***The Official UFC 100 Thread***

[c_commander]

The chances of Fedor coming to the UFC and ever fighting Brock are slim to none. Between Dana White's ego and negotiation techniques and the fact that Fedor can make just as much money if not more money outside of the UFC it ain't happening.

The scariest thing about Brock is that along with his natural gifts and his wrestling he has plenty of room to improve some of which will come with experience.

 

[BIGGSARGE]

are you serious you think its easy to beat a wrestler...respect the art

I'VE SPARED AND FOUGHT WRESTERS AND I DO RESPECT THE ART...I THINK KUNGFU, KARATE, BOXING, JIT-JITSU,MUA-THAI, AND OTHERS ARE SUPERIOR..IN OTHER WORDS I DON'T THINK A WRESTLER CAN DEFEAT A MMA GUY. SHIT JUST ERKS ME.

 

[Makkonnen]

The chances of Fedor coming to the UFC and ever fighting Brock are slim to none. Between Dana White's ego and negotiation techniques and the fact that Fedor can make just as much money if not more money outside of the UFC it ain't happening.

The scariest thing about Brock is that along with his natural gifts and his wrestling he has plenty of room to improve some of which will come with experience.

word imagine if he could strike without laying down someone gonna bring a gun in the ring

 

[LeroyDibiase]

I KNOW IT'S MMA...BROCK IS JUST A PURE WRESTLER..HE'S JUST LEARNING OTHER DISCIPLINES....HE SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DEFEAT SOME ONE WHO'S BEEN DOING MMA FOR YEARS...SHIT'S JUST NOT LOGICAL.

Just like Matt Hughes? Was Matt Hughes sorry? Was Hughes terrible? He was a pure wrestler and Learned on the job. He's the greatest Welterweight of all time.

No, if you understood MMA you would know that Mir was never in the best position to pull a sub he spent all the time he was on the ground with Brock in his half guard...now tell me how many cats you've seen pull a sub from the bottom while only having half guard with a guy that strong on top.

Did the fight start off that way? Why didn't Frank beat him on the feet like he did Nog? Oh, that's right, because Brock put him on his ASS. BTW, I've seen that happen plenty of times from the bottom.

 

[clayizaiken]

It figures huh? The more I post on BGOL, the less of a "faggot" I appear to be?
Ohhh, it fuckin figures then to me also:

Join Date: 10-22-2005
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You are too salty for me

She must look like your mom...

or dad

AND I repeat...Ewwww

you're a faggot for not liking titties and saying "...ewwwww" like a little girl.

your join date and Your low post count confirms that you're a lurker who doesn't contribute to the board that often because you bring nothing to the fuckin table.

You wanna call me salty, but your demeanor tells me that you're moist, and moist niggas don't last long around here. you joined in '05, so I am disappointed you haven't figured that out by now.

u fuckin moist faggot.

Now, princess, before you assemble your feeble retort, solve this word problem:

if a total of THREE members on this board gave a fuck what you thought, then that would bring your cumulative lifetime total of people who gave a fuck about your opinion to NEGATIVE SIX. so where does that leave you?

 

[Chuckles]

Brock is the Jackie Robinson. You are about to see an influx of Black athletes in MMA like Jon Jones who are so good and athletic and they learn on the job. Jones learns moves from Youtube and just choked out an all-american wrestler.




Can he KO Brock? Yes.

Will he? No.

I've broken down why Brock/Fedor is closer than what YOU and everyone else want to admit. Damn near a year has passed since then. A year of sub-defense. Brock is a more intelligent fighter.

Where exactly did you see the sub defense, Mir never really went for anything as he was mostly out of position.

People can keep loving Brock as much as they want but be realistic he wins because of his physical gifts...period.

 

[Makkonnen]

LMAO well be well-rounded and beat him on the feet. Then why do you think Fedor will win if it's all about size?

Do you realize that makes no sense?
I said Brock's win over Mir tonight was in large part to his stature. What makes you think I apply that analysis of one man's victory to all other fights?
Like I said bruh take it easy.

Bad analogy. Frank Mir is 245, Lesnar is 270. And Mir was flabbier than he was yesterday, so he cut to 245, the size difference isn't that big. You're crying. GSP just beat a bigger ALves. Mir beat a bigger Sylvia and Wes Sims.

So is it SIZE or technique?

Again take it easy. Mir was a fatter 245 - brock was a schwartzenegger 270. If Brock was at the same body fat as Mir he'd be 300. How am I crying if I dont give a fuck who won and give credit to Brock for mashin Mir?
Dude you type like youre snorting lines off a brock poster.

 

[LeroyDibiase]

Was Lashley recruited to be on the US Olympic team? Recently? That aint shit though right?
Lashley is faster than Brock. He couldnt beat Guida because he sucks as MMA like I just said. Can you read? What the fuck does - he's stifff, cant beat Debo and cant strike makes it sound like I said he's better than Lesnar? Nigga calm down you wylin out - Did Debo promise you some shit if he won or something? Did the first fight somehow not look like Mir was gettin a beatdown until the end?
Unless your last name is Lesnar you are gettin a lil bit carried away.

Olympics? No.

He's not faster OR quicker. Have you seen his fights? Have you seen Lesnar's? How can you even make that statement?

Is your last name Mir? You always come in hating and shit ahahaha. As much as you're on Machida's dick, you better go on talking about some shit like that.

 

[SmuTTy_RaNKS]

Nobody in the UFC can beat or even give Brock a challenge. He's too big and athletic for his weight and size. He has the biggest hands in the whole company for pete sake.

Dana white is gonna feed him victims plus anybody who crosses UFC, until Brock can't or won't fight anymore.

It's not that Brock is some great fighter, he's a genetic freak, and Dana Whites heavy weight talent pool looks like cruiser Light Heavys to him.

 

[clayizaiken]

Where exactly did you see the sub defense, Mir never really went for anything as he was mostly out of position.

People can keep loving Brock as much as they want but be realistic he wins because of his physical gifts...period.

Bill Goldberg could beat Brock.

 

[LeroyDibiase]

I'VE SPARED AND FOUGHT WRESTERS AND I DO RESPECT THE ART...I THINK KUNGFU, KARATE, BOXING, JIT-JITSU,MUA-THAI, AND OTHERS ARE SUPERIOR..IN OTHER WORDS I DON'T THINK A WRESTLER CAN DEFEAT A MMA GUY. SHIT JUST ERKS ME.

Now I know you're high. The only art that can beat a wrestler is BJJ. The rest of those arts have a puncher's chance.

 

[BIGGSARGE]

Just like Matt Hughes? Was Matt Hughes sorry? Was Hughes terrible? He was a pure wrestler and Learned on the job. He's the greatest Welterweight of all time.



Did the fight start off that way? Why didn't Frank beat him on the feet like he did Nog? Oh, that's right, because Brock put him on his ASS. BTW, I've seen that happen plenty of times from the bottom.

TRUE, MATT LEARNED ON THE JOB....IN EACH DISCIPLINE YOU THINK YOU ARE SUPERIOR...MINE IN KUNG FU, YOU ARE JUST TRAINED TO THINK YOU CAN'T BE DEFEATED. IN MY MIND I CANNOT SEE A WRESLER DEFEATING ME, JUST CAN'T SEE IT...FRANK WAS WELL TRAINED IN MANY OTHER DISCIPLINES..HE SHOULD HAVE KEPT HIS DISTANCE INITIALLY SO HE COULD OPERATE...AFTER HE WORE OLE BOY DOWN THEN CONNECT FOR SOME SUBMISSIONS.

 

[gr8]

you're a faggot for not liking titties and saying "...ewwwww" like a little girl.

your join date and Your low post count confirms that you're a lurker who doesn't contribute to the board that often because you bring nothing to the fuckin table.

You wanna call me salty, but your demeanor tells me that you're moist, and moist niggas don't last long around here. you joined in '05, so I am disappointed you haven't figured that out by now.

u fuckin moist faggot.

First of all, the shit was a joke...all though she does look rather "Ewwwy" in that picture. And I just don't happen to want to fuck all pasty white ashy no ass having titties. Just to be clear.

AND I contribute JUST enough to get my BGOL fix and remain a member

(this shit is my personal CNN)

My initial demeanor was "ewwwww" in case you forgot, how that makes me a MOIST Faggot is puzzling.

And since you joined in 2005 also, how in the fuck have you not figured out that "around here" niggas have opinions?

My original one stands from this pic...

Ewwww

 

[LeroyDibiase]

Do you realize that makes no sense?
I said Brock's win over Mir tonight was in large part to his stature. What makes you think I apply that analysis of one man's victory to all other fights?
Like I said bruh take it easy.

You said the same "size" bull after Herring and Couture. That's all of his wins. Now you're saying it after Mir. In your words, Brock wins mainly on size. Ergo, since he's bigger than Fedor, why wouldn't his size give him the duke?

Again take it easy. Mir was a fatter 245 - brock was a schwartzenegger 270. If Brock was at the same body fat as Mir he'd be 300. How am I crying if I dont give a fuck who won and give credit to Brock for mashin Mir?
Dude you type like youre snorting lines off a brock poster.

Wrong. You did not see the weighins then. Mir was a SHREDDED 245. He looked to be in the best shape of his life. Lemme find pics. He was not fat. Brock has much more body fat than Mir.

 

[SmuTTy_RaNKS]

 

[Makkonnen]

Can he KO Brock? Yes.

Will he? No.

I've broken down why Brock/Fedor is closer than what YOU and everyone else want to admit. Damn near a year has passed since then. A year of sub-defense. Brock is a more intelligent fighter.

Bruh that shit discredits all the martial artists who actually work for years perfecting technique. Brock used some intelligence to avoid a repeat of what happened in their first fight but using the word intelligent in describing the style seems like pushing it. Yeah it was smart to not test out Mir's new striking skills. Yeah he didnt come close to getting in a bad position on the ground. That is smart - no doubt. Definitely not stupid. But is Brock the mma mentalist now? Hell fuckin no.

He's a big strong dude with cardio and wrestling. He's a giant clay guida without the jaw or striking.
I mean can dude even kick? I can't remember seeing him try it- honestly. Can he?

 

[LeroyDibiase]

Bruh that shit discredits all the martial artists who actually work for years perfecting technique. Brock used some intelligence to avoid a repeat of what happened in their first fight but using the word intelligent in describing the style seems like pushing it. Yeah it was smart to not test out Mir's new striking skills. Yeah he didnt come close to getting in a bad position on the ground. That is smart - no doubt. Definitely not stupid. But is Brock the mma mentalist now? Hell fuckin no.

He's a big strong dude with cardio and wrestling. He's a giant clay guida without the jaw or striking.
I mean can dude even kick? I can't remember seeing him try it- honestly. Can he?

More intelligent than what he was. Brock 2008< Brock 2009< Brock 2010

He's pacing his fights better and not going in for the kill.

Without the jaw? He got hit flush and didn't get rocked. Watch the replay. Or DL it. He didn't get rocked by the elbow OR the knee that followed it. He opened the fight with leg kicks. C'mon bruh, he's used leg kicks in every fight. He was elbowing and kneeing Couture with muay thai.

 

[BIGGSARGE]

Now I know you're high. The only art that can beat a wrestler is BJJ. The rest of those arts have a puncher's chance.

THAT'S WHAT YOU SAY...I STILL BELIEVE A WRESLER CAN'T DEFEAT THESE OTHER DISCIPLINES....I'VE KNOCKED A WRESTLER OUT BEFORE, I'VE SUBMITTED A WRESTER...THEY JUST TRY TO TAKE YOU DOWN AND PUT HOLDS ON YOU..IF YOU GOT GOOD DEFENSE AND STRONG LEGS YOU CAN AVOID THIS. BROCK'S DAY IS COMING REAL SOON. MOCK MY WORDS.

 

[Makkonnen]

You said the same "size" bull after Herring and Couture. That's all of his wins. Now you're saying it after Mir. In your words, Brock wins mainly on size. Ergo, since he's bigger than Fedor, why wouldn't his size give him the duke?

Oh my bad I see what youre saying now- Im saying it wouldnt give him the duke because fedor is the terminator
Im not saying it isnt possible for anyone to beat Fedor- I just dont think the shit that has given Brock the wins he has (all 5 or so of them) wont work with Fedor
its all guesswork until the shit happens

btw - i dont give a shit about mir- i like him and brock the same- i like Mir more because of his personal trials but Brock's shit talkin is growin on me along with the fact he scares the shit out of dana

Wrong. You did not see the weighins then. Mir was a SHREDDED 245. He looked to be in the best shape of his life. Lemme find pics. He was not fat. Brock has much more body fat than Mir.

I saw the weighins mir was cut- i thought you were saying he came in tonight at 245 and put on 10-20lbs
I dont know if Brock does have more bodyfat - that fuckin savage is a machine -

 

[LeroyDibiase]

LMAO @ Sherdog blowing up.

LESNAR BY MIRDER.

 

[Deltronz]

Why are people downplaying Brock's victory tonight so much? He did what he needed to do to win the fight, period. Who cares if he didn't use an arm bar or not. Also, as big as he is, he's not a monster relative to Mir's size. He's bigger, but certainly didn't dwarf Mir in comparison. Brock is beatable, just no one has done it yet.

 

[LeroyDibiase]

I love Sherdog CRYIN about what Lesnar did but Hendo purposely hit a KO'd fighter and he's praised.

 

[Makkonnen]

More intelligent than what he was. Brock 2008< Brock 2009< Brock 2010

He's pacing his fights better and not going in for the kill.

Without the jaw? He got hit flush and didn't get rocked. Watch the replay. Or DL it. He didn't get rocked by the elbow OR the knee that followed it. He opened the fight with leg kicks. C'mon bruh, he's used leg kicks in every fight. He was elbowing and kneeing Couture with muay thai.

Bruh can you calm down and stop readin shit into my comments?
Yes dude has gotten better. I never said pacing or keeping to a gameplan while someone tries to knock your head off or break your limbs doesnt require intelligence. Would you say that people who do all that and know subs etc are show more intelligence than those who only do the pacing etc?

I have the fight on in hd - I seriously didnt remember dude kneeing or punching and havent seen the couture or herring fights since they happened. Again not shit talking just couldn remember- seemed out of character for him
muay thai? - cant say ive seen brock do anything that made that come to mind but all i remember is him mashin mufuckas like potatoes
FYI the us olympic coach invited lashley to come be on the team and lashley was in training for it until an injury stopped him - that was 03 04
I watched it in HD and the replay is on now.

hey bottomline is getting the win and brock knows how to get it done- size dont trump everything or we would have just watched bob sapp versus brock lesnar

 

[LeroyDibiase]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG2N_JC8YFA

Watch it before it goes down.

Brock was not hurt by the knee.

 

[gr8]

Now, princess, before you assemble your feeble retort, solve this word problem:

if a total of THREE members on this board gave a fuck what you thought, then that would bring your cumulative lifetime total of people who gave a fuck about your opinion to NEGATIVE SIX. so where does that leave you?

Is this nigga serious?


You are TOO old for that man, 30 IS NOT the new 20, don't let rappers get you out of your lane.

So as a gentleman, I apologize for saying Ewww about your picture. In hindsight I realized that you probably just finished "beating" Brock to his own wife...yuck

But I'm sorry man, forgive a fellow 05er

 

[Makkonnen]

LMAO @ Sherdog blowing up.

LESNAR BY MIRDER.

mir = brockoli

I love Sherdog CRYIN about what Lesnar did but Hendo purposely hit a KO'd fighter and he's praised.

man you know how sherdog is
i knew bisping didnt have the minerals for hendo
hendo aint leben - bisping isnt strong enough to be a champ at 185- bisping was in the best shape ever too - i dont know if he could just be a journeyman or move up or down but he cant win runnin away - he has speed but not enough power - he needs to overhaul his style or move or somethin

 

[Makkonnen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG2N_JC8YFA

Watch it before it goes down.

Brock was not hurt by the knee.

he was hurt by the punch the knee grazed him- from what I saw - i didnt hit that link though in case neither hit and it just looked like brock didnt like what mir was doing and took him down

 

[RoomService]

I got next

 

[Sowada]

Brock is now one of my favorite MMA fighters. He has those CACs at sherdog on suicide watch.

 

[ron_mexico]

Now I know you're high. The only art that can beat a wrestler is BJJ. The rest of those arts have a puncher's chance.

Agreed, and Even then. A great wrestler in MMA seems to have the advantage over BJJ.

Shiii. Most Champions today rarely even use thier BJJ skills other than to avoid thier opponents submissions. Even BJ Penn seems to be a striker.

 

[Makkonnen]

I got next

man - if kimbo can just be on some robbie lawlor shit it will be enough for him to be a superstar - he aint beatin nobody worth shit no time soon most likely so best not to put too much faith in him
if he did.......it would be the greatest story in sports

 

[Makkonnen]

Brock is now one of my favorite MMA fighters. He has those CACs at sherdog on suicide watch.

bout to go log in

 

[LeroyDibiase]

Sherdog is so funny to me. This shit is like wrestling.

Back when the Hart Foundation was beatin Macho man's ass and Elizabeth went to the back to get Hogan. They want Dana to go to the back and get Fedor to stop Brock from whippin everyone's ass.

The sad thing is...Brock is no longer going to be a good bet. .

 

[ron_mexico]

THAT'S WHAT YOU SAY...I STILL BELIEVE A WRESLER CAN'T DEFEAT THESE OTHER DISCIPLINES....I'VE KNOCKED A WRESTLER OUT BEFORE, I'VE SUBMITTED A WRESTER...THEY JUST TRY TO TAKE YOU DOWN AND PUT HOLDS ON YOU..IF YOU GOT GOOD DEFENSE AND STRONG LEGS YOU CAN AVOID THIS. BROCK'S DAY IS COMING REAL SOON. MOCK MY WORDS.

How many dominate BJJ champions are there now. Who actually use thier BJJ.

You have at least Two dominant primarily wrestling champs in the UFC right now.

 

[BIGGSARGE]

man - if kimbo can just be on some robbie lawlor shit it will be enough for him to be a superstar - he aint beatin nobody worth shit no time soon most likely so best not to put too much faith in him
if he did.......it would be the greatest story in sports

IF KIMBO GOT SOME ENDURANCE, GROUND GAME, AND SUBMISSION GAME HE'D BE UNSTOPPABLE...AS WE HAVE SEEN, IF HE'S TAKEN FROM HIS STAND UP HE'S A SHARK OUT OF WATER.