Interesting Read About Jordan and his shoes...

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Disclaimer: I got this from NikeTalk....when it comes to kicks these dudes are pretty reputable..But I dont know if this is exactly true..but this is what a cat posted...

Well, just talked to a repersentive for Jordan Brand, as a niketalker I ask a lot of questions and he gave me alot of answers, here is a couple of notes

1.He thought it was funny how niketalk always flames gentry and jordan brand inc. for qualitly ,colors and what is being released, because Micheal Jordan has 99% of control and is the main reason for what jordan brand has come to.(Called gentry a great "Fall Guy")

2. He also said that after alot of meetings with micheal, micheal jordan's main focus is to make shoes at the lowest cost and get the most return back, so he said that they are constanly searching for cheap leathers and material that can go on the shoes.

3. He seemed really upset with what was going on and I asked him why dont he try to change the way JB is running, and he laughed and said its either MJ way or the Highway, he also said Micheal Jordan is burning alot of bridges in the shoe world so alot of great designers dont want to deal with him because of his disrespectful attitude and his Jerry Jones like control.(He said alot of them are waiting for their contract to end and will go over to Nike Basketball)

4. Finally I asked him what is the future of JB and he told me Micheal Jordan really hates when Low Class people buy his shoes, he wants the brand to be like tommy hillifiger and not Polo, so they are trying to figure out ways to market jordan brand as a high class brand without being racist.

and they end of our convo, I told him my name and ask for his and he laughed and said "I told you enough."""""


Honestly I can believe it. I like the classic Jordans mainly 3-8, 11. But those were Nike products. The retroes do feel alot cheaper and cost more. A few points strike me as hilarious though. Making a cheaper product while using just your name alone to boost the price has never worked long term....

Another thing is the part about Tommy vs. Polo...Do they realize that more people "high" and "low" class buy alot more Polo than Tommy? ...:yes: Another thing is if you aiming your product "High Class" demographics, wouldnt it be wise to make a high class product?.....
 
A lot of dudes on NT claim inside info, but there's only certain ones I pay attention too

This sounds like bullshit

Because from what I hear, Jordan isn't hands on
 
yeah I havent been on there in a while like a few years. I really only like old Nikes so I go on there once in a green moon....At the same time the only reason I give it ANY kind of weight is because that post is real old, if something is BS they usually would take it down...and to be honest from buying retroes and still having the originals the retroes are ALOT cheaper in terms of feel of quality..
 
Please stop with this shit. This has been on Niketalk for at least 2 months. We figured out there was some truth to what the OP said, but there was a lot of bullshit.
 
The only pair of Jordan's I ever bought ... I got for FREE.

Fuck paying $130+ for a pair of sneakers. Most all sneakers are designed to basically stress fatigue out and lose more than half their ideal cushioning ability in about 250 miles give or take.

Not to mention, 90% of Jordans ARE BUTT UGLY AS SHIT. Only like once in every 5 releases do they come up with a very attractive design.
 
i stopped wearin em in h.s... i jst buy em for my son.. but i do plan on getting the new space jams this christmas though :yes: ,, so im back on it i guess
 
Didn't know polo was for "low class" poeple. Has anyone else heard this before?

I think he's talking about the fact that Tommy Hilfiger has become more of an exclusive brand and no where near as ubiquitous as Polo.

To be honest, you can see bumbs walking down the street wearing Polo lately.

On the flipside, Tommy Hilfiger DREADED the fucking fact that URBAN BLACK KIDS were wearing his clothes until he saw how Grand Puba and Rap were blowing up his sales and exposure.

Oh, then he loved it. :hmm:
 
I think he's talking about the fact that Tommy Hilfiger has become more of an exclusive brand and no where near as ubiquitous as Polo.

To be honest, you can see bumbs walking down the street wearing Polo lately.

On the flipside, Tommy Hilfiger DREADED the fucking fact that URBAN BLACK KIDS were wearing his clothes until he saw how Grand Puba and Rap were blowing up his sales and exposure.

Oh, then he loved it. :hmm:

Heist to be honest it isnt exclusive, people just dont like it much anymore. The Tommy section is smaller than Polos at any department store a person can name. Funny how when a brand falls out of the favor of the general public they call it "exclusive"...:lol:
 
I've never been a Jordan fan. I never understood how people could pay $150 for a pair of shoes.

Maybe it's just me. :dunno:
 
i stopped wearin em in h.s... i jst buy em for my son.. but i do plan on getting the new space jams this christmas though :yes: ,, so im back on it i guess

Aint nothing wrong with a classic pair of kicks. Cats on here kick that bullshit all day like they never wore sneakers and somehow...sneakers are childish.... As man your wardrobe should not consist of just sneakers but nothing wrong with kicks especially classics from your day. I never understood how people say Jordans are for "kids" when the classic models are from when WE were kids...Thats like telling Jay-Z because he's 41 he cant rap anymore because rap is for kids..but rap started in his day........
 
I've never been a Jordan fan. I never understood how people could pay $150 for a pair of shoes.

Maybe it's just me. :dunno:

I could never understood how people could pay $150 for some shoes and then....dont wear em. That goes for any pair of shoes...I've had alot of footwear in general and have worn every pair. I dont spend more than $100-120 on my business shoes because we might have a formal meeting once or twice a month. Most of the time its conference calls...I never understood how cats in my office would go spend $350 on some Pradas that they only wear once every 60 days.
 
I could never understood how people could pay $150 for some shoes and then....dont wear em. That goes for any pair of shoes...I've had alot of footwear in general and have worn every pair. I dont spend more than $100-120 on my business shoes because we might have a formal meeting once or twice a month. Most of the time its conference calls...I never understood how cats in my office would go spend $350 on some Pradas that they only wear once every 60 days.

from my experience cheap shoes squeak, they hurt my feet, the leather doesn't hold up to polishing, this shouldnt matter but women can spot cheap shoes on a man a mile away.
 
The jordan brand is dieing out anyway the same alledged 'low class' people are the ones that have been buying and supporting his brand. Michael jordan doesn't come off as a classy person why exactly he thinks a brand whose foundation is not classy will somehow cross over is beyond me.
 
On the flipside, Tommy Hilfiger DREADED the fucking fact that URBAN BLACK KIDS were wearing his clothes until he saw how Grand Puba and Rap were blowing up his sales and exposure.

Oh, then he loved it. :hmm:

That sounds like the false claims about what he said on Oprah, so I'm going to say whatever on this.


Anyhow, the guy sounds like he's from a small town, likely from somewhere in the south. That's about the only place that Tommy Hilfiger is still seen as mega huge brand, or at least one bigger the Polo. Keep in mind that I'm not saying that Tommy Hilfiger is a has been brand either. Before it was taken private it was sold for something like 4.2 billion a few years back. The thing is however, Polo is one of the largest brands/retailers in the US making more than what Tommy sold for in a year.

Maybe the guy meant making it into a privately held brand but I'm not sure in how that would be beneficial unless they also expand the brands at the same time but I definitely doubt Jordan would want to put that much time into it. It's not like he has to spend a bunch of time dealing with shareholders as it is. That's Nike's Job.
 
:confused:

I honestly didnt know Tommy Hilfiger was still around as a brand.

Originally Posted by Article
he wants the brand to be like tommy hillifiger and not Polo

isnt that the other way around??? hilfiger is dumb cheap and polo is mad expensive....white people dont fuck wit hilfiger much
 
when it comes to kicks these dudes are pretty reputable
:lol:People still go to NT? I mean that site is full of teenagers,wanna-be's and frauds.The guys with the real info dont even be on there anymore or post anything.

I remember a guy who use to post preview pics of jordans before anyone else would see em and he would put on NT,thats what made NT the site to go to.But he vanished like so many others.


Making a cheaper product while using just your name alone to boost the price has never worked long term....
Im 24yrs olds and I can remember when sneakers were made of real Leather or suede,but when the companies introduced that "Buck" material for the sneakers,the quality started declining.


:dunno:I dont know what to beleive nowadays because its just soooo wide open,anyone and everyone is doing it.
 
any pix of the space jams?

jays.jpg
 
:lol:People still go to NT? I mean that site is full of teenagers,wanna-be's and frauds.The guys with the real info dont even be on there anymore or post anything.

I remember a guy who use to post preview pics of jordans before anyone else would see em and he would put on NT,thats what made NT the site to go to.But he vanished like so many others.



Im 24yrs olds and I can remember when sneakers were made of real Leather or suede,but when the companies introduced that "Buck" material for the sneakers,the quality started declining.


:dunno:I dont know what to beleive nowadays because its just soooo wide open,anyone and everyone is doing it.
You are talking about Air Randy. He stopped posting kicks early, because his connect was in deep shit for letting them go so early.
 
folks paying $200+ for $8 shoes

And people are paying thousands for some funny looking rocks from the ground :rolleyes:

:lol:People still go to NT? I mean that site is full of teenagers,wanna-be's and frauds.The guys with the real info dont even be on there anymore or post anything.

I remember a guy who use to post preview pics of jordans before anyone else would see em and he would put on NT,thats what made NT the site to go to.But he vanished like so many others.

Guys with real info still come on NT :hmm:

Most of the pics on the net still come from NT :rolleyes:

You are talking about Air Randy. He stopped posting kicks early, because his connect was in deep shit for letting them go so early.

Air Randy is back, in a different form
 
:lol:People still go to NT? I mean that site is full of teenagers,wanna-be's and frauds.The guys with the real info dont even be on there anymore or post anything.

I remember a guy who use to post preview pics of jordans before anyone else would see em and he would put on NT,thats what made NT the site to go to.But he vanished like so many others.



Im 24yrs olds and I can remember when sneakers were made of real Leather or suede,but when the companies introduced that "Buck" material for the sneakers,the quality started declining.


:dunno:I dont know what to beleive nowadays because its just soooo wide open,anyone and everyone is doing it.


Buck-Quality translation=Bullshit.
 
Originally Posted by Article
he wants the brand to be like tommy hillifiger and not Polo

isnt that the other way around??? hilfiger is dumb cheap and polo is mad expensive....white people dont fuck wit hilfiger much

I guess it depends on where you are. They have a Tommy section in every Macy's and I only see an occasional white person wearing Tommy.
 
Guys with real info still come on NT

Most of the pics on the net still come from NT
Oh yeah???...maybe your the only person that see's this info on sneakers and not that only BS.
 
Oh yeah???...maybe your the only person that see's this info on sneakers and not that only BS.

Naw, maybe it's because I've been up there for years, and know enough about sneakers to add to the discussion, contribute, and not just lurk and take :rolleyes:
 
The only reason I ever purchased/obtained Jordans was to sell them to the ignorant masses for double (triple with the 11's) what I paid. People and their Jordan obsession :smh::smh::smh:
 
Naw, maybe it's because I've been up there for years, and know enough about sneakers to add to the discussion, contribute, and not just lurk and take :rolleyes:
9 times out of 10 You probably haven't been on that site no longer than Ive been lurking,which I have a screen name.Contributing? in what form?whats your screen name on that site because If I can remember it or recall that would say alot more.I haven't been on there in two years...
 
Why do people always run in a sneaker topic on some holier than now nagging bitch shit.

I don't collect Jordan, whoop dee damn doo, who gives a fuck. Eat shit and die muthafucka.

You might be in to cars, watches, cologne, jewelry, ties or some other bullshit that some others might give a fuck about. Do you run in a TV thread saying why do you have a 52 inch TV, you can see a 13 inch tube TV fine. :hmm:

Who are you to judge? Why do you come in these threads, just to say that dumb shit.

Stop worrying about what people choose to spend their money on. Worry about your own pockets.

I swear the bitch ass single mom raised faggots are taking over BGOL. :smh:
 
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