i dont watch the shows but i occasionaly skim by to see what videos they are showing.
i love when they throw a 90s block on mtv jams
Would Black Folks Have Been Better off Without Hip-Hop Music?
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i dont watch the shows but i occasionaly skim by to see what videos they are showing.
i love when they throw a 90s block on mtv jams
- been eating those spoiled mayonnaise sandwiches again!? didn't I just fucking say that MOVIES, SOME TV SHOWS, and NEWS would be all that would be left?
and on the radio, it wouldn't exist AT ALL. no sex, no profanity, no drug usage...again, am I wrong?
No drug use?
Nigga please
you know them CAC rockers stay high as a kite
Nigga please
you know them CAC rockers stay high as a kite
- been eating those spoiled mayonnaise sandwiches again!? didn't I just fucking say that MOVIES, SOME TV SHOWS, and NEWS would be all that would be left?
and on the radio, it wouldn't exist AT ALL. no sex, no profanity, no drug usage...again, am I wrong?
yeah u are wrong.
there is no profanity on the radio.
what about RnB?no sex there?
there is a shit load of rock about sex and drugs.
"sex,drugs,and rock n roll"
what about the violence in movies ant tv shows.
rap isnt the cause.
society is the cause.
- nigga where!!? pull me some lyrics/songs where rockers sing about doing EX and smoking WEED...i
and hell, even during the 80's, the "satan" music was all metaphorical - that means that no rockers were singing "WORSHIP SATAN BURN YOUR BIBLES BLOW UP YOUR CHURCH!!"...
whereas now, rappers are so blatant, they just come out and SAY IT: "WAIT TILL YOU SEE MY DICK", "LICK MY NECK MY BACK!!", "WE COOK DOPE AND SELL IT BY THE POUND"...
Wow....
You're making it too easy
[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/u8VB1quQf8o&hl[/FLASH]
"She packed my bags last night pre-flight
Zero hour nine a.m.
And I'm gonna be high as a kite by then
I miss the earth so much I miss my wife
It's lonely out in space
On such a timeless flight"
Elton stayed high. Led Zeppelin stayed high, The Doors stayed high
You know nothing about music.
You're making it too easy
[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/u8VB1quQf8o&hl[/FLASH]
"She packed my bags last night pre-flight
Zero hour nine a.m.
And I'm gonna be high as a kite by then
I miss the earth so much I miss my wife
It's lonely out in space
On such a timeless flight"
Elton stayed high. Led Zeppelin stayed high, The Doors stayed high
You know nothing about music.
- pull me some examples Bob.
give me examples of rock songs, NOW, that promote sex, drugs, violence Billy.
the 80's were 20 years ago Tyler.
most of these POISON and KISS fans are soccer moms and nascar dads, Ethan.
and i've said 3 times already, violence and sex will be on TV and in MOVIES - that's nothing new Josh
and I notice you are conveniently ignoring the RADIO...pull rap off of it, and there would be 0 drug, sex, violence on it...
I agree with you, but one of my favorite bands is Def Leppard and they have a song called Rocket and in the song the lead singer screams out. Good times!!! Drugs!!!but I would rather listen to that than
"I'm runnin' yo jewels nigga.
reach for the sky nigga.
your moms gon' cry nigga
cause you gon' die nigga."
- nigga kill yourself. seriously.
you are comparing a line where somebody says "i'm gonna be high as a kite"
to niggas rapping about popping ex, putting pills in girls asses, smoking weed!?
cmon man...it's like debating w/a pack of skittles sometimes on here...
Dog that was a tame example...
All of the old rock bands from the 60s-80s stayed high as fuck.
Kurt Kobain, remember him
There might be more psychedelic stoner hippie songs out there than weed & ex pill songs.
All of the old rock bands from the 60s-80s stayed high as fuck.
Kurt Kobain, remember him
There might be more psychedelic stoner hippie songs out there than weed & ex pill songs.
sirwoods here is the song I'm talking about
and it's one of my favorite songs.
http://rapidshare.com/files/37459509/Def_Leppard_-_Rocket.mp3
White lights, strange city, mad music
(All around)
Midnight, street magic, (ah) crazy people
(Crazy sound)
Jack Flash, rocket man
Sergeant Pepper and the band
Ziggy, Benny and the Jets
Ah, take a rocket
We just gotta fly
(I can take you through the center of the dark)
We're gonna fly
(On a collision course to crash into my heart)
I will be your, I will be your, I'll be your
(Rocket yeah satellite of love)
(Rocket yeah satellite of love)
(Rocket yeah satellite of love)
Rocket baby!
C'mon, I'll be your satellite of love
Spotlight, magnetic, razor rhythm
(laser love)
Guitar, drums, load up, stun!
Jet Black Johnny B
Ah Gene Jenie, Killer Queen
Dizzy Lizzy Major Tom
So c'mon
Good times!
Drugs!
Rocket baby!
C'mon, we're gonna fly
(Rocket yeah!)
Guitar, drums, load up!
We're gonna fly
(Rocket yeah)
Satellite of love
We're gonna fly
(Rocket yeah)
Yeah!
Satellite of love
Rocket yeah!
and it's one of my favorite songs.
http://rapidshare.com/files/37459509/Def_Leppard_-_Rocket.mp3
White lights, strange city, mad music
(All around)
Midnight, street magic, (ah) crazy people
(Crazy sound)
Jack Flash, rocket man
Sergeant Pepper and the band
Ziggy, Benny and the Jets
Ah, take a rocket
We just gotta fly
(I can take you through the center of the dark)
We're gonna fly
(On a collision course to crash into my heart)
I will be your, I will be your, I'll be your
(Rocket yeah satellite of love)
(Rocket yeah satellite of love)
(Rocket yeah satellite of love)
Rocket baby!
C'mon, I'll be your satellite of love
Spotlight, magnetic, razor rhythm
(laser love)
Guitar, drums, load up, stun!
Jet Black Johnny B
Ah Gene Jenie, Killer Queen
Dizzy Lizzy Major Tom
So c'mon
Good times!
Drugs!
Rocket baby!
C'mon, we're gonna fly
(Rocket yeah!)
Guitar, drums, load up!
We're gonna fly
(Rocket yeah)
Satellite of love
We're gonna fly
(Rocket yeah)
Yeah!
Satellite of love
Rocket yeah!
Dog that was a tame example...
All of the old rock bands from the 60s-80s stayed high as fuck.
Kurt Kobain, remember him
There might be more psychedelic stoner hippie songs out there than weed & ex pill songs.
i'm not saying they didn't GET HIGH, i'm saying the message in the music...
and all up and down this thread, cats are reaching back in time to defend bullshit RAP MUSIC, even yourself in just 2 replies you've spanned the entire gamut- elton john (70's), old rock bands from the 60's-80's, curt cobain in the 90's...
man up and admit the shit...RAP MUSIC is the most socially destructive and irrelevant art form known to mankind...
Do you hear them going around talking about killing other white people for their rims and calling themselves crackers???
Top 10 Most Insane Moments in Rock
Enjoy.
- again, compared to what we hear in rap, that shit is tame and mild...and back then that caused an uproar...
now, if a rapper just said in his raps "we do drugs!" people would call that corny...
i be trappin, i be trappin
i be workin, i be twerkin
i be movin, i be joogin
i be bussin down dem birds (x4)
(verse 1)
trappin is a must, i be servin all da time man
im posted on the crest with dem bricks pills and pounds
old school chevy 20 inches off the ground
blowin on this kush and roll it straight up out the pound
32 ent. dog we constantly workin
'07 avalanche same color urkel
flyin down 20 and we all smokin purple
twerkin 5 phones we'll call em' chirp mobiles
movin units dog thats a every day hobby
20,000 dollars for the juice to go shoppin
50 karat bracelet, 80 karat chain
spendin big gwap 'cause money ain't a thang
i be movin, i be joogin, i be bussin niggas heads
with this A1 recipe, got me all this bread
ima stay 10 toes and try to duck the feds
young juiceman bitch, and i ain't never scared
chorus (x4)
(verse 2)
big shit poppin, lil shit stoppin
the track plus my vocals got yo head boppin
lenin suits and prada is what rhe juice rockin
multi colored diamonds got yo bitch eye poppin
chain swang shawty, got yo hoe arch hoppin
i need a new car so am i car lot boppin
shut down the mall when i go shoppin
100,000 nights and 60 of it profit
'lac same color camel road red lobster
eatin calimari swordfish with the mobsters
lendin out money, like i am a loanshark
ridin in the 645 with the loenheart
chevy truck plus, hummer truck plus, 745 same color as the bus
36 bricks in my dooley truck, rollin up the barney, countin up bucks
chorus(x4)
(verse 3)
mountain dew monte carlo sittin on 26's
in the kitchen dog and im whippin like 2 chickens
hustlin is a habit, cornbread and cabbage
the brickhouse times 2 dog i made it happen
try to jack shit then the roogas get to clappin
country boy, half a brick so im high taxin
magic city monday nights yo paper dog im matchin
glass house jumpin, like a pissy mattress
pissy chain, pissy ring, jewelry got a bladder problem
mazarati suicide doors call that bitch skywalker
mexican plug dog sendin work cross that salty water
young juiceman got the gwap runnin cross the border
500 chicken hell yea thats a big order
big chain, big ring with 5 top lawyers
im juiceman 32 ent.
bouldercrest B.O.U.N.D.
chorus (x4)
i'm not saying they didn't GET HIGH, i'm saying the message in the music...
and all up and down this thread, cats are reaching back in time to defend bullshit RAP MUSIC, even yourself in just 2 replies you've spanned the entire gamut- elton john (70's), old rock bands from the 60's-80's, curt cobain in the 90's...
man up and admit the shit...RAP MUSIC is the most socially destructive and irrelevant art form known to mankind...
Reach back in time for a fact?Your damn right
Every rapper isn't glorifying drug use you dumb fuck.
Just like every rocker isn't glorifying devil worship.
How is RAP MUSIC irrelevant when it allowed "SELL OUTS" like Ice Cube to make multi-millions...
Every rapper isn't glorifying drug use you dumb fuck.
Just like every rocker isn't glorifying devil worship.
How is RAP MUSIC irrelevant when it allowed "SELL OUTS" like Ice Cube to make multi-millions...
Aristotle who plagarized most of his ideas from the wise men and women of the temple of Luxor(Kimit/Ancient Egypt), which was renamed "Alexandra" after Alexander the conqueror -wish they had copyscape then- wrote about the power of poets on the people, and even stated that poets should be regulated and censored, also killed.
Without hip hop, it would have taken me years to understand the bible from a black perspective, instead at the age of 12, I was reciting biblical lit, thanks to KRS-1. Being in St. Louis, it would have taken me years, if ever, to get an acquaintance with the 5% movement: thanks goes out to the Poor Righteous Teachers, Rakim, and the Wu. Without hip hop, my partner would have never checked out Niccolo Machiavelli's "The Prince", and I would have never begun my research into his life, nor taken any political science classes: big ups 'Pac...
This list goes on and on of lessons that I picked up through hip hop. I would say the problem lessons that I acquired, the motivation to do ill deeds, could have been stalled by more informed parents.
I wouldn't say that blacks would be better off without hip-hop, I'd say that we will one day master it.
" Allah hath given thee no good, without its admixture of evil; but he hath given thee also the means of throwing off the evil from it.
As joy is not without its alloy of pain, so neither is sorrow without its portion of pleasure. Joy and grief, though unlike, are united. Our own choice only can give them to us entirely.
Melancholy itself often giveth delight, and the extremity of joys are mingled with tears.
The best things in the hands of a fool may be turned to his destruction; and out of the worst, the wise will find means of good."
- Noble Drew Ali, Circle Seven, "Weakness"
Without hip hop, it would have taken me years to understand the bible from a black perspective, instead at the age of 12, I was reciting biblical lit, thanks to KRS-1. Being in St. Louis, it would have taken me years, if ever, to get an acquaintance with the 5% movement: thanks goes out to the Poor Righteous Teachers, Rakim, and the Wu. Without hip hop, my partner would have never checked out Niccolo Machiavelli's "The Prince", and I would have never begun my research into his life, nor taken any political science classes: big ups 'Pac...
This list goes on and on of lessons that I picked up through hip hop. I would say the problem lessons that I acquired, the motivation to do ill deeds, could have been stalled by more informed parents.
I wouldn't say that blacks would be better off without hip-hop, I'd say that we will one day master it.
" Allah hath given thee no good, without its admixture of evil; but he hath given thee also the means of throwing off the evil from it.
As joy is not without its alloy of pain, so neither is sorrow without its portion of pleasure. Joy and grief, though unlike, are united. Our own choice only can give them to us entirely.
Melancholy itself often giveth delight, and the extremity of joys are mingled with tears.
The best things in the hands of a fool may be turned to his destruction; and out of the worst, the wise will find means of good."
- Noble Drew Ali, Circle Seven, "Weakness"
oh I agree, I don't listen to rap at all. I listen to Opera, claaical, rock, heavy metal, acid rock , and alternative rock. I would not listen to rap for anything. It's degrading and demoralizing..
Reach back in time for a fact?Your damn right
Every rapper isn't glorifying drug use you dumb fuck.
Just like every rocker isn't glorifying devil worship.
How is RAP MUSIC irrelevant when it allowed "SELL OUTS" like Ice Cube to make multi-millions...
- every rapper that's EATING is glorifying drug use or drug dealing you dumb fuck.
in actuality - very FEW rockers "glorified" devil worship...but hey, rapping about murder, drugs, and sex on every track isn't devil worship though
and i'm glad you mentioned ice cube, because if him, queen latifah, will smith, ice-t, and LL were still trying to rap, they'd be managers at Safeway right now...the only genre of music where that many of its PIONEERS had to go elsewhere to eat...
however, ice cube is the only one in that bunch who specifically rapped against that, but then turned around and did it himself - he's coontastic!
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dont blaim hip hop.
blaim fucked up parenting and bad kids.
some people are just fuck ups.
blaim fucked up parenting and bad kids.
some people are just fuck ups.
- futher proof that some of you are dumber than these keys i'm punching right now..
wow. first of all you just posted a somewhat ANTI-DRUG song from weezer...that song is MOS DEF not trying to "promote" drug usage at all...
secondly, I asked for MODERN tracks and you pull the velvet underground out of your ass...why not pull some curtis mayfield while your at it?
at the end of the day, my point still stands: pull rap off the radio and the shit isn't there, pull it off TV and niggas would be forced to watch CSI to get their fix....
- every rapper that's EATING is glorifying drug use or drug dealing you dumb fuck.
in actuality - very FEW rockers "glorified" devil worship...but hey, rapping about murder, drugs, and sex on every track isn't devil worship though
and i'm glad you mentioned ice cube, because if him, queen latifah, will smith, ice-t, and LL were still trying to rap, they'd be managers at Safeway right now...the only genre of music where that many of its PIONEERS had to go elsewhere to eat...
however, ice cube is the only one in that bunch who specifically rapped against that, but then turned around and did it himself - he's coontastic!
Because you know what these people would have done with their life if they hadn't picked up a mic right...
Nigga they would still have more money than you if rap never existed anyway.
Like I said. When you actually meet Cube, and Ice T like I have....Then you'll be allowed to hollar that coon shit all you want.
Until then nigga:
Nigga they would still have more money than you if rap never existed anyway.
Like I said. When you actually meet Cube, and Ice T like I have....Then you'll be allowed to hollar that coon shit all you want.
Until then nigga:
ok let me put it this way...
what your saying is exactly how i feel.
so you say weezer isnt about promoting drugs ok
so i say talib kweli isnt about drugs and rims.
comprende.
Common
Mos
Talib
Black Thought
Kanye
None of these cats talk about all the drug shit and still got platinum.
FYI Weed is not a drug.
Mos
Talib
Black Thought
Kanye
None of these cats talk about all the drug shit and still got platinum.
FYI Weed is not a drug.
If you don't like hip hop and the culture,,,,,,
Hiphop would have been better without all the ASSHOLES RUINING IT WITH THEIR TRENDS AND RINGTONE-FRIENDLY bullshit in recent years.
Everything was good until the past damn decade.
Everything was good until the past damn decade.
Once apon a time i would of said no, but now Yes. If u remove all flash(I drive this I'm wearing that). All the bitch this hoe that, and bring back the no biting rule. I think hip Hop would be banging again. This one thing i don't understand. Why do rappers brag about pushing a Mayback, Benz or wearing Gucci but don't get paid for mentioning there names. 
Once apon a time i would of said no, but now Yes. If u remove all flash(I drive this I'm wearing that). All the bitch this hoe that, and bring back the no biting rule. I think hip Hop would be banging again. This one thing i don't understand. Why do rappers brag about pushing a Mayback, Benz or wearing Gucci but don't get paid for mentioning there names.
They do it out of shear ignorance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HynmzndbQ8
Hashpipe by weezer. A song about weed and finding tricks. One of my old favorites. Shall I continue posting more?
Not that I am here to defend rap. I couldn't give a fuck about it one way or the other. I just don't think it makes a difference. The truth is that if people are dumb enough to let rap define or influence them...then even without rap music existing they would have let some just as bad influence them anyway. It's called weak mindedness my friend.
Someone with an actual understanding of the true problem. Common sense clearly is no longer common.
please, continue posting more...tell u what, how about we race to see who can find more songs? I'll take rap - you take rock/folk/country/jazz or whatever genre u want...would you take me up on that bet?
and honestly this is a stoner track - there are gonna be stoner tracks always have and always will...
but this is BGOL so i expect cats to pull these types of tracks out in comparison to DAILY rap songs being recorded and released about ex, crack, blow, and weed...
please, continue posting more...tell u what, how about we race to see who can find more songs? I'll take rap - you take rock/folk/country/jazz or whatever genre u want...would you take me up on that bet?
and honestly this is a stoner track - there are gonna be stoner tracks always have and always will...
but this is BGOL so i expect cats to pull these types of tracks out in comparison to DAILY rap songs being recorded and released about ex, crack, blow, and weed...
why attack an artform?
attack the people that can't be responsible for their own actions.
attack the people that market the bottom of the bucket of rap to the massess.
dont attack a whole genre.
please, continue posting more...tell u what, how about we race to see who can find more songs? I'll take rap - you take rock/folk/country/jazz or whatever genre u want...would you take me up on that bet?
and honestly this is a stoner track - there are gonna be stoner tracks always have and always will...
but this is BGOL so i expect cats to pull these types of tracks out in comparison to DAILY rap songs being recorded and released about ex, crack, blow, and weed...
how many folk artists have dope dealers outside there doorstep?
how many country artists grew up where the male role model was a dope dealer?
How many rock artists have to worry about what color hat they wear walking thru their neighborhood?
now how many of those things were there before rap?
- seriously dude, you are in over your head on this one...speaking on shit you know NOTHING about.
if not for white peoples undying obsession with wanting to see black people behave like wild animals, this thread would not exist. i don't give a shit how many of you show up to dead prez concerts.
with that said - I know the difference between a rapper telling me about the hardships of growing up in the ghetto, and a nigga with ice on his wrist and mouth riding rims and money stacks in his videos...that's called glorifying it.
and hey trailer park all star, I just posted this video yesterday...I grew up right dead smack in the hood, all of those things you listed have ALWAYS been around, ALWAYS. now, we are PRAISING AND GLORIFYING it...and it's not because of white america? white america doesn't love to watch that!? hmmmm....
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