate oil and water.
Though the total amount of oil and water mix in the Gulf remains unknown, the ship's capacity would vastly increase what is currently being skimmed by smaller vessels.
The "A Whale" underwent an initial test off the coast of Portugal where it was fitted out for its new role and passed with flying colors, crew members said.
As a result, the company expected little difficulty in proving that it could work in the Gulf.
If it passes the test, the Taiwanese parent company TMT hopes to secure a contract with BP to skim oil and it is also preparing two additional ships for the task.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6642HH20100705?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews
Tests on Gulf oil "superskimmer"
inconclusive: TMT</font size></center>
Reuters
By Matthew Bigg
NEW ORLEANS
Mon Jul 5, 2010
NEW ORLEANS (Reuters) - Tests on a supertanker adapted to skim large quantities of oily water from the surface of the Gulf of Mexico are inconclusive because of high seas, ship owner TMT Shipping Offshore said on Monday.
Tests on the so-called "super skimmer" conducted just north of the blown out BP Plc well were supposed to be completed on Monday but have been extended because of the weather, said spokesman Bob Grantham.
"After an initial 48-hour testing period results remain inconclusive in light of the rough sea state we are encountering," Grantham said.
"Therefore, working in close coordination with the U.S. Coast Guard, we will be undertaking an additional testing period to make operational and technological adjustments aimed at improving skimming effectiveness given the actual conditions we are encountering in the Gulf," he said.
He said smaller skimming vessels were also struggling to operate in the conditions caused by the aftermath of Hurricane Alex, which passed through the Gulf last week.
The 1,100-foot (335 meter)-long ore and oil carrier named "A Whale" is seen as a potential savior of efforts to clean the oil pollution because it can collect 500,000 barrels (21 million gallons) per day of contaminated water.
It operates by allowing oily surface water into the ship through a series of 12 horizontal slits on the port and starboard sides of the ship near the bow. The liquid is then decanted through a series of tanks to separate oil and water.
Though the total amount of oil and water mix in the Gulf remains unknown, the ship's capacity would vastly increase what is currently being skimmed by smaller vessels.
The "A Whale" underwent an initial test off the coast of Portugal where it was fitted out for its new role and passed with flying colors, crew members said.
As a result, the company expected little difficulty in proving that it could work in the Gulf.
If it passes the test, the Taiwanese parent company TMT hopes to secure a contract with BP to skim oil and it is also preparing two additional ships for the task.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6642HH20100705?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews
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