BP Spill: Brits say We're Bashing

QueEx

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British Prime Minister David Cameron and U.S President Barack Obama
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as America's worst environmental disaster. But now it could also damage relations between Washington and London. <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">The UK leader is under increasing pressure to stand up to Obama over his slamming of the British oil company BP</span>.</font size>


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  • <font size="3">British business and shareholder groups, alarmed that Obama's attacks could worsen BP's problems and fuel a backlash against other British businesses in the United States, are also clamouring for Cameron to defend the company.
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  • <font size="3">The Standard, a London newspaper normally broadly supportive of Cameron's Conservatives, accused Obama of "masking his own failure to react quickly" to the spill by whipping up sentiment against BP.
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  • <font size="3">"<SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">Shame</span> too, <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">on the British government</span>, which has <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">not tried to defend BP</span> or counter Mr Obama's jingoism," it said.
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  • <font size="3">"I think a gentle message to President Obama, which would be 'Grow up and consider the best interests of your country instead of grandstanding' might be in order," veteran Conservative politician Norman Tebbit told BBC television.
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BP Disaster Spills Over Into U.S.-England Relations </font size>

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    Lord Digby Jones

    <font size="3">Former CBI director general Lord Digby Jones, who was a trade minister in the last government, said <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">the Prime Minister should make it clear the problem is not just a British one.</span>
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  • <font size="3">"I would like British Prime Minister David Cameron to say to the President of the US, 'look this is an international problem'.
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  • <font size="3">"This isn't a British problem, BP is an international company, it employs more people in America than Britain and 40% of its dividend income goes to American pension funds. "It's an American company that built this, it's an American company that operated this "Is BP to blame, yes, but will you stop calling this a British problem."
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  • <font size="3">London Mayor Boris Johnson had already demanded an <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">end</span> to <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">the "beating up" of the oil firm</span>, urging the American administration to avoid "name calling" and "buck passing".
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<font size="3">Britain's top business figures to send letter to President Barack Obama in protest against his criticism of BP and its CEO over the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.</font size>

The letter:
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RSA boss John Napier said he wants the old Obama back. Pic:
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Dear President Obama,

Please forgive this open letter but your comments towards BP and its CEO as reported here are coming across as somewhat prejudicial and personal.

There is no doubt that BP, as a UK PLC, is totally committed to do everything possible to contain the oil leak and meet all its obligations in the USA.

The existing CEO is the best person to deliver that effort and has made that personal commitment and made himself available in the USA.

In your words, "he has taken the heat" and not hidden in his office. The real response has been total. You could argue a poor PR performance, but BP are not alone in that.

There is a sense here that these attacks are being made because BP is British.

If you compare the damage inflicted on the economies of the western world by polluted securities from the irresponsible, unchecked greed and avarice of leading USA international banks, there has not been the same personalised response in or from countries beyond the US.

Perhaps a case of double standards? Deep sea oil exploration was pushed forward as part of a USA oil security strategy as have a number of foreign policy initiatives in key areas in the world where we are standing shoulder to shoulder.

Whilst we all recognise the seriousness of the situation there is a need to put some balance back into the situation.

Many of us applauded your promise of a new approach to politics, USA foreign policy and world leadership.

Both you and the CEO of BP are caught up in the resolution of issues dealing with the emerging risks of strategies that you did not necessarily determine.

The immediate issues are very challenging but are best solved working together in a more Statesman like way.

The leak may take time to fix, and it will be, but Afghanistan and Iraq will take much longer.

We can all agree that the first and absolute priority is to stem the leak. Perhaps the second one is to ensure the reputation of the Presidency outside the USA is seen as objective, balanced, able and capable of taking the heat when under pressure.

We liked the Obama we saw at your election, can we have more of it please.

Yours sincerely,

John Napier

:: Mr Napier is chairman of insurance group RSA.
 
The irony is that Americans own 39% of the share capital and British own 40% and the rest is owned by other parties!!!
 
The irony is that Americans own 39% of the share capital and British own 40% and the rest is owned by other parties!!!

But, do you see what has transpired thus far with respect to the spill as: 'British Bashing' ??? I've watch lots of the coverage and I live and own a business along the Gulf Coast, but I haven't noticed an "Anti-British" attitude. Perhaps, I'm too close.

Whats your take ???

QueEx
 
But, do you see what has transpired thus far with respect to the spill as: 'British Bashing' ??? I've watch lots of the coverage and I live and own a business along the Gulf Coast, but I haven't noticed an "Anti-British" attitude. Perhaps, I'm too close.

Whats your take ???

QueEx

I live in England and I have noticed that British percieve it to be British bashing.
They site as and example the fact that 'apparantly' BP is being referred to as 'British Petroleum' when it has ben known as BP for decades.
However I'm not privy to the US media portral to make an informed opinion.
 
Interesting CD.

As I said, live within a stone's throw of the Gulf and I haven't heard that kind of sentiment. Of course, some people do occasionally refer to BP as 'British Petroleum' -- but I strongly suspect that is only because many people tend to refer to people, companies, etc., by names they are now or were once familiar.

Even to me, BP is synonymous with British Petroleum and British Petroleum is synonymous with BP. I'd bet the boat, however, that 99% of the people in this area do not believe that the British people or government have anything to do with the Company or the disaster. I know I don't see British even as I see oil ruining a piece of my life.

I started this thread after reading a "Bashing" story and thought it was quiet odd since I had not heard that before.

Apparently, its not odd, after all.

QueEx
 

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We don't really give a shit who owns a company, where it comes from, etc. We're interested in cleaning up the mess; stopping the mess before it ruins precious habitat, seafood, beaches, and making people and business interest whole, etc. It could be EXXON, Shell, or the United States Government, for that matter -- each and all of them would be catching PURE HELL for this disaster. Hence, BP is catching and will continue to catch, HELL.

An entity's origins, whether British or U.S., cannot absolve it of criticism or wrath for its negligence and reckless conduct. It would be an understatement to think that the people of this region are anything less than mad as fuck!

I know this is beyond your or my control, but the British press and government would be well advised to steer well clear of a company that people perceive as untrustworthy liars and uncaring about our environment. If British people think BP is being unfairly singled-out now, watch the temperature rise sharply if it becomes the perception that the British people, press and/or government are backing BP.

QueEx
 

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We don't really give a shit who owns a company, where it comes from, etc. We're interested in cleaning up the mess; stopping the mess before it ruins precious habitat, seafood, beaches, and making people and business interest whole, etc. It could be EXXON, Shell, or the United States Government, for that matter -- each and all of them would be catching PURE HELL for this disaster. Hence, BP is catching and will continue to catch, HELL.

An entity's origins, whether British or U.S., cannot absolve it of criticism or wrath for its negligence and reckless conduct. It would be an understatement to think that the people of this region are anything less than mad as fuck!

I know this is beyond your or my control, but the British press and government would be well advised to steer well clear of a company that people perceive as untrustworthy liars and uncaring about our environment. If British people think BP is being unfairly singled-out now, watch the temperature rise sharply if it becomes the perception that the British people, press and/or government are backing BP.

QueEx

I hear dat!
I think most resonable people just want the leak to be stopped and the mess to be cleared up.
The best move for BP would be to sort this mess up asap and beg forgiveness and implement measures to ensure this kind of thing is less likely to happen again..
 
I hear dat!
I think most resonable people just want the leak to be stopped and the mess to be cleared up.
The best move for BP would be to sort this mess up asap and beg forgiveness and implement measures to ensure this kind of thing is less likely to happen again..

My BGOL friend, if that happens, we'll all (BP included) have a Merry Christmas.

QueEx
 
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U.K. fury over Obama's ‘BP-bashing’</font size>
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The U.S. President's remark that his administration would not
hesitate to put the “boot on the throat of BP” is seen to
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The Hindu
June 16, 2010


If English nationalism was in full cry in South Africa last week as England played their opening World Cup match against America, back home, the entire nation (not just England) was seized by a wave of anti-Americanism over what was seen as “anti-British rhetoric” coming out of Washington in the wake of the BP oil spill crisis.

“USA vs Britain'' /England vs USA” read the front page of a leading British newspaper on Saturday as, in Rustenburg, England limbered up for their match against America and, in London, pressure mounted on Prime Minister David Cameron to launch a “fight back” against American “assault” on BP.

Over the past week everyone — from British businesses and the political class to the media — has been raging with fury against alleged “Britain-bashing” by Americans. And, in a sign that Britain's honeymoon with the Obama presidency may have started to wane, much of the anger is directed against Barack Obama himself. He has been accused of using “undiplomatic” language to “beat” BP while ignoring the failings of his own regulators.

The President's remark that his administration would not hesitate to put the “boot on the throat of BP” is seen to have diminished his reputation for “civility and eloquence,” as The Times put it saying that such language was “more reminiscent of Lyndon Johnson than John F. Kennedy.”

A screaming headline in the right-wing Daily Telegraph read, “Obama's boot on the throat of British pensioners” blaming the fall in BP's share price on President Obama's “aggressive rhetoric” and highlighting its impact on British pension funds who have invested in BP.

Even liberal pro-Obama commentators feel that his choice of words has been “uncharacteristic” of a man respected for his eloquence. Writing in the Left-wing Independent, a self-confessed admirer of President Obama said she felt “let down” by his “unattractive, undignified and, more importantly just plain unfair” attacks on BP.

The Financial Times called Washington's response “crudely populist” and “faintly xenophobic” saying the President “should stop treating BP as a hostile and alien entity.”


<font size="4">American “double standards” </font size>

Business leaders have attacked President Obama for being “prejudicial and personal” in dealing with BP. There have also been allegations of American “double standards” with the furore over BP being contrasted with America's “silence” when its own companies have been involved in criminal negligence abroad, such as the Bhopal gas tragedy and numerous “accidents” in Africa.

Newspapers have been deluged with letters from angry readers complaining that there is a nasty “anti-British” mood prevailing in America, fuelled by American Government's hostile comments. One Times' reader suggested that BP should change its name to Amoco, an American oil company it bought some years ago.

“That might put an end to the BP bashing that is taking place,” he wrote. Another pointed out that while BP was being attacked there was “no mention of the U.S. companies involved — Transocean, which owns the rig; and Halliburton, which was responsible for the sealing; or of the U.S. authorities responsible for overseeing offshore drilling.”

Politicians of all hues were quick to jump on the anti-U.S. bandwagon warning that America's “aggressive” attacks on BP could damage British-U.S. relations. London's Tory Mayor Boris Johnson called for an end to “buck passing and name calling” telling the BBC: “It starts to become a matter of national concern if a great British company is being continually beaten up on the international airwaves.”

Others were even more outspoken. One senior Tory MP accused President Obama of turning an accident into an “anti-British issue” while the Tory chairman of the Commons Foreign Affairs Committee, Richard Ottaway, urged the White House to ponder whether it was right to “interfere in the operations of an international overseas company.”

So, is the supposedly rock-solid British-U.S. “special” relationship in danger of hitting the skids?


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Barely four weeks into office, the last thing that the new British government wants is a diplomatic row with its closest ally and Mr. Cameron is trying hard not to be bullied into picking a fight with Washington so early in the innings. But, faced with mounting pressure, he was forced to raise the issue with President Obama in a telephone conversation at the weekend.

From the sanitised official version, according to which Mr. Cameron “stressed the economic importance of BP to the U.K., U.S. and other countries,” it is not clear how exactly (if at all) he conveyed to the President British anger over his “anti-British rhetoric.” Understandably, Downing Street was more keen to publicise the President's “assurance” that American “frustrations about the oil spill had nothing to do with national identity [of BP].” But, then, he would say that, wouldn't he?

Meanwhile, Britons must decide once and for all whether or not they regard BP as a British company. Britons have objected to the U.S. administration, including President Obama himself, “pointedly” referring to BP as “British Petroleum” though this has not been its name since 1998 (guess what it calls itself? “Beyond Petroleum”!). It is claimed that BP is a multinational company, employing more workers in America than it does in Britain, and by insisting on referring to it as “British Petroleum” Americans are deliberately fuelling anti-British sentiment.

The question is: if BP is not a British company then why this angst over “BP-bashing” and such intense pressure on the government to defend it? The fact is that a change of signboard notwithstanding BP remains very much a British company deeply embedded in British economy and the country's political establishment.

Why this coyness then?


http://beta.thehindu.com/opinion/columns/Hasan_Suroor/article458275.ece
 
The U.S. President's remark that his administration would not
hesitate to put the “boot on the throat of BP”




lol@you
Just like Bush, Obama and his admin helped BP get to status quo....now he wants to put "a boot on their throats". Kind reminds me of the relationship that the Bushes had with Saddam Hussein.
...and we all know how that one ended.


:lol:

The US government continues to do dirt...and then when the BS his the fan and the American people get angry.....then they wanna react and be on the Americans people side.....give me a fucking break.

Maybe if the American people revolted like those people over in Europe....then maybe our government will get their shit together.
 
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lol@you
Just like Bush, Obama and his admin helped BP get to status quo....now he wants to put "a boot on their throats". Kind reminds me of the relationship that the Bushes had with Saddam Hussein.
...and we all know how that one ended.


:lol:

The US government continues to do dirt...and then when the BS his the fan and the American people get angry.....then they wanna react and be on the Americans people side.....give me a fucking break.

Maybe if the American people revolted like those people over in Europe....then maybe our government will get their shit together.

Just like Bush, Obama and his admin helped BP get to status quo

What status quo, based on what? Be specfic.
 
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