Interesting Stats: Ron Artest's Defensive stats VS Lebron, Carmelo, Pierce, Wade etc.

[massdagod]

I know bball season is over but I came across this earlier....

BLACK = Regular game Stats average
RED = Stats average against Ron Artest
by Jordan-esque
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LEBRON JAMES
Record 3W - 7L
PTS 27.5 -- FG% .471 -- 3P% .328 -- FTA 8.8 -- REB 7.0 -- AST 6.7 -- TOV 3.3
PTS 24.6 -- FG% .447 -- 3P% .231 -- FTA 7.1 -- REB 5.8 -- AST 5.3 -- TOV 5.1

CARMELO ANTHONY
Record 5W - 7L
PTS 24.2 -- FG% .460 -- 3P% .307 -- FTA 7.7 -- REB 6.1 -- AST 3.1 -- TOV 3.1
PTS 19.9 -- FG% .411 -- 3P% .250 -- FTA 4.8 -- REB 5.4 -- AST 2.3 -- TOV 3.2

DWYANE WADE
Record 2W - 6L
PTS 25.2 -- FG% .483 -- 3P% .285 -- FTA 9.3 -- REB 4.9 -- AST 6.7 -- TOV 3.8
PTS 23.1 -- FG% .467 -- 3P% .188 -- FTA 9.3 -- REB 5.4 -- AST 6.8 -- TOV 4.9

BRANDON ROY
Record 4W - 5L
PTS 19.8 -- FG%.465 -- 3P% .363 -- FTA 5.4 -- REB 4.6 -- AST 5.1 -- TOV 1.9
PTS 17.4 -- FG% .415 -- 3P% .278 -- FTA 3.7 -- RPG 5.1 -- AST 5.3 -- TOV 2.7

VINCE CARTER
Record 9W - 11L
PTS 23.5 -- FG% .447 -- 3P% .376 -- FTA 6.0 -- REB 5.5 -- AST 4.3 -- TOV 2.4
PTS 20.4 -- FG% .479 -- 3P% .455 -- FTA 4.2 -- RPG 4.2 -- AST 4.0 -- TOV 2.8

PAUL PIERCE
Record 9W - 10L
PTS 22.9 -- FG% .443 -- 3P% .366 -- FTA 7.8 -- REB 6.3 -- AST 3.9 -- TOV 3.1
PTS 21.3 -- FG% .436 -- 3P% .393 -- FTA 7.1 -- REB 5.8 -- AST 3.9 -- TOV 3.4

Records are the player's Head-to-Head W/L team record going up against Artest.

Worth noting are the lower PTS (points), FG% (field goal %), FTA (free throw attempts), and the higher TOV (turnovers).

This doesn't necessarily mean that Artest was guarding these players every single minute of the whole game, it is however a visual tool to see the on-going trend that these players average when they go up against a team with Artest.

Looking at the numbers, Artest seems uniquely successful guarding these players, holding a Head-to-Head team win record against them all: 46W - 32L; that's almost a 60% win percentage.

These players are: all down their PTS average -- most below their FG% -- all below their FTA per game -- with a pretty high TOV rate.

James stats across the board from PTS, AST, REB, FG%, 3P%, and even FTA are notably lower than his average, most especially the fact that he struggles with TOV against Artest, practically turning the ball over more so than his average - almost a whopping 2 turnovers more per game. Most striking is his 7L record compared to only 3W.

Anthony seems to be struggling too, and doesn't look to be getting to the charity stripe too often when Artest is on him, from 7.7 FTA down to 4.8 FTA while scoring 5 points less per game, not to mention, scoring them at a lower FG%.

Wade on the other hand, has his PTS and FG% down, yet still finds a way to get to the free throw line, averaging exactly the same 9.3 FTA per game.

Roy has found it difficult to consistently find his shooting touch against Artest, with both FG% and 3P% down almost 4% and 9% respectively.

Carter is the only player with a higher FG% than his norm. Also telling is that Carter's 3P% gets a big boost, while his FTA are down nearly a good 2 attempts per game, implying he likely depends on the mid to long range perimeter shot to get his points against Artest, instead of driving it to the paint and to the free throw line.

Pierce seems to be the only player not too overly affected. His stats against Artest are a little lower, but still consistent with his regular average.

For the sake of fun, here's Artest's numbers comparison against Bryant:

KOBE BRYANT:
Record 15W - 5L
PTS 25.1 -- FG% .455 -- 3P% .341 -- FTA 7.7 -- REB 5.3 -- AST 4.6 -- TOV 2.9
PTS 27.6 -- FG% .481 -- 3P% .408 -- FTA 8.4 -- REB 5.7 -- AST 6.1 -- TOV 3.6

Bryant seems to be the only one with a winning Head-to-Head team record against Artest, as well higher stats across the board with PTS, FTA, FG%, and 3P% average. Yikes! A Black Mamba indeed.

proof that Kobe >>>>> the league? I think so..

 

[Jumbodicc]

Re: Interesting Stats: Ron Artest's Defensive stats VS Lebron, Carmelo, Pierce, Wade

 

[gumbottoms]

Re: Interesting Stats: Ron Artest's Defensive stats VS Lebron, Carmelo, Pierce, Wade

LMAO!! You Kobe boys crack me up. Isnt it enough knowing Kobe is a top 3 player in the world?

Other than Kobe, Paul Pierce is the only one playing on a top level team. Meaning a team with multiple scoring options. If your by far the best on your team like most of these guys the defense is geared toward stopping you. When teams play the lakers they have to respect players like Gasol and Odom.

What site did you get this from Ive always wondered if there was a site that had stats broken down like this.

 

[stickmanX]

Re: Interesting Stats: Ron Artest's Defensive stats VS Lebron, Carmelo, Pierce, Wade

u would probably let kobe fuck u in the ass if he asked wouldnt u? get off his dick stan!

 

[concepts25]

Re: Interesting Stats: Ron Artest's Defensive stats VS Lebron, Carmelo, Pierce, Wade

LMAO!! You Kobe boys crack me up. Isnt it enough knowing Kobe is a top 3 player in the world?

Other than Kobe, Paul Pierce is the only one playing on a top level team. Meaning a team with multiple scoring options. If your by far the best on your team like most of these guys the defense is geared toward stopping you. When teams play the lakers they have to respect players like Gasol and Odom.

What site did you get this from Ive always wondered if there was a site that had stats broken down like this.

at you saying kobe isn't the best player in the league right now , u lost all your credibility there buddy

 

[massdagod]

Re: Interesting Stats: Ron Artest's Defensive stats VS Lebron, Carmelo, Pierce, Wade

LMAO!! You Kobe boys crack me up. Isnt it enough knowing Kobe is a top 3 player in the world?

Other than Kobe, Paul Pierce is the only one playing on a top level team. Meaning a team with multiple scoring options. If your by far the best on your team like most of these guys the defense is geared toward stopping you. When teams play the lakers they have to respect players like Gasol and Odom.

What site did you get this from Ive always wondered if there was a site that had stats broken down like this.

Its funny cuz when kobe was "By HIMSELF" from 05 to 07 and he was toasting artest w/ a 50 point game and a 40+ triple dub and a host of other impressive performances, the excuse would be "well well bu..but but..kobe's on a team by himself.. so Of COURSE he gonna toast him"

ROFL!! haters are funny...

 

[Ming Fei Hong]

Re: Interesting Stats: Ron Artest's Defensive stats VS Lebron, Carmelo, Pierce, Wade

LMAO!! You Kobe boys crack me up. Isnt it enough knowing Kobe is a top 3 player in the world?

How many rings do the other 2 players in that top 3 have? And which of that top 3 is the reigning champ.

 

[Punch]

Re: Interesting Stats: Ron Artest's Defensive stats VS Lebron, Carmelo, Pierce, Wade

Artest didnt 1 on 1 Kobe exclusively...dont forget that mean ass elbow against Battier dome-piece

 

[massdagod]

Re: Interesting Stats: Ron Artest's Defensive stats VS Lebron, Carmelo, Pierce, Wade

u would probably let kobe fuck u in the ass if he asked wouldnt u? get off his dick stan!

posting your gay fantasies and shit like this wont make me stop posting pro-kobe/lakers posts...

the real question is, why are u imagining another man butt fucking another man.. are u gay?


thats some sad sick shit...u too old to be thinking and saying shit like that.

and its funny, the person who made the original post is the biggest jordan stan (or should i say cock-gobbler to make ur gay ass more comfortable) on the internet... get mad @ him for making it... not me for posting it.



thanks and have a good day.

 

[gumbottoms]

Re: Interesting Stats: Ron Artest's Defensive stats VS Lebron, Carmelo, Pierce, Wade

at you saying kobe isn't the best player in the league right now , u lost all your credibility there buddy

That's where your wrong! I do think Kobe is the best player in the league. But the fact that you would post this during the month of August shows you how on his nuts you are. You have to stand up for him even during the offseason.

Is there ever a time your not thinking about Kobe?

 

[Complex]

Re: Interesting Stats: Ron Artest's Defensive stats VS Lebron, Carmelo, Pierce, Wade

Thanks for the info

 

[UltimateLurker]

Re: Interesting Stats: Ron Artest's Defensive stats VS Lebron, Carmelo, Pierce, Wade

 

[Jazzy1]

Re: Interesting Stats: Ron Artest's Defensive stats VS Lebron, Carmelo, Pierce, Wade

this shows me a couple things the Rockets were smart having Battier guard Kobe instead of Artest.

and it shows how good Artest is against every other great player in the league not named Kobe and how much trouble those guys are gonna have playing the Lakers now.

saw this posted on a Lakers board yesterday wasn't gonna post it was gonna hold it till bball season to clown the haters with when they started up with the Artest ain't gonna do all that for the Lakers. lol

 

[RoadRage]

Re: Interesting Stats: Ron Artest's Defensive stats VS Lebron, Carmelo, Pierce, Wade

Not saying who is the best, but your logic is far from being close to logical! Now if you were to make the argument that Kobe is the best vs Artest, then sure you may have a valid point, but to say just because Kobe is better vs Artest, he must be the best vs the league is another story!
Food for thought, you can randomly find players who Wade puts up better numbers against, and players that James and Pierce and who ever are better against, and their number would be no more proof than Kobes numbers vs Artest! Fact is, just because you are the best, doesn't mean you put up the best numbers against every single player!
Logic 101 class is over, so yall can go back to sleep now!

 

[TimRock]

Re: Interesting Stats: Ron Artest's Defensive stats VS Lebron, Carmelo, Pierce, Wade

good info