Can we not drill ? ? ?

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<font size="3">If the oil spill off the Louisiana coast leads to a federal ban
on ultra-deepwater drilling and production it could cripple an
increasingly important source of America's domestic oil supply.

But, can we not drill ???


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Peeps here is the “One Trillion Pound Fact” about oil drilling that the ‘corporate media’ deliberately avoids telling you.

Oil drilled on US land or territorial waters DOES NOT go exclusively to the US.

There is NO US LAW that mandates that this happens.

Big Oil has consistently BLOCKED any such law.

The Alaskan pipeline oil that is flowing right now is primarily going to Japan!! You think that the brain-addled ‘drill-baby-drill’ crowd would know this?? Of course not; they are morons!!

Big Oil works in conjunction with the OPEC cartel to “manage” the price of oil by controlling the flow. Exxon/Mobil, British Petroleum (BP), Chevron, Royal Dutch etc. collude with Hugo Chavez (Venezuela), Muammar Qaddafi (Libya), The Saudis, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (Iran), Nigeria, Putin (Russia), etc. to maintain oil prices on the world market. They laugh their asses off at the ‘drill-baby-drill’ crowd as they cruise the planet on their GulfStream private jets.

The second largest owner of <s>FOX</s> FAKE News after Murdoch is Saudi Billionaire Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal.

Alwaleed flies around in a private jet palace with a crew of fifteen hand picked beautiful Ho’s. His plane makes President Obama’s Air Force One look like a toy plane.

It is a $485 million custom Airbus A380.
Check it out! - Read this link!

[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/MnEYf8w1Ab0&hl=en_US&fs=1&[/FLASH]

Until the congress can develop a spine and legislate tough safety regulations and a comprehensive domestic energy policy the Big Oil boys and their international partners will continue to rape & pillage American citizens wallets, their eco-systems and the environment.

In Russia when Big Oil cartel member Exxon/ Mobil tried to buy YUKOS OIL from Russian oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky who was CEO of YUKOS, Putin had Khodorkovsky arrested and voided the sale. Putin’s position was essentially “don’t bring that free market shit here” it’s Russian oil, it’s Russian national sovereignty at stake, No foreign oil company is going to own our biggest oil company. Khodorkovsky was arrested in 2003, he is still in jail. Putin showed more backbone than any US congress has ever shown against the International Oil Mafia.


 
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But when we drill here the people on the rigs and drills are Americans with jobs. Not to mention when they are drilling in all these places in the Dakotas and putting money into American hands. I was reading a story about some farmers that were not growing crops and making more money letting them use his land to drill for oil.
 

Peeps here is the “One Trillion Pound Fact” about oil drilling that the ‘corporate media’ deliberately avoids telling you.

Oil drilled on US land or territorial waters DOES NOT go exclusively to the US.

There is NO US LAW that mandates that this happens.

Big Oil has consistently BLOCKED any such law.

The Alaskan pipeline oil that is flowing right now is primarily going to Japan!! You think that the brain-addled ‘drill-baby-drill’ crowd would know this?? Of course not; they are morons!!

Big Oil works in conjunction with the OPEC cartel to “manage” the price of oil by controlling the flow. Exxon/Mobil, British Petroleum (BP), Chevron, Royal Dutch etc. collude with Hugo Chavez (Venezuela), Muammar Qaddafi (Libya), The Saudis, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (Iran), Nigeria, Putin (Russia), etc. to maintain oil prices on the world market. They laugh their asses off at the ‘drill-baby-drill’ crowd as they cruise the planet on their GulfStream private jets.

The second largest owner of <s>FOX</s> FAKE News after Murdoch is Saudi Billionaire Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal.

Alwaleed flies around in a private jet palace with a crew of fifteen hand picked beautiful Ho’s. His plane makes President Obama’s Air Force One look like a toy plane.

It is a $485 million custom Airbus A380.
Check it out!

Until the congress can develop a spine and legislate tough safety regulations and a comprehensive domestic energy policy the Big Oil boys and their international partners will continue to rape & pillage American citizens wallets, their eco-systems and the environment.

In Russia when Big Oil cartel member Exxon/ Mobil tried to buy YUKOS OIL from Russian oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky who was CEO of YUKOS, Putin had Khodorkovsky arrested and voided the sale. Putin’s position was essentially “don’t bring that free market shit here” it’s Russian oil, it’s Russian national sovereignty at stake, No foreign oil company is going to own our biggest oil company. Khodorkovsky was arrested in 2003, he is still in jail. Putin showed more backbone than any US congress has ever shown against the International Oil Mafia.



First, oil rigs have very low rates of failure.

Second, oil is a very fungable commodity. Most oil is actually purchased locally/regionally.

Third, OPEC always has problems with it's members violating thier sell quotas. It's like trying to trap smoke.

Fourth, I think you are wrong about Yukos. The head of Yukos is a political enemyh of Putin, and may have opposed him if his fortunes stayed up. Thats why Putin went after him.

Fifth, Russia is one of the largest producers and EXPORTERS of Oil, and thewy still have an unreliable power grid.

Sixth, it seems odd that on one hand you condemn Americas government for not acting in the peoples best interests, but laud Russias government for not following it's own rules.
 

The OPEC oil cartel and non- OPEC member major oil producers act in a similar fashion to the diamond cartel. What does this mean? The South African- Israeli dominated diamond cartel has millions of diamonds locked away in vaults. Diamonds are NOT rare. Just one example. The ancient coastal desert beaches of the African country Namibia are littered with tons of diamonds. If diamonds are not rare, how are diamond prices maintained? They are maintained by the diamond cartel which releases finished diamonds judiciously from their massive vaults in Europe in order to control the price. No member of the diamond cartel would openly flood the world diamond market with stones causing the diamond price to precipitously drop; because that would not be in their best long term financial interest.

Now back to the oil cartel. The oil cartel operates in the same fashion as the diamond cartel, going all the way back to the Rockefeller family Standard Oil Trusts of the late 19th – early 20th century. By 1882 Rockefeller controlled 90% of the United States oil market. Rockefeller controlled the production distribution and price of oil. Complete vertical and horizontal integration. President Teddy Roosevelt and others broke up the Standard Oil Trust but that didn’t stop the split companies from acting together in the same fashion as the original huge trust. The severed companies acted together as a big Oil Oligarchy. Read the Sampson book http://www.amazon.com/dp/0553242377/?tag=vp314-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0553242377/?tag=vp314-20 for the complete history.

The tactics and strategy of Rockefeller’s standard Oil Trust remain in force today. The Seven Sisters (the seven largest oil companies) have now merged into the Three Sisters. The biggest of the sisters is Exxon/ Mobil. In 1911 BP (British Petroleum) discovered oil in Iran. In 1938 three of the then Seven Sisters discovered oil in Saudi Arabia. Other British and American oil company drilled oil wells, were discovered in Iraq, Kuwait, Indonesia, Venezuela, Mexico etc. The western oil companies dictated the price they would pay these countries for the oil. In 1953 the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddeq of IRAN, Time Magazine’s MAN OF THE YEAR , asked BP (British Petroleum) for an increase to 50% of the oil money they were receiving from their Iranian wells. They refused. Instead they had him removed from office using the C.I.A. and replaced him with the tyrannical dictatorship of the Shah of Iran. The US is suffering the repercussions of that Iranian Coup to-this-day.

In 1960 OPEC was founded. Up until 1973 the most the western oil companies offered these countries for the oil was $3.00 per barrel or less. In 1973 triggered by the Arab – Israeli conflict, OPEC flexed its muscles and told the oil majors that the new price of oil would now be $12.00 per barrel. This resulted in US gasoline lines and rationing. The western oil majors were in an adversarial relationship with the emerging Mid-East and other foreign crude oil producers.

Fast forward to today. Today as I pointed out in a previous thread, there is NO adversarial relationship between the major western oil companies and OPEC and other major oil exporters. They all work loosely together to maintain prices. There is minimal cheating on oil production quotas. Discipline is pretty remarkable The oil price right now (May 2010) is higher than warranted based on demand. Production quotas are working. No one wants the disaster of 1986 when oil prices collapsed to $10.00 per barrel. Things are good for the Oil Mafia.

The US congress and the US Executive (The President) unlike other nation states have refused to develop a national energy strategy. The big Oil companies have used -$$$$$$$$$$$$$$- to intimidate and own the congress & the presidency. This current oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico, the BP Texas City 2005 refinery disaster and many others shows what happens when regulation is lax and enforcement is non-existent. No national energy policy puts the US in a position where despite the abundance of sunlight in vast areas of the US we have less solar power capability than Germany.

The Russian situation with YUKOS is as I described it. The CEO of YUKOS wanted to sell to Exxon/ Mobil and bank the proceeds in Western bank accounts; Switzerland, Lichtenstein, Cayman Islands etc. Putin wasn’t going to let that go down. The former Russian leader Boris Yeltsin following the advice of the Milton Freidman’s free-market “Chicago Boys” had allowed Russia, post communism, to be dismantled, plundered and sold out to Yeltsin favored oligarchs. Yeltsin in a drunken stupor had no clue what the “Chicago Boys” ‘medicine’ was doing to the country.
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Putin’s action was no different than what happened here in 2005. Remember the furor when</span> CHINA’s third-largest oil producer attempted to buy California-based US Oil Company Unocal Corp. for in a $18.5 billion. <span style="background-color:yellow">The US congress ironically said the same thing Putin said “don’t bring that free market shit here”. </b></span>

As far as a Russian electrical grid is concerned- Name me a country with a 24/7 modern electrical grid that services the entire country including rural areas that DOES NOT have a functioning MIDDLE CLASS. Russia has NO middle class. Unlike the United States you can not survive in Russia on a post office worker or police officer or school teacher or truck driver or health department worker salary. Russia’s live expectancy for Russian men is actually dropping. Russia is depopulating despite government incentives to have children. Anyhow enough for now, one forgets this is primarily an electronic porn peep show board.


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The OPEC oil cartel and non- OPEC member major oil producers act in a similar fashion to the diamond cartel. What does this mean? The South African- Israeli dominated diamond cartel has millions of diamonds locked away in vaults. Diamonds are NOT rare. Just one example. The ancient coastal desert beaches of the African country Namibia are littered with tons of diamonds. If diamonds are not rare, how are diamond prices maintained? They are maintained by the diamond cartel which releases finished diamonds judiciously from their massive vaults in Europe in order to control the price. No member of the diamond cartel would openly flood the world diamond market with stones causing the diamond price to precipitously drop; because that would not be in their best long term financial interest.

DAMN!

After reading this post, it's like I just watched a documentary on oil policy over the last century.

How the hell do you know all this? And, did you write all this yourself? Are you in the oil industry or something? This is like something you would read from Matt Simmons, Chris Martenson, or Jim Rogers.
 
DAMN!

After reading this post, it's like I just watched a documentary on oil policy over the last century.

How the hell do you know all this? And, did you write all this yourself? Are you in the oil industry or something? This is like something you would read from Matt Simmons, Chris Martenson, or Jim Rogers.

The info on how the diamond cartels methods of market control are well known.



^ This was on the history channel and they go into the details of how the industry was consolidated in the early formation of the first diamond mining operations to maintain price control.

muckraker10021 is right though Oil cartel/Big Oil work in the same fashion.​
 


The info on how the diamond cartels methods of market control are well known.​


I guess the comparison between diamonds and oil had never been made to me before.

Whites seem to always want to fix prices once they realize there is a profit to be had.

They create a guild, or bar, or trust, or union, or whatever to block competition, restrict supply, and raise prices.

Whites do it with...

oil (7 Sisters/3 Sisters),
diamonds (DeBeers),
credit (Federal Reserve, IMF),
banking (Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Chase, Citicorp, BofA)
food (Monsanto, ADM)
media (AT&T, Disney, TimeWarner, Viacom)
transportation (Big 3)

Whites HATE and DESPISE competition and open markets.

I wonder if it's in their blood?​
 
I guess the comparison between diamonds and oil had never been made to me before.

Whites seem to always want to fix prices once they realize there is a profit to be had.

They create a guild, or bar, or trust, or union, or whatever to block competition, restrict supply, and raise prices.

Whites do it with...

oil (7 Sisters/3 Sisters),
diamonds (DeBeers),
credit (Federal Reserve, IMF),
banking (Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Chase, Citicorp, BofA)
food (Monsanto, ADM)
media (AT&T, Disney, TimeWarner, Viacom)
transportation (Big 3)

Whites HATE and DESPISE competition and open markets.

I wonder if it's in their blood?

Maybe. Maybe not.

The real problem IMO is how so many of a group fall for this stuff.

Going in the opposite direction is hard but with so many avenues of opportunity for others to take it amazes me how so many follow the conformist way of life like cattle.
 
First, oil rigs have very low rates of failure.


So do nuclear power plants. But the failure of one nuclear power plant will be/have been catastrophic. Nuclear power plants cannot get insurance in the private market place. the only place that will insure them against risk is the government!

Realistically error, either human or scientific is always a risk we will have to accept in order to progress, however, when capitalistic gains are placed before the safety of the greater society then the only firewall between the wealthy and the greater public is unfortunately government regulation. corporations spend millions if not billions lobbying against any regulation that will hinder their profits. Their could have been mandated steps that could have prevent this accident. But could bet that some oil lobbyist bitch and moaned about how that was going to slow them down and prevent them from hiring some poor slob.

This is right in line with you defending the fat cats.
 
I guess the comparison between diamonds and oil had never been made to me before.

Whites seem to always want to fix prices once they realize there is a profit to be had.

They create a guild, or bar, or trust, or union, or whatever to block competition, restrict supply, and raise prices.

Whites do it with...

oil (7 Sisters/3 Sisters),
diamonds (DeBeers),
credit (Federal Reserve, IMF),
banking (Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Chase, Citicorp, BofA)
food (Monsanto, ADM)
media (AT&T, Disney, TimeWarner, Viacom)
transportation (Big 3)

Whites HATE and DESPISE competition and open markets.

I wonder if it's in their blood?

Whites? Try they capitalistic model. It is intrinsic.
 
99.9998% of Americans fail to make the link between their personal behavior and disasters such as the gulf oil spill. Americans have bigger cars and drive further per capita than any people on earth. We walk the least, build are homes further from population centers and make no serious public transportation policies. When a president tries to institute a suggestion of an energy policy, it is resisted as socialism and the take over of the private market place.

What was the main cause of the spill is the fat bloated American that has gotten more obese over the last 10 years than they have ever been. Time to look in the mirror folks!
 
99.9998% of Americans fail to make the link between their personal behavior and disasters such as the gulf oil spill. Americans have bigger cars and drive further per capita than any people on earth. We walk the least, build are homes further from population centers and make no serious public transportation policies. When a president tries to institute a suggestion of an energy policy, it is resisted as socialism and the take over of the private market place.

With the examples you've laid out, I wouldn't say a policy is resisted as socialism, rather an encroachment of freedom. If my neighbor wants to get a Hummer, who am I to say question his/her choice? Same goes with where I or anyone else may choose to live. Thats an individuals choice

Am I wrong to assume you are not an advocate of freedom?

Who's to say a President knows what is best in regards to an energy policy? I'll say what I've always said, Let the people decide!
 
Originally Posted by muckraker10021

Now back to the oil cartel. The oil cartel operates in the same fashion as the diamond cartel, going all the way back to the Rockefeller family Standard Oil Trusts of the late 19th – early 20th century. By 1882 Rockefeller controlled 90% of the United States oil market. Rockefeller controlled the production distribution and price of oil. Complete vertical and horizontal integration. President Teddy Roosevelt and others broke up the Standard Oil Trust but that didn’t stop the split companies from acting together in the same fashion as the original huge trust. The severed companies acted together as a big Oil Oligarchy. Read the Sampson book The Seven Sisters for the complete history.


Drilling is just aspect the real issue is when will these companies declare themselves sovereign governments that are above the law.
 
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