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Lamar Odom: "Our aura comes off soft right now."
Wednesday, March 10, 2010


They reflected the mood in a Lakers locker room in which nobody was particularly happy with what it took- more Kobe Bryant heroics- to dispatch a middle-of-the-road Eastern Conference team coming into the game with a 10-19 mark south of the Canadian border. The normally gregarious Odom spoke while seated and facing his locker, often in what came off as an angry, occasionally muttering rant.

It was tough to discern every word perfectly, but the meaning each was perfectly clear.

"We’ve got dudes on the Raptors talking (trash)," he said, noting Toronto hasn't exactly arrived as an NBA powerhouse. "But our disposition as a team gives some of these young cats, these dudes, the right. They feel like they got the right. A couple of dudes talking to me today, if I’d have talked to Charles Oakley like one of those dudes like that, I probably would have been smacked in my face."

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The smack talk happens because over the season's first 65 games the Lakers played with too little focus, too cavalier an attitude. "It’s given these teams like a quiet confidence, where they think they can beat us," Odom continued. "They start talking and carrying on. Extra animated, even when they come here. I don’t expect that. The respect level, it seems like we’ve got to take it from teams."

"(They're) way too confident against us.”

The season didn't start this way, he noted. "I felt like we were [taking it to teams] at the beginning of the year," he said. Odom then made a sound almost like a steam engine, driving and pushing relentlessly, demonstrating how they attacked teams. "(Opponents) are like, “Man, it’s too hard.”

Whatever it was the Lakers had, that extra edge of a champion causing the opposition to flinch at important times, Odom said it was gone. "Now, at this point of the season, teams watching are like “Yeah, we can beat (those guys.)”

It can be difficult to quantify the importance of individual games over a season. They are all one of eighty two, each with the possibility of bringing something significant and also with the potential to be overblown. Does it right and truly matter if a title team loses a random game to the Clippers four months before the playoffs? What about a Christmas game against Cleveland?

But over 65 games, patterns emerge. The Lakers haven't fared well against the best teams in the NBA. They've required Bryant to bail them out seven times, and asked him to do it three more. The record is solid, but feels emptier. So I agree with Odom- the '09-'10 brew of injuries, lack of continuity, and complacency has punched huge holes in L.A.'s air of invincibility. Now add the fact every team in the league gets geared up to play the Lakers in a down year, let alone during a title defense, and it's easy to see how much harder the Lakers may have made things for themselves en route to a possible repeat.

I might not be right all that often, but have said for a while the way in which the Lakers have seemed determined to improve the collective morale across the NBA could hurt them. In a playoff environment where the margins are thin and intangibles matter, could the confidence Cleveland, Dallas, and Denver have gained against them be what costs the Lakers a second straight title? It may be impossible to know, but should L.A. fail in the playoffs I guarantee it'll be something people point to.

That was one half of Odom's message. The other? From his perspective, "it," the idea teams can play the Lakers with swagger they may not have earned with a title, ends now.

"That (expletive) Matt Barnes pulled? That ain’t never gonna happen again. He was lucky it was a close game.”

Odom said Tuesday's was the second straight game in which he nearly was tossed, and seemed to imply an ejection might be coming. (Like I said, it was occasionally hard to tell exactly what he meant). Either way, Odom made it clear he wants to "go in there and mix it up." Not in a turn-back-the-clock-to-Pat-Riley's-Knicks way, but through aggressive, physical play. A hard foul. The determination to win games ugly.

In their own way, Derek Fisher, Pau Gasol, Phil Jackson, and Kobe said similar things after the game. The Lakers have officially made it harder for themselves. How they handle it from here will play a major role in whether or not we're all back at the Coliseum this June.

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles.../lamar-odom-our-aura-comes-off-soft-right-now
 
Oatmeal needs to stop shootin' threes and mix it up down low then. And he needs to make two foul shots in a row. I swear when her goes to the line to shoot two he never, ever makes both.
 
How many technicals were called in the 90s as opposed to the 00s?

I'm sick of this omnipresent NBA Cares campaign. They need to stop worrying about white people who are going to disdain their athletes no matter what and let the game be fun again and allow some emotion. If the NFL is the No Fun League, then the NBA must be the No Balls Association with its castration policies of the past decade.
 
Lamar Odom came off as soft when he:

1. Rapped off-beat in the Charles Barkley Taco Bell commercial;

2. When he became Mr Kardashian.
 
Let's see if he can back it up:confused:. Maybe some of that attitude will spread among the rest of the team:yes:
 
Hate to say I told you so, but I told the Stans last night, right after the game, exactly what Odom and Kobe have since said, and yet they were up in arms when I first said it.
Maybe they will listen when their hero tells them.
It will be interesting to see how the Lakers respond, because even in a win last night, a big chink of their armor has been lost, and the next few weeks is going to define how far the Lakers are going to go this year.
 
they need an enforcer on that team,not even a brother that plays,just a dude with nothing to lose.no concept of basketball,just a big brother to get in someones shit whenever necessary. they need


 
The lakers are soft. Whats more disturbing is the amount of (or lack of) respect opponents seem to have for Kobe in general. I've never seen a superstar get chumped and challenged as much as he does. Its just very telling the lack of respect he demands. On a professional level his talent is undeniable but on a personal level, cats just seem to not like/respect dude.
 
they need an enforcer on that team,not even a brother that plays,just a dude with nothing to lose.no concept of basketball,just a big brother to get in someones shit whenever necessary. they need



As another poster said in the thread where I posted this on the sports board...
i thought thats why they got Ron Artest in there.

It is a tough position for Artest, though... He has been the most vilified player in the league and I think he just wants to behave and try to make an "honest" contribution to a championship.
 
The lakers are soft. Whats more disturbing is the amount of (or lack of) respect opponents seem to have for Kobe in general. I've never seen a superstar get chumped and challenged as much as he does. Its just very telling the lack of respect he demands. On a professional level his talent is undeniable but on a personal level, cats just seem to not like/respect dude.

Why do you think that is?
 
Why do you think that is?
A litany of things. Both percieved and actual. Privileged upbringing, being a kid of entitlement. Being a bit of a recluse. Throwing teamates under the bus. Demanding trades. Being a defacto GM (remember one teammate saying to a reporter "ask Kobe, he the GM"). Being uncoachable and selfish (Phil Jacksons words not mine). The comments he made regarding Shaqs extramarital affairs. I just think the perception by many is that he is a punk, a brat, and asshole.
 
A litany of things. Both percieved and actual. Privileged upbringing, being a kid of entitlement. Being a bit of a recluse. Throwing teamates under the bus. Demanding trades. Being a defacto GM (remember one teammate saying to a reporter "ask Kobe, he the GM"). Being uncoachable and selfish (Phil Jacksons words not mine). The comments he made regarding Shaqs extramarital affairs. I just think the perception by many is that he is a punk, a brat, and asshole.

Well said, to me he was never respected off of the court.
 
As another poster said in the thread where I posted this on the sports board...


It is a tough position for Artest, though... He has been the most vilified player in the league and I think he just wants to behave and try to make an "honest" contribution to a championship.

artest is no rodman. point blank.some players there will never be another.rodman is one of them.box score? who gives a fuck about boxscores :lol: rodman was the first mma fighter
 
A litany of things. Both percieved and actual. Privileged upbringing, being a kid of entitlement. Being a bit of a recluse. Throwing teamates under the bus. Demanding trades. Being a defacto GM (remember one teammate saying to a reporter "ask Kobe, he the GM"). Being uncoachable and selfish (Phil Jacksons words not mine). The comments he made regarding Shaqs extramarital affairs. I just think the perception by many is that he is a punk, a brat, and asshole.

I had to look up the quote; it was Chucky Atkins. http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/?p=1409

I give him a pass on all that shit and some of it is why I began to like him in the first place... It's amazing that his upbringing could still be a factor after all these years (plus I recall someone who would know-- don't remember the name right now-- saying that NBA players aren't as typically poor as thought).
 
artest is no rodman. point blank.some players there will never be another.rodman is one of them.box score? who gives a fuck about boxscores :lol: rodman was the first mma fighter

You don't need another Rodman... You need somebody in that enforcer role. Bill Laimbeer. Charles Oakley, who Odom mentioned.

I don't get to see many different teams between my schedule and the TV schedule's lack of diversity, but I can't think of anybody in the NBA who really fits that description.
 
Well said, to me he was never respected off of the court.

There is still a lot of respect for Bryant the player.
Some other players in the league are just tired of seeing him get all the attention.
Dude been playing at an extremely high level for 14 plus years. They are starting to see cracks in the armour, a slightly slower step and opportunities to make a name for themselves.
Teams are getting up for the Lakers every night just like they did for the Celtics last season. They understand that when you come out and play them tough, anything can happen.

The Orlando Magic pull out a two-point win at home against the Lakers and they talk about it being a game seven.

Even after they have gone home for the summer and watched the Finals on t.v., up and coming 'stars' like Matt Barnes will be talking about how they got the best of Kobe and the Lakers in the regular season. :hmm:
 
I had to look up the quote; it was Chucky Atkins. http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/?p=1409

I give him a pass on all that shit and some of it is why I began to like him in the first place... It's amazing that his upbringing could still be a factor after all these years (plus I recall someone who would know-- don't remember the name right now-- saying that NBA players aren't as typically poor as thought).
Good find. Ole Chucky aint play another season with them after that comment either. :lol:

Also, the upbringing issue is just one of many factors i think play a part. In the scheme of things its probably way down the list though (in relation to the other things i listed).
 
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