Black Nationalism: There is no peaceful solution

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"The white man is absolutely disagreeable to get along with in peace."

 

[Penancestare]

Note: AFRICAN-AMERICAN nationalism is a lost cause because there is no mass unity.

 

[gonzo8402]

Note: AFRICAN-AMERICAN nationalism is a lost cause because there is no mass unity.

That's probably true.


There are too many sub-cultures and goals from African-Americans...but then again, the same could be said for Hispanics.


I was just watching a Celia Cruz special on pbs and was feeling black and proud.

 

[owl]

Note: AFRICAN-AMERICAN nationalism is a lost cause because there is no mass unity.

Although the argument has always been that the mainland America is too vast for a successful irregular armed conflict, Castro was able to seize the soil, and that was against an american financed administration. His people were no more unified behind him in the beginning than ours would be.

 

[Sampson]

What I said in another thread.

Black people have healthy paranoia when it comes to the temperament and mental stability of white people. Old people who turn sambo were probably sambos all their lives or just black people who had children and got tired of trying to fight whitey and just bowed down into a peaceful existence with Jesus.

Black people are covering themselves in the flags because they are trying to hide their black pride in white nationalism. Especially in government/corporate jobs.



White people didnt like all that black power shit so black people had 2 learn a deceptive tactic which involved practicing black upliftment at home while carrying on American nationalism to the public.

 

[owl]

What I said in another thread.

Yeah, I remember that vividly...I would say that is the game plan. I can't remember which organization it was, but the leadership would recruit the more resourceful youngster through churches, indoctrinate them in the back rooms of the sunday school...

 

[Imhotep]

Good post

Official BGOL prawn​

 

[sean69]

What I said in another thread.

Black people have healthy paranoia when it comes to the temperament and mental stability of white people. Old people who turn sambo were probably sambos all their lives or just black people who had children and got tired of trying to fight whitey and just bowed down into a peaceful existence with Jesus.

Black people are covering themselves in the flags because they are trying to hide their black pride in white nationalism. Especially in government/corporate jobs.

White people didnt like all that black power shit so black people had 2 learn a deceptive tactic which involved practicing black upliftment at home while carrying on American nationalism to the public.


^^^^

Couldn't have put it any better.

Especially the bolded.

I guess that's what explains the mentality of so-called "African-Americans" and African immigrants in America joining and/or expressing solidarity for the military - as an extreme case.

Don't get me wrong, I understand the confounding socioeconomic constraints and all, but still.

Interesting post Gonz.

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[Imhotep]

Black people have healthy paranoia when it comes to the temperament and mental stability of white people. Old people who turn sambo were probably sambos all their lives or just black people who had children and got tired of trying to fight whitey and just bowed down into a peaceful existence with Jesus.

Black people are covering themselves in the flags because they are trying to hide their black pride in white nationalism. Especially in government/corporate jobs.

White people didnt like all that black power shit so black people had 2 learn a deceptive tactic which involved practicing black upliftment at home while carrying on American nationalism to the public.


^^^^

Couldn't have put it any better.

Especially the bolded.

I guess that's what explains the mentality of so-called "African-Americans" and African immigrants in America joining and/or expressing solidarity for the military - as an extreme case.

Don't get me wrong, I understand the confounding socioeconomic constraints and all, but still.

Interesting post Gonz.

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I believe early African also hide their African religious beliefs, under the guise of Catholicism aka Voodoo.

Capoeira is a fighting style disguised as a dance.

My point is, people (oppressed) will hold fast to the brief of their forefathers. But will hide it from the masses just to survive.

 

[owl]

I believe early African also hide their African religious beliefs, under the guise of Catholicism aka Voodoo.

Capoeira is a fighting style disguised as a dance.

My point is, people (oppressed) will hold fast to the brief of their forefathers. But will hide it from the masses just to survive.

Hmmm....interesting hypothesis...you got any more examples to support it?

 

[sean69]

I believe early African also hide their African religious beliefs, under the guise of Catholicism aka Voodoo.

Capoeira is a fighting style disguised as a dance.

My point is, people (oppressed) will hold fast to the brief of their forefathers. But will hide it from the masses just to survive.

Precisely. Yes ...yes ... indeed.

* puffs smoke rings out of pipe ... removes spectacles, breathes on them and wipes with my tie and puts them back on*

Of course, as modulated by the "pop"ularity of the prevailing status quo. A quite ubiquitous behaviour it is.
And galvanizing ... A primal and innate proclivity to belong to a society or group.

Akin to recent ...


nvm.


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[owl]

Precisely. Yes ...yes ... indeed.

* puffs smoke rings out of pipe ... removes spectacles, breathes on them and wipes with my tie and puts them back on*

Of course, as modulated by the "pop"ularity of the prevailing status quo. A quite ubiquitous behaviour it is.
And galvanizing ... A primal and innate proclivity to belong to a society or group.

Akin to recent ...


nvm.


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Even with that being said, there should be an atavistic return to the hidden cultural artifice, especially if it is hidden, i.e. a suppressed behavior. We see this white culture, the tomes on aggressive antisocial behavior demonstrated by them shouldn't ever need citation.

 

[Imhotep]

Hmmm....interesting hypothesis...you got any more examples to support it?

capoeira

The law that prohibited the practice of capoeira was still effect until 1920, and its practice disguised as a "folk dance." In their hidden places, capoeiristas did their best to keep the tradition alive, and by presenting it as a folk art, they made the practice of capoeira more acceptable to the society.

Source
http://www.capoeira.htmlplanet.com/capoeira_hist.htm
http://www.ithaca.edu/capoeira/pages/history.html

Voodoo

The slave population soon began to mask their rituals and beliefs in Catholicism. It is the conglomeration and syncretism of these diverse cultural belief systems that comprised the first Creole religion and makes Voodoo what it is today.

http://www.mysticvoodoo.com/history-of-voodoo.htm
http://www.templex.org/Voodoo/voodoo_history.htm

Finally

The art of hiding in plain sight which states

Use the environment to your advantage. If you are near a crowd, move to it and stay with it. You will seem less obvious in a group i.e Black people are covering themselves in the flags because they are trying to hide their black pride in white nationalism. Especially in government/corporate jobs.

 

[Imhotep]

Akin to recent ...


nvm.

 

[sean69]

Even with that being said, there should be an atavistic return to the hidden cultural artifice, especially if it is hidden, i.e. a suppressed behavior. We see this white culture, the tomes on aggressive antisocial behavior demonstrated by them shouldn't ever need citation.

Reliance on vestigial antiquities is tantamount to rockin' a #33 Tony Dorsset throw-back jersey trying to run routes you know damn well you aint built for.
Don't have a fucki' clue what this has to do with antisocial behaviour that you attribute exclusively to CACs.

Shit. Hold on.

*puts on spectacles and grabs pipe*


The notion that some (obsolete) "Lamarckian" type recapitulation of your so-called "hidden cultural artifice" is even probable let alone feasible given the present generation of "blacks" is quite absurd.

*taps off ashes from pipe*


Preposterous even.

Your frivolous dismissal of "suppressed behavior" is also rather ironic.

Very well.

*signals butler...*


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[sean69]

... to recent activities on SOL and BGOL in the after math of the 9-1 attacks. Attacks on our freedom! You know, flag waving, bringing the "BGOL-nation" together in the face of adversity, the resiliency of the "economy" blah blah blah.
Don't worry, collective A.D.D. characteristic of historic events like this will take over soon ...


da fuck am i even talking about. Da fuck am i even awake. I'm going to iHop. Later.

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[Imhotep]

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Don't worry, collective A.D.D. characteristic of historic events like this will take over soon ...

 

[owl]

Sean is a fool man...lol...LLAM!!!...eh...


More colloquially...

White people express their ancient behaviors even under the rule of law. Which is, not analogous to the oppression of slavery, yet arguably very much a form of control.

White privilege is not enough to explain Dahmer or Columbine. My question is if it is suppressed, and I can agree that it was, and other people from different cultures show signs of their "suppressed" cultural norms, then when do blacks? Music? Athletics?


We built the first civilizations nina popping?

 

[sean69]

Sean is a fool man...lol...LLAM!!!...eh...


More colloquially...

White people express their ancient behaviors even under the rule of law. Which is, not analogous to the oppression of slavery, yet arguably very much a form of control.

White privilege is not enough to explain Dahmer or Columbine. My question is if it is suppressed, and I can agree that it was, and other people from different cultures show signs of their "suppressed" cultural norms, then when do blacks? Music? Athletics?


We built the first civilizations nina popping?

I feel where you're coming from.

I don't know. Maybe it's just me, but the more and more I see this (predominant) western view of civilization evolve and the more "our people" continue to imbibe it's tenets and suscribe to its "shake-and-bake" offerings, the more I lose hope ... wait ... let me rephrase ... the more it feeds my skepticism of any hope of recapitulation, like I said earlier.

As much as I have copious disdain for the shenenigans of CACs (remember CAC is not a synonym for "whites". It's the acronym it describes) the "suppressed" vestigous ancient behaviour you allude to, IMO, isn't exclusive to them alone.

Virtues are more easily suppressed than vices especially when the reward is worthless? As per our social evolution?

Make intuitive sense to me.


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[owl]

I feel where you're coming from.

I don't know. Maybe it's just me, but the more and more I see this (predominant) western view of civilization evolve and the more "our people" continue to imbibe it's tenets and suscribe to its "shake-and-bake" offerings, the more I lose hope ... wait ... let me rephrase ... the more it feeds my skepticism of any hope of recapitulation, like I said earlier.

As much as I have copious disdain for the shenenigans of CACs (remember CAC is not a synonym for "whites". It's the acronym it describes) the "suppressed" vestigous ancient behaviour you allude to, IMO, isn't exclusive to them alone.

Virtues are more easily suppressed than vices especially when the reward is worthless? As per our social evolution?

Make intuitive sense to me.


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No doubt, extremely mathematic.

I'm going to hate saying this on this side, but as a collective, we have become too much like the stereotyped housewife who simply wants what her girlfriend at work has, or the chick she gossips about across the street. All the dudes we lost in that "thug" phase, meant nothing, no wins. A few got paid, but we can't expect any of that to trickle down accordingly. And unfortunately, our scientist still aren't recognized, so of course they are going to fall in line with the camp that can secure them meritocratic rewards, the lower level of them anyway(I just thought about "SKIP").

Laughter.

 

[sean69]

Yep.

The "exclusive class" mentality and posturing ... which I really think is just an inferiority complex smoke screen. I see this a lot with quite a few of the (very vey few) black professional colleagues of mine.
And just like the black bourgeoisie, caught in the same wierd socio ... something limbo. Then the cut-throat quest of credentials and accolade sets in.

Ok, so check this out. I put out an add for 1-on-1 private tutoring in chemistry and get several responses. $80/hr. Reasonable in these parts. But I notice that all the students I have so far are non-black.
So I'm eating pineapple and butter sandwich for breakfast a few days later and it hits me like a ton of bricks.

I locate the nearest community rec. center and offer to tutor our kids, exclusively, for free. Free. No fee. Should be a no brainer right? Locked and loaded, let's go, it's a wrap right?

Wrong.

Still jumping hurdles and useless rubbish because the director of the center has a some kind of "but you're not a prue-breed" complex.


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