Time to Give Up the Ghost on Bin Laden

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By Robert Baer Monday, Dec. 07, 2009
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Osama Bin Laden appears in a video aired on the eve of
the second anniversary of the September 11 attacks.

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This week the Obama Administration made an unusual admission: It doesn't have a clue where Osama bin Laden is. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said that there hasn't been good intelligence on bin Laden for years. The National Security Adviser James Jones said the best guess is that bin Laden may be moving back and forth across the Pak-Afghan, a rugged mountain range never governed in history. (See pictures of Osama Bin Laden.)

I asked an ex-CIA colleague who's been on the bin Laden hunt since 9/11. "He's dead of course," he said. "No wonder there's no intelligence on him." But what about the audio and video tapes? I asked. He said they easily could have been digitally mastered from old tapes and audio recordings. He quickly admitted the CIA has absolutely no evidence bin Laden died. It's only a hunch — and years of experience chasing fugitive terrorists.

The theory that bin Laden is dead doesn't get much currency in Washington because it veers off into the realm of conspiracies. And people that believe it are scared that the moment they air it bin Laden will re-appear the next day. Anyhow, it's a real possibility bin Laden was killed at Tora Bora in late 2001, and is now buried under tons of rock and never to be found. Or he died of ill health in the intervening years.

But let's accept for the sake of argument that bin Laden is alive and well. Other than the obvious — he's living in an ungovernable part of the world — bin Laden maintains an extraordinarily exacting standard of security. It is beyond anything we've ever seen. He's never been on a cell or a satellite phone. He doesn't use the Internet. And little doubt the people around him adhere to the same strict standards.

But, in the absence of intelligence, that is pretty much all we can say. And by this logic bin Laden may not in fact be living in the mountains along the Pak-Afghan border. For all we know, he could just as easily be in Pakistan's Baluchistan Province, another piece of Pakistan outside the writ of Pakistan's government and NATO forces. Or for that matter bin Laden could be in Somalia or, who knows, some remote island off Indonesia.

The Administration's frankness is refreshing, but it suggests that we should really start considering the possibility that bin Laden will never be found. Sending 30,000 more American troops to Afghanistan is not going to put us any closer to finding Osama bin Laden. If his security is as good as it appears to be, even a door to door search of every house in Pakistan's tribal regions would produce nothing.

Unless our luck changes, the best we should hope from the Afghan surge — and hope is about all we can be certain of — is that we manage to drain the swamp and keep bin Laden holed up in the mountains or wherever he is. But the question is, assuming we never find him, how will we know when the Afghan swamp is drained?

Baer, a former Middle East CIA field officer, is TIME.com's intelligence columnist and the author of See No Evil and, most recently, The Devil We Know: Dealing with the New Iranian Superpower.

-VG
 
Personally I feel he is still alive. But that Pakistan Afghan region is one of the most ideal places for a person to disappear into
 
Benazhir Bhutto (sp?) said this years ago before she was assasinated. I believed it then....believe it now.
 
He's probably chilling right here in the good ole' US of A disguised as a Jewish businessman, ya'll do know how the feds get down.:lol::lol::lol:
 
He's probably chilling right here in the good ole' US of A disguised as a Jewish businessman, ya'll do know how the feds get down.:lol::lol::lol:

Hell yea, cut off all the facial hair, color his hair black, putem in a suit, you wouldnt even recognize him.
 
That fucka has been dead. Anyone still believing a 6'4" man with Kidney disease (meaning he needs dialysis), living in a cave sending orders out to his minions for 8 yrs needs to body themselves. If they could find Sadam in a hole why not this guy?
 
Wasn't Bhutto assassinated for ousting the truth about Bin Laden having been killed long ago?
 
Benazhir Bhutto (sp?) said this years ago before she was assasinated. I believed it then....believe it now.

That fucka has been dead. Anyone still believing a 6'4" man with Kidney disease (meaning he needs dialysis), living in a cave sending orders out to his minions for 8 yrs needs to body themselves. If they could find Sadam in a hole why not this guy?

He's dead, he served his purpose.

Wasn't Bhutto assassinated for ousting the truth about Bin Laden having been killed long ago?

..........
 
He was sick at the time of the 911 bombings and his family had dinner with the Bush family that same week......C'mon man.
The man was dying from Kidney disease, which means he had to have Dialysis at least 2 times a week. That kind of medical equipment is hard to run in a cave. I would say there is a good possibility that Bin Laden passed away. They are using him as a scape goat-Remember when they showed photos of the dead pilots who crashed the planes into the towers?1?........Then it turned out they were still alive and had not actually been on the plane?
The Gov't lies plain and simple.
:rolleyes:
 
^^ which is why...I'm with Mos Def on this one... I don't know if Bin Laden is even real or not... :dunno::dunno:
 
Bin Laden IMO is dead like some of the earlier posters said. This is just one example of how powerful the 'sanitized' media propaganda really is for most of these lemming like humanoids. All they have to do is create a boogey man and these apple pie, flag hugging yokels panic.
 
If you saw swordfish.....then you know how these Kats operate. the art of misdirection....Hollywoo Hollywoo the big magic wand that creates your reality.....!!!!;)
 
At least the Obama admitted they don't know where he is, read between the lines they are saying we are not wasting time looking for him.

And use Bin laden is dead, only sheep in this country will believe he still alive.
 
Benazhir Bhutto (sp?) said this years ago before she was assasinated. I believed it then....believe it now.



just about to say this
dont know how some grainy vhs that looks 20 years old with a random breaded guy speakin in a language only 10 americans even understand is proof of anything
 
He was sick at the time of the 911 bombings and his family had dinner with the Bush family that same week......C'mon man.
The man was dying from Kidney disease, which means he had to have Dialysis at least 2 times a week. That kind of medical equipment is hard to run in a cave. I would say there is a good possibility that Bin Laden passed away. They are using him as a scape goat-Remember when they showed photos of the dead pilots who crashed the planes into the towers?1?........Then it turned out they were still alive and had not actually been on the plane?
The Gov't lies plain and simple.
:rolleyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearsay_in_English_law

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearsay_in_English_law
 
bush himself claimed that he wasnt concerned about bin laden... RIP benazir bhutto


US Govt = US Gang Of Vicious Terrorists
 
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"binny isn't dead, he is still out there!! You need more weapons, more war, go get him!!!!!!!!"
 
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:eek: :jackoff: :eek: :jackoff: :lol: Shawty iz a tiiiiiiin! :lol:



As For Bin Ladin.. Dead or Alive that pawns use was well served in the grand scheme of things.....
 
I believe Bin Laden has been dead since before 9/11 even happened. They just used him as a scape goat so they could go to war in Iraq and take control of the oil there.
 
Wasn't Bhutto assassinated for ousting the truth about Bin Laden having been killed long ago?

She said the mufucka's name.:eek: the man who killed Osama.

Then got merked out in public on film, with security all around

just like kennedy or some shit.

:smh::smh::smh::smh::smh::smh:
 
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