The Official 2010 Denver Broncos Thread

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2010 BRONCOS DRAFT CHOICES

Round 1, Pick 22 (22) (from N.E.) - WR Demaryius Thomas, Georgia Tech
Round 1, Pick 25 (25) (from Balt.) - QB Tim Tebow, Florida
Round 2, Pick 13 (45) - OL Zane Beadles, Utah
Round 3, Pick 17 (80) - C J.D. Walton, Baylor
Round 3, Pick 23 (87) (from Phil.) - WR Eric Decker, Minnesota
Round 5, Pick 6 (137) (from Cle. through Phil.) - CB Perrish Cox, Oklahoma State
Round 6, Pick 14 (183) - OL Eric Olsen, Notre Dame
Round 7, Pick 18 (225) (from Pit. through TB) - CB Syd'Quan Thompson, Cal
Round 7, Pick 25 (232) (from Bal. through TB) - LB Jammie Kirlew, Indiana


2010 PRESEASON SCHEDULE (Home games in caps)
DAY DATE OPPONENT SITE TIME/RES. TV/REC.
Sun. Aug.15 at Cincinnati Paul Brown Stadium 7:00 PM EDT KCNC-TV (CBS4)
Sat. Aug.21 VS. DETROIT INVESCO Field at Mile High 7:00 PM MDT KCNC-TV (CBS4)
Sun. Aug.29 VS. PITTSBURGH INVESCO Field at Mile High 6:00 PM MDT FOX
Thu. Sep. 2 at Minnesota Mall of America Field (Metrodome) 7:00 PM CDT KCNC-TV (CBS4)


2010 REGULAR SEASON SCHEDULE (Home games in caps)
WEEK DAY DATE OPPONENT SITE TIME/RESULT TV/REC
1 Sun Sep.12 at Jacksonville Jacksonville Municipal Stadium 1:00 PM EDT CBS
2 Sun Sep.19 VS. SEATTLE INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:05 PM MDT FOX
3 Sun Sep.26 VS. INDIANAPOLIS INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 PM MDT CBS
4 Sun Oct. 3 at Tennessee LP Field 12:00 PM CDT CBS
5 Sun Oct.10 at Baltimore M&T Bank Stadium 1:00 PM EDT CBS
6 Sun Oct.17 VS. NEW YORK INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:05 PM MDT CBS
7 Sun Oct.24 VS. OAKLAND INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 PM MDT CBS
8 Sun Oct.31 at San Francisco Wembley Stadium (London) 5:00 PM GMT CBS
9 BYE WEEK
10 Sun Nov.14 VS. KANSAS CITY INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:05 PM MST CBS
11 Mon Nov.22 at San Diego Qualcomm Stadium 5:30 PM PST ESPN
12 Sun Nov.28 VS. ST. LOUIS INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 PM MST FOX
13 Sun Dec. 5 at Kansas City Arrowhead Stadium 12:00 PM CST CBS
14 Sun Dec.12 at Arizona University of Phoenix Stadium 2:15 PM MST CBS
15 Sun Dec.19 at Oakland Oakland Coliseum 1:15 PM PST CBS
16 Sun Dec.26 VS. HOUSTON INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:05 PM MST CBS
17 Sun Jan. 2 VS. SAN DIEGO INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 PM MST CBS



ALL EYES ON TEBOW, WHO CALLS HIS FIRST BRONCOS MINICAMP GREAT
Associated Press
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ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- Tim Tebow is accustomed to living under the media microscope. Now, his every move on the football field is being scrutinized by the Denver Broncos.

A team videographer was at Tebow's feet Friday when the quarterback took snaps and threw passes as the three-day minicamp for rookies got under way.

"Oh, it's great because we can go back and watch it," the ever-excitable Tebow said following the 90-minute workout on a chilly morning. "We can look at every play, every throw, go back and see what I did good, what I did bad, what I have to work on and what I need to change."

Arguably the most intriguing pro prospect since Michael Vick, Tebow has plenty of work ahead of him.

Some scouts believe it could take two years for Tebow to make the transition from combination college quarterback to prototypical pocket passer -- if he ever does. Others argue his success in college, his passion for football and his work ethic will make the transition smoother and shorter.

Broncos coach Josh McDaniels, who made waves when he traded three draft picks to the Baltimore Ravens to take Tebow with the 25th selection in last week's NFL draft, said it's unrealistic to put a timetable on the quarterback's transition.

McDaniels has dismissed the notion of moving Tebow to H-back to start his pro career. And with Kyle Orton, Brady Quinn and maybe even Tom Brandstater ahead of Tebow on the depth chart, many expect the former University of Florida star's contributions as a rookie will come in Wildcat formations.

Although Tebow is a Heisman Trophy winner and a two-time BCS national champion whom some call the greatest college player ever, he is an NFL enigma because of his not-ready-for-primetime throwing mechanics and footwork and the spread offense he ran out of the shotgun with the Gators.

So, Tebow donned a No. 15 Broncos jersey Friday and hit the field at Dove Valley for the first time to begin his NFL education.

With the offense in white on the south end of the field and the defense in blue at the north end, all eyes were on Tebow in the middle.

During the 25-minute period in which more than 50 reporters, photographers and cameramen were allowed to observe, Tebow ran agility drills, then threw several passes under the watchful eyes of McDaniels and his younger brother, Ben McDaniels, who is Denver's new quarterbacks coach.

Both had plenty of advice for Tebow.

"It was just everything from the plays to footwork to getting my body in position to throw and just different things like that," Tebow said. "All football, all the time, and I love it. It's great."

Deploying his new and improved throwing motion that removes the looping windup he had at Florida, the southpaw's throws were tight and compact.

Tebow's mechanics and throwing motion were dissected ad nauseam in the weeks leading up to the draft, and he insisted he embraced the critiques and criticism. He began correcting his sidearm throwing motion weeks ago. Now, he must adjust to taking snaps under center and dropping back while dodging the pass rush after operating almost exclusively out of the shotgun in college.

Tebow wouldn't pinpoint a priority.

"Just improving, getting better on everything, I mean the footwork, the drops, the cadences, identifying the right (reads), going through the protections, everything like that has been what I've been working on," Tebow said. "I can't just narrow it down. I got too many things I'm working on right now."

That's why Tebow didn't really take a moment to soak it all in when he hit the field for the first time with six other draft choices, 19 college free agents and two wide receivers trying out with the Broncos.

"Not at that time. I thought, 'I got a lot to go do and I got to go improve,'" Tebow said. "So, it's not time to daydream right now."

Tebow said he wasn't overwhelmed by the daunting challenges ahead.

"Oh, I'm just excited. It's not really pressure," he said. "I just go out here and play football. I'm loving doing it. I'm learning a great offense from great coaches, just trying to soak it all in every chance I get, and I'm having a great time with it."

Although he's in terrific shape, Tebow found out firsthand what it's like to train at altitude.

"I had been working really hard so I felt like I was in decent shape," Tebow said. "But I can definitely feel a difference. ... You just can't get as much air."

Tebow also called the chilly weather "a great change of pace."

The Broncos drafted two wide receivers -- Demaryius Thomas from Georgia Tech in the first round and Eric Decker out of Minnesota in the third -- but both were on the sideline Friday because they're still recuperating from foot operations.

Two undrafted wide receivers, Dicky Lyons of Kentucky and Rockeed McCarter from James Madison, were in for tryouts and caught passes from Tebow.


TEBOW'S NO. 15 BRONCOS JERSEY LEADS NFL SHOP SALES FOR APRIL
Associated Press

NEW YORK -- Rookie quarterback Tim Tebow already leads the NFL in one category: jersey sales.

Tebow's No. 15 Denver Broncos jersey was by far the most popular on NFLShop.com for April. His celebrity clearly trumps the debate over whether he'll ever make it as an NFL quarterback after winning the Heisman Trophy and two BCS national championships at Florida.

Tebow is, at best, third on the Broncos' depth chart at quarterback. But the 25th pick of the first round in last month's draft still had the best-selling rookie jersey since the NFL started keeping track in 2006. Thirty percent of the orders came from Florida.

The Broncos were tops in the league in merchandise sales on NFLShop.com in April after ranking 10th for the year ending March 31 -- and without any other Denver player's jersey in the top 25.

The draft's top pick, St. Louis Rams quarterback Sam Bradford, was at No. 9, behind not just Tebow but the second selection, defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh. The new Detroit Lion, who ranked eighth, is the only lineman in the top 25.

The No. 2 seller in April is the jersey of an old quarterback on a new team: Donovan McNabb of the Washington Redskins. McNabb's Eagles jersey wasn't even in the top 25 for last year, trailing even teammate Michael Vick.

The trade to Washington has sparked not just interest in McNabb but in his replacement in Philadelphia, Kevin Kolb. Ready to make his debut as a full-time starter, Kolb was No. 12 in the April rankings.

Just as eye-catching is the drop in jersey sales for a quarterback who has been in the news for very different reasons: Ben Roethlisberger. The Pittsburgh Steelers star, a longtime mainstay among the league's most popular jerseys, ranked 11th for the year.

Roethlisberger is nowhere to be seen in the top 25 for April, a month when he was suspended without pay for six games for violating the NFL's personal-conduct policy. Prosecutors decided not to charge Roethlisberger in a case involving a 20-year-old college student who accused the quarterback of sexually assaulting her in a Milledgeville, Ga., nightclub.

LaDainian Tomlinson's move from the San Diego Chargers to the New York Jets boosted sales of his jerseys. He ranked 16th last year, but he shot up to sixth for April.

The rest of the top 10 for April includes many of the usual suspects: New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees, Indianapolis Colts quarterback Peyton Manning, Minnesota Vikings quarterback Brett Favre, Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo and Steelers safety Troy Polamalu.


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RAVENS LB LEWIS SHOCKED BY HELP GIVEN TO TEBOW
By Mike Florio

We've previously pointed out that Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow could spark contempt and resentment in an NFL locker room. Recent comments from Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis hone in on one of the specific potential sources for the hard feelings players may have for Tebow.

That Tebow is somehow better or more worthy than the rest of them.

Asked by ESPN Radio's Colin Cowherd whether Lewis was shocked by the media attention on the Tebow story prior to the draft, Lewis said (via NFL.com), "The thing I was more shocked by is you see all the people who were willing to help him. I don't know many people who were willing to help other athletes like that. Jon Gruden loved him to death. You see all these people who took out their personal time to really work with him and make this big issue, big issue, big issue. I don't know why he was any different than anyone else. Every young child has that dream, that same dream that Tebow had. So I don't know why he was bigger . . . than any of the other guys.

"He went to a big program, and, yes, he might be a favorable person, but nobody else in the league, definitely not veteran players, see themselves differently than any other player."

Though Lewis stopped short of saying that this will make Tebow a target of opposing defenders (the Broncos play at Baltimore on October 10), Tebow's bigger concern should be ironing out any hard feelings that may arise in his own locker room, where others may not be thrilled by the budding love affair between Tebow and the fan base and/or Tebow and the head coach, who proclaimed this week that Tebow has the "it" factor.

Again, it all comes down to how Tebow handles himself. And though others might see Tebow "differently than any other player," we don't believe Tebow carries himself in a way that suggests that he sees himself differently. And we think that if Tebow handles himself the way he always has, he'll win his teammates over and, in time, his foes.

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UNDERSTANDING JOSH MCDANIELS: THERE IS A METHOD TO HIS MADNESS
Bleacher Report
By Kevin Roberts

It's interesting how the NFL works, isn't it?

The Denver Broncos fire long-time NFL coach Mike Shanahan, and in enters this punk-spawn from the Bill Belichick tree, with a chip on his shoulder and a head the size of Mount Everest.

Josh McDaniels wasted no time shaking things up in Denver, immediately trying to "upgrade" over Pro Bowl quarterback Jay Cutler by attempting to trade for a one-year wonder in Matt Cassel.

His attempt failed, he had a falling out with Cutler, and the Broncos waved bye-bye to their golden boy.

Then came the brush with star diva receiver Brandon Marshall. We heard about the injuries, treatment from both sides, and contract issues.

Then Marshall played up to his potential (per usual), helped the Broncos to a 6-0 start, and everything was forgotten. Of course, only until Denver began a disturbing slide, stumbled into Week 17 at 8-7, and did so without a benched Brandon Marshall.

Fast forward to a few weeks ago. The now heavily criticized McDaniels finally pulls the trigger on a trade, sending Marshall to Miami for two second-round picks, and then follows that by getting rid of his offense's last problem child (all of Denver hopes), while getting a fifth-round pick in return.

There's a pattern here, folks. McDaniels enters, Cutler leaves. Then Marshall. Then Scheffler. And on a much lighter note, so too did Peyton Hillis.

The question now is, were these guys really the problem, or was McDaniels just letting his ego getting in the way? Well, it is professional football, so there's no disputing his ego has to play into what went on to some degree, but if you look closely, there is a developing pattern.

And this pattern is weaving a design that will soon form into a winning foundation.

Josh McDaniels isn't producing some cookie-cutter Bill Belichick feast. He's dining with his own dish, his chosen utensils, and he's selectively picking his dinner guests.

He showed this when he brought in the aging, but still wily veteran safety, Brian Dawkins. He showed it even more by giving some lesser-known defenders a chance to prove themselves.

And then he took that next big step: the risk of having your entire fanbase disown you.

He traded away his elite, cocky starting quarterback. He ridded of a young, superstar wide receiver, and he tossed away another young, playmaking tight end.

But then McDaniels made a move that very few of us saw coming. He traded up, and drafted Florida's Tim Tebow .

And, while it's true we won't know what becomes of this for quite some time, it was still all kinds of magical.

Let's think about this for a moment.

All of McDaniels' moves and decisions got us to this point. It's like he knew from the start. And it's almost sad, and rather embarrassing, that we're just now starting to see it come to fruition.

McDaniels unloaded the guys with the big contracts, the guys who balled over their small contracts, and anyone who wasn't content enough with their role on the Denver Broncos.

And it led to the consummate team player. It brought McDaniels and the Broncos to Tebow, a guy with the world's largest chip on his shoulder, a guy who (there is no doubt in my mind) will work harder than anyone else in the league and a guy who will become a good starting quarterback.

Tebow doesn't have to be the starter in year one, because Tebow knows what a team is. He'll run the tough yards, play a little H-back and tight end, and he'll help Denver put together some Wildcat packages. After all, whatever the team needs, that comes first.

McDaniels is turning out to be a big, sappy softy. He's not an egomaniac. Of course, that clearly all depends on your perception of what he's doing and what your own interpretation of what an egomaniac is.

But he's a guy who believes in the system. He believes a philosophy is bigger than talent. He knows that the team is more important than any one individual player.

And by trading up to draft Tebow with the 25th selection in the first round of the 2010 NFL Draft , he showed (through sacrificing elite assets) that a player like Tebow, one who represented exactly what his entire team needs and should strive to be, was more important than paying a big name receiver, dealing with a pouty star quarterback, or catering to the desires of a pompous tight end.

Josh McDaniels is doing it his way, and damn me if I'm wrong, but I finally am buying into it.
 
I say Broncos go 7-10.

Well, let's see.

1 Sun Sep.12 at Jacksonville Jacksonville Municipal Stadium 1:00 PM EDT CBS WIN

2 Sun Sep.19 VS. SEATTLE INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:05 PM MDT FOX WIN

3 Sun Sep.26 VS. INDIANAPOLIS INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 PM MDT CBS LOSS

4 Sun Oct. 3 at Tennessee LP Field 12:00 PM CDT CBS WIN

5 Sun Oct.10 at Baltimore M&T Bank Stadium 1:00 PM EDT CBS LOSS

6 Sun Oct.17 VS. NEW YORK INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:05 PM MDT CBS WIN

7 Sun Oct.24 VS. OAKLAND INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 PM MDT CBS WIN

8 Sun Oct.31 at San Francisco Wembley Stadium (London) 5:00 PM GMT CBS LOSS

9 BYE WEEK

10 Sun Nov.14 VS. KANSAS CITY INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:05 PM MST CBS WIN

11 Mon Nov.22 at San Diego Qualcomm Stadium 5:30 PM PST ESPN LOSS

12 Sun Nov.28 VS. ST. LOUIS INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 PM MST FOX WIN

13 Sun Dec. 5 at Kansas City Arrowhead Stadium 12:00 PM CST CBS LOSS

14 Sun Dec.12 at Arizona University of Phoenix Stadium 2:15 PM MST CBS WIN

15 Sun Dec.19 at Oakland Oakland Coliseum 1:15 PM PST CBS WIN

16 Sun Dec.26 VS. HOUSTON INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:05 PM MST CBS WIN

17 Sun Jan. 2 VS. SAN DIEGO INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 PM MST CBS WIN


So I see 11 wins with that schedule at worst 9-7.
 
Tebow will get his "welcome to the NFL hit" then get back up and the next play throw a TD pass. Dude weighs 245; he's built to take the hits.
:lol::lol:you must be a white punk ass boy so this goes out to you and tebow and the dog his mama has sex with FUCK YOU!!!!!
 
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Those the best hoes yall got?

Even your cheerleaders are wack....


Oh year, 6-10 new coach in the offseason.
 
No, I meant you will GET a new coach in the offseason, McDaniels out by end of the year.

Josh gets 3-4 years to make the Broncos into Superbowl contenders. He's not going anywhere anytime soon. Even Shanahan went 8-8 in his first season with the Broncos.
 
I dont want to see 20+ screen passes in one fuckin game this year.....:hmm:

:lol: You'll still see the screens as that's apart of the system, but you'll also see more medium to deep passing. They drafted a speed demon in Thomas and will move Royal to the slot at some point. This kid they drafted Eric Decker could be the next Ed McCaffery. Dude catches everything in sight and is a good route runner. Finally, with Quinn and Tebow on his ass, Orton will have to perform like never before to save his job. This training camp and preseason will be real interesting.
 
I dont understand why a coach draft a quarterback,trade for one when the starter this past year did pretty good.....I mean we was ahead in the Redskins game but lost due to the fact we had a shitty backup then the following week you start the backup against your division rival but bring in the starting quarterback when we was behind in the game....


McDummy makes the dumbest decisions I mean if Orton was good enough to play against the Chargers why not let him finish the Redskins game when we had all the momentum on our side in that game....On top of that get rid of the Defensive coordinator just because he wanted to blitz alittle more sumthing that was working at the beginning of the season....Dude acts like he won sumthing when he hasnt :smh::smh::smh::smh:
 
Wow, I really don't understand the Tebow hate but each's own I guess.

I have legitimate Tebow hate, so I can tell you the truth about this...

Most Tebow hate ain't Tebow hate. Most "Tebow hate" is just mockery of "Tebow love" which is waaaaay out of hand. It's beyond Brett Favre, and the kid has proven nothing.

I'm not saying Tebow has no shot, I'm saying he has less chance than practically any first round QB in recent history due to 1. His lack of NFL style game and 2. His running style, which is to bowl over defenders. That's what the non-hating detractors point out, to the chagrin of the Tebowites.

But it's the hater in me that says his "great character" is more about perspective... He's a religious zealot, but if you're Christian, conservative, not paying attention, he just sounds like a "great kid".

The hater in me points out that this "great kid" also taunts incessantly. And I don't usually pull THIS card, but if he'd been a brother who pumps the crowd up after every first down, and gator chomped in opponent's faces...

The hater in me says that all this talk about a "winner" forgets that he cries like a wittle girl when he loses a game. The hater says this dude is mentally unstable, considering how he reacts to adversity by screaming and crying with not an ounce of pride or tact.
 
I dont understand why a coach draft a quarterback,trade for one when the starter this past year did pretty good.....

You do it for competition purposes and more importantly to maintain a high level of play. Orton knows with Quinn and Tebow breathing down his neck that he can't afford for his performance to slack off. He's got to work that much harder to keep his job.

I mean we was ahead in the Redskins game but lost due to the fact we had a shitty backup

That's the good thing about getting Quinn and Tebow. If Orton gets hurt we have more talented QB's to fall back on and not shitty ass Chris Simms.

then the following week you start the backup against your division rival but bring in the starting quarterback when we was behind in the game....

I honestly don't believe McDaniels knew Chris Simms was going to be that bad. That's the risk you take with backups. McDaniels most likely said fuck it I wanted to give Orton another week to heal up but Simms is fucking up so bad I might as well put Orton in there because a 80% Orton is better than a 100% Simms.


McDummy makes the dumbest decisions I mean if Orton was good enough to play against the Chargers why not let him finish the Redskins game when we had all the momentum on our side in that game....

See above

On top of that get rid of the Defensive coordinator just because he wanted to blitz alittle more sumthing that was working at the beginning of the season.

Nolan blitzed the same amount of times late in the season when we went 2-8 as he did when we went 6-0. The difference is our D-line got wore out late in the season and we could no longer STOP THE RUN so when that happens you get gashed by the run on blitzes. McDaniels wanted Nolan to tone down the blitzes because the D-line couldn't stop the run. On top of all of that, teams were starting to pick up all those exotic blitzes the Broncos ran earlier in the season. It was becoming harder and harder to get to the Quarterback which is a direct reality of not stopping the run. In the offseason we signed Justin Bannan, Jarvis Green, and Jamal Williams. It will be hard to run on us next season.

...Dude acts like he won sumthing when he hasnt :smh::smh::smh::smh:

Dude was involved and played a huge role in the New England Patriots winning three Superbowls; that shit wasn't all Bill Belichick. He's confident because he has won something and soon he will do it as a head coach.
 
He was saying that you will get a new coach in the offseason, and McDaniels will be fired. I think he'll last one more year before being fired.

He's going nowhere anytime soon. Broncos will make the playoffs next season and the "fired talk" will come to a end.
 
I have legitimate Tebow hate, so I can tell you the truth about this...

Most Tebow hate ain't Tebow hate. Most "Tebow hate" is just mockery of "Tebow love" which is waaaaay out of hand. It's beyond Brett Favre, and the kid has proven nothing.

He gets the love because....

1. He's the most successful college quarterback to ever play the game.

2. He's a extremely high character guy. Anybody that has met the guy can't say one bad thing about him. Since he's so passionate and nice I can see how the media would get behind the guy.


I'm not saying Tebow has no shot, I'm saying he has less chance than practically any first round QB in recent history due to 1. His lack of NFL style game

Until you actually play in the NFL, you haven't played a NFL style game no matter what you do in college. That's goes for ANY Qb coming out of college. Tebow has the same chance to be successful as Sam Bradford; most likely even a better chance considering him working with a QB guru in McDaniels.

2. His running style, which is to bowl over defenders. That's what the non-hating detractors point out, to the chagrin of the Tebowites.

McDaniels already stated that Tebow will trained in the same way Tom Brady, Matt Cassell, Kyle Orton and any other QB under his tutelage will be trained and that's a pocket passer. If the pocket breaks down and he needs to scramble fine but he will be a pocket passer first, runner second.

But it's the hater in me that says his "great character" is more about perspective... He's a religious zealot, but if you're Christian, conservative, not paying attention, he just sounds like a "great kid".

As long as Tebow is not trying to jam his religious beliefs down your throat I don't see what the problem is.

The hater in me points out that this "great kid" also taunts incessantly. And I don't usually pull THIS card, but if he'd been a brother who pumps the crowd up after every first down, and gator chomped in opponent's faces...

Is it taunting or being passionate about the game? The kid is out there having fun and it wouldn't be any different if a brother was doing it or whomever. That's apart of the game I which the NFL wouldn't take out.

The hater in me says that all this talk about a "winner" forgets that he cries like a wittle girl when he loses a game. The hater says this dude is mentally unstable, considering how he reacts to adversity by screaming and crying with not an ounce of pride or tact.

So Tim Tebow is the ONLY player in football to cry after losing a game? C'mon bruh, certainly you can do better than that.
 
Well, let's see.

1 Sun Sep.12 at Jacksonville Jacksonville Municipal Stadium 1:00 PM EDT CBS WIN

2 Sun Sep.19 VS. SEATTLE INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:05 PM MDT FOX WIN

3 Sun Sep.26 VS. INDIANAPOLIS INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 PM MDT CBS LOSS

4 Sun Oct. 3 at Tennessee LP Field 12:00 PM CDT CBS WIN

5 Sun Oct.10 at Baltimore M&T Bank Stadium 1:00 PM EDT CBS LOSS

6 Sun Oct.17 VS. NEW YORK INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:05 PM MDT CBS WIN

7 Sun Oct.24 VS. OAKLAND INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 PM MDT CBS WIN

8 Sun Oct.31 at San Francisco Wembley Stadium (London) 5:00 PM GMT CBS LOSS

9 BYE WEEK

10 Sun Nov.14 VS. KANSAS CITY INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:05 PM MST CBS WIN

11 Mon Nov.22 at San Diego Qualcomm Stadium 5:30 PM PST ESPN LOSS

12 Sun Nov.28 VS. ST. LOUIS INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 PM MST FOX WIN

13 Sun Dec. 5 at Kansas City Arrowhead Stadium 12:00 PM CST CBS LOSS

14 Sun Dec.12 at Arizona University of Phoenix Stadium 2:15 PM MST CBS WIN

15 Sun Dec.19 at Oakland Oakland Coliseum 1:15 PM PST CBS WIN

16 Sun Dec.26 VS. HOUSTON INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:05 PM MST CBS WIN

17 Sun Jan. 2 VS. SAN DIEGO INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 PM MST CBS WIN


So I see 11 wins with that schedule at worst 9-7.

Dawg are u serious about this schedule? Where u getting all these wins from? from what offense? and what defense? come on dawg! From 8-8 lost Brandon Marshall and nolan and your going to win 3 more games?
 
I have legitimate Tebow hate, so I can tell you the truth about this...

Most Tebow hate ain't Tebow hate. Most "Tebow hate" is just mockery of "Tebow love" which is waaaaay out of hand. It's beyond Brett Favre, and the kid has proven nothing.

I'm not saying Tebow has no shot, I'm saying he has less chance than practically any first round QB in recent history due to 1. His lack of NFL style game and 2. His running style, which is to bowl over defenders. That's what the non-hating detractors point out, to the chagrin of the Tebowites.

But it's the hater in me that says his "great character" is more about perspective... He's a religious zealot, but if you're Christian, conservative, not paying attention, he just sounds like a "great kid".

The hater in me points out that this "great kid" also taunts incessantly. And I don't usually pull THIS card, but if he'd been a brother who pumps the crowd up after every first down, and gator chomped in opponent's faces...

The hater in me says that all this talk about a "winner" forgets that he cries like a wittle girl when he loses a game. The hater says this dude is mentally unstable, considering how he reacts to adversity by screaming and crying with not an ounce of pride or tact.


he tries this at the NFL level, unless its a CB and he might leave on a stretcher.
 
Dawg are u serious about this schedule? Where u getting all these wins from? from what offense? and what defense? come on dawg! From 8-8 lost Brandon Marshall and nolan and your going to win 3 more games?

1. Our O-line will be improved because we got bigger upfront at the guard and center positions. This translates to converting all those 3rd and shorts we couldn't make last season. This also lends to a better overall power running game which is the direction McDaniels wants to go in. With Moreno in his second season along with a healthy Buckhalter we should have a solid running attack.

2. The D-line is improved with the additions of Justin Bannan, Jarvis Green, and Jamal Williams. We'll do a better job stopping the run, which was a major problem for us late last season.

3. Orton will be in his second season in the system competing with Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow breathing down his back to take his spot. Orton had a career year last season in this system and should be even more productive with a year under his belt.

4. People overrate Brandon Marshall's role in this offensive system. Sure, Marshall made some incredible plays, but in this system it's more about the sum of the parts rather than any one individual. Tom Brady won three Superbowls with avearge receivers before Randy Moss and Wes Welker came to New England. Was it all because Tom Brady is so great? No, he had a system that put average players in the best possible positions to win. Does Orton's success in this system live and die on Brandon Marshall being apart of it? Hell, no because "the system" trumps all. McDaniels wants smart high character guys who may or may not have as talented skill sets than the next player but are willing to follow the system to a T in a effort to generate the best possible results.

5. Losing Nolan was actually addition by subtraction. Nolan blitzed way too much. I understand blitzing when you can stop the run with your D-line, but once the D-line lost all ability to stop the run, Nolan would just dail up more blitzes which led to the defense getting torched even more by the run. I'm really sold on Don Martindale (new Defensive Coordinator). This dude is going to be the next Rex Ryan; I firmly believe that.

6. The schedule is easier this season. We had a brutal schedule last season and still managed to go 8-8. With a easier scheudle I can see better results.
 
We need to sweep Oakland and Kansas City and split the games against San Diego to win the division.......I hate the fact we blow out Oakland and Kansas City in the first game and yet get our asses kicked in the second game.....:hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:
 
We need to sweep Oakland and Kansas City and split the games against San Diego to win the division.......I hate the fact we blow out Oakland and Kansas City in the first game and yet get our asses kicked in the second game.....:hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:

We may sweep Oakland but I don't see us sweeping the Chiefs. It's hard to win in Arrowhead in December no matter how shitty the Chiefs are.
 
^^^^^ either way I'll be watching..if you don't mind tell me more about the "beast" does he have any vertical threat ability?..we lost Tedd "jet killer" ginn, he was basically all we had as a vertical threat! and also does Marshall's presence open it up for the #2 receiver..in denver's case E.Royal i believe!
 
^^^^^ either way I'll be watching..if you don't mind tell me more about the "beast" does he have any vertical threat ability?..we lost Tedd "jet killer" ginn, he was basically all we had as a vertical threat!

Marshall is not a vertical threat, but more of a possession receiver with an uncanny ability to break and dodge tackles. He can take a 5 yard pass and turn it into 15 which is why McDaniels used him on screens a lot. You guys still need a vertical threat to go along with Marshall and you should be set.

and also does Marshall's presence open it up for the #2 receiver..in denver's case E.Royal i believe!

No, because Marshall's game isn't based on speed. It's usually burners who open things up. For all the hype Marshall got It was actually Royal being the one double teamed more often because he could burn you deep.
 
Marshall is not a vertical threat, but more of a possession receiver with an uncanny ability to break and dodge tackles. He can take a 5 yard pass and turn it into 15 which is why McDaniels used him on screens a lot. You guys still need a vertical threat to go along with Marshall and you should be set.



No, because Marshall's game isn't based on speed. It's usually burners who open things up. For all the hype Marshall got It was actually Royal being the one double teamed more often because he could burn you deep.

Sounds like your not too impress with Marshall! Do you at least consider him a top 10 receiver in the league?
 
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