EVERY BLACK MAN SHOULD KNOW THE STORY OF Willie Lynch: The Making of a Slave

I wonder if the knee-grows who bend over backwards trying to preach about the myth of Willie Lynch do the same, with the same passion, to stories about George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Paul Revere, Christmas, Jesus, Easter.. etc etc or do you reserve that kind of hatred only for things that uplift Black people... :hmm:
 
The movable press allowed whites to spread lies and shape realities. They observed people believe what we read lol. Shit is funny when you think about it but the way they used that power is another thing. Make people hate themselves, convince other races white ice is colder or pieces of paper equate to power, status and happiness. Gotta give em credit, it must've been fun while it lasted. Gameover now tho.
 
I wonder if the knee-grows who bend over backwards trying to preach about the myth of Willie Lynch do the same, with the same passion, to stories about George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Paul Revere, Christmas, Jesus, Easter.. etc etc or do you reserve that kind of hatred only for things that uplift Black people... :hmm:

Peace,

Please explain to me how this "letter" has uplifted black people.
 
So cats have no issue at all with the idea that a SINGLE prophetic aryan superman architected a plan for racial domination that has kept black folks under his thumb for almost 300 YEARS? Willie Lynch is damn near Jesus to those who believe in him. It's just funny to me because if black folks were this enslaved mentally back then, why the fuck all the whips and chains? If Willie Lynch has this much control over the black mind, why the civil rights movement? The letter points out post civil rights problems, using late 20th Century language and simply date stamps it and gives it a name.

I also don't get cats that have this "It doesn't matter if it's true or not, WE need to address it." If the shit ain't true, what is there to address. I've seen cats give this same argument for every manner of anti-black propaganda from the old "There are more black men in jail than college" argument to the "50-70% (depending on who is using the stat) of black folks are HIV positive."

Who the fuck else but black folks would feel compelled to accept and address LIES to the point where they will even acknowledge they are lies and STILL feel the need to address them? That shit right there is your Willie Lynch.

Willie Lynch is a relic of an era full of leather Africa medallions, "X" hats and no REAL knowledge of what the fuck it really means to be black. Some cats used that era as a stepping stone to actual enlightenment, other cats read Willie Lynch, listened to a couple of P.E. albums and called it a day.
 
So cats have no issue at all with the idea that a SINGLE prophetic aryan superman architected a plan for racial domination that has kept black folks under his thumb for almost 300 YEARS? Willie Lynch is damn near Jesus to those who believe in him. It's just funny to me because if black folks were this enslaved mentally back then, why the fuck all the whips and chains? If Willie Lynch has this much control over the black mind, why the civil rights movement? The letter points out post civil rights problems, using late 20th Century language and simply date stamps it and gives it a name.

I also don't get cats that have this "It doesn't matter if it's true or not, WE need to address it." If the shit ain't true, what is there to address. I've seen cats give this same argument for every manner of anti-black propaganda from the old "There are more black men in jail than college" argument to the "50-70% (depending on who is using the stat) of black folks are HIV positive."

Who the fuck else but black folks would feel compelled to accept and address LIES to the point where they will even acknowledge they are lies and STILL feel the need to address them? That shit right there is your Willie Lynch.

Willie Lynch is a relic of an era full of leather Africa medallions, "X" hats and no REAL knowledge of what the fuck it really means to be black. Some cats used that era as a stepping stone to actual enlightenment, other cats read Willie Lynch, listened to a couple of P.E. albums and called it a day.

Peace,

Agree with your entire post, particularly the bolded section. Wouldn't that make us the single most easily manipulated group of people who ever walked the face of the Earth?
 
I wonder if the knee-grows who bend over backwards trying to preach about the myth of Willie Lynch do the same, with the same passion, to stories about George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Paul Revere, Christmas, Jesus, Easter.. etc etc or do you reserve that kind of hatred only for things that uplift Black people... :hmm:

Dog, what the hell is uplifting about believing a single aryan superman has dominated an entire race of people's minds for 300 years?

You realize you are giving this man Christ-like abilities? The white dude next door to me doesn't dictate my life, how the hell is some imaginary cracker that would be long dead had he ever existed going to have this much power over me?
 
Peace,

Agree with your entire post, particularly the bolded section. Wouldn't that make us the single most easily manipulated group of people who ever walked the face of the Earth?

Yes it would, which is why I can not understand why so many cats consider this shit "empowering".

Also, it's easy as fuck to make a cat from 1700 look like a prophet when the damn letter was written in 1993.
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
So cats have no issue at all with the idea that a SINGLE prophetic aryan superman architected a plan for racial domination that has kept black folks under his thumb for almost 300 YEARS? Willie Lynch is damn near Jesus to those who believe in him. It's just funny to me because if black folks were this enslaved mentally back then, why the fuck all the whips and chains? If Willie Lynch has this much control over the black mind, why the civil rights movement? The letter points out post civil rights problems, using late 20th Century language and simply date stamps it and gives it a name.

I also don't get cats that have this "It doesn't matter if it's true or not, WE need to address it." If the shit ain't true, what is there to address. I've seen cats give this same argument for every manner of anti-black propaganda from the old "There are more black men in jail than college" argument to the "50-70% (depending on who is using the stat) of black folks are HIV positive."

Who the fuck else but black folks would feel compelled to accept and address LIES to the point where they will even acknowledge they are lies and STILL feel the need to address them? That shit right there is your Willie Lynch.

Willie Lynch is a relic of an era full of leather Africa medallions, "X" hats and no REAL knowledge of what the fuck it really means to be black. Some cats used that era as a stepping stone to actual enlightenment, other cats read Willie Lynch, listened to a couple of P.E. albums and called it a day.

Cosign

What disturbs me so much about this whole phenomenon is how quick people are to defend and endorse something they acknowledge is false. Like you said, it can on some levels be a tool of self-awareness, something to get your mind thinking. But from that point you should really educate yourself on the African diaspora.

Shit, I could write a letter from Mansa Musa talking about how great black people are. Do you think people would give a shit? Nope.
 
Yes it would, which is why I can not understand why so many cats consider this shit "empowering".

Also, it's easy as fuck to make a cat from 1700 look like a prophet when the damn letter was written in 1993.
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Peace,

This "letter" is probably the product of some kind of undergraduate, 'Black to the Future,' 'Each One Teach One' think tank established circa 1991. It was probably produced by the same minds who had/have black people who should know better believing that the word picnic is a code word for 'picking a ****** and hanging him.' :smh:
 
Ill Paragraph I'm starting to think you crying...prove me wrong man...I don't want to think that about you...you ain't no punk..are you??
 
Well if this thread didn't reach any conclusions it did prove that Reb and Ill Paragraph are 2 little bitchass mofos.
 
Like the bible, unable to verify the validity of letter... but would say the effects are not sensationalized.
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I would contend from reading African history and the ongoing whitewash of history itself (pun intended), and the ongoing refusal to change how history is taught to our children and re-education of adults to Africa's involvement in ancient history and its ideas used to form the ideologies of Greece and Rome, but also a plethora of sciences which was said they fathered... Along with 'discoveries' made by Christopher 'Columbus'.
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With the issue of our past unanswered, and current stigma associated with being 'African' or Africa, or the mentality against it formed globally, and our image controlled and throughly tainted by the media and entertainment industries... The issues of the letter will never end.

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We have been programmed that suffering for a cause is wrong and our peaceful, land-less revolution has 'liberated' African Americans... Especially if they call you 'black'

Whaaa? :confused:

What would you contend? Seems you went off course there a bit and landed on Columbus, (no pun0)

What issue of our past unanswered? Thought you read African History?

What race has no stigma? :dunno:

Who controls your image and to who is this image being sent to?

I don't get the crux of your post
 
I prefer god.. but I understand you're dyslexic :D

I don't interpret the letter as you just did. Christ-like abilities?

Can we at least agree that the system of slavery was much more than whips and chains? it was a well oiled machine of mental destruction that continues today even though the whips and chains are no longer used? That's how I interpret the letter, and the name "willie lynch" can be substituted with "Europeans", "Caucasians", "Christopher Columbus", or any other system of white supremacy.

Dog, what the hell is uplifting about believing a single aryan superman has dominated an entire race of people's minds for 300 years?

You realize you are giving this man Christ-like abilities? The white dude next door to me doesn't dictate my life, how the hell is some imaginary cracker that would be long dead had he ever existed going to have this much power over me?
 
Nittie this is the problem in a nutshell...no love...why? Cause someone told us we shouldn't love ourselves so we don't? Are we that stupid?

:smh: dude having a conversation with his alias :smh:

Then calling other people out :smh:
 
I don't interpret the letter as you just did. Christ-like abilities?

Can we at least agree that the system of slavery was much more than whips and chains? it was a well oiled machine of mental destruction that continues today even though the whips and chains are no longer used? That's how I interpret the letter, and the name "willie lynch" can be substituted with "Europeans", "Caucasians", "Christopher Columbus", or any other system of white supremacy.

:smh:

White people did not invent slavery every people has enslaved and been enslaved every other people at least once in human history, we need to leave the past in the past and move on.

NO ONE great has become great without overcoming disaster, in fact the ability to recover from the same thing that destroys others is what makes a lot of the most successful people persevere

Grown ass tough looking men crying bout cotton fields they never worked, whippings and lynchings they never got and racism they never felt.

Martin Luther King and Malcom X would laughed at y'all complaining about the "racism" you face today real talk

I can say this cause we black on a black board

Stop Being Victims
 
^^

Read what I wrote again... who said anything about white people inventing slavery? Im specifically talking about the transatlantic slave trade.

And you WRONG about Martin King and Malcolm X. They both would still be on the grind!
 
Whaaa? :confused:

What would you contend? Seems you went off course there a bit and landed on Columbus, (no pun0)

What issue of our past unanswered? Thought you read African History?

What race has no stigma? :dunno:

Who controls your image and to who is this image being sent to?

I don't get the crux of your post

No problem... damn distracting gif...I will mention first that the plight of another race is not my own, my backyard must be tended first.

Simply put, the Willie Lynch letter itself has not been proven as a valid letter as all have contended in here...yet. The methods used as tools for the African slave trade are shown in some of the issues which plague the psyche of our people today... as well as the stigma which all of African descendants currently hold. Our issue with the letter, still goes far deeper and is only part of the problem of systemic problem from Africa's fall.

We had to reclaim our history through anthropology, through scientific testing. through archaeology, and through philology among other sciences, and still African history hasn't been placed in the curriculum of world history in many school systems. After our people were evicted from our conquered European lands, and the start of enslavement, history in itself have been whitewashed to match Eurocentric means. All historical merit accepted and known throughout the world was changed to match it, including those on the continent after it was carved up. All of this done to have history match the conquerors instead of the truth, with Africans who were for the most part cosmopolitan turned into the uncivilized savage. Even Egypt, which has been only one of the great African nations but which can't be ignored since so many old writings include it and its Pharaohs and Queens were whitewashed from African in descent to Arabian, hell, even Memnon who kicked Achilles' ass and was Ethiopian was written in the Aithiopis by Homer, a book which came after the Iliad which was of course, forgotten.

We had to dispute every lie which was set forth, patch together the obvious and prove which was as obvious as the nose in their face, such as the pyramids in Africa, South America, and Asia which has our writing on the walls but was never thought that Africans done it... it was done by aliens.

We had to dispute that of course Christopher Columbus, or Christopher Colon, or Salvador Fernandes Zarco, or Cristobal Colon, whichever name you wish to take for the dude but all names for the same man, 'discovered' America as we forget that Africans have already made contact and trade with natives since Abubakari the Second of Mali and initial contact even as far back as 700 BC if you include carbon dating of pottery, drawings on caves, big ass head sculptors on Easter Island, the campus of LSU has an amphitheater.

These are only the minor things which are not taught in schools, and yet we bypass it for the lies which are taught our kids and never rectified. Our history as part of world history is the basis of history period, yet the importance we gain in America could be placed in February for acknowledgment...the shortest month of their calendar.

Image control
Your image is being controlled by not only the news stations and their nationwide reports based on half facts given by valid sources [such as more black men in college than prison, black men's dead beat dad percentage which doubled and still twice as less as Cacs, welfare numbers, dropout numbers, crime numbers, judicial sentencing], they also took the time to engineer the trend of music and movies to sustain stereotypical images of Africans and those of African descent. It is the sell out which accepts the money and works as a puppet for their agenda, or sells the drugs on the street which they brought into the nation and placed in areas of high concentration, or defend their 'help', or even say that we are treated as 'equals' to them...

We have been fucked with no Vaseline for so long we accept it with a smile and a jig, and one letter which can't be proven yet everyone argues of the validity of the word ignores the bigger picture of its meaning... your chains are still there... you are truly still in bondage... you are still chattel... until you reclaim all which is yours. This is not being a victim, you are still a victim regardless if accepted or not. If not, the need for civil rights wouldn't exist, the question of the need for Affirmative Action wouldn't be a subject, there would not be any disparagement out of their mouths, there wouldn't be a question whether you are African American or simply American, there wouldn't be an altered set of laws in which to imprison one people more than the other, listing could go on for this simple fact.

Until you are dealt with in relation to land, history, and culture. You must respected in relation to nationality. Without these, you will not be treated as an equal, considered equal, or respected as such... and still worse legally if you technically have the names adopted by your former slave homes... thank you Dred Scott.
 
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I have never read the letter before even though I heard of it. But after reading it and reading some of the comments posted I had to comment on it.

I don't know if this letter is true or false, but as i was reading it i couldn't help but notice the similarities to the problems we face today. The Black family has already been divided because there are alot of single Black women raising kids. So who is the head and the strongest in the family....the Black woman.

Jobs are a modern day slave plantation. You get there when they tell you to, take a break when they tell you, and get off when they tell you. Then they pay you just enough for you to stay and put up with the bullshit to get that sorry ass paycheck that is already spent before you got it.

Instead of everybody arguing about whether it is true or false, look at it for what it is. Take a look at the ghettos and the different hoods in your area. Shit you probably know some people personally or it may just be you, and ask the question if i worked together with my husband/wife or whoever i call my significant other, where would we be?
 
I have never read the letter before even though I heard of it. But after reading it and reading some of the comments posted I had to comment on it.

I don't know if this letter is true or false, but as i was reading it i couldn't help but notice the similarities to the problems we face today. The Black family has already been divided because there are alot of single Black women raising kids. So who is the head and the strongest in the family....the Black woman.

Jobs are a modern day slave plantation. You get there when they tell you to, take a break when they tell you, and get off when they tell you. Then they pay you just enough for you to stay and put up with the bullshit to get that sorry ass paycheck that is already spent before you got it.

Instead of everybody arguing about whether it is true or false, look at it for what it is. Take a look at the ghettos and the different hoods in your area. Shit you probably know some people personally or it may just be you, and ask the question if i worked together with my husband/wife or whoever i call my significant other, where would we be?

:yes:
 
Don't know if it's real or fake, but why make this shit up? Was it a white or black person that made it up? I have a book with letters from real slaves that contain alot of the atrocities the letter mentions. What is being claimed as false, the actions of slave owners or the notion that it would have an affect on generations to come?
 
I don't know if this letter is true or false, but as i was reading it i couldn't help but notice the similarities to the problems we face today.

That's the point. It's obviously something that was written from a contemporary point of view, trying to SIMPLISTICALLY link current issues to some all-powerful fictional [white] character from the past. It's just a lazy way to explain away certain complex sociological constructs.
 
That's the point. It's obviously something that was written from a contemporary point of view, trying to SIMPLISTICALLY link current issues to some all-powerful fictional [white] character from the past. It's just a lazy way to explain away certain complex sociological constructs.

Yeah sure. Whats the unlazy way? :rolleyes:

I have NEVER understood why the letter gets so much flak. A great deal of our history/culture was predicated on proverbs/fables. Most poeple today still base the way they think, act and self conceive the same way tho nowadays its based on societal norms, religious propaganda or other sources of info/authority that have shifting boundaries of absolute truth (can you say 'da internet'?) In many ways, the Willie Lynch letter can be considered a microcosm of these things. Further, just like the bible we can speculate as to what did/did not happen and who did/did not do what but the bottom line is its all up in the air leaving die hards on both sides of the table claiming ground. Ergo even if you can prove that this rendition is a fake -highly unlikely- you cant prove that it wasnt based on a real phenomenon..... which spirals you into the realm of arguments from ignorance whereby the argument itself dissolves into nothingness. A meaningless venture imo.


Even if we take for granted that it is 100% unauthentic the main goal by the 90s era author was about enlightenment even if those who consider themsleves enlightened consider it disingenuine. Not everybody has the patience or intellect to sit down and absorb Olaudah Equiano. Fuck that intellectual superiority bullshit. The message is as the message does and if it helped sparked one brain to explore higher thought than it was a worthwhile tall tale.
-just like that letter from the KKK that came out around the same time.

Lastly, so many fervent detracters latch on to the power of the concept of the slaveowner in the narrative when the power attempting to be tapped is with regard to the person/s psychologically enslaved. Willie Lynch mentality -actual or legend- can be more appropriately linked with the pervasive social morality of the day which promoted and maintained slavery as opposed to a single mastermind.

Cant stress it enough even if its 100% constructed youre still hard pressed to assert that no whites had the line of thought of divide and conquer -however intricate the program- as posited in the letter. How the fuck else do you think they conquered/pillaged an entire continent?

Tricknology, baby.
Flip that over hundreds of years.
:cool:
 
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