*********Official Lakers vs. Celtics NBA Finals Thread********

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:lol: can't knock that lakers for winning the title as it was well deserved but the stans act like they are a little disappointed in their idol's performance. Take your man a few posts up for example.

Did HNIC make a post that any wobe threads would result in an automatic ban? The board was more cluttered after they won the WCF.

Enjoy the W. The team earned it.

From what I read its "The Lakers won but Kobe played like shit." A bunch of cranrabs.

Boston defense did what it was designed to do. Make Kobe look bad on the offensive end but theres two sides. Kobe was the most consistent player in the series and deserved the Finals MVP.
 
From what I read its "The Lakers won but Kobe played like shit." A bunch of cranrabs.

Boston defense did what it was designed to do. Make Kobe look bad on the offensive end but theres two sides. Kobe was the most consistent player in the series and deserved the Finals MVP.

Man haters gone hate let them do what they do
 
kobe played like shit tonight. it wasnt the celtics defense on him that caused him to miss al of those shots. some of them yes but not all of them. he had an extremely off shooting night. i thought gasol shouldve gotten the finals mvp but like i was reminded it wasnt based soley on tonights game.

how about no celtics shaking hands or not even doing the press conference. in 08 kobe went up and did his press conference after the lakers got that ass whooped.

people are not going to like kobe and they'll find any reason to hate lol
 
sad, sad day for Knicks fans........:smh::smh::smh:

what the hell, the Rapist and the Violet crew deserved it............I guess thats better than a Boston team winning any sort of championship.....still though, it was a no win situation:smh::(
 
Lakers in 7 ;)

THEY DID IT :dance::dance:
Let's the party begin !
As I told u for the Lakers way before (page n°3), but damn ...
I also wrote Boston in 6 versus Orlando and France out in the first round of the World Cup . Next time , I'll bet on it as I should!
 
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From what I read its "The Lakers won but Kobe played like shit." A bunch of cranrabs.

Which is exactly what happened. I wonder how many of you will come out and say the 'cast was overrated' and 'had no talent' now :rolleyes:

Boston defense did what it was designed to do. Make Kobe look bad on the offensive end but theres two sides. Kobe was the most consistent player in the series and deserved the Finals MVP.

So was it the defense that made him look bad or his lack of basketball IQ? Answer me this, did Boston play the same or similar defense on LeBron James and Dwyane Wade?

Gasol was definitely the most consistent player for the team throughout the season and playoffs. He made clutch baskets to win in the closeout games of both of their tough series. Not to mention he led LA in every single advanced statistic.

can somebody verify that he really just said that? :confused:

:lol: you can't take the stans serious and can't tell him he's wrong because he truly believes that is what happened. It's like trying to tell a 5 year old that there is no Santa Clause.
 
Which is exactly what happened. I wonder how many of you will come out and say the 'cast was overrated' and 'had no talent' now :rolleyes:



So was it the defense that made him look bad or his lack of basketball IQ? Answer me this, did Boston play the same or similar defense on LeBron James and Dwyane Wade?

Gasol was definitely the most consistent player for the team throughout the season and playoffs. He made clutch baskets to win in the closeout games of both of their tough series. Not to mention he led LA in every single advanced statistic.



:lol: you can't take the stans serious and can't tell him he's wrong because he truly believes that is what happened. It's like trying to tell a 5 year old that there is no Santa Clause.

All of your laugh emoticons can't change the fact that Kobe now has one for every finger and back to back NBA Final MVP's.

I'll bet my bottom dollar history won't remember Kobe Bryant the way you will.

You're nothing more than a Kobe hater who can only see the negatives and none of the positives. That's why your opinion can't be taken seriously. You can nit-pick any player to death, and focus only on the areas they didn't excel in to bolster your opinion...

...but it's still an incomplete picture.

But, I know you're type. You have a need to do what you do.
 
All of your laugh emoticons can't change the fact that Kobe now has one for every finger and back to back NBA Final MVP's.

I'll bet my bottom dollar history won't remember Kobe Bryant the way you will.

You're nothing more than a Kobe hater who can only see the negatives and none of the positives. That's why your opinion can't be taken seriously. You can nit-pick any player to death, and focus only on the areas they didn't excel in to bolster your opinion...

...but it's still an incomplete picture.

But, I know you're type. You have a need to do what you do.

amen.
this niggass on here act like kobe took their lunch money when they were little.
the fact is he has five rings and is going to the hof. nothing they can say will negate these two things. these 2 facts burn these guys up:lol:
 
I don't get why anyone is saying Pau was the most consistent player. It's not like he or Kobe played great every game. Both had good and bad games.

Also, as the #1 option on the team, Kobe was going to get the MVP. I mean, I don't see why this is such a big shock. People like Kobe didn't show up this series. The dude was averaging thirty almost the entire series, and finished the series with 8 rebounds...

...while being the main focus on the Celtics defense. Of course it's going to be hard for him to put up great statistics. Hell, they were saying prior to game 7 that Kobe was the MVP even if the didn't win!

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it's funny how ppl used to clown Gasol for being soft. He muscled the shit outta KG in game 7. Outrebounded him 18-3 out hustled him. KG's ass got old in this series. Plus, with all this talk about how great a coach Doc Rivers is, his ass fucked up last night, played his starters too much and they ran out of gas. Especially Pierce, 46 mins of having strong assed Artest laying on your ass?!?! He's as responsible for the loss as anybody. Your up double figures...give your starters a rest from time to time... :smh:
 
Plus, with all this talk about how great a coach Doc Rivers is, his ass fucked up last night, played his starters too much and they ran out of gas. Especially Pierce, 46 mins of having strong assed Artest laying on your ass?!?! He's as responsible for the loss as anybody. Your up double figures...give your starters a rest from time to time... :smh:

You're nuts.

Doc, once again, got his team up to play when everybody counted them out. If Scal plays any significant minutes or Mr. Parker play even one possession, the game is lost. The C's didn't lose this because they were tired. GTFOH with that shit.
 
I was going for Boston but real shit, the person Im happiest for the most is Ron Artest. Dude has been through alot and you can tell from that press conference he's truly happy with his performance and the ring.
 
facts:

19 free throw attempts in the 4th quarter for the Lakers.

17 free throw attempts for the Celtics the entire game.

37 free throw attempts for the Lakers this game.

Another one of the Lakers' wins this series they barely won the game in, they also had more than double the FT attempts of the Celtics.

Lakers shot 21 free throws in the 4th quarter. 16 of those free throws were in the final six minutes. Lakers shot more free throws in the final eight minutes of the game than the Celtics did all game.

the officiating was great through 3 quaters, players were deciding the game not the refs(celts were up all through these periods btw) then came the 4th and we all saw what happened. ft's on every possession for la,

from inside hoops.

I tend to agree...however if the C's made their shots it would have been a moot point.

It's home court advantage for a reason.
 
You're nuts.

Doc, once again, got his team up to play when everybody counted them out. If Scal plays any significant minutes or Mr. Parker play even one possession, the game is lost. The C's didn't lose this because they were tired. GTFOH with that shit.

the C's lost because they couldnt capitalize on the Lakers mistakes and they couldnt rebound. the lakers shot 26% at halftime and were only down like 6pts. The C's have a knack of getting something started than stop going to it. Wallace in the post was a problem and they stopped going to it.
 
Eat a dick to ALL of you LAKER and KOBE haters!!! Bitch we did it for the second year in a row!!! FUCK all of y'all, and fuck all of you thread posters with the anti- laker and anti-Kobe messages.
 
the C's lost because they couldnt capitalize on the Lakers mistakes and they couldnt rebound. the lakers shot 26% at halftime and were only down like 6pts. The C's have a knack of getting something started than stop going to it. Wallace in the post was a problem and they stopped going to it.

Rebounding killed them.

That 26% figure is misinterpreted. It wasn't like the Lakers were missing a bunch of wide open jumpers. They were missing a lot of shots at the basket cuz the C's were defending greatly and either block or significantly altered those shots, however the length of the Lakers was killing them, resulting in several offensive rebounds. 2-3 Celtics were contesting almost all of the shots Pau and Bynum were putting up, so when they forced a miss there was no one left to rebound.
 
Rebounding killed them.

That 26% figure is misinterpreted. It wasn't like the Lakers were missing a bunch of wide open jumpers. They were missing a lot of shots at the basket cuz the C's were defending greatly and either block or significantly altered those shots, however the length of the Lakers was killing them, resulting in several offensive rebounds. 2-3 Celtics were contesting almost all of the shots Pau and Bynum were putting up, so when they forced a miss there was no one left to rebound.

yep..that and the careless turnovers..

people can bitch about the free throws in the 4th....but Boston shouldnt have been in that situation in the first place...
 
I've known since he was with Indiana that Ron was on medication.

as a hoyas fan i should have known about Artest from his St. John's days. Didnt he break/crack a couple of Jordan's ribs in a scrimmage some yrs ago? anyways i bet dude is layed up somewhere with a massive hangover :lol:
 
Well I'm eating just about everything I posted in this thread. It's tough to swallow, but congrats Laker fans and bandwaggoners!!

LA proved me wrong on everything I criticized them about. That my friends is what makes basketball the sport it is. Tobe realized something last night though. No matter how hard he worked or how hard he tried, Kobe could not defeat the C's D. It took Phil to pull Kobe Early in the 4th for him to understand the offense that needed to be ran. Kobe listened and trust the system. You can say what you about how the game was officiated, but it was an awesome game 7 with plenty of drama. LA dominated the boards and they simply just wanted more.

The C's knew they had to play a perfect game to win it, but fell just short. Im really proud of the C's and whether people want to admit this or not, the Celtics have changed how the game should be played in the league and motivated the Lakers to be what they should be. Defense and Team!!

Don't know what will happen to these C's next year [Starting 5 is still undefeated ;-) ], but if healthy with some fresh good young talent. The Big three may just come back for another run. People was so sure this year, but they ended up dismantling teams in the playoffs and changed the face of several franchises.
 
Well I'm eating just about everything I posted in this thread. It's tough to swallow, but congrats Laker fans and bandwaggoners!!

LA proved me wrong on everything I criticized them about. That my friends is what makes basketball the sport it is. Tobe realized something last night though. No matter how hard he worked or how hard he tried, Kobe could not defeat the C's D. It took Phil to pull Kobe Early in the 4th for him to understand the offense that needed to be ran. Kobe listened and trust the system. You can say what you about how the game was officiated, but it was an awesome game 7 with plenty of drama. LA dominated the boards and they simply just wanted more.

The C's knew they had to play a perfect game to win it, but fell just short. Im really proud of the C's and whether people want to admit this or not, the Celtics have changed how the game should be played in the league and motivated the Lakers to be what they should be. Defense and Team!!

Don't know what will happen to these C's next year [Starting 5 is still undefeated ;-) ], but if healthy with some fresh good young talent. The Big three may just come back for another run. People was so sure this year, but they ended up dismantling teams in the playoffs and changed the face of several franchises.

i agree with every word of this.
 
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MJ 1996 finals game 6

5-19 26% FG 22pts, 7ast, 9 rebs, 2stls, 5tos

Kobe 2010 finals game 7

6-24 25% 23pts, 2ast, 15 rebs, 1stl 4tos



Now, before you guys get sensitive, I'm not saying Kobe's better. But for someone who's the obvious GOAT, he's had a poor game 7 in the finals.

I'm starting to get tired of the revisionist history and nostalgia where MJ is concerned.

The Boston Celtics defense is also a much better defense than the Seattle Supersonics.

He shot poorly, very poorly, but he hit shots when they mattered, hit free throws when they mattered, played great defense and rebounded the ball like his life depended on it.

CO_SIGN neither Kobe or Gasol was having a good shooting game UNTIL CRUNCH TIME at the 6:11 mark. Check out the play by play and tell me if this isn't how WINNERS WIN...Oh yeah check the SIG when you finish looking at this

6:11 64-64 Derek Fisher makes 26-foot three point jumper (Pau Gasol assists)
5:56 Rajon Rondo misses 7-foot jumper 64-64
5:56 64-64 Kobe Bryant defensive rebound
5:56 Glen Davis loose ball foul (Kobe Bryant draws the foul) 64-64
5:56 64-64 Official timeout
5:56 64-65 Kobe Bryant makes free throw 1 of 2
5:56 64-66 Kobe Bryant makes free throw 2 of 2

5:37 Ray Allen misses 18-foot jumper 64-66
5:35 64-66 Kobe Bryant defensive rebound
5:22 64-68 Kobe Bryant makes 17-foot two point shot

5:20 Boston full timeout
5:20 Rasheed Wallace enters the game for Glen Davis 64-68
5:01 Paul Pierce misses 27-foot three point jumper 64-68
5:00 64-68 Kobe Bryant defensive rebound
4:37 Kevin Garnett shooting foul (Pau Gasol draws the foul) 64-68
4:37 64-69 Pau Gasol makes free throw 1 of 2
4:37 64-70 Pau Gasol makes free throw 2 of 2

4:20 Ray Allen misses two point shot 64-70
4:16 64-70 Kobe Bryant defensive rebound
3:57 64-70 Kobe Bryant misses 19-foot jumper
3:56 Kevin Garnett defensive rebound 64-70
3:45 Paul Pierce makes 15-foot two point shot (Rajon Rondo assists) 66-70
3:20 Paul Pierce shooting foul (Kobe Bryant draws the foul) 66-70
3:20 66-70 Kobe Bryant misses free throw 1 of 2
3:20 66-70 Los Angeles offensive team rebound
3:20 66-71 Kobe Bryant makes free throw 2 of 2
3:10 Kevin Garnett makes slam dunk (Rasheed Wallace assists) 68-71
2:47 Kevin Garnett shooting foul (Pau Gasol draws the foul) 68-71
2:47 68-72 Pau Gasol makes free throw 1 of 2
2:47 68-73 Pau Gasol makes free throw 2 of 2

2:29 Paul Pierce misses jumper 68-73
2:28 68-73 Pau Gasol defensive rebound
2:19 Paul Pierce personal foul (Pau Gasol draws the foul) 68-73
2:19 68-73 Pau Gasol misses free throw 1 of 2
2:19 68-73 Los Angeles offensive team rebound
2:19 68-74 Pau Gasol makes free throw 2 of 2
2:14 68-74 Ron Artest personal foul (Paul Pierce draws the foul)
2:14 Paul Pierce makes free throw 1 of 2 69-74
2:14 Paul Pierce makes free throw 2 of 2 70-74
1:54 70-74 Lamar Odom misses three point jumper
1:54 Paul Pierce defensive rebound 70-74
1:47 Pau Gasol blocks Paul Pierce's layup 70-74
1:46 Paul Pierce offensive rebound 70-74
1:45 Paul Pierce bad pass 70-74
1:30 70-76 Pau Gasol makes layup
1:30 Boston full timeout
1:23 Rasheed Wallace makes 24-foot three point jumper (Paul Pierce assists) 73-76
1:00 73-79 Ron Artest makes 26-foot three point jumper (Kobe Bryant assists)
0:51 Ray Allen makes three point jumper (Rajon Rondo assists) 76-79
0:28 76-79 Kobe Bryant misses 26-foot three point jumper
0:27 76-79 Pau Gasol offensive rebound
0:25 Rasheed Wallace shooting foul (Kobe Bryant draws the foul) 76-79
0:25 Glen Davis enters the game for Rasheed Wallace 76-79
0:25 76-80 Kobe Bryant makes free throw 1 of 2
0:25 76-81 Kobe Bryant makes free throw 2 of 2

0:25 Boston 20 Sec. timeout
0:25 Nate Robinson enters the game for Glen Davis 76-81
0:19 Ray Allen misses 26-foot three point jumper 76-81
0:18 Rajon Rondo offensive rebound 76-81
0:16 Rajon Rondo makes 26-foot three point jumper 79-81
0:13 Los Angeles 20 Sec. timeout
0:13 79-81 Sasha Vujacic enters the game for Ron Artest
0:11 Ray Allen personal foul (Sasha Vujacic draws the foul) 79-81
0:11 79-82 Sasha Vujacic makes free throw 1 of 2
0:11 Glen Davis enters the game for Nate Robinson 79-82
0:11 79-83 Sasha Vujacic makes free throw 2 of 2
0:11 Boston 20 Sec. timeout
0:11 79-83 Ron Artest enters the game for Sasha Vujacic
0:11 Nate Robinson enters the game for Glen Davis 79-83
0:04 Rajon Rondo misses 27-foot three point jumper 79-83
0:03 79-83 Pau Gasol defensive rebound
0:00 End of the 4th Quarter
 
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MJ 1996 finals game 6

5-19 26% FG 22pts, 7ast, 9 rebs, 2stls, 5tos

Kobe 2010 finals game 7

6-24 25% 23pts, 2ast, 15 rebs, 1stl 4tos



Now, before you guys get sensitive, I'm not saying Kobe's better. But for someone who's the obvious GOAT, he's had a poor game 7 in the finals.

I'm starting to get tired of the revisionist history and nostalgia where MJ is concerned.

The Boston Celtics defense is also a much better defense than the Seattle Supersonics.

He shot poorly, very poorly, but he hit shots when they mattered, hit free throws when they mattered, played great defense and rebounded the ball like his life depended on it.

Like I said in another thread, Kobe's biggest issue is that his emotions can get the best of him. A lot of his shots were good looks, and a lot were terrible looks - some terrible because the Celtics defense was stingy, some terrible because he just took plain ole dumb shots.

I don't think they heard you
 
I'm disappointed in the Celtics, what a way to go out and can't blame the refs either they backed off the whistle most of the game and let them play for the most part. They just could not convert on second chance opportunities(crashing the boards and getting to the line) and gave up too many rebounds which is credited to the awesome performance of the Lakers big men. Don't even get me started on Ray-Ray :smh::smh::smh::smh:
 
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