Lamar Odom: "Our aura comes off soft right now."

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Lamar Odom: "Our aura comes off soft right now."
Wednesday, March 10, 2010


They reflected the mood in a Lakers locker room in which nobody was particularly happy with what it took- more Kobe Bryant heroics- to dispatch a middle-of-the-road Eastern Conference team coming into the game with a 10-19 mark south of the Canadian border. The normally gregarious Odom spoke while seated and facing his locker, often in what came off as an angry, occasionally muttering rant.

It was tough to discern every word perfectly, but the meaning each was perfectly clear.

"We’ve got dudes on the Raptors talking (trash)," he said, noting Toronto hasn't exactly arrived as an NBA powerhouse. "But our disposition as a team gives some of these young cats, these dudes, the right. They feel like they got the right. A couple of dudes talking to me today, if I’d have talked to Charles Oakley like one of those dudes like that, I probably would have been smacked in my face."

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The smack talk happens because over the season's first 65 games the Lakers played with too little focus, too cavalier an attitude. "It’s given these teams like a quiet confidence, where they think they can beat us," Odom continued. "They start talking and carrying on. Extra animated, even when they come here. I don’t expect that. The respect level, it seems like we’ve got to take it from teams."

"(They're) way too confident against us.”

The season didn't start this way, he noted. "I felt like we were [taking it to teams] at the beginning of the year," he said. Odom then made a sound almost like a steam engine, driving and pushing relentlessly, demonstrating how they attacked teams. "(Opponents) are like, “Man, it’s too hard.”

Whatever it was the Lakers had, that extra edge of a champion causing the opposition to flinch at important times, Odom said it was gone. "Now, at this point of the season, teams watching are like “Yeah, we can beat (those guys.)”

It can be difficult to quantify the importance of individual games over a season. They are all one of eighty two, each with the possibility of bringing something significant and also with the potential to be overblown. Does it right and truly matter if a title team loses a random game to the Clippers four months before the playoffs? What about a Christmas game against Cleveland?

But over 65 games, patterns emerge. The Lakers haven't fared well against the best teams in the NBA. They've required Bryant to bail them out seven times, and asked him to do it three more. The record is solid, but feels emptier. So I agree with Odom- the '09-'10 brew of injuries, lack of continuity, and complacency has punched huge holes in L.A.'s air of invincibility. Now add the fact every team in the league gets geared up to play the Lakers in a down year, let alone during a title defense, and it's easy to see how much harder the Lakers may have made things for themselves en route to a possible repeat.

I might not be right all that often, but have said for a while the way in which the Lakers have seemed determined to improve the collective morale across the NBA could hurt them. In a playoff environment where the margins are thin and intangibles matter, could the confidence Cleveland, Dallas, and Denver have gained against them be what costs the Lakers a second straight title? It may be impossible to know, but should L.A. fail in the playoffs I guarantee it'll be something people point to.

That was one half of Odom's message. The other? From his perspective, "it," the idea teams can play the Lakers with swagger they may not have earned with a title, ends now.

"That (expletive) Matt Barnes pulled? That ain’t never gonna happen again. He was lucky it was a close game.”

Odom said Tuesday's was the second straight game in which he nearly was tossed, and seemed to imply an ejection might be coming. (Like I said, it was occasionally hard to tell exactly what he meant). Either way, Odom made it clear he wants to "go in there and mix it up." Not in a turn-back-the-clock-to-Pat-Riley's-Knicks way, but through aggressive, physical play. A hard foul. The determination to win games ugly.

In their own way, Derek Fisher, Pau Gasol, Phil Jackson, and Kobe said similar things after the game. The Lakers have officially made it harder for themselves. How they handle it from here will play a major role in whether or not we're all back at the Coliseum this June.

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles.../lamar-odom-our-aura-comes-off-soft-right-now
 
i thought thats why they got Ron Artest in there.

It is a tough position for Artest, though... He has been the most vilified player in the league and I think he just wants to behave and try to make an "honest" contribution to a championship.
 
i thought thats why they got Ron Artest in there.

Artest has been tame since he had that season long time out. He is older, heavier, slower and playing timid on a finesse team now.

Artest is a downgrade compared to Ariza.

Fisher is older and slower.

Odom is not comfortable being a 6th man and he doesn't always show up.

Ok, on to the positives.

Shannon Brown and Farmar are energy and effort but they are not All Stars. Solid role players.

Andrew is a quiet contributor. He needs to come out from under Kobe's and Gasol's shadows. He has more potential than he is exhibiting. He needs to be working with a player more like Ewing than Kareem. Andrew doesn't have Kareem's touch and court awareness.

Gasol is a balling big man. He is going to do his thing. He made the lakers a championship club.

Kobe is older, slower and less than invincible. I see Kobe getting D'ed up multiple times in the same game. He is not taking over game after game anymore. He is still clutch, especially on the last possession of the game. Kobe is still the first player you should have on your roster.
 
Re: Lamar Odom

this has nothing to do with auras, image, or other bullshit buzz words you hear like swagger.

it has everything to do with a lack of basic respect for the game of BASKETBALL.

very few players in the league, let alone the fakers, have ANY respect for the game or the way it is meant to be played.

the fakers allow their efficient system to be hijacked by a reckless chucker, and they come off looking like shit. losing to sub .500 squads, struggling against teams that don't deserve to be close.

in past generations, strong squads played TEAM basketball and worked together to dismantle opponents.

when the celtics won their most recent title, it was their team D that confused and hampered their opponents.

when the fakers won last season, pau gasol and lamar odom had to work extra hard to overcome the obstacles tobe placed in their way.

if ALL of the fakers played together in coach jackson's system, they would be winning in such a way that it would COMMAND the respect of opponents and instill fear in their hearts at the same time.
 
Re: Lamar Odom

http://www.nba.com/games/20100312/LALPHX/gameinfo.html?ls=gt2hp0020900974

Go to 1:19.

Shannon Brown is guilty of the kind of bitch shit I see CONSTANTLY in the NBA today.

Contest the lay-up! You're one of three point guards in the rotation, make him earn the two points.

I didn't see the game but I can only imagine the Roethlisbergerian raping that Pau Gasol among others allowed Stoudemire to perpetrate in order to put up 17 points and eight rebounds just in the first quarter.

Looking at Gasol, with four blocks and the aggressive defense that prompted Alvin Gentry's bitch fit-- even with Kobe leading the team in rebounding, nothing for the Lakers big men to be proud of-- it looks like they got tougher as the game went along.

Still, as Tony Korheiser would say, "Shannon Brown-- Go to your room!"
 
Sounds good to me... It'll be interesting to see if it is backed up.

I miss the 1990s. :(
Another thread made me think of this one... The nearly unanimous opinion speaks to what is wrong with the NBA today, a subject within this thread.



I finally saw this on PTI and they asked whether Tolliver being dunked on should be met with respect or shame...

why the fuck would he even jump?

Thats the REAL question...WTF was he thinking????:smh:

Why wouldn't he jump? That's a little something called DEFENSE!!! I'm sick of seeing uncontested dunks because guys are scared of ending up on highlight reels.

"Why the fuck would he even jump?" I seriously do not understand this mentality. If he was on my team and didn't jump, his ass wouldn't be on my team for long.
 
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