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THE PEOPLE WILL NOT FORGET. TALKED TO FAMILY, 4 DEAD NEAR THEIR SQUARE. NIGHTTIME, MORE PEOPLE COMING OUT, ITS GETTING WORSE. PHONE CONVERSATION WAS 2MIN, THEN CUT OUT

9:02
some govt forces in this area have retreated as a result of people's resistance
9:03
the chanting/slogans directly aimed at the supreme leader( Death to khamene'i
9:05
Isfahan,Ahwaz,Mashad More..and Shiraz staged protests today
9:12
Clashes in Rasht
9:15
the lives of thousands of people at enghelab sq in danger. presence of more people there can help.
9:17
Gunfire in Arya Shahr, West of Tehran.
9:20
Australian (No. 13, 23rd St.) embassy accepting Iranians injured in today's debate.
9:21
Rasht, Tabriz, Isfahan and Shiraz severe conflict between people and the military continues
9:30
Rasht on fire
9:31
Bus fired on Tohid Sq. Protesters entered to the square. Part of government forces has gone away from the Tohid Sq
9:32
Protesters were inside the mosque in Tehran, Azerbaijan St. which is now in fireAt 19:05 June 20th
Place: Karekar Ave., at the corner crossing Khosravi St. and Salehi st.

A young woman who was standing aside with her father watching the protests was shot by a basi More..j member hiding on the rooftop of a civilian house. He had clear shot at the girl and could not miss her. However, he aimed straight her heart. I am a doctor, so I rushed to try to save her. But the impact of the gunshot was so fierce that the bullet had blasted inside the victim's chest, and she died in less than 2 minutes.
The protests were going on about 1 kilometers away in the main street and some of the protesting crowd were running from tear gass used among them, towards Salehi St.
The film is shot by my friend who was standing beside me.
Please let the world know

 

[keysersoze]

Re: Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر ای*

Yea, those protests seem to be getting out of hand.

I don't think the US or the world will or can do much about them, remember the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989? Well, this may be another supressed protests event that simply disappears.

 

[keysersoze]

Re: Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر ای*

On another note, I personally don't think these protests are anything similar to the making of revolution.

Remember, Iran's political structure is very founded and lacks concentration of power in 1 branch for there to be revolution.

 

[Ming Fei Hong]

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[Helico-pterFunk]

Re: Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر ای*

* On a side note - in regards to IRAQ, and not IRAN ...


My best friend locally is Iraqi, and his family back home has dealt with some terrible tragedies as well.

Just last year some cats pulled up at a bus stop and opened fire on his 2 cousins in their 20s. Murdered them. Then backtracked to their home and MURDERED THEIR MOM (their younger brother - 10 years old -fucking hid in the REFRIGERATOR so as not to be killed himself). Scary as fuck.

 

[keysersoze]

Re: Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر ای*

My best friend locally is Iraqi, and his family back home has dealt with some terrible tragedies as well.

Just last year some cats pulled up at a bus stop and opened fire on his 2 cousins in their 20s. Murdered them. Then backtracked to their home and MURDERED THEIR HOME (their younger brother - 10 years old -fucking hid in the REFRIGERATOR so as not to be killed himself). Scary as fuck.

uhhhh HFunk, what does that have to do with Iran?

Iran ≠ Iraq.

 

[JJWALKER]

Re: Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر ای*

Yea, those protests seem to be getting out of hand.

I don't think the US or the world will or can do much about them, remember the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989? Well, this may be another supressed protests event that simply disappears.

They didn't have access to the internet, phones, and wireless phone data back in 1989 to get their word out to the world.

 

[Helico-pterFunk]

Re: Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر ای*

uhhhh HFunk, what does that have to do with Iran?

Iran ≠ Iraq.

I know that ... I was just mentioning some other crazy shit that had happened for a friend (originally from overseas). His immediate family moved to Canada in 1985.

 

[QueEx]

Re: Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر ای*

uhhhh HFunk, what does that have to do with Iran?

Iran ≠ Iraq.

and, ≠ BarBri either



QueEx

 

[untouchable212]

Re: Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر ای*

Some bullshit right here.

 

[actinanass]

Re: Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر ای*

Man where's charlie wilson when you need him!!!!

 

[keysersoze]

Re: Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر ای*

and, ≠ BarBri either



QueEx

Ok, I'm out of this joint.

 

[QueEx]

Re: Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر ای*

Ok, I'm out of this joint.

 

[Mello Mello]

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Wow That was gripping. Got me worked up.

 

[streetdreamer]

Re: Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر ای*

Damn, she was fine too... might've been wifey... I take my comment back, dont call me before the body gets cold... just dont call me.

 

[tajshan]

Re: Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر ای*

Mufukkas walkin' the planet with no regard for human life

 

[QueEx]

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Her name was "Neda" (Nee - Dah)

It means, "The Calling"

On Saturday, she came to witness the protests
with her father, just one among thousands of others.

Today, she is the rallying cry for Iranian protests.

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Neda, young girl brutally killed in Iran, becoming symbol of rebellion

Neda, young girl brutally killed in Iran, becoming symbol of rebellion

Her name is Neda, which means "voice" in Farsi, and her death has become the central rallying cry of the Iranian rebellion.

The fresh-faced teenage girl killed by what appears to be a single sniper shot on the streets of Tehran Saturday is now a potent symbol for Iran's pro-democracy protesters.

Her shocking and quick death in the arms of her howling father was captured on closeup video, posted to Facebook and came to life on computer screens across the globe.

"RIP Neda, the world cries seeing your last breath," was one of a flood of messages on Twitter.

"They killed Neda, but not her voice," read another. "Neda is everyone's sister, everyone's daughter, everyone's voice for freedom," said a third.

Within hours of her death, posters of the girl's face, open-eyed and bloody, were being brandished by demonstrators in Los Angeles and New York City.

The graphic video was originally posted to Facebook by an Iranian expatriate in Holland who said it was sent to him by a friend in Tehran, a doctor who tried to save the girl.

He identified her as Neda Soltani, a 16-year-old philosophy student.

A Facebook group created to mourn her calls her "The Angel of Iran."

In Tehran on Sunday, the streets were quiet for the first time in a week, but the city was bracing for more unrest today when thousands are expected to mourn the girl's death.

"To protest against lies and fraud is your right," opposition candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi told his followers in a statement.

"Be hopeful in exercising your rights and do not allow those who try to instill fear in you to make you angry."

An ABC reporter in Dubai said she was told the girl was rapidly buried to forestall a funeral rally.

In the holy city of Qom, turmoil was reported among the ruling clerics. There were reports that some dissident clerics were trying to replace the supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

The regime is under threat after President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad won a suspiciously huge landslide in the June 12 election, sparking accusations of vote rigging and days of mass protests.

Saturday's brutal crackdown, in which at least a dozen people were killed and hundreds wounded, hardened opposition to the supreme leader as well as Ahmadinejad.

In apparent retaliation, the daughter of powerful former President Hashemi Rafsanjani and four of his other relatives were arrested and held for a day, according to state TV.

State radio said Monday that 457 people were arrested in the clashes.

Rafsanjani's kin were held for a day for their own protection, but it was seen

Rafsanjani, 75, is chairman of the Assembly of Experts that has the power to remove the supreme leader and is Mousavi's most powerful ally.

Reporters Without Borders said 33 Iranian journalists and bloggers have been arrested even as the foreign press was barred from the streets .

"The regime has been visibly shaken by its own population. That is why the media have become a priority target," Reporters Without Borders said.

State TV blamed "terrorists" for the street violence.

BBC Persia aired extraordinary video of a crowd of stone-throwing youths on Saturday slowly advancing on a cadre of well-armed police with riot shields, finally forcing the security forces to turn tail and run.

BBC's lead reporter in Tehran was subsequently told he had 24 hours to leave the country.

A Life.com magazine photographer was missing, and a Newsweek reporter arrested.

Germany called for a revote, and French President Nicolas Sarkozy called the crackdown on peaceful protest "inexcusable."

As the Neda video ignited fury and tears, several new Twitter accounts were opened dedicated solely to insisting the video was fake. The posters were roundly shouted down as tools of the Iranian regime.

One of the many other videos of the Tehran protests uploaded to YouTube captured the girl in the last moments of her life, standing on a curb with her silver-haired father, watching the protesters go by.

In a country where martyrdom is a matter of great import and mourning marches often mix with protests, the girl's very public death has the potential to be a galvanizing event.



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[QueEx]

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Protesters mourn 'Angel of Iran'</font size><font size="4">

The Revolutionary Guard vowed to stop the street demonstrations,
causing some protesters to stay home. But others gathered
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The Christian Science Monitor
By Scott Peterson, Staff writer
from the June 22, 2009 edition


Istanbul, Turkey - Uncertainty rose Monday among Iran's opposition supporters after violent clashes with the government's police and "disciplinary forces" over the weekend.

Meanwhile, more details emerged of election irregularities and the government stepped up accusations against the West and the media for fomenting violence.

Until now, the government has employed police and ideological militia to quell protests. But now Iran's Revolutionary Guard have vowed to weigh in. It ordered protesters to "end the sabotage and rioting activities" and warned them to be ready for a "revolutionary confrontation with the Guards, Basij, and other security ... and disciplinary forces" if they dared to gather in public again.

The Revolutionary Guard is tasked with preserving the 1979 revolution, The force was created by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini because he did not trust the regular Army. The Guard is considered more ideological than the regular Iranian Army.

But on Monday afternoon local time, sources in Tehran say protesters gathered at two main squares Haft-e Tir and Ferdowsi, prompting clashes with security forces. They were gathering to remember a young woman killed during fierce clashes on Saturday that left at least 13 dead, by official count.

The student rembembered, Neda Agha Soltan, was reportedly shot in the chest by a basiji militiaman passing on a motorcycle. Graphic Internet video of the aftermath has turned her into an instant icon of the movement lead by defeated moderate Mir Hossein Mousavi.

A Facebook page titled "Angel of Iran" has been created to honor her. Authorities forbade a memorial service on Sunday. Mr. Mousavi – who has not been seen since Thursday – urged his followers late Sunday to keep up the pressure.

"The revolution is your legacy," Mousavi said on his website. "To protest against lies and fraud is your right. Be hopeful that you will get your right and do not allow others who want to provoke your anger ... to prevail."

The protesters who have choked the streets by the hundreds of thousands in the past week are calling for a rerun of the disputed reelection of hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

But the protesters are torn between their desire to challenge an election result they consider a fraud – relying on Article 27 in Iran's Constitution that says peaceful marches "may freely be held" – and their fear of more violent confrontations that won't bring them any closer to their goals.

"I'm feeling that it's something between them [rival clerics within the establishment], and we shouldn't get killed for it," says one protester, who asked not to be named for fear of reprisal. "I am wondering ... what can come of it? What are we going to get out of this?"

Iranian officials announced that 457 people had been arrested on Saturday, and five members of the family of former President Hashemi Rafsanjani – including his politically active daughter – had been arrested and released.

"Giving up hope is probably the worst thing we could do [but] you just don't know what these people are going to do and what they are capable of," he says in a phone interview. "We're not violent, but they can be."


<font size="3">Just a little fraud?</font size>

A spokesman for the Guardian Council – a hard-line body of 12 clerics that is loyal to Iran's supreme religious leader, Ayatollah Sayed Ali Khamenei, and supports President Ahmadinejad – said complaints of fraud were overblown.

"Statistics provided by the candidates, who claim more than 100 percent of those eligible have cast their ballot in [between] 80 [and] 170 cities are not accurate," Abbas Ali Kadkhodaei told state TV. "The incident has happened in only 50 cities."

While Mr. Kadkhodaei said that problem could affect 3 million votes – in a race in which Ahmadinejad officially won 24 million to Mousavi's 13 million, he said it has "yet to be determined" if it would adjust the result.

But Ayatollah Khamenei ruled out any change in the result during a sermon last Friday. A foreign ministry spokesman called the June 12 vote a "brilliant gem shining on the peak of the Iranian election," and accused Western nations and the media of meddling and encouraging the turmoil.


<font size="3">Western media accused</font size>

Hassan Ghashghavi accused the directors of Voice of America and BBC Persian service of being "officially the spiritual children of [Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin] Netanyahu ... and their aim is to weaken the national solidarity ... and disintegrate Iran."

The BBC and CNN, he charged, had set up a "situation room and a psychological war room."

The BBC's permanent correspondent, Jon Leyne, was forced to leave Iran on Sunday. The Canadian-Iranian correspondent for Newsweek, Maziar Bahari, was also arrested.


<font size="3">Too many votes cast</font size>

New details of election irregularities also emerged from analysts who compared official local and provincial results from the recent election with past votes, including the 2005 ballot that brought Ahmadinejad to the presidency.

The numbers simply do not add up, according to Iran expert Ali Ansari in a report for the Chatham House think tank in London.

Two conservative provinces registered more than 100 percent turnout, the report states, while four more topped 90 percent.

Polls prior to the election showed Iran's conservative president was in a tight race, or on his way to defeat. Yet to achieve the official results given him, the report says, in 10 of Iran's 30 provinces, "Ahmadinejad would have needed to win over all new voters, all former Rafsanjani voters, and also up to 44 percent of former reformist voters."

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0622/p06s04-wome.html

 

[Chitownheadbusa]

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Powerful Video!
she was dead way before the blood started to come out
May She RIP!

that was fucked up to watch

Mufukkas walkin' the planet with no regard for human life

yep...
we have people just like that living within the Black community.

BTW...while you all are letting the media force feed you this one story, when in reality theres plenty of shit like this happening everyday, dont forget about what your government is doing & trying to do to YOU! They play with the people that cant control their emotions. Overly emotional people are easy to steer.

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

Re: NEDA - Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر

as someone said above this is some bullshiit.

 

[MasterKey]

Re: NEDA - Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر

This is very tragic, but this is not our problem to deal with. I don't know how to call this one. Back in 2002 the CIA tried to overthrow Hugo Chavez. Can the same forces be at work. A very pretty women killed put online to cause outrage? Sound familure??? I'm not saying it was all setup, but I'm also not going to get all involved up in this saying the US should get involved either. This is not our problem. The US needs to focus on the home problems and the 2 wars already going on and let the people or Iran handle there own internal problems.

 

[QueEx]

Re: NEDA - Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر

This is very tragic, but this is not our problem to deal with. I don't know how to call this one. Back in 2002 the CIA tried to overthrow Hugo Chavez. Can the same forces be at work.

I agree, the young woman's death, alone, is not something our government should concentrate its efforts, but individually, each person is free to form his/her own beliefs and sympathies. But in light of the brutal practices of the Iranian government, what deep within your psyche drives you to attempt a parallel using a dis-analogous example (the allege 2002 incident) and, on top of that, attempt to raise a question ("can same forces at work") without even an iota of fact to suggest the occurrence ???


QueEx

 

[MasterKey]

Re: NEDA - Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر

I agree, the young woman's death, alone, is not something our government should concentrate its efforts, but individually, each person is free to form his/her own beliefs and sympathies. But in light of the brutal practices of the Iranian government, what deep within your psyche drives you to attempt a parallel using a dis-analogous example (the allege 2002 incident) and, on top of that, attempt to raise a question ("can same forces at work") without even an iota of fact to suggest the occurrence ???


QueEx

It was a movie posted on this board a while back about the coup in 2002. That had somebody shooting at the people and the outrage that occurred because of it.

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=239068&highlight=hugo+chavez

War on democracy is the name of the movie. They had people shooting at the protesters who were not police, but it caused a outrage on TV from the way the images where shown and cut up on TV, that's where I belie its analogous to the 2002 situation. Why am I saying the same forces can be at work? For the same examples that are pointed out in the 2002 incident. I don't know if its true or not or even if they were involved, but I can see it happening. We over threw the Iranian govt back in the 1953.

 

[QueEx]

Re: NEDA - Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر

Why am I saying the same forces can be at work? For the same examples that are pointed out in the 2002 incident.

What examples; how are they analagous ???

I'm not saying you're wrong; but I am asking that YOU show you're right.

QueEx

 

[MasterKey]

Re: NEDA - Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر

What examples; how are they analagous ???

I'm not saying you're wrong; but I am asking that YOU show you're right.

QueEx

Your right I have no proof. Its all about what you can prove.. Its a feeling in my gut that this can be possible. Just from using past history as a example. I'm also not saying I'm 100 percent right. Just going off a gut feeling of what can be a possible outcome. I'm also from the school of "believe nothing you hear and half of what you see:

Cheers

 

[J-BOOGIE]

Re: NEDA - Young girl being killed by plainclothes امروز، سی خرداد، ساعت 7 بعد از ظهر

Your right I have no proof. Its all about what you can prove.. Its a feeling in my gut that this can be possible. Just from using past history as a example. I'm also not saying I'm 100 percent right. Just going off a gut feeling of what can be a possible outcome. I'm also from the school of "believe nothing you hear and half of what you see:

Cheers

LOL!!!!

Man, I was reading this thread after Que questioned you with great interest. Wondering what you'd say. Because that would be some very serious shit to prove. You would be the man, and likely a target of assassination yourself! I mean who actually knows THAT kind of stuff and is willing to talk openly about it on a message board or anywhere? That would be like someone saying that they KNEW the assination of Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand was a deliberately planned trigger event set to start off The Great War... Or was it???

Sarcasm...

Anyway...

I don't know exactly how to feel about this whole Neda story. Of course it is emotionally taxing and hard to witness without some sort of outrage. Look at that shit, that is just fucked. But let us consider some other things here, right?

Not saying that killing a person like this is right. But if you live in a country with a certain degree of strong armed religious/ political oppression like Iran? You would have to know that open air protests like this are dangerous and threatening to your life. The culture of this region, additionally, places a different sort of esoteric value on human life than our society does (or is that even true???) and more importantly death. Arabs and Persians are a different people, we know this. But the contrived sense of martyrdom in their culture doesn't seem to be one of those differences.

Same as with the Afghanis and the other Indo-Kush folk. Sometimes to these peoples a person is much more significant in death than in life, and blatantly GIVING your life to a said cause is the highest form of honorable behavior. Is this sort of alien value the kind of thing we should be quick to involve ourselves in personally? Anymore than we already have, that is... LOL, is this value REALLY in fact even alien to us???

I realize the potentially fucked up shit that can be read in my comments here, LOL... But that is one part of the world I have somewhat turned my back on. While at the same time respecting the fact that yeah, SOMETHING needs to be done before shit gets further out of hand...

But what? America presumes itself the Leader and Pentacle of Free Nations on Earth. Yet and still we are incapable, it seems, of effectively convincing certain others, to adopt our policies on freedom and justice. Nor are we capable of policing situations where the violations of the same by other governments are not only extreme but blatant, like this one here. Is it proper for us to encourage actions that would generate more dramtic deaths LIKE this one as a result of the inspirational outrage over this specific death? or to move in via military operation and directly CAUSE more deaths?

Very perplexing...

VERY dramatic video footage...

But what does it all REALLY mean in the long run???