***The OFFICIAL Super Bowl XLIV Discussion Thread (Saints vs. Colts in Miami, FL)***

The next Super Bowl XLIV champion is...

  • The New Orleans Saints

    Votes: 110 62.1%
  • The Indianapolis Colts

    Votes: 50 28.2%
  • I can't call it-- it's gonna be a great game regardless.

    Votes: 17 9.6%

  • Total voters
    177
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Now that Saints won. In hindsight what franchise do you think made the worst decision..

Dolphins for passing on Brees for Dante Culpper (my choice )

Redskins for not hiring Greg Williams as head coach and choosing Jim Zorn.... :smh::smh:

Chargers picking Phillip Rivers over Brees..

Well for one didn't the Dolphins pass up Brees because he was hurt and didn't pass his physical? Two, Greg Williams sucks as a head coach. And 3, Phillip Rivers is a beast.
 
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announcer 1: You know even in defeat Peyton has really won here.
announcer 2: Tell me about it this guy is a football renaissance-man par excellence. He can take a defeat like this and wring some kind of win out of it. :yes:
announcer 1: As I gently cup Manning's nuts in my hands I notice that he seems to hang to the left a little.
announcer 2: The Saints have won Superbowl 44 but God has sent us an angel to walk amongst us on the earth. That angel's name is Peyton Manning. His football IQ is otherwordly.
announcer 1: He knew the Colts would lose and.... you know.... it's probably what he wanted on some level. It's part of his plan.

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Now that Saints won. In hindsight what franchise do you think made the worst decision..

Dolphins for passing on Brees for Dante Culpper (my choice )

Redskins for not hiring Greg Williams as head coach and choosing Jim Zorn.... :smh::smh:

Chargers picking Phillip Rivers over Brees..

shit what about dallas not promoting Sean payton, instead of keeping parcells who clearly had lost his edge and desire to coach at that time (basically over TO, or his words the "player" lol)

id have to say the dolphins though,

they should have done research on Dr Andrews and his track record of success


wow THE SAINTS have won the superbowl

either way gotta love it for the NO, WOW
 
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i was rooting for the saints yall deserved it.:dance::dance::dance::dance:
 
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Good job by New Orleans. Mabye now Tom Benson will shut his damn mouth about moving the team to a bigger city.
 
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Did Choker Manning Return? and More Thoughts on Super Bowl 44
from Robert Littal Presents BlackSportsOnline by Robert Littal

I will never forget it.

An underdog team playing a heavily favored team in Super Bowl. The favorite had a quarterback in his prime that everyone was saying he had the opportunity to be the best ever. The quarterback had already won one Super Bowl and a 2nd Super Bowl would put him in the Montana discussion.

As the game played out it was very competitive, but the underdog pulled ahead late by seven points. Everyone thought the “Prime” quarterback would lead his team to a tying touchdown, but a funny thing happened, he didn’t and the underdog won a Super Bowl that they seemed “destine” to win.

The date January 25th 1998.

The “Prime” Quarterback was Brett Favre and the underdog team was the Denver Broncos.

Favre ended up breaking a lot of records, but he never have been back to the Super Bowl and honestly it is the only reason that many don’t consider him the greatest of all time.

Fast forward twelve years and Peyton Manning had his chance.

His chance to be on that Montana level, to do what his main rival Tom Brady has done time and time again in the Super Bowls.

It was right in front of him and he failed.

For full disclosure Reggie Wayne could have ran his route better, but no excuses Manning threw a ball he shouldn’t.

Many years ago I coined a phrased:

“Choker Manning”

Because up to 2006 he had never won a championship on any level. In the biggest games of his career up to that point he played his worst games.

The Quarterback position is about not just producing in the regular season, but performing in the playoffs. Manning finally won his ring, but as we chronicled in the “5 Reasons Super Bowl Prediction” he didn’t have that defining moment.

He had that moment staring at him in the face and he blinked. Legendary quarterbacks simply can not blink and throughout his career Manning has blinked a lot.

He is now 9-9 in the playoffs and 1-1 in Super Bowls.

Brett Favre the man who Peyton Manning will one day pass in the record books is 12-10 in the playoffs and 1-1 in Super Bowls.

Peyton Manning is a first ballot Hall of Famer just like Favre, but right now he isn’t on the Mount Rushmore of Greatest Quarterbacks of all time.

Peyton Manning is one of the best of all time, but will never be considered “THE BEST” until he has that defining moment and wins multiple Super Bowls. He has every skill you would in a quarterback except that skill you can’t define.

Montana had it.

Brady had it.

Bradshaw had it.

When the lights were the brightest they played their best.

The good news for Manning is he has many years to redeem himself, it is hard to make it to the Super Bowl just ask Favre.

Someone should ask Brett if he would trade some yards, some games played, some TDs to have a chance to repeat that final drive against the Broncos twelve years ago.

I know he would.

Hopefully twelve years from now when Manning is nearing the end of his career he isn’t wondering the same thing.

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More Super Bowl Thoughts:

1- The Football Gods always favor the Bold.

It has been my overwhelming theme for the entire NFL Season and today was the perfect example of how that philosophy works.

The Saints have 4th and goal from the 2 down 10-3. It would be easy to kick a FG here, but Sean Payton leaves his team out and:

FAILS!!!!

But sometimes it isn’t about succeeding, it is about instilling confidence in your team and the Saints D responded to that with a quick three and out that allowed them to get an end of the half field goal. That field goal gave the Saints momentum.

Sean Payton then proceeds with the call of the year in my opinion. Knowing that it was likely that Peyton Manning would kill that momentum by getting the ball back to start 2nd half calls for the onside kick.

*Side Note*

{All you commentators acting like Sean Payton onside kick was so great, you are hypocrites if you didn’t have that same philosophy all year. From day 1 of the season I preached playing “bold”, don’t jump on bandwagon now.}

From that point on the Saints were the aggressor and the Colts were on their heels. In the biggest game of the year Sean Payton played to win and not to lose.

The Football Gods are pleased.

2- Live by the Cover 2 die by the Cover 2

The Saints ran over eighty offensive plays in the Super Bowl and the Colts never adjusted defensively. They ran the base Cover 2 the entire game. Even when it became obvious the Saints were willing to dink and dunk there way down the field they did nothing to change up.

I understand that the Colts aren’t the most creative on the defensive side of the ball, but Drew Brees isn’t Joe Flacco or Mark Sanchez. You give Brees the same look on every down he is going to destroy your defense and that is what he did.

That is a coaching fail on the Colts part.

3- Greg Williams threw the kitchen sink at Peyton Manning and Manning flinched

4-3, Cover 2, 5-2, 4-4, Press Man to Man, 8 man zones, 3 man rush, 10 men at line of scrimmage, overload blitzes, zone blitzes, safety blitzes and that aforementioned kitchen sink.

If there was a defensive coverage available Williams and the Saints D used it and they held the Colts to seven points in the last three quarters and made the play the won the Super Bowl.

Must respect to Williams who coached the game of his life.



Great Super Bowl and the best team won without question. Congratulations to the Saints and the whole “Who Dat” nation.

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/i...ng-return-and-more-thoughts-on-super-bowl-44/
 
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:lol::lol::lol::lol:
TONY DUNGY



:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: WTF was he thinking! A blowout!:lol::lol::lol: I am glad the Saints won, got tired of hearing about how great Peyton Manning is and how he is the best QB ever, GTFO here with that bullshit!
 
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Seems like ESPN is putting all the blame on
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Saying stuff like he got the noodle arms, just gave up in the 4th quarter to on that last touchdown pass that he closed his eyes scared of the hit
 
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Seems like ESPN is putting all the blame on
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Saying stuff like he got the noodle arms, just gave up in the 4th quarter to on that last touchdown pass that he closed his eyes scared of the hit

He did fuck up the route by not cutting back but they said earlier Reggie got hurt on Friday.

History won't remember Reggie.

They will remember Peyton.
 
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Seems like ESPN is putting all the blame on
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Saying stuff like he got the noodle arms, just gave up in the 4th quarter to on that last touchdown pass that he closed his eyes scared of the hit

He did fuck up the route by not cutting back on the interception but they said earlier Reggie got hurt on Friday and he should have caught ball at the end. No excuse for that. Wayne doesn't deserve all the blame, neither does Peyton.

History won't remember Reggie.

They will remember Peyton.
 
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He did fuck up the route by not cutting back on the interception but they said earlier Reggie got hurt on Friday and he should have caught ball at the end. No excuse for that.

History won't remember Reggie.

They will remember Peyton.

I don't buy that history won't remember crap... not in our modern era of 24 hours news cycles and the ease of access to all forms of media. this isn't like the Bill Buckner play of '86 where the previous plays were ignored-- people will remember that it was Reggie Wayne who fucked up that route b/c we all saw it on TV.
 
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Voo Dat: A Southern Conjurer Explains How the Saints Were Helped by Voodoo
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The Indianapolis Colts were favored to win yesterdays Super Bowl everywhere from Vegas to the White House. But one woman wasn't buying it: Lisa Johnson has enough experience with voodoo to know that the Saints were unbeatable.

Johnson is a for-hire expert in all your voodoo needs. She considers herself a messenger with a touch of medicine woman, and she's been advising and protecting NFL players for years. Her grandfather was a full-on voodoo priest, and her older brother is the NFL single-season yardage record-holder Eric Dickerson. ("Eric Dickerson wore 29," she explained to us. "9 + 2 is 11. Eric was born on 9/2." 11 again. Lisa's birthday: 11/11.)

Johnson told us her grandfather would "drink potions and "concoct stuff" to protect Dickerson, explaining his exceptional rookie season, and she's used her knowledge of voodoo to help members of the Indianapolis Colts, including Joseph Addai and Marshall Faulk, for years.

Read the rest
http://gawker.com/5466748/voo-dat-a-southern-conjurer-explains-how-the-saints-were-helped-by-voodoo
 
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I don't buy that history won't remember crap... not in our modern era of 24 hours news cycles and the ease of access to all forms of media. this isn't like the Bill Buckner play of '86 where the previous plays were ignored-- people will remember that it was Reggie Wayne who fucked up that route b/c we all saw it on TV.

Bill Buckner is remembered because it was in Boston and their history of not winning a World Series in so long. 20 years from now will Bill Buckner even be relevant now that Boston won the two World Series.

Tom Brady is remembered as the qb who won three superbowls even though Adam Vinatieri hit field goals in two of the games at the end for the win.

If Manning doesn't win another Superbowl he'll go down as winning one and throwing an interception in the other to lose.
 
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:smh: @ that sign, tho. stupid CAC.
 
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Super Bowl XLIV: Where are they now?
By DJ Gallo
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=gallo/100208&sportCat=nfl

The New Orleans Saints are Super Bowl champions. It was a storybook ending to a storybook season.

NFL Hangover

The stuff of Hollywood. A movie.

But what happened to all the characters in "Super Bowl XLIV: The Movie" after it ended? Here's your postscript.

Jeremy Shockey: Shockey used his winning catch in the Super Bowl as the inspiration for a tattoo on his bare left arm. The tattoo depicts him pointing and laughing at Tiki Barber.

Reggie Bush: Bush married his girlfriend, Kim Kardashian. They live in the same house he had in college. After a few more years in the NFL, he left football, and now is employed as a famous person.

Tracy Porter: Porter continued to intercept heroic quarterbacks at the end of big games. He picked off Tom Brady at the end of Super Bowl XLV, Tony Romo at the end of the 2011 NFC Championship Game and Tim Tebow's only NFL pass. The football media eventually put a hit out on him.

Tim Tebow: After his Super Bowl XLIV commercial aired, Tebow continued his career as a commercial actor and football player. Proving doubters wrong, he ended his career with only one fewer Super Bowl title than quarterbacking legend Peyton Manning.

Peyton Manning: Manning worked with his father, Archie, to push for an NFL rule change that would require Rex Grossman to be the opposing quarterback in any Super Bowl that Manning reached.

Pierre Garçon: Despite a big drop in the Big Game, Garçon went on to a legendary career in the NFL. He was inducted into Canton in 2024 and a year later saw the cedilla added to U.S. keyboards.

Jim Caldwell: Caldwell was sent back to its manufacturer for new software to enable risky calls. Caldwell 2.0 ran smoothly at first but was destroyed after bugs appeared and it called for an onside kick in the 2010 AFC Championship Game when the Colts had a second-and-goal from the 2.

Tony Dungy: Dungy vowed never to say anything interesting again. He succeeded.

Garrett Hartley: For his flawless Super Bowl performance, Hartley became a hero to small, weak children. Kids around the country went to the barber and demanded a "Hartley" to look like their hero and because the high levels of hair gel hold up to swirlies.

Matt Stover: Stover returned for one more season with the Colts and did not miss any kicks in 2010 because he never attempted one longer than his age.

Sean Payton: Payton was offered a $100 million contract from his former employer, the Dallas Cowboys. He responded "Geaux #%&* yourselves."

Reggie Wayne: Wayne's role in Peyton Manning's loss-clinching interception left him angry and bitter. He began hanging out with former teammate Marvin Harrison.

Dwight Freeney: After his ankle let him down in the second half of the Super Bowl, Freeney broke up with it. Today they share visitation rights with his foot.

Charles Barkley: Barkley ate the Taco Bell diet girl.

Curtis Painter: Painter lost his job in the NFL. He was last seen wearing an ironic "Without me, you would have been 18-1" T-shirt.

Drew Brees: Brees became an NFL star and earned the respect of the football media, who now regard him as the second-greatest quarterback in Saints history behind Archie Manning.

Mark Brunell: Brunell retired on top as a Super Bowl-champion quarterback.

Archie Manning: Manning consoled his son, Peyton, in the postgame locker room. He then jumped on a flight to New Orleans with his son Cooper to party it up.

Eli Manning: A disappointed Eli Manning locked himself in his room and didn't come out for three days until he ran out of animal crackers.

The Who: All the members of The Who sadly passed away soon after their Super Bowl XLIV performance. However, the NFL still booked them for several halftime shows after that, and critics said the deceased performances were "just as rockin' as their Super Bowl XLIV show."

Tom Benson: The Saints' 83-year-old owner was booked for the Super Bowl XLV halftime show.

Roll credits.
 
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and ya'll thought ya'll wasnt gone hear from me lol
 
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Peyton Manning: Yep, Still A Choker



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Before the Super Bowl, two versions of this post were already written. One where Peyton Manning becomes the greatest quarterback ever and one where he comes up just short. I didn't expect to write one where he crashes and burns.


I got called names last year for saying that Peyton Manning was a choker after he lost a game where he never got to touch the ball in overtime. This time, it was his comeback-killing interception sealed the Saints' Super Bowl victory. Is it fair that one errant pass—on a route the receiver probably botched—should determine a player's legacy? No, of course not. But sports are not fair. There can be no doubt that if his team had won last night, Manning would have received all of the credit and no one would have objected.


But that does that make him a total failure? After all, you can't blow a big game without being good enough to put yourself in a position to blow it. Most NFL quarterbacks will never even see nine playoffs games; forget about screwing them up. But the truth is that Manning has indeed lost the same number of playoff games that he's won. (He needs two wins this year just to get back to .500.) Even the greatest of the greats don't win them all, but we're talking Buffalo Bills/Atlanta Braves territory here. Nothing against Bobby Cox, but egghead authors aren't exactly lining up to write books about his genius.


Peyton Manning is a phenomenal quarterback. His mastery of signal-calling and his understanding of the mathematics of football is unrivaled. Replace him with Curtis Painter and the Colts are lucky to win three games this year. After surrendering a ten-point lead in the Super Bowl, he calmly marched his team down the field and took it back. He played a great game last night. But in the biggest possible moment he made the worst possible mistake. Like it or not, that's choking. It's not the first time it's happened and it may not be the last. One Super Bowl win is great, but it doesn't mean those nine losses didn't happen.


Yesterday was a reminder that Peyton Manning, as great as he is, still doesn't quite belong in that truly elite category of winners. Maybe he's more like ... gasp ... Brett Favre. An insanely talented playmaker whose greatest strength—his willingness to place his team's entire fortunes on his throwing shoulder—is also his greatest weakness. Because you cannot win a Super Bowl that way. You can't win it by yourself.
Manning has tried desperately to raise everyone else on the Colts to his level—and done a pretty decent job, actually. But in the end, they all choke together. Again.
http://deadspin.com/5466601/peyton-...d&utm_campaign=Feed:+deadspin/full+(Deadspin)


Saints trash Peyton Manning's legacy [Jason Whitlock]
Another disappointment for Peyton [Joe Posnanski]
Lone fourth-quarter turnover haunts Peyton Manning after loss [USA Today]
Manning beats an unhappy, hasty retreat [FoxNews]
Poll: Is Peyton Manning's legacy tarnished if he doesn't win another Super Bowl?
 
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Super Bowl dethrones 'M*A*S*H,' sets all-time record!

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UPDATED: Super Bowl XLIV is the most-watched TV program in U.S. history.

Sunday's big game set a new all-time ratings high, overthrowing the 27-year-old record held by the final episode of "M*A*S*H."

The New Orleans Saints vs. Indianapolis Colts showdown drew 106.5 million viewers, smashing Super Bowl records and edging out 1983's "M*A*S*H" finale, which garnered 105.97 million viewers.

Viewership was up 8% from 2009's Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Arizona Cardinals nail-biter, which was seen by a then-record 98.7 million viewers.

“With all the memorable story lines going into Super Bowl XLIV combined with the awesome power of the NFL, we are thrilled with this rating, and I am extremely proud of the way the entire CBS Television Network produced, sold and promoted the most-watched television show in history,” said Sean McManus, president, CBS News and Sports.

The premiere of CBS' latest reality show "Undecover Boss" (THR review here) also scored for the network, drawing 38.6 million viewers -- the biggest post-Bowl entertainment audience since CBS aired the second season premiere of "Survivor" after the Bowl in 2001.

Super Bowl XLIV is the first sports program to ever domestically crack 100 million viewers. Though there were fewer television sets when "M*A*S*H" aired, viewership is also much more segmented today. Most broadcast shows struggle to pull ratings that were commonplace just a few years ago.

"It is not surprising that the Super Bowl broke viewing records," said Bill Carroll, vp director of programming at Katz TV Group. "When you have a once-a-year event, particularly suited to HD, with little to no competition on broadcast or cable, while in this economy mostly watched from home, with a blizzard on the East Coast, it would be more surprising if the game did not set a record."

The Super Bowl also generated massive exposure for CBS' roster of programming, which was promoted heavily during the telecast.

The game capped a hugely successful season for the NFL, which has managed to rise in recent years even as most programs have become fractionalized and declined.

"The NFL is the perfect television property," McManus said. "The rest keeps getting fractionalized and the NFL keeps getting more appealing to viewers. It's hard to explain the phenomena. But based on the kind of numbers all the broadcast partners have achieved with football this year, nothing would surprise me next year."

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http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/02/super-bowl-xliv-ratings-.html
 
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WHO DAT?
WHO DAT?

WHO DAT?
 
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A retro you never know
Bill Simmons, ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100208&sportCat=nfl

I have a lot of regrets. The Peyton Manning Face made a dramatic, improbable comeback in Miami on Sunday night. I could have been there. Could have seen it. Could have marveled at its return. And yet, I didn't stay for the game. Couldn't do it. Couldn't be surrounded by happy Colts fans. Couldn't deal with the reality of Kobe, A-Rod and Manning winning titles in succession. I fled Miami on Sunday morning. Quickly. Briskly. Hell, I didn't even plan on writing a running diary of the Pierre Bowl. Why commemorate Manning's coronation as ... (gulp) ... the greatest quarterback of his generation? I forgot about three words: You never know. They are the best three words in sports.

Now it's Monday and I still can't figure out how the Colts -- the best team in the NFL, a juggernaut that was controlling the game until Pierre Garcon's deadly third-down drop midway through the second quarter, followed by a bizarre seven-minute Saints drive, a Colts goal-line stand, a three-and-out and a sneaky Saints field goal to close the half -- ended up self-destructing in the second half. So let's run it back. Retro diary. You and me. We'll even time-stamp it like it's happening live.

Colts 10, Saints 6. Third quarter, 15 minutes remaining. Saints kicking off. Jim Nantz and Phil Simms announcing.

8:20 ET: And ... whoa!!!!!!!! Allow me a couple of notes on the best surprise onside kick ever (and the first successful one to come before the fourth quarter in a Super Bowl). First, any time you can involve a reality star's husband in a momentum-turning moment (in this case, Hank Baskett), you have to do it. Second, that had to be the most exciting moment in the history of the XFL camera (those cameras that drop onto the field behind the players, which remains Vince McMahon's most underrated contribution to society). Third, it's funny that Sean Payton was praised effusively after the game for two decisions that were basically foiled -- a fourth-and-goal run that got stuffed (but inadvertently prevented Peyton Manning from unleashing a two-minute drive and DID lead to a New Orleans field goal), and a surprise onside kick that didn't surprise Baskett at all (only he reacted like one of the bomb detonation guys from "Hurt Locker"). And fourth, didn't you suddenly think the Saints would win after they recovered that kick?

8:25: Four quick completions for New Orleans; Dwight Freeney getting his ankle taped on the sidelines; Peyton Manning sitting glumly on the bench. You can feel it.

8:27: Thomas breaks an unassuming screen pass 16 yards for a touchdown. Saints: Up three with their first Super Bowl lead ever. Brees: 5-for-5 on the drive. Colts: have run three plays in the past 62 minutes of real time. America: relatively startled.

(Although, to this point, it was only the second most startling moment of the night. The first? Letterman bringing in Leno for a CBS ad. What was Letterman thinking? Why make Leno seem likable for the first time in a year? And how could he sit on the same sofa with that big-chinned, opportunistic, double-talking, job-stealing barracuda after Leno made that nasty joke about his marriage a few weeks ago? The VP of Common Sense did not agree with this decision.)

8:28: Put it this way: If there was a Hollywood version of the Mitchell report, they'd have to spend a chapter investigating Jake Gyllenhaal as the "Prince of Persia."

8:28: Mortal lock after every successful onside kick: The front wave of return guys, after getting chewed out by their special teams coach for five minutes, waiting until the ball is over their heads before they run back on the next one. I always enjoy that. By the way, Solomon Wilcots just reported that the White House is labeling The Who's halftime performance as an act of terrorism on American soil.

8:34: Manning keeps a six-play, no-huddle drive going by dropping a gorgeous third-down pass between about 15 Saints to Dallas Clark for 20 yards (first down, Saints 20). At this point, I had swung back into, "I'm over the onside kick momentum, there's no way Manning is losing this game" mode.

(Important note: Readers were congratulating me last night on my successful reverse jinx of Manning in Friday's column. Trust me ... that was no reverse jinx. I believed everything that I wrote. Although if it worked out that way, I'm delighted!)

8:38: On the heels of another third-down throw to Clark, Addai charges in for a 4-yard rushing touchdown (10 plays, 76 yards, 5:26 drive), followed by a shot of the Manning family's luxury box and Archie sitting sadly before realizing, "Oh, crap, there are cameras on me, I can't root for the Saints!" and belatedly applauding. That was fun. Did we ever figure out why Eli Manning always dresses like a 13-year-old rich kid attending his first wedding? I'm not wearing a tie! No! And I want to wear that light sports jacket with the green pants. I don't care if it doesn't match! That's what I want to wear!

8:39: I gotta be honest ... I wasn't ready to see the Griswolds reunited for a homeaway.com commercial. Any time you're destroying icons from my childhood, I need a warning or a heads-up. Anything. Come on.

8:46: Brees to Devery Henderson for 12. Another first down. That reminds me, I had a chapter in my book about the 33 Greatest What Ifs in NBA history. After last night, isn't "What if the 2006 Dolphins had pursued Brees instead of stupidly going after Daunte Culpepper?" undeniably the best football "What If?" of this decade? If Miami gets Brees, the Saints don't win Super Bowl 44; Nick Saban doesn't flee Miami as quickly as he did, or at the very least, doesn't go to Alabama (now we're swinging this year's NCAA title as well); the AFC would have the four best QBs (Brees, Rivers, Brady and Manning); Miami's future is obviously altered; and the Saints are almost definitely playing in San Antonio right now. Good golly.

8:49: Garrett Hartley crushes a 47-yarder. Good. Colts 17, Saints 16. You know it's been a bad year for field goal kicking when it seemed legitimately surprising every time someone made a long one. He's made three from 40-plus already and is reaching, "OK, let's see him pee in a cup" territory. FYI: Here's the point of the game where I became excited that my "Colts 31, Saints 23" prediction had a legitimate chance. Just let me enjoy this for an extra second. (Pause.) Thank you.

8:50: Still disappointed that "Greg Oden's penis" didn't make the Google search ad.

8:52: Underrated moment: Chad Simpson fielding the Saints kickoff 4 yards deep in the end zone, then getting tackled at the 11. Indy's special teams murdered them this game.

8:56: The first noticeable sign that Manning might be rattled: He hits Austin Collie with a first-down pass at the Indy 29, then loses track of time and can't get off another play before the end of the third quarter. I remember thinking, "Hmmmm ..." at the time. Although I had no idea we were in Manning Face range. God, this is fun to rewatch. It almost makes up for having to spend the last three months watching Rasheed Wallace. Almost.

8:57: This can only be one place. The Masters. On CBS. Huge. Quickly.

8:59: Idea for a "SportsCenter" game show segment: Show contestants various pictures of Jim Caldwell during Super Bowl 44, then ask them to guess the quarter and the score. I think this would be riveting.

Contestant: "Um, I'm gonna say that's his reaction in the first quarter, right after Garcon caught his touchdown pass."

Host: "No! I'm sorry, that was his reaction after Manning threw his interception touchdown."

9:00: Manning hits Garcon for a first down to the Colts' 46. Remember that crappy kickoff return? They should be over midfield right now. Three plays later, Manning hits Wayne on a crucial fourth-and-2 pass from the Saints' 46 -- first down, 32-yard line. That's a 57-yard drive and they aren't even in field goal range yet. Special teams, special teams, special teams.

9:05: The crucial series of the game: Addai for 2 yards, Collie for minus-3 on a receiver screen, Manning misses Collie deep down the middle. Fourth-and-11 from the 34. (You might remember the 2007 Pats facing a similar predicament in Super Bowl 42: An eight-minute drive to start the second half that ended when they foolishly went for it on fourth-and-13 from New York's 31. Incomplete pass to Gaffney. Momentum shift. Sadly, I didn't have to look this up.) Caldwell's avatar calls for a 51-yard field goal. Hooks left. Saints ball on the 41. Momentum shift.

Now ...

We saw two situations last night that drive me crazy when they are mismanaged. The first was New Orleans going for it on fourth-and-goal in the first half. I believe you go for it every time. By settling for three points, you're giving up 20-30 yards of field position. If you score a touchdown, it's a huge boost for your team. If you don't get it, the other team is trapped down there and you're probably getting the ball back at midfield, anyway. It perplexes me when teams kick in that spot. Same for screwing up those fourth-and-longs from the 30-35-yard range -- if you don't have a kicker who can definitely make it, pin them inside the 10 with a punt. The three points aren't worth the possibility of NOT making it. Right?

9:08: Reggie Bush starts the Saints' drive by barreling over midfield to the Indy 47, inching us a little closer to the incredible scenario of two Kardashian sisters shaking Obama's hand in a six-month span. (How much more fun would that have been if Clinton was still president?) They're already over midfield. Like you, I started calculating the "OK, so they'll score a touchdown, miss the two-point to only lead by five, then Manning will charge down the field and win it but not cover" sequence.

(Confession time: Before the game, I did a six-point teaser in which I teased the Colts to +1.5 and the under to 63.5. At halftime, concerned about the pro-Saints crowd -- and knowing the under was a lock -- I hedged by taking the Saints +0.5 in the second half. So basically, if the Colts won by four or less, I won both bets. So Colts 24, Saints 22 was my dream scenario at this specific point of the game. You know, if gambling were legal.)

9:12: Six straight completions for Brees. First down at the Indy 5. Combining his 2008 season (second-most passing yards ever) with this season (winning a Super Bowl, outplaying Warner, Favre and Manning in the playoffs) and his Super Bowl performance (32-of-39, 288 yards, no picks, no fumbles, complete control), as well as what he means to his team and his city, I guess the biggest shocker coming out of Super Bowl 44 is that Drew Brees is clearly the best quarterback alive right now. By any calculation. I had a different answer for that question as recently as 24 hours ago. Gotta love sports.

9:13: Thomas runs to Indy's 2, followed by a sideline shot of Manning sitting on the bench and looking like someone sitting on an airplane who is going to start peeing on himself if he doesn't go in the next two minutes, only the flight attendant won't let him get up yet.

(Good God, that's the Manning Face's music! I thought you were dead!)

9:14: Touchdown, Shockey. During my bachelor party, we rode an elevator to the Palms' rooftop nightclub in 2003 with him and his female, um, companion. My No. 1 troublemaking friend was in there with us, Cousin Sal. The elevator started going up and we all waited for Sal to do something. Finally, he screamed out, "Shock-ehhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!" like a Giants fan would. Shockey laughed. A few seconds passed. Sal did it again. Now Shockey was half-dying for the elevator to get to the top, only he was definitely a little banged up and enjoying the comedy. Sal did it four or five more times. We were rolling. Then the doors opened and Shockey wobbled out with a smile on his face as Sal belted out one last time, "Shock-ehhhhhhhhhh!"

The point is this: If you had offered me a "What's more likely, Shockey making a game-winning catch in a Super Bowl or joining the 'Surreal Life' some day?" wager, I would have gone heavy on the "Surreal Life." I mean, HEAVY.

9:18: They're showing replays of Lance Moore's 2-point conversion. I've seen this rule called both ways and there's no rhyme or reason to it -- sometimes they give it to the receiver, sometimes they play the "no, he didn't keep possession for long enough when he hit the ground" card. It really depends on the game and which team the NFL wants to win. You can't tell me differently.

9:19: Saints 24, Colts 17. Not only is the Manning Face cooking with gas right now, but the Saints coaching staff just broke the Super Bowl record for "most swinging fist pumps." It's almost like they took a class to perfect them.

9:21: Let's be honest: The Denny's free Grand Slam sounds fantastic until you're actually eating it. It's like getting a free Thai massage or a free DVD of "John From Cincinnati."

9:23: First down from the 30 ... false start, Colts. I should mention that, at this specific point, I didn't even care about losing my bets. I wanted an epic Colts collapse for the same reason Colts fans (and really, everyone else) rooted for the epic Pats collapse two years ago. Throw in what that game meant to the city of New Orleans and some things just trump gambling.

9:24: After the 17-yard pass to Garcon for a first down, Manning nearly gets picked by Malcolm Jenkins on an awful throw to Wayne. Hmmmm. Meanwhile, Simms tells us that New Orleans went into the game with three defensive game plans -- one for the first half, one for the third quarter, and one for the fourth -- reminding us once again that we're headed for a giant scandal some day when an NFL announcer with a gambling problem uses covert inside info from the coach's meetings for his own benefits. It will happen in our lifetime.

9:25: Two straight first-down throws. Suddenly we're on the Saints' 36. I remember thinking, "Great, they'll tie it, then whichever teams wins the coin toss will march down and score, and we'll have to hear about how to fix overtime for the next nine months. Shoot me."

(FYI: I know how to fix it. Win the toss and score a touchdown, game over. Make a field goal on the opening drive and the opponent gets one possession of its own. From there, sudden death rules. Find a hole in that idea. You can't.)

9:25: Manning to Wayne (lined up on the left) on a quick slant for 5. Tackled by Tracy Porter. Hold this thought.

9:26: Manning misses Collie over the middle and gets popped. Third down and 5. Timeout for an injured Saint. 3:24 to go. Everything is about to change.

9:29: Nantz: "Picked off! Look out ... and it's Tracy Porter taking it all the way! Touchdown, New Orleans!"

YOU NEVER KNOW

How unlikely was Manning's interception?

According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Manning hadn't thrown a fourth-quarter interception on a potential game-tying or go-ahead drive with the Colts trailing in his previous 33 games (30 in the regular season and three playoff games). Manning's statistics under those circumstances during that time (regular- and postseason combined): 60-for-106 (57 percent), 878 yards, 7 TDs, 0 INTs (105.8 passer rating).

You're not going to believe this, but I have a couple of thoughts ...

1. The Colts ran the exact same play from two plays before, only with Collie in motion behind Wayne so it looked slightly different. Porter sniffed it out like a basset hound.

2. Manning. Face.

3. A long interception touchdown in a big moment is the single most exciting play to see in person at a football game, narrowly edging a touchdown bomb, a punt return TD and any time JaMarcus Russell tries to complete a pass longer than 3 yards. You can see the guy break better in person, and if the crowd is leaning towards that team anyway, the fans (usually dead, with only two exceptions this past decade: Rams-Pats and Giants-Pats) make a noise that they just don't make for any other play. At Super Bowl 36, Ty Law's pick of Kurt Warner in the second quarter played out the same way -- brief glimpse of the future, can he get it ... yes!, and then the guy flying the other way. Magnificent to watch. Anyone who cares about sports needs to be in the building for one of those just once.

4. The fact that Manning got blocked from behind while trying to make the tackle will always be the elephant in the room of Super Bowl 44. I'm sorry. The play was so freaking exciting that I didn't even notice it the first 45 times I watched it. Same for the refs, probably. But a clip is a clip.

5. I thought Simms and Nantz were fine. I like them. But Manning's pass was so horrendous at such a huge moment that NOT calling him out for it just seemed strange. He had a chance to be immortal if the Colts won that game; instead, troublemakers like me get to make Manning Face jokes and point out that Manning lost seven career playoff games that were up for grabs in the fourth quarter. In fact:

Montana, playoffs: 16-7
Brady, playoffs: 14-4
Elway, playoffs: 14-8
Favre, playoffs: 13-11
Warner, playoffs: 9-4
Manning, playoffs: 9-9
Roethlisberger, playoffs: 8-2

So it was a classic "Sliding Doors" moment: If Manning comes through and Indy prevails, his résumé becomes impenetrable. But that pass prevented it from happening, and also, it might be the worst pass ever thrown by a great quarterback in a big modern moment not named "Favre." (Seriously, can you think of another one?) It's the distant cousin of Brady two Februarys ago: If the Giants don't score on the Tyree drive, Brady wins his fourth Super Bowl, clinches a 19-0 season and becomes immortal. Everything changed for him during that drive, and now, who knows? Same for Manning.

Anyway, you know what happened the rest of the way: The Colts drove down one more time and stalled inside the 5; we saw a few more Manning Faces; Sean Payton got doused with Gatorade and unleashed a few more swinging fist pumps; the game went under; Jim Caldwell blinked once; everyone who bet on Brees for Super Bowl MVP (3 to 1) over the Saints money line (+180) high-fived themselves; and best of all, something good happened for the city of New Orleans. I wish I could have been there to see it. Alas.

Some farewell thoughts from the readers that trickled into my mailbox over the past 24 hours ...

Amazing. In the space of three minutes, Audi made all environmentalists look like fascists, Phil Simms encourages the Saints not to blitz while they blitz and pick Manning off, Manning subsequently makes a classic Manning face, and the Vegas casinos get torched on the line and all the defensive TD props. Only in America.
-- Julian, San Francisco

Simmons, you ignored your own rule. Saints owner Tom Benson donated a ton of money to a Nashville convent last year and the nuns have been praying for the Saints all year. You cannot bet against God and puppies.
-- Jason, Naples, Fla.

Watching the end of the third quarter, I knew the game was over right then. Manning had no idea the game clock was about to run out and he looked lost. Would the new Manning do this? No, but the pre-2007 Manning definitely would. He looked rattled.
-- Brandon, Sandy Springs

I now await the Colts attempting to ban the onsides kick in the next competition committee meeting.
-- Mike, Alexandria, Va.

So I was thinking that the people of New Orleans owe some amount of thanks to Ashton Kutcher for their Super Bowl victory. Prior to being punked, Frankie Muniz was a spoiled little rich kid. The world got to watch Malcolm cry when he believed that his car was stolen. But he went on to grow a pair of stones, take over the head coaching position for the Saints, and ultimately make one of the ballsiest calls in Super Bowl history.
-- Matt, Irvine, Calif.

Do people realize that if Reche Caldwell could catch, Peyton Manning would still be without a Super Bowl ring?
-- Pierre Palo, Ames, Iowa

I guess you could say the loss must be killing Caldwell, but he's already dead. I am convinced that this loss was all about karma. Caldwell's decision to mail it in against the Jets in the regular season was the equivalent of the F-U wins by the patriots. Football gods punish!
-- Brett, Philadelphia

I'd sure like to know if somewhere there was a "Meaningful Game" record for a team that we could see. Including playoffs, games for home field, etc. I bet the Colts are about 6-30. Better yet, don't find this out. Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison are like guys who are only funny around ugly girls, who then get introduced to the pretty girls and then have panic attacks. I'm sleeping outside tonight in a snow drift. Bury me in my Drew Brees Purdue jersey. Serve lots of beer at the wake.
-- JDT, Indianapolis

I would argue that this Super Bowl is a honorary Level 1 loss. You have one of the greatest QBs of all time at the top of his game. Clutch all year with multiple comebacks. Thinking you are sitting on gold. And you lose. Not because the other team made an amazing play. Not because another Colt fumbled the game away. But because the face of your franchise, the guy you assume can carry your team through anything. One of the last true "field generals" just threw the game away at the most crucial point. It even has a catchy name: "The Interception" or "The INT" or "The Pick."
-- Daniel, Berrien Springs, Mich.

Peyton Manning and Bobby Cox are both considered great, especially during the regular season, but both of them are completely incapable of realizing the game isn't going their way, adjusting the game plan, and executing. In my opinion, that is the mark of a champion and a great player. Minus Dave Justice and a city known for choking worse than the Braves, my city would still be without a championship, ever. Minus a mediocre Bears team, so would Peyton Manning.
-- Kyle, Atlanta

Was it me, or did Betty White give more effort in that Snickers commercial then Peyton did on that interception return? Good golly, he got pushed down like Abe Vigoda! And I think it was the corpse of Bea Arthur that shoved him down! Meannnnnnwhile, he was pointing over to someone (ref, teammate, etc.) AND THE FACE RETURNED! HE NEVER REMOVED HIS HELMET AND THE FACE RETURNED! YES!
-- Rick B., Chesapeake, Va.

To me the turning point in the game was Caldwell trotting out a geriatric kicker to try a 500-yard field goal. The miss gave the Saints great field position, which they used to march down the field (get it? Saints, marching … never mind) and score the winning TD. This same scenario was the turning point in the Colts' win over the Jets in the AFC Championship Game a mere two weeks ago. How could Caldwell possibly forget that?
-- Reid, Indianapolis

I thought I'd gotten over the whole Brees/Culpepper fiasco. But now Brees has a ring that he won on our home turf, Saban went undefeated after snaking us … give me a reason why I shouldn't jump off the Biscayne bridge.
-- Rick, Miami

I have been a Colts fan for a long time (since we sucked back in the early '90s) and I must say I have never been this angry at team management in my life. At least we could have tried for 18-1 instead of going 16-3 and having the exact same prize (nothing) to show for it. If we go on an extended championship drought, I will always point back to this year and curse the name of Bill Polian for resting our starters.
-- Howard, Dubuque, Iowa

I'm sitting in my bed having just returned from the French Quarter, where I watched the Saints win the Super Bowl. I can't stop crying. And like, I know I'm a chick, but this is a different kind of tears altogether. Is this love?
-- Stephanie, New Orleans

I love the Colts. I love The Who. I became an atheist after last night. Thanks for listening.
-- Dominic Eiser, Wichita, Kan.
 
Re: ***The OFFICIAL Super Bowl XLIV Discussion Thread (Saints vs. Colts in Miami, FL)

Liftoff!

 
Re: ***The OFFICIAL Super Bowl XLIV Discussion Thread (Saints vs. Colts in Miami, FL)

It was all written, baby.


 
Re: ***The OFFICIAL Super Bowl XLIV Discussion Thread (Saints vs. Colts in Miami, FL)

The Madden Sim Bags Its Sixth Victory in Seven Years


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For the sixth time in seven years - and the first time picking an underdog - EA Sports' Madden Simulation has correctly predicted the Super Bowl winner. But it's not as simple, or as complicated, as one might think.


It's a no-frills simulation, said Anthony Stevenson, senior product manager on the Madden NFL team. This year it was done on an Xbox 360; they loaded the latest roster update and depth chart, booted up a game with ranked-match parameters (basically, All-Pro difficulty) started it, then ran the game from kickoff to final gun in the Super Sim menu, which takes 23 seconds. (I timed it.) Last week, the Madden Sim spit out New Orleans as a 35-31 winner. In reality, the Saints won 31-17.


That's all there is to it. It's commercial code and currently available DLC. No tweaked gameplay sliders, no custom rosters or depth charts, no taking averages off of 100 simulations, no secret sauce. It's something you can run at home yourself with your copy of the game.

http://kotaku.com/5467200/the-madden-sim-bags-its-sixth-victory-in-seven-years
 
Re: ***The OFFICIAL Super Bowl XLIV Discussion Thread (Saints vs. Colts in Miami, FL)

Colts already favored to win next year's Super Bowl

One bad pass by Peyton Manning hasn't cost the Indianapolis Colts any cachet.

Manning and the Colts are favored to win next year's Super Bowl, according to odds released Monday by BetUS.com.

Indianapolis is a 7-1 favorite to take home the NFL championship, followed by the San Diego Chargers (8-1), New Orleans Saints (9-1) and the New England Patriots (10-1).

The St. Louis Rams, coming off a 1-15 season, are the longest shot on the board at 150-1.

The Colts were 5-point favorites in the Super Bowl on Sunday, but Drew Brees and the Saints rallied for a 31-17 victory. New Orleans sealed the upset when Tracy Porter intercepted Manning's pass and returned it for a touchdown late in the fourth quarter.

Indianapolis is 3-1 to get back to the Super Bowl, while New Orleans is 5-1.
 
Re: ***The OFFICIAL Super Bowl XLIV Discussion Thread (Saints vs. Colts in Miami, FL)

What I wanna know is why are people still voting in the poll?
 
Re: ***The OFFICIAL Super Bowl XLIV Discussion Thread (Saints vs. Colts in Miami, FL)

NFL Newtwork is showing the replay right now
 
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