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Back when Stan was writing shit the only ones coming close to Banner were Reed and Doom. Dude made the most powerful bomb in the world, an indestructible robot, a time-gun, etc, etc.

For years they said that the only thing holding him back from further scientific research was constantly turning into the Hulk and being on the run. Obviously that's no longer a problem.

As for his attitude, it's not actually new. Years ago Doc Samson merged the Banner, Savage Hulk and Gray Hulk's personalities together because he realized that they were all fractions. We'd never actually dealt with the REAL Bruce Banner. The result of that Merger was the Merged Hulk who was insanely confident.

A lot of people think Pak is pulling this shit out of his ass, but his depiction of Hulk and Banner is actually continuing from where Peter David left off.

I can't agree with that. The gamma bomb was a failed project.

Pak is not pulling it out of his ass - He's taking it from the Ultimate U.

The way Banner was talking in the last issue...was not only non-cannon it was derived from too many sources to say this is character progression. It's just what the writer wanted to do period. Not the steps the character would take.
 
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I can't agree with that. The gamma bomb was a failed project.

Pak is not pulling it out of his ass - He's taking it from the Ultimate U.

The way Banner was talking in the last issue...was not only non-cannon it was derived from too many sources to say this is character progression. It's just what the writer wanted to do period. Not the steps the character would take.
:hmm: ummmm :dunno: call me crazy but - isn't the fact that Bruce Banner turning into the Hulk proof that the gamma bomb - kinda sorta - did work?
 
:hmm: ummmm :dunno: call me crazy but - isn't the fact that Bruce Banner turning into the Hulk proof that the gamma bomb - kinda sorta - did work?

The bomb was meant to be more destructive than the atomic/nuclear bomb.

General Ross lost funding and clout in the military because of the failure of it all.

He tried to recover funding and face into a program that would test gamma radiation but none of the test subjects were as successful as Bruce Banner.

So no it was not a success.

There is a "What if" where Bruce Banner did not become The Hulk...they dropped that bomb on Vietnam...and it made 1000 citizens Hulks....So yeah it was a fail. If it was not a fail....General Ross would have no reason to go after The Hulk.
 
I can't agree with that. The gamma bomb was a failed project.

Pak is not pulling it out of his ass - He's taking it from the Ultimate U.

The way Banner was talking in the last issue...was not only non-cannon it was derived from too many sources to say this is character progression. It's just what the writer wanted to do period. Not the steps the character would take.

Homie, the Gamma Bomb wasn't a failed project at all. Shield started mass producing them until they had 5,000 laying around. See the Ground Zero storyline.

General Ross was the army's point man for years. He didn't lose clout (and a star) until much later and that was for failing to capture the Hulk.

And if how Banner was talking was derived from many sources, then how could it be non-canon? Like I said, there's no difference between this Banner and the Merged Hulk.

If you're not feeling this direction then that's cool, but it's not being made up, and it's definitely not the Ultimates version. It's the continued progression of the character based on Peter David's run who's regarded as one of the Hul;k's definitive writers.
 
Homie, the Gamma Bomb wasn't a failed project at all. Shield started mass producing them until they had 5,000 laying around. See the Ground Zero storyline.

General Ross was the army's point man for years. He didn't lose clout (and a star) until much later and that was for failing to capture the Hulk.

And if how Banner was talking was derived from many sources, then how could it be non-canon? Like I said, there's no difference between this Banner and the Merged Hulk.

If you're not feeling this direction then that's cool, but it's not being made up, and it's definitely not the Ultimates version. It's the continued progression of the character based on Peter David's run who's regarded as one of the Hul;k's definitive writers.

Would have been nice if this new Hulk would have been around during "Countdown" - Leader and Abomination were running laps on him and as Banner he was never ready...he was lucky in the end to get what he needed to live.
 
Would have been nice if this new Hulk would have been around during "Countdown" - Leader and Abomination were running laps on him and as Banner he was never ready...he was lucky in the end to get what he needed to live.

Even with Banner operating at 100% he shouldn't be seeing the Leader. I always felt that the Leader should be the smartest man in the MU, but since no one else uses him he's just stuck as a Hulk villain instead of a major league like Doom.
 
Even with Banner operating at 100% he shouldn't be seeing the Leader. I always felt that the Leader should be the smartest man in the MU, but since no one else uses him he's just stuck as a Hulk villain instead of a major league like Doom.
Co-sign - I thought his whole schtick was his(Leader's) intellect and genuis was supposed to match the Hulk's brute strength.
 
Co-sign - I thought his whole schtick was his(Leader's) intellect and genuis was supposed to match the Hulk's brute strength.

Nope he just got a big head and a big ego.

Just because he called himself the leader don't make him one.

I prefer him with his popcorn braids though.
 
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first they put wolverine in a hulk fight, now this?

ARE THEY FUCKING SERIOUS?

I haven't read this yet, but, the cover wreaks of fanboy bullshit!
 
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:hmm: :hmm: :hmm:
:smh:

REALLY........... HONESTLY:smh:?!?

COM - DA :angry::angry: FUK - ON!!!




ok - I might could buy this back when Thor was human during the Onslaught saga - but :hmm: GTFOH
 
Full List of Releases for Wednesday, October 28, 2009:

Marvel Comics

Amazing Spider-Man Presents Anti Venom New Ways To Live #2 (of 3)
Anita Blake Laughing Corpse Executioner #1 (of 5)
Avengers Initiative #29
Dark Avengers Ares #1 (of 3)
Dark Reign The List Daredevil (One Shot)
Dark Reign The List Wolverine (One Shot)
Dark Reign Young Avengers #5 (of 5) [DR]
Enders Shadow Command School #2 (of 5)
Fantastic Four #572
Guardians Of The Galaxy #19
Halo Helljumper #4 (of 5)
Hulk #16
Incredible Hercules #137
Marvel Adventures Spider-Man #56
Marvel Divas #4 (of 4)
Marvel Holiday Spectacular 2009
Marvel Previews #75 (November 2009)
Models Inc #3 (of 4)
Ms Marvel #46
New Avengers #58
New Mutants #6
Nova #30
Punisher #10
Riftwar #5 (of 5)
Secret Warriors #9
Son Of Hulk #16
Spider-Man Clone Saga #2 (of 6)
Spin Angels #3 (of 4)
Ultimate Comics Armor Wars #2 (of 4)
Ultimate Comics Avengers #3
Vengeance Of The Moon Knight #1 (David Finch Second Printing Sketch Variant)
War Machine #10 [DR]
Wolverine Art Appreciation (One Shot)
Wolverine First Class #20
Wolverine Weapon X #6
X Necrosha (One Shot)
X-Factor #50
X-Force #20
X-Men Forever #10

DC COMICS
Ambush Bug Year None #7 (of 6) (replaces issue 6)
Arkham Reborn #1 (of 3) (Frazer Irving Regular Cover)
Arkham Reborn #1 (of 3) (Jeremy Haun Variant Cover)
Batman #692
Batman The Brave And The Bold #10
Batman The Killing Joke (New Printing)
Billy Batson And The Magic Of SHAZAM #9
Blackest Night #4 (of 8)
Blackest Night Titans #3 (of 3)
Detective Comics #858
Final Crisis Aftermath Ink #6 (of 6)
Gen 13 #32 (Recolored Logo Edition with corrected printing)
Gotham City Sirens #5
Green Lantern #47
Justice Society Of America #32
Last Days Of Animal Man #6 (of 6)
Superman #693
Superman Secret Origin #2 (of 6)
Teen Titans #76
Web #2
Wonder Woman #37
Worlds Finest #1 (of 4)

Vertigo
Jack Of Fables #39
Madame Xanadu #16
Northlanders #21
Unknown Soldier #13

Wildstorm
Astro City Astra Special #2 (of 2)
Freddy Vs Jason Vs Ash The Nightmare Warriors #5 (of 6)
Killapalooza #6 (of 6)
Starcraft #5
Wildcats #16

IMAGE COMICS
Dynamo 5 #25
Invincible Presents Atom Eve & Rex Splode #1 (of 3)
Pilot Season Declassified

AVATAR PRESS
Absolution #0 (Of 6) (SDCC Edition)
Anna Mercury 2 #1 (Of 5) (SDCC Edition)
Anna Mercury Artbook #1 (SDCC Edition)
Crossed #6 (Of 9) (SDCC Edition)
Freakangels Vol 3 HC
Freakangels Vol 3 TP
Ignition City #1 (Of 5) (SDCC Edition)
Ignition City #4 (Of 5)(Auxiliary Edition)
Ignition City #5 (of 5)
Warren Ellis Frankensteins Womb GN (Con Edition)

BOOM! STUDIOS
28 Days Later #1 (Sean Phillips "Blood Red" Wraparound Second Printing Cover)
Die Hard Year One #2
Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep #5 (Of 24)
Hunters Fortune #1 (Of 4)
Irredeemable #6 (2nd Printing)
Muppet Peter Pan #2

DARK HORSE
Abe Sapien (One Shot Wonders)
Groo The Hogs of Horder #1 (of 4)
Predator #3 (of 4)
Star Wars Legacy #41 (Rogue's End)

DYNAMITE ENTERTAINMENT
Boys #1 (Dynamite Edition)
Buck Rogers #5 (John Cassaday Cover)
Buck Rogers #5 (Carlos Rafael Cover)
Queen Sonja #1

IDW PUBLISHING
Clive Barkers Seduth 3-D #1 (Clive Barker Signed Incentive Cover)
Jennifer Love Hewitts Music Box #1

AAM MARKOSIA
Serpent Wars GN

AMAZE INK/SLAVE LABOR GRAPHICS
Pinocchio Vampire Slayer GN
Rockpool Files GN
Weird Fishes GN

ANTARCTIC PRESS
Gold Digger #111
Gold Digger Peebo Tales Special #6
Gold Digger Tech Manual #8

ARCHAIA STUDIOS PRESS
Days Missing #3 (Of 5)

ARCHIE COMICS
Archie Double Digest #203
Betty & Veronica #244

ARDDEN ENTERTAINMENT
Casper & The Spectrals #1

ASPEN ENTERTAINMENT
Aspen Showcase Kiani

AURORA PUBLISHING
Queen Of Ragtonia GN

BLOOMSBURY
Secret Science Alliance GN

BLUEWATER PRODUCTIONS
First Family Obamas (One Shot)
Legend Of Isis #5
Tom Corbett Space Cadet #1
Tribute Michael Jackson King Of Pop (One Shot)
Vincent Price Presents Special Tingler #1 (of 2)

BONGO COMICS
Bart Simpson Comics #50
Simpsons Classics #22

COMIC SHOP NEWS
Comic Shop News #1167

DEVILS DUE PUBLISHING
Hack Slash #27
Spartacus Blood And Sand #1 (Of 4)

DRAWN & QUARTERLY
Key Moments From The History Of Comics SC
Map Of My Heart GN
Red Snow HC

HYPERION BOOKS
Artemis Fowl Vol 2 Arctic Incident GN

JOYFUL STORIES PRESS
Obama Story GN

NBM
Vatican Hustle GN

PAPERCUTZ
Tales From The Crypt Vol 8 Diary Of A Stinky Dead Kid GN

RADICAL COMICS
FVZA #1 (of 3)

WIZARD ENTERTAINMENT
Wizard Funfare Magazine Holiday Edition
Wizard Magazine #218

ZENESCOPE ENTERTAINMENT
Grimm Fairy Tales Halloween Special 2009
Tales From Wonderland Mad Hatter #2 (of 2)
 
X-Men Spider-Man - Savage Land (2002)

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Green Lantern 47


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The Lone Ranger & Tonto 1-3 (2008-09)

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Wonder Woman 37


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