A white womans hair is no better than your NATURAL hair sister

[Cleopatra_J]

I hate weaves on black women because the majority do not emulate the natural look of your hair.
I wish more black women would appreciate the natural characteristics of our hair.
Relaxers, perms, and so forth, I am not that fond of, but it's still your own hair and therefore I tolerate it.
I will not look down on you, but I will, ideally, not look AT you.

So.. when you see a woman with straight hair do you automatically assume its chemically straightened?? Do you automatically assume its a weave??

 

[SEXY_SCORPIO]

I hate weaves on black women because the majority do not emulate the natural look of your hair.
I wish more black women would appreciate the natural characteristics of our hair.
Relaxers, perms, and so forth, I am not that fond of, but it's still your own hair and therefore I tolerate it.
I will not look down on you, but I will, ideally, not look AT you.

And thats your choice, there are plenty of men who will. So one person doesn't stop my shine.

 

[(0_0)..l.. finger]

I posted this in another thread a while ago. So I'm posting it here as I see it is fitting. Let me first say, whatever you do is your business...and it doesn't matter what you think, but that you think, critically and make informed choices. When I was little girl, I didn't even know the texture of my hair, I didn't know what was in relaxers, I didn't know a lot... Just like I didn't know what was in processed food, what ingredients on the back of products meant. But now that I am older I feel that knowing better is doing better...and a lot of us just don't know...so how can we do better? Some of us think we know...so again, how can we do better? This is in no way trying to slight anyone or their choices...

Let me try to explain it this way.... The Shwastica(sp?) the Nazi symbol was used a symbol of hatred.... The White hats that the KKK wear is a symbol or tool used to denote hatred. The confederate flag was used a symbol to represent hate... The use of the word n*gger originated as symbol of hatred.'

Language, flags, behavior can all indicate hate..


Relaxers were originated because people of color were trying to be more right by being more white and assimilate into a culture and society that hated them and told them they were inferior. SO the origins of relaxers are symbol of what it meant to black in America, you are not good enough, inferior, and you need to be more like us.

So mothers and daughters alike (even men, think Malcolm X) took part in what has really become a tradition of relaxing your hair because whites told you it was inferior, not manageable, and therefore not acceptable...

This traditions has been passed along so much that people think they do it because they prefer it, they like it, and it has nothing to do with self-hatred (like enjoying slave food: eating pig intestines, left-over slop, and pork skins, pig feet)..

This is what I mean about the psychological effects of enslavement; it has you thinking that you prefer things, that the result of slavery introduced to your ancestors hundreds of years ago (i.e. the never ending light skinned "preference" debate)...

So just like the NAzi symbol, confederate flags, and use of the word ******, conjure of feelings of hate for a group of people...so does chemically altering the molecular structure of your hair, when it indeed originated from a place of hatred..

So just like if you saw someone with KKK white hat on their head and they told you, it doesn't mean they hate blacks, they just do it cause they like to do it, you would say it was bull shit.. especially if you knew their immediate relatives all took part in this type of hating behavior...

The reason why people don't see relaxing as form of hatred is because they see it as a choice...Just like there is no way to take back the word n*gger and use in it a good way without the feelings of know where and why it was first used emerging, there is no way to take back relaxers and not still think of where it came from...

If someone carried around the confederate flag (a symbol) on their head, would u say it meant nothing? It is not about intent, even if they told you they loved blacks, it is about the symbolism...hence the symbolism of the relaxer...

hmmmmmmmm..... I jump out my sit when I read this, damn IntelligentDyme you're on a different level. I'm still going to keep my thoughts to myself, before I get ban.

 

[SEXY_SCORPIO]

^^Then why come in this thread,say what you have to say.

 

[CT's Finest]

hmmmmmmmm..... I jump out my sit when I read this, damn IntelligentDyme you're on a different level. I'm still going to keep my thoughts to myself, before I get ban.

^^Then why come in this thread,say what you have to say.

I feel what SS is saying. Dude, just state your opinion on the matter. Don't say you can't/won't say it because you might get banned...

 

[Penancestare]

So.. when you see a woman with straight hair do you automatically assume its chemically straightened?? Do you automatically assume its a weave??

nope. However, having three sisters, many aunts, nieces, and female cousins in a very close family, I do have a pretty good eye. Personally, I like afros, lox, the little poofy things, and short hair on women.

 

[JofromthaNO]

nope. However, having three sisters, many aunts, nieces, and female cousins in a very close family, I do have a pretty good eye. Personally, I like afros, lox, the little poofy things, and short hair on women.

I hear you on this, but, being from New Orleans, I know of PLENTY of sisters whose hair is NATURALLY straight and they are African American.

This argument will never subside because, again, it's men often trying to tell women how to care for ourselves. You rarely see a man telling women not to get their nails done, etc. and those same processes often can damage the skin just as much as a relaxer has the potential to do so...

And, again, the hypocrisy of men praising women with long hair and, often times, western features yet asking African American women to "go back to their roots" is ridiculous. How many times on this board have men praised a woman who OBVIOUSLY is wearing a weave, but yet these pleas to African American women are freaking jokes to me...

To top that off, sexy is just sexy... a man would probably care less what a woman's hair looks like as long as, whatever she's rocking, is kept up nicely and she possesses sex appeal and intellect otherwise...this whole argument goes out the window, when it's all said and done...

 

[sean69]

You rarely see a man telling women not to get their nails done, etc. and those same processes often can damage the skin just as much as a relaxer has the potential to do so...

Which highlights the point I was making about logically inconsistent hyperboles and analogies to symbols of hatred.

I wonder if most of these advocates and champions of "natural hair" realize just how synthetic 99.9% of the cosmetics and grooming products they use are.

So if you really wana keep it real, a fig leaf, tree sap, sand and rock salt should suffice for your personal care needs.

 

[Sampson]

I posted this in another thread a while ago. So I'm posting it here as I see it is fitting. Let me first say, whatever you do is your business...and it doesn't matter what you think, but that you think, critically and make informed choices. When I was little girl, I didn't even know the texture of my hair, I didn't know what was in relaxers, I didn't know a lot... Just like I didn't know what was in processed food, what ingredients on the back of products meant. But now that I am older I feel that knowing better is doing better...and a lot of us just don't know...so how can we do better? Some of us think we know...so again, how can we do better? This is in no way trying to slight anyone or their choices...

Let me try to explain it this way.... The Shwastica(sp?) the Nazi symbol was used a symbol of hatred.... The White hats that the KKK wear is a symbol or tool used to denote hatred. The confederate flag was used a symbol to represent hate... The use of the word n*gger originated as symbol of hatred.'

Language, flags, behavior can all indicate hate..


Relaxers were originated because people of color were trying to be more right by being more white and assimilate into a culture and society that hated them and told them they were inferior. SO the origins of relaxers are symbol of what it meant to black in America, you are not good enough, inferior, and you need to be more like us.

So mothers and daughters alike (even men, think Malcolm X) took part in what has really become a tradition of relaxing your hair because whites told you it was inferior, not manageable, and therefore not acceptable...

This traditions has been passed along so much that people think they do it because they prefer it, they like it, and it has nothing to do with self-hatred (like enjoying slave food: eating pig intestines, left-over slop, and pork skins, pig feet)..

This is what I mean about the psychological effects of enslavement; it has you thinking that you prefer things, that the result of slavery introduced to your ancestors hundreds of years ago (i.e. the never ending light skinned "preference" debate)...

So just like the NAzi symbol, confederate flags, and use of the word ******, conjure of feelings of hate for a group of people...so does chemically altering the molecular structure of your hair, when it indeed originated from a place of hatred..

So just like if you saw someone with KKK white hat on their head and they told you, it doesn't mean they hate blacks, they just do it cause they like to do it, you would say it was bull shit.. especially if you knew their immediate relatives all took part in this type of hating behavior...

The reason why people don't see relaxing as form of hatred is because they see it as a choice...Just like there is no way to take back the word n*gger and use in it a good way without the feelings of know where and why it was first used emerging, there is no way to take back relaxers and not still think of where it came from...

If someone carried around the confederate flag (a symbol) on their head, would u say it meant nothing? It is not about intent, even if they told you they loved blacks, it is about the symbolism...hence the symbolism of the relaxer...

This only my third post on SOL, but I had to just give a huge thumbs up to this.

 

[Rick Ronson]

The thread is about self - hatred of ourselves really.. The OP said "even if you don't like dark skin, wide noses and nappy hair" . the OP's should be shot for his backward ass compliment anyway...

"Yes.. I love you woman, even if you don't love yourself for these reasons, so let me go admire these women fake ass breast and asses because they really do love themselves. Oh, and because I'm confident with mine, I rock!! "

STFU!!

He essentially started this thread and now we are talking about natural hair v processed hair -- AGAIN!!

How can you expect people to have self-love when people want to devalue their beauty all the time. Or when a standard of 'beauty' becomes so unrealistic that they feel the only way to achieve it is through alteration of the self? And the ones who decide NOT to subscribe to the idea of "mainstream" beauty are 'haters' and "whack"

annoyed I am

All that defense is not needed.....we're on the same team.

Ive always like dark skin sisters because my moms was.

But being dark its always been a chore to meet darkskinned women

being that im not ugly i assumed it may have been a self hate issue.

If i ever did date a female my complexion i was always curious as
to what the majority of her companions were shade wise..Call it
petty but i make deductions on what kinda person i was dealing
with by that.

Regardless of what i am who i am or how you think i intended this.

Bring your ass on or sit on the sideline perming and weaving....

I didnt call it but it's called for.

Spin it how you like in order to feel comfortable about not changing.

Don't act like my intentions were bad....wrong angle you taking there.

Strength in numbers so there will be ENOUGH weave and perm crowd for years to come I'd imagine.

I hate weaves on black women because the majority do not emulate the natural look of your hair.
I wish more black women would appreciate the natural characteristics of our hair.
Relaxers, perms, and so forth, I am not that fond of, but it's still your own hair and therefore I tolerate it.
I will not look down on you, but I will, ideally, not look AT you.

Yeah thats sad man...it kinda says I hate this shit I was born with so much
that imma disguise it any way i can..imo.....i love all of the women with
perms in my family weave the same.....but admire the ones who don't feel that
they have to follow that...It's a rough transition..

I just made this thread incase its thought that men wouldn't respect your transition.

If a fuck is given about that.

______________

Overall if the media aint gonna shine better light on the darker shades of us
where do the darker skinned ones of us get our moral from.

That paper bag shit was very wicked...that wasnt white people that made that...

it was many black or light skinned black people who were broken that made it up.

 

[Rick Ronson]

I been thinking of cutting my locs....mine is nappy as hell but it is what it is.

Im comfortable with it now....i think....

locs hid my naps so maybe im guilty my damn self.

we were bombarded with shit about our hair and skin in the 70s-80s

it took a toll on may people...I used to brush my hair till my scalp
was sore...not one wave only a stocking cap line in my damn forehead

i went through the s-curl phase but if ur athletic u will be back nappy in days.

this is crazy to have to think about or even be an issue if u look at it.

 

[Cleopatra_J]

All that defense is not needed.....we're on the same team.

Ive always like dark skin sisters because my moms was.

But being dark its always been a chore to meet darkskinned women

being that im ugly i assumed it may have been a self hate issue.

If i ever did date a female my complexion i was always curious as
to what the majority of her companions were shade wise..Call it
petty but i make deductions on what kinda person i was dealing
with by that.

Regardless of what i am who i am or how you think i intended this.

Bring your ass on or sit on the sideline perming and weaving....

I didnt call it but it's called for.

Spin it how you like in order to feel comfortable about not changing.

Don't act like my intentions were bad....wrong angle you taking there.

Strength in numbers so there will be ENOUGH weave and perm crowd for years to come I'd imagine.



Yeah thats sad man...it kinda says I hate this shit I was born with so much
that imma disguise it any way i can..imo.....i love all of the women with
perms in my family weave the same.....but admire the ones who don't feel that
they have to follow that...It's a rough transition..

I just made this thread incase its thought that men wouldn't respect your transition.

If a fuck is given about that.

1. You gave a backwards compliment, admit it.
2. Even if you didn't 'intend' for the discussion to go the way it did, it did. And, I for one, and tired of constantly having the discussion of natural vs. processed hair.
3. You have ASSUMED that I'm NOT natural. You're assuming that because i'm tired of the discussion I am spinning something to defend NOT changing. Newsflash. I don't get perms and I haven't dyed my hair since I was in college. I am natural.

WTF are you talking about? Maybe women don't style their hair according to how men are going to respond, but because of, oh i don't know, manageability?? Why does it matter if a woman is processed or not? Is her hair healthy? Is she happy? How about you judge a person's character and not their hair? Is she LESS of a good woman if her hair is processed??

 

[(0_0)..l.. finger]

^^Then why come in this thread,say what you have to say.

I think women (black women in particular) have a love/hate relationship with their hair because they don't fully understand how to take care of it. African American hair is very unique and presents its own set of problems that unfortunately not many of black women know about. I believe its due to the fact that most black mothers don't past down the teachings of how to take care of ethnic hair because they themsevles had a perm when they was 5-8 yrs old (Thats When the cycle begans).

The hate for our hair comes from slavery. We were told our hair was ugly, even though it's a natural adaptation for living in the hot, African climate. God intended our hair to be like this because nappy, kinky, tightly curled hair lets the heat in while straight hair keeps heat in, which was needed in the cold climates of Europe. To make us feel unattractive and inferior, slave masters attacked every feature we had, especially our hair. But the crazy part of this issue is that, black women features become more accepted and even imitated by popular society when it comes to lip injections, Brazilian Butt lifts, etc.), but our hair has not been accepted by caucasians except for those misguided people who wear dreads that make them look stupid. ....

 

[(0_0)..l.. finger]

I been thinking of cutting my locs....mine is nappy as hell but it is what it is.

Im comfortable with it now....i think....

locs hid my naps so maybe im guilty my damn self.

we were bombarded with shit about our hair and skin in the 70s-80s

it took a toll on may people...I used to brush my hair till my scalp
was sore...not one wave only a stocking cap line in my damn forehead

i went through the s-curl phase but if ur athletic u will be back nappy in days.

this is crazy to have to think about or even be an issue if u look at it.

you think that crazy, check this out
..... I knew the black hair care business was huge, but I had no idea that it was more than the music industry. Considering that African-Americans on make up 12-13% of the population, this figure seems ridiculously excessive. One reason it is so big is that the business has been taken out of our hands. Have you noticed the majority of shops that cater to black women are run by Koreans? They stole the business from under us and we didn't realize it. Koreans control the distribution of almost all black haircare and practically ban blacks from selling the products or making them! If a black company doesn't conform to what the Koreans want, their products are (and I hate this term) blacklisted

 

[(0_0)..l.. finger]

WTF are you talking about? Maybe women don't style their hair according to how men are going to respond, but because of, oh i don't know, manageability?? Why does it matter if a woman is processed or not? Is her hair healthy? Is she happy? How about you judge a person's character and not their hair? Is she LESS of a good woman if her hair is processed??

You're getting a little too emotional because this have nothing to do of what we're talking about...

 

[harlem1nyc]

THey have been brain washed, since MTV! They will not listen

 

[Rick Ronson]

Did Madame C.J.walker really do us a service


i apologize for that dumb shit i typed earlier.

my moms had a jherri fro till she passed in 03

wonderful person much self pride, big heart, many
accomplishments, the nurturing type.

she did have a bad ass fro back in the days though

 

[Rick Ronson]

1. You gave a backwards compliment, admit it.
2. Even if you didn't 'intend' for the discussion to go the way it did, it did. And, I for one, and tired of constantly having the discussion of natural vs. processed hair.
3. You have ASSUMED that I'm NOT natural. You're assuming that because i'm tired of the discussion I am spinning something to defend NOT changing. Newsflash. I don't get perms and I haven't dyed my hair since I was in college. I am natural.

WTF are you talking about? Maybe women don't style their hair according to how men are going to respond, but because of, oh i don't know, manageability?? Why does it matter if a woman is processed or not? Is her hair healthy? Is she happy? How about you judge a person's character and not their hair? Is she LESS of a good woman if her hair is processed??

no it aint healthy and how often do you think hair should be washed
i wasn't trying to bring that into the equation character is all tied in

my mother wouldnt have no long ass white girl weave blonde or braids

you are aware its about love of self..perm may be conventional for black
women at this point....its that silly barbie doll looking shit that hangs
that's over the top...some of course even extreme the shit and go blonde.

its also about dark skinned people male and female that wont date dark skinned
people because of the image they see of themselves and the wanting of the
good ole "good hair" and the broken negreau "brown paper bag syndrome"

not for the regular reasons

its age old shit but.....

my thread is going just as i wanted it to young lady

 

[DeSiRe]

 

[sean69]

All these epistles and diatribes about the symbolism of hate and slave roots of hate in our hair shit is getting real tired and quite frankly pretty damn corny. I'm saying, is this really what's hot in the streets right now? Chris Rock's flick just tipped it over the edge? We on the precipice of some "Code-Red" community crisis?? This is the "holy Grail" in issues facing black in America?


Koreans run the multi billion dollar weave industry! OMG! OMG!! OMFG!!! This is some ground breaking cutting edge shit! This changes everything!


News Flash! >98% of all the income generated by blacks in america - > $600Billion an year - goes back into white owned enterprises anyway. And these numbers are from the mid 90's by the way.

Make up your minds guys. Is it the hate symbolism, aesthetic abuse, chemical abuse, commercial disenfranchisement or skin tone?? (and how da fok did that get into the conversation? )

See, I can respect coming at an issue with a coherent and consistent argument, but when folks go in on some clumsy hypocritical, for lack of a better word, pap ... that shit just calls for a ...

 

[BCAA2009]

As usual, the "cuz I can" and "why you worried about it" excuses which are used like clockwork in the black community has taken foothold here, which is a gotdamn disgrace. Props to Ronson, Finger and ID.

 

[Mr MajestiK]

People need to understand that their choices, believe it or not, aren't a reflection of shunning their black pride or assimilating to the white standard of beauty. Sometimes, you just make decisions because it's what you WANT to do...DAMN!

Do you actually believe what you've typed here?

 

[Rick Ronson]

1. You gave a backwards compliment, admit it.
2. Even if you didn't 'intend' for the discussion to go the way it did, it did. And, I for one, and tired of constantly having the discussion of natural vs. processed hair.
3. You have ASSUMED that I'm NOT natural. You're assuming that because i'm tired of the discussion I am spinning something to defend NOT changing. Newsflash. I don't get perms and I haven't dyed my hair since I was in college. I am natural.

WTF are you talking about? Maybe women don't style their hair according to how men are going to respond, but because of, oh i don't know, manageability?? Why does it matter if a woman is processed or not? Is her hair healthy? Is she happy? How about you judge a person's character and not their hair? Is she LESS of a good woman if her hair is processed??

All these epistles and diatribes about the symbolism of hate and slave roots of hate in our hair shit is getting real tired and quite frankly pretty damn corny. I'm saying, is this really what's hot in the streets right now? Chris Rock's flick just tipped it over the edge? We on the precipice of some "Code-Red" community crisis?? This is the "holy Grail" in issues facing black in America?


Koreans run the multi billion dollar weave industry! OMG! OMG!! OMFG!!! This is some ground breaking cutting edge shit! This changes everything!


News Flash! >98% of all the income generated by blacks in america - > $600Billion an year - goes back into white owned enterprises anyway. And these numbers are from the mid 90's by the way.

Make up your minds guys. Is it the hate symbolism, aesthetic abuse, chemical abuse, commercial disenfranchisement or skin tone?? (and how da fok did that get into the conversation? )

See, I can respect coming at an issue with a coherent and consistent argument, but when folks go in on some clumsy hypocritical, for lack of a better word, pap ... that shit just calls for a ...

i face palm over the fact that you face palmed and rationalized it as a dead horse subject which is basically like sayin black folks are zebras that cant change stripes........basically?...pretty much sums it up?..

niggas aint gonna do shit they haven't already done aint it mane?

shit is what it is hunh man?

these koreans got us hunh man?

we neeeeeeed that shit like crack at this point hunh man?

not giving a fuck and pretending is more comfortable even if you don't grow.

Yet were a race of people that are constantly worried about perception
but the world can understand niggas not liking their hair or skin after all
that happen hunh mane?

African Pride is a fucking hair product hunh man?

Fuck all that ole Malcolm X MLK shit again hunh man?

I feel you mane....i aint gonna get frustrated over your lack of concern either.

Thanks for stopping by mane.

You complacent ass nigga.............jk of course

 

[Cleopatra_J]

You're getting a little too emotional because this have nothing to do of what we're talking about...

I'm not emotional about this.. I said that because RR said

I just made this thread incase its thought that men wouldn't respect your transition.

All i'm saying is maybe.. just maybe... how a woman does her hair has NOTHING to do with a man .. And really, why does it matter to a man about her hair so much??

 

[DarkVoid]

Lets look at this from a different perspective. What if white people and the other races never existed and we were the only humans on this planet, would the so-called black woman chemically straighten there hair or wear a straight weave ?

 

[BCAA2009]

I'm not emotional about this.. I said that because RR said


All i'm saying is maybe.. just maybe... how a woman does her hair has NOTHING to do with a man .. And really, why does it matter to a man about her hair so much??

So this pretty much confirms my speculations for some time now. Women do things (hair,nails,clothing)not for men, but for the adulation and envious glances of OTHER WOMEN.

 

[Rick Ronson]

I'm not emotional about this.. I said that because RR said


All i'm saying is maybe.. just maybe... how a woman does her hair has NOTHING to do with a man .. And really, why does it matter to a man about her hair so much??

cause it's a reflectcion

men let that shit go back in the fucking 60s konk

came back for a short period of time (s-curl)

but its gone for good as far as men.

now what?

Is it that hard...if so ask your damnself why.

 

[SEXY_SCORPIO]

I think women (black women in particular) have a love/hate relationship with their hair because they don't fully understand how to take care of it. African American hair is very unique and presents its own set of problems that unfortunately not many of black women know about. I believe its due to the fact that most black mothers don't past down the teachings of how to take care of ethnic hair because they themsevles had a perm when they was 5-8 yrs old (Thats When the cycle begans).

The hate for our hair comes from slavery. We were told our hair was ugly, even though it's a natural adaptation for living in the hot, African climate. God intended our hair to be like this because nappy, kinky, tightly curled hair lets the heat in while straight hair keeps heat in, which was needed in the cold climates of Europe. To make us feel unattractive and inferior, slave masters attacked every feature we had, especially our hair. But the crazy part of this issue is that, black women features become more accepted and even imitated by popular society when it comes to lip injections, Brazilian Butt lifts, etc.), but our hair has not been accepted by caucasians except for those misguided people who wear dreads that make them look stupid. ....

First, thanks for finally saying what you have to say. I already know the history behind relaxers. I do not hate myself,my hair,my culture. When I relaxed my hair,it was because I wanted to and not because I'm trying to be more white. Also, realize its not all on the mothers, many of the men out here look at the women with the long,pretty,straight hair and make comments about women who go natural.

As usual, the "cuz I can" and "why you worried about it" excuses which are used like clockwork in the black community has taken foothold here, which is a gotdamn disgrace. Props to Ronson, Finger and ID.

Thats not what it is at all. Once again just because you feel like something isn't right you become judgmental to those who feel different. Like I stated before,I am growing my relaxer out,but it doesn't change anything I said before. Its a matter of personal choice.

 

[SEXY_SCORPIO]

So this pretty much confirms my speculations for some time now. Women do things (hair,nails,clothing)not for men, but for the adulation and envious glances of OTHER WOMEN.

I agree with that, how many men do you know care about Coach purses,gucci shoes,etc...

 

[Cleopatra_J]

Lets look at this from a different perspective. What if white people and the other races never existed and we were the only humans on this planet, would the so-called black woman chemically straighten there hair or wear a straight weave ?

Me? Yes. I have naturally curly hair (as seen in my avatar) and in order for it to look cute, i must wash it every day. I live in NJ, its not realistic for me to wash my hair every day and wear it outside. So, in the winter months, I get my hair blown out straight. No chemicals, just roller set and blow dried.

So am I conforming to white expectations of beauty? Or should I continue to wash my hair every morning and get pneumonia to protest?

 

[JofromthaNO]

Do you actually believe what you've typed here?

Dude, there are personal choices I make about my hair and skin care that are a personal preference of mine...

For example, there are certain regimes I change up during different seasons or times in my life because I know how my skin (and hair) react differently to the changes. Also, because I want less upkeep with my hair processes. I usually go without a relaxer during the summertime because the tight curls of new growth hair do well better then than in the winter months. Also, I wore my hair natural, while in graduate school, because I didn't have to deal with so much upkeep and it freed up my time to work and go to school all at once.

It's not all about self-hatred. It's about choice. Black women have the luxury of deciding how they want to style their hair. There are sisters rocking beautiful lace front weaves that I can't even hate on cause they wear it well. I'm proud to have a range of choices, whether "natural," "straightened," "locked," etc.

 

[code_pirahna]

That's real talk

And expensive white designer shit doesn't validate you

I just want yall to know that I love yall even though yall dont like darkskin
nappy hair and wide noses you have to admire a man who hasnt been
made to feel ashamed of his natural self and rolls with confidence.

especially if they made you feel inferior about yours.

100

 

[DeSiRe]

So am I conforming to white expectations of beauty? Or should I continue to wash my hair every morning and get pneumonia to protest?

some of these people arent playing with a full deck...

logic in this argument isnt appreciated

 

[BCAA2009]

I agree with that, how many men do you know care about Coach purses,gucci shoes,etc...

Some men love to see women in heels. But as far as the brand name, color, and all that is what women care more about.

 

[CT's Finest]

I think women (black women in particular) have a love/hate relationship with their hair because they don't fully understand how to take care of it. African American hair is very unique and presents its own set of problems that unfortunately not many of black women know about. I believe its due to the fact that most black mothers don't past down the teachings of how to take care of ethnic hair because they themsevles had a perm when they was 5-8 yrs old (Thats When the cycle begans).

The hate for our hair comes from slavery. We were told our hair was ugly, even though it's a natural adaptation for living in the hot, African climate. God intended our hair to be like this because nappy, kinky, tightly curled hair lets the heat in while straight hair keeps heat in, which was needed in the cold climates of Europe. To make us feel unattractive and inferior, slave masters attacked every feature we had, especially our hair. But the crazy part of this issue is that, black women features become more accepted and even imitated by popular society when it comes to lip injections, Brazilian Butt lifts, etc.), but our hair has not been accepted by caucasians except for those misguided people who wear dreads that make them look stupid. ....

I'm glad you spoke your piece on this brotha. Good points as well...

As usual, the "cuz I can" and "why you worried about it" excuses which are used like clockwork in the black community has taken foothold here, which is a gotdamn disgrace. Props to Ronson, Finger and ID.

Co-sign...