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Would Black Folks Have Been Better off Without Hip-Hop Music?

Would Black Folks Have Been Better off Without Hip-Hop Music

  • Yes

    Votes: 27 32.5%

  • NO

    Votes: 44 53.0%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 12 14.5%
  • Total voters
    83
APOPHIS

APOPHIS

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Yes? No? Maybe? :confused:

We're all familiar with the negative imagery wrongly (or justly) associated with this popular subculture within the inner city Black communities and how it has greatly influenced our childhood upbringings in regards to poverty, violence, sexuality, mannerisms etc, etc.


Personally, I think its 50/50.
Lemme know whatcha think?:cool:
 
because hip hop is the reason why so many blak folks lived in projects and were introduced to crack right?
 
Flawless said:
because hip hop is the reason why so many blak folks lived in projects and were introduced to crack right?
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No, but it gave the CAC a wide open door to call us the N-Word and to revisit Amos & Andrew type bullshit without resistance and need for explanation.
 
JD Walker said:
No, but it gave the CAC a wide open door to call us the N-Word and to revisit Amos & Andrew type bullshit without resistance and need for explanation.
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How can you be such a hypocrite, you have been calling me "nigga" in another thread...
 
JD Walker said:
No, but it gave the CAC a wide open door to call us the N-Word and to revisit Amos & Andrew type bullshit without resistance and need for explanation.
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They say the same thing about Black comedians. Some White folks get upset that they can't make fun of Black people the same way Black people make fun of White people.
 
Flawless said:
because hip hop is the reason why so many blak folks lived in projects and were introduced to crack right?
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I never said that.
I'm neutral.

Hip-hop HAS influenced many Black youths negatively and some positively.
The glorification of the thug culture which mainstream hip-hop has embraced has permeated deep within the psyche of kids raised in the inner city. Let's take for instance a Black child raised in a middle to upper class family with very little exposure to street life and the music's influence. That child's education, mannerism, outlook on life, and many other factors will be very different from someone who is constantly hearing thug this, bitch that on the radio. Get me?
 
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Africanama said:
They say the same thing about Black comedians. Some White folks get upset that they can't make fun of Black people the same way Black people make fun of White people.
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O RLY?


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BMG said:
would puerto rican folks been better off without reggaeton music?
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Man, reggaeton was popping in the late 90s. Fuck after that. BTW Panama is responsible for the real Reggaeton, not Puerto Rico.
 
The Ignorance we see in Hiphop today is because of ignorant parents... The FUNK ERA and CRACKHEADS.
 
Yes.

One would have to ignore the obvious influence of television, music and movies on any population to suggest otherwise.

The same people who will vote no in this poll, will turn around and say how the way we have been portrayed in Hollywood has affected our cultures understanding of beauty (weaves, straightened hair), skin tone (bleaching), and self (the doll test); yet refuse to admit that our own music, movies and videos influence us as well, perhaps more so.

Of course media influences its audience; and if the media is the "gangster rap" segment of Hip Hop, then the influence is, has and shall continue to be a negative one.

If media does not influence its audience, then why is there over 600 billion..(that's billion) spent on advertising worldwide annually.
 
stupid people all over the globe and all throughout time have done dumb shit and then try to pass the blame off
for the time being there are gonna be dumb fucks everywhere
they dont need any external stimulus to be the way they are
 
HIP HOP IS THE URBAN CNN. HIP HOP IS ALL OVER THE WORLD FROM ASIA TO AFRICA ETC . dudes in third world countries get a space promote parties and rap and lets face it, you got rappers representing their countries and making some money...
1. PEOPLE MAKE PROFIT FROM ORGANIZING PARTIES,
2. dj'S
3. YOUNG JOURNALISTS WRITERS
4. RADIO HOSTS
5. CLUB OWNERS
6. MAANAGERS
7. PRODUCERS
8. VIDEO DIRECTORS, VIDEO HOES.......
9. GRAPHIC ARTISTS , WEB DESIGNERS, DESIGNING FLYERS ETC..
10.FASHION DESIGNERS
11. ETC....
BASICALLY IN THESE COUNTRIES YOUNG FOLKS HAVE WAYS TO MAKE SOME PAPER OF COURSE YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE CROOKS IN EVERY INDUSTRY LIKE RECORD LABEL OWNERS BUT THE POINT IS THAT RAP IS A WAY TO EXPRESS YOURSELF AND PARLAY INTO SOMETHING ELSE TOO LIKE ll cool j GETTING INTO ACTING .

YOUNGER GENERATION BOND TOGETHER THROUGH RAP. YOU HAVE EUROPEAN AND CANADIAN CATS financially supporting old school rappers and underground heads by paying to see them perform groups like DELA SOUL to SOMALIAN RAPPERS LIKE KANAAN.

we got look at the global big picture the world picture.
 
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Leeeeeee said:
Yes.

One would have to ignore the obvious influence of television, music and movies on any population to suggest otherwise.

The same people who will vote no in this poll, will turn around and say how the way we have been portrayed in Hollywood has affected our cultures understanding of beauty (weaves, straightened hair), skin tone (bleaching), and self (the doll test); yet refuse to admit that our own music, movies and videos influence us as well, perhaps more so.

Of course media influences its audience; and if the media is the "gangster rap" segment of Hip Hop, then the influence is, has and shall continue to be a negative one.

If media does not influence its audience, then why is there over 600 billion..(that's billion) spent on advertising worldwide annually.
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this is why i say no
the media doesnt have 100% influence over the entire population of the planet, just the dumb ones
and it doesnt matter what they use
it could be hiphop, myspace, good mornin america
whatever it is that grabs the attention of the slow so they can be controlled
 
APOPHIS said:
Yes? No? Maybe? :confused:

We're all familiar with the negative imagery wrongly (or justly) associated with this popular subculture within the inner city Black communities and how it has greatly influenced our childhood upbringings in regards to poverty, violence, sexuality, mannerisms etc, etc.


Personally, I think its 50/50.
Lemme know whatcha think?:cool:
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All those perceptions and imagery were around before hip hop during the 70's.

It didnt change before hip hop when some would say black music was at it's best, I don't think it hip hop really makes a difference.

Although, hip hop has it's pros and cons.
 
Flawless said:
because hip hop is the reason why so many blak folks lived in projects and were introduced to crack right?
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yes but even middle class black kids pretend they are hood because its cool.

the answer to the question is clearly yes and i love hiphop.
 
Hiphop sucks ass. It ruined R&B too, its fucking everywhere.

Can you imagine how bad "Whats going on" or any other 70's classic song would be if it had some fool like Rudy ray Moore rapping instead of the music breaks?:smh::smh:

I dont see how a group as homophobic as black people in this country can not see grown men making nursery rhymes over a beat is fucking GAY
 
Hip hop culture is just a symptom of what reality most black people face. If the majority of problems hiphop culture highlights weren't there then rap would have probably contained different lyrics. Before rap most soul musicians addressed the problems and glorified those problems but nobody ever said soul music is the problem.
 
Flawless said:
because hip hop is the reason why so many blak folks lived in projects and were introduced to crack right?
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no, because hip hop glorifies those idiots who have decided that it is ok to continue to live in projects while slanging crack to to their brethren.
 
I had to do a "MAYBE" on this one.

Growing up in Da Bronx and Harlem and seeing the evolution of Hip-Hop from they mid-70s on, it was like witnessing a newer label of Black Creativity.

But somewhere in the late 80s, the music started losing its way.

Now one could say this about all music in general. But when Black folks have been behind practically every musical genre in this country, with creativity duplicated, but unmatched, it's like Hip-Hop/Rap has destroyed any sense of music creativity we have. We know longer have a cadre of people studying and playing instuments, starting bands, being mentally challenged by musical theory, etc.

Thanks to Hip-Hop/Rap,
We've taken the easy way out creatively.

And don't get me started on what this "music" has don't to our community socially.

Pathological shit's never happened with Blues, Jazz, R&B, Rock & Roll, Soul, Funk, etc.

All you had with those genres were a bunch of folks getting high and doing personal silly shit.
Not destroying a community in the process.
 
The social oriented style of the 80s and early 90s; no
This modern form of childish jibberish; yes
 
Leeeeeee said:

no, because hip hop glorifies those idiots who have decided that it is ok to continue to live in projects while slanging crack to to their brethren.
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and if wasnt hiphop it would of been that big hair tight leather pants glam rock shit that was so popular in the 80 and early 90's
 

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