Leaders vs. Followers..which one are you..add on more if you understand...

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When leaders make a mistake, they say, "I was wrong."
When followers make mistakes, they say, "It wasn't my fault."

A leader works harder than a follower and has more time;
a follower is always "too busy" to do what is necessary.

A leader goes through a problem;
a follower goes around it and never gets past it.

A leader makes and keeps commitments;
a follower makes and forgets promises.

A leader says, "I'm good, but not as good as I ought to be;"
a follower says, "I'm not as bad as a lot of other people."

Leaders listen;
followers just wait until it's their turn to talk.

Leaders respect those who are superior to them and tries to learn something from them;
followers resent those who are superior to them and try to find chinks in their armor.

Leaders feel responsibile for more than their job;
followers say, "I only work here."

A leader says, "There ought to be a better way to do this;"
followers say, "That's the way it's always been done here."

 

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Believing the “Experts”:

People prefer to trust the judgment of an “Expert.” They are afraid to trust their own judgment. That’s why people trust doctors for the treatment of their diseases, they trust ministers for their salvation, they trust newspapers and television for their knowledge of the “News”, and they trust their President or Prime Minister for their political and economic stability as well as their safety from attacks from other nations

 

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Economic Consumption:

Large corporations spend millions of dollars for a few 60-second commercials during the Super Bowl. Why? Because these commercials work! Repetitive commercials effectively change the thinking of those who see them. The New World Order Illuminati, in their training manual for new recruits, entitled “Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars,” detail their plans to subjugate the population of the earth in order to rule the world. In the section “Introduction To Economic Amplifiers” they state:

“If a person is spoken to by a T.V. advertiser as if he were a twelve year old, then, due to suggestibility, he will, with a certain probability, respond or react to that suggestion with the uncritical response of a twelve year old and will reach into his economic reservoir (wallet) and deliver its energy (money) to buy that product on impulse when he passes it in the store.”

 

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God is Looking for “Followers”!
God Refers to Humanity as Sheep

Repeatedly, in the Bible, Jesus speaks of His followers as sheep! Thirty-two times in the New Testament, Jesus refers to us as “sheep” and nine times He refers to Himself as “the Shepherd.” At least nineteen times in the Bible, Jesus says “Follow Me.” And He did not instruct Peter to “Lead My sheep” but to “Feed My Sheep.” (John 21:16,17)

Never once did Jesus tell His followers to become “Leaders.” The idea of developing, or becoming, “Leaders” is a fraud perpetrated by the Organized Church!

Jesus built into EVERY human being the desire to be led, the desire to be a follower, the desire to be taken care of from the cradle to the grave! That’s EXACTLY how God wants us to be. He made “following” the central theme of our very existence - to be “taken care of” - to be a “follower” and NOT a leader - to be totally dependent! It is a GOOD characteristic - NOT a bad one. God does NOT want us to be “Leaders”!

But WHO are we to “follow”?

 

[PoppaSo]

The LORD will make you the head, not the tail. If you pay attention to the commands of the LORD your God that I give you this day and carefully follow them, you will always be at the top, never at the bottom—Deuteronomy 28:13

 

[thismybgolname]

I'm a leader no doubt however when I'm @ my corporate job you can peg me as a follower.

I've been screwed over so many times by corporate america that I say fuck it, tell me what you want me to do and I will do it better than 95-98% of your employees without even trying but don't expect shit else from me.

Fuck you, I'm here for the hours & the benefits.

Working on my own shit so the day the doors close I can say kiss my ass, where is my severance.

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

anybody who is religious are followers

 

[Real2DaC0re]

The LORD will make you the head, not the tail. If you pay attention to the commands of the LORD your God that I give you this day and carefully follow them, you will always be at the top, never at the bottom—Deuteronomy 28:13

good drop!!

anybody who is religious are followers

and anyone who believes in nothing is nothing.

 

[RoadRage]

Always been a leader, even when I didn't want to be one! To be honest, its what kept my black ass alive all of these years!

 

[ugk]

You're a spic, that's not on the list.

 

[Les W]

To those aspiring to be leaders I would advise you to learn to lead yourself before you look for followers or try to lead. If you can't follow your own will and direction, only those far below you will ever follow you.

Also, TRUE leadership is not a position of authority it is kind of a service.

To be honest, I am a follower but in a good sense tho, I see me like I am a master in training. I am not just following blindly. I am actually looking for "teachers/leaders" all the time.

I also try to get everyone in my circle to become leaders themselves, in 5 years I am gonna see only Bosses in my quorum if you can dig it...

But I be on my own plane

Never once did Jesus tell His followers to become “Leaders.” The idea of developing, or becoming, “Leaders” is a fraud perpetrated by the Organized Church!

"In hoc signo vinces" Constantine said he saw phrase "in this sign we conquer" this on a cross in a dream, when you realize the origin of democracy/capitalism you how prophetic it was

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

and anyone who believes in nothing is nothing.

atleast we dont need fairy tales too tell us how to live our lives every single day

 

[Les W]

and anyone who believes in nothing is nothing.

I get what you are trying to say, but this makes absolutely no sense on a few different but interesting levels

btw who said that he didn't believe in anything? Jesus ain't the only game in town you know

 

[Perplex]

im a leader and a follower in certain situations.

cats gotta understand that there will always be a better man for the job. at work sometimes i might feel like im the best leader in a situation, but if i feel another has better input to contribute, i know to follow him. u gotta have wisdom to understand when and when not to be a leader and a follower. everyone should be both

 

[TMNTnigg]

Also, TRUE leadership is not a position of authority it is kind of a service.

Well Said Brethren
Pops always and continues to say "Be Proactive, not Reactive"

 

[Dert Bagg]

@ this pre-teen self-esteem camp bullshit.

 

[owl]

@ this pre-teen self-esteem camp bullshit.

 

[gonzo8402]

@ this pre-teen self-esteem camp bullshit.

 

[Olosi]

God is Looking for “Followers”!
God Refers to Humanity as Sheep

Repeatedly, in the Bible, Jesus speaks of His followers as sheep! Thirty-two times in the New Testament, Jesus refers to us as “sheep” and nine times He refers to Himself as “the Shepherd.” At least nineteen times in the Bible, Jesus says “Follow Me.” And He did not instruct Peter to “Lead My sheep” but to “Feed My Sheep.” (John 21:16,17)

Never once did Jesus tell His followers to become “Leaders.” The idea of developing, or becoming, “Leaders” is a fraud perpetrated by the Organized Church!

Jesus built into EVERY human being the desire to be led, the desire to be a follower, the desire to be taken care of from the cradle to the grave! That’s EXACTLY how God wants us to be. He made “following” the central theme of our very existence - to be “taken care of” - to be a “follower” and NOT a leader - to be totally dependent! It is a GOOD characteristic - NOT a bad one. God does NOT want us to be “Leaders”!

But WHO are we to “follow”?

Uhh, Jesus also said, "you too shall do as I have done and more." GOD created MAN in HIS image. What you are saying is contradictory.The analogy of sheep is correct, otherwise there would never have arisen dictators, nor churches, nor militray machines. Civilization only came about because humans are social creatures and most (99%) need to be told what to do. Let's face it. Most people don't need free will because most people don't think independently. Everyone who watches a reality TV show is proof of that.

 

[Les W]

Uhh, Jesus also said, "you too shall do as I have done and more." GOD created MAN in HIS image. What you are saying is contradictory.The analogy of sheep is correct, otherwise there would never have arisen dictators, nor churches, nor militray machines. Civilization only came about because humans are social creatures and most (99%) need to be told what to do. Let's face it. Most people don't need free will because most people don't think independently. Everyone who watches a reality TV show is proof of that.

This would be true except when you take a step back the world is truly an ass backward animalistic type place, the John Lockean/Godhead doesn't work in advanced society

I'n not even gonna touch the Jesus stuff

 

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[Nevsky]

I'm not really interested in leading or following for that matter.

 

[Tazirai]

The LORD will make you the head, not the tail. If you pay attention to the commands of the LORD your God that I give you this day and carefully follow them, you will always be at the top, never at the bottom—Deuteronomy 28:13

I dont follow the Christian God.. what does that make me?

I believe in God.. just not yours.. what does that make me.


Is it sinful that I disagree with the most powerful religion of our age?.. what does that make me.

What if I told you I believe in God.. but as creator..not micromanager.. what does that make me.

I lead to many things and know when to follow on others...

I know to never follow the crowd.. but to keep an eye on it... that'll keep you alive.

I guess I am a leader.

 

[4ce of n8ur]

I'm not really interested in leading or following for that matter.

what ya gonna do then?

old proverb says, in situation, the best course of action is the right thing, the second best is the wrong thing, the worst is nothing.

leading/following is the only game in town. unless you've found a new game - put me on homey.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

good drop!!




and anyone who believes in nothing is nothing.

Don't have to be religious to believe in GOD.
Religious people try to impress each other all day about what they know about religion instead of focusing on GOD and helping bring peace into their life.
FUCK THOSE SHEEP ASS MOTHERFUCKAZ.

Before you leave brothers and sister remember to leave all your money.Tha bible says that money belongs to tha church and God will usher it into your life after I get this Benz..I mean when he is satisfied with your giving.Don't worry about people talking about you when you end up homeless.Worry about people talking about you not giving your money to me... I meant GOD.

 

[owl]

what ya gonna do then?

old proverb says, in situation, the best course of action is the right thing, the second best is the wrong thing, the worst is nothing.

leading/following is the only game in town. unless you've found a new game - put me on homey.

I feel the homie...

Although those of us who chose to play this game called society, have to back and forth it- whether we are authority figures, skilled and talented to the point of forced acceptances, or charismatic- there will be some of us who chose not to play. Siddhartha(the original Buddha) gave up his position(he was a prince) and just studied life. Of course, he still became a leader, and a representative authority on the game, but he tried to do something slightly unique.

 

[wutdadeal3]

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Great thread...and I love your mind.

A Leader is a leader by his/her sincerity and compassion for others betterment..they become that leader by others choosing them not him/her making him/herself that leader.

a follower thinks he/she can leader or be a leader thinking they got it all figured out by enviously analyzing the leader they're hating on.

A Leader is filled with sincerity
a follower is filled with envy

A Leader also filled with humbleness
a follower is filled with arrogance

I feel the homie...

Although those of us who chose to play this game called society, have to back and forth it- whether we are authority figures, skilled and talented to the point of forced acceptances, or charismatic- there will be some of us who chose not to play. Siddhartha(the original Buddha) gave up his position(he was a prince) and just studied life. Of course, he still became a leader, and a representative authority on the game, but he tried to do something slightly unique.

Good point

I dont follow the Christian God.. what does that make me?

I believe in God.. just not yours.. what does that make me.


Is it sinful that I disagree with the most powerful religion of our age?.. what does that make me.

What if I told you I believe in God.. but as creator..not micromanager.. what does that make me.

I lead to many things and know when to follow on others...

I know to never follow the crowd.. but to keep an eye on it... that'll keep you alive.

I guess I am a leader.

Great point...notice how a leader doesn't call him/herself a leader.

Uhh, Jesus also said, "you too shall do as I have done and more." GOD created MAN in HIS image. What you are saying is contradictory.The analogy of sheep is correct, otherwise there would never have arisen dictators, nor churches, nor militray machines. Civilization only came about because humans are social creatures and most (99%) need to be told what to do. Let's face it. Most people don't need free will because most people don't think independently. Everyone who watches a reality TV show is proof of that.

Good point but I wouldn't say 99% though, it is a high percentage (like in the 90s) but I wouldn't say that high.
Unfortunately, Everyone can't lead...to lead you must be able to think for yourself (the said God given gift "Freedom of Choice"). There are too many examples in the bible that shows that most are followers and there is only a handful of leaders (the chosen few)

And I would like to ad that the bible is contradictory itself. So, I don't agree with your statement. Yes, it is in the bible that Jesus called himself "the Shepherd" but the bible called him "the Lamb" also (supposedly sacrificed himself for mankind's sins...since the penalty for sin was suppose to have be the shedding of blood or death). Not to mention he was also referred to as a fishermen who was teaching a fisherman (if willing to follow him) to be a fisherman of men instead of fish. It's too much to go into but I see, agree, and applaud (0_0)..l.. finger for the points given.

Again, great thread

 

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Great thread...and I love your mind.

A Leader is a leader by his/her sincerity and compassion for others betterment..they become that leader by others choosing them not him/her making him/herself that leader.

a follower thinks he/she can leader or be a leader thinking they got it all figured out by enviously analyzing the leader they're hating on.

A Leader is filled with sincerity
a follower is filled with envy

A Leader also filled with humbleness
a follower is filled with arrogance




Good point




Great point...notice how a leader doesn't call him/herself a leader.




Good point but I wouldn't say 99% though, it is a high percentage (like in the 90s) but I wouldn't say that high.
Unfortunately, Everyone can't lead...to lead you must be able to think for yourself (the said God given gift "Freedom of Choice"). There are too many examples in the bible that shows that most are followers and there is only a handful of leaders (the chosen few)

And I would like to ad that the bible is contradictory itself. So, I don't agree with your statement. Yes, it is in the bible that Jesus called himself "the Shepherd" but the bible called him "the Lamb" also (supposedly sacrificed himself for mankind's sins...since the penalty for sin was suppose to have be the shedding of blood or death). Not to mention he was also referred to as a fishermen who was teaching a fisherman (if willing to follow him) to be a fisherman of men instead of fish. It's too much to go into but I see, agree, and applaud (0_0)..l.. finger for the points given.
Again, great thread

...omg you get it, that is exactly what I'm talking about....But I'm not trying to turn this thread too religious..That will take away from my message that I'm trying to send

 

[Nevsky]

what ya gonna do then?

old proverb says, in situation, the best course of action is the right thing, the second best is the wrong thing, the worst is nothing.

What will I do? The answer is that I'll do my own thing, which is what the fuck I choose. I don't want to be dictated to and because I feel so strongly about that, I'm not going to be hypicritical and try to do the same for someone else.

Depending on the situation, sure I'll bend to someone that I feel has more know how if the need calls for it but in general I don't bend for anyone.

Your proverb is also too 1 dimensional for my tastes.

leading/following is the only game in town. unless you've found a new game - put me on homey

I feel so sorry for you and those like you. You've let society, tradition, or perhaps peer pressure steer you into that line of thought. The 3rd option is simply not to play the game and do you. Or don't play the game unless you can do you also.

 

[BigUnc]

I feel so sorry for you and those like you. You've let society, tradition, or perhaps peer pressure steer you into that line of thought. The 3rd option is simply not to play the game and do you. Or don't play the game unless you can do you also.

Except for the feeling sorry part gotta go along with the rest.

 

[kim jong il pwns]

leaders and followers are just concepts. they don't exist. people do what they do and thats pretty much it.

 

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[Flawless]

you didn't list one thing that makes someone a leader

 

[MasterKey]

One thing I didn't see or maybe I missed it, is that to become a Good leader you need to be a good follower.

Why do I say that?

When you become a good follower you learn to listen and follow instructions given out from those above you and complete the task as followed and as time goes on you will gain that trust and start to work on autopilot which is the beginning of being a leader. Now when it becomes your turn to be at the helm you have gained that very important skill of listening instead of that my way or the highway I see in so many managers these days. You can't just come in and expect to be "bawse" like I see so many niggas trying to be. You have to be molded and groomed and have mentors to guide you, unless you are doing your own business.

 

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